Coronation Street - Current Episode Discussion - IV

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Originally Posted by lizann

let steve keep rover, where was michelle

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she had been visiting family in Ireland

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Originally Posted by sarah c

she had been visiting family in Ireland

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i wasn't ever aware she was away

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Originally Posted by sarah c

she had been visiting family in Ireland

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i wasn't ever aware she was away

I must say again that I really like Aidan at the moment. Shayne is doing a great job-I'm impressed of his acting skills!

Yes-Rover back to Steve please..

I don't like Liz and Lloyd together. Either Andrea or Erika.

Enough of stupid Callum storyline already...and Sarah could go back to Italy. I like Bethany though..she can be quite entertaining occasionally with her comments :)

I must say again that I really like Aidan at the moment. Shayne is doing a great job-I'm impressed of his acting skills!

Yes-Rover back to Steve please..

I don't like Liz and Lloyd together. Either Andrea or Erika.

Enough of stupid Callum storyline already...and Sarah could go back to Italy. I like Bethany though..she can be quite entertaining occasionally with her comments :)

He'll take the dog back when the kids have been dropped off at school. Is Corrie set in Scotland now then? It's August!

I am getting confused...
If Simon Gregson is playing Steve MacDonald, who is Steve MacDonald playing, the village idiot?

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why liz why

Despite Liz trying hard to convince herself she wants Lloyd because he's a decent man, it's becoming apparent to me she really wants Tony (and vice versa). For goodness sake writers, give her some self respect! An affair may just be forgiveable, but humiliation, conniving, manipulation and conning - of her son as well as herself - are not. :angry:

I was very disappointing that Liz stopped Tony from knocking seven bells out of the cowardly Callum. It was enjoyable to see the latter begging though. :thumbsup:

Aww... it was sweet to see Todd accepted back into the family. However, his family (and we) need answers about why he hated them so much. In truth, what he did was nearly as bad as what Tony did to Liz, and it's only the fact that he's family that slightly ameliorates the situation in his case.

Tracy's proved she hasn't changed at all with her rant about how Carla should just pull herself together and get over Kal and Maddie's deaths... :wall:

Mary was funny tonight. Loved how she shouted "Balls!" to an extremely startled Emily. :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Despite Liz trying hard to convince herself she wants Lloyd because he's a decent man, it's becoming apparent to me she really wants Tony (and vice versa). For goodness sake writers, give her some self respect! An affair may just be forgiveable, but humiliation, conniving, manipulation and conning - of her son as well as herself - are not. :angry:

I was very disappointing that Liz stopped Tony from knocking seven bells out of the cowardly Callum. It was enjoyable to see the latter begging though. :thumbsup:

Aww... it was sweet to see Todd accepted back into the family. However, his family (and we) need answers about why he hated them so much. In truth, what he did was nearly as bad as what Tony did to Liz, and it's only the fact that he's family that slightly ameliorates the situation in his case.

Tracy's proved she hasn't changed at all with her rant about how Carla should just pull herself together and get over Kal and Maddie's deaths... :wall:

Mary was funny tonight. Loved how she shouted "Balls!" to an extremely startled Emily. :rotfl:

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What Tracey said sure, but I disagree that she hasnt changed. I got the impression she does feel guilty about them underneath especially when seeing how Carla made thenspeech about knowing Kal and Maddie.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Despite Liz trying hard to convince herself she wants Lloyd because he's a decent man, it's becoming apparent to me she really wants Tony (and vice versa). For goodness sake writers, give her some self respect! An affair may just be forgiveable, but humiliation, conniving, manipulation and conning - of her son as well as herself - are not. :angry:

I was very disappointing that Liz stopped Tony from knocking seven bells out of the cowardly Callum. It was enjoyable to see the latter begging though. :thumbsup:

Aww... it was sweet to see Todd accepted back into the family. However, his family (and we) need answers about why he hated them so much. In truth, what he did was nearly as bad as what Tony did to Liz, and it's only the fact that he's family that slightly ameliorates the situation in his case.

Tracy's proved she hasn't changed at all with her rant about how Carla should just pull herself together and get over Kal and Maddie's deaths... :wall:

Mary was funny tonight. Loved how she shouted "Balls!" to an extremely startled Emily. :rotfl:

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What Tracey said sure, but I disagree that she hasnt changed. I got the impression she does feel guilty about them underneath especially when seeing how Carla made thenspeech about knowing Kal and Maddie.

I agree, they've made Liz really stupid. I was almost shouting at her last night to just disappear when Andrea walked in! But oh no, there she was standing like a fool!

Tracy has changed. And hopefully this change is permanently for the better.

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Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx

What Tracey said sure, but I disagree that she hasnt changed. I got the impression she does feel guilty about them underneath especially when seeing how Carla made thenspeech about knowing Kal and Maddie.

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I agree Tracy felt a little bit guilty after Carla so affectingly explained why she's been so upset by Kal and Maddie's deaths, but she had no instinctive empathy for her until the reasons were spelled out in black and white. Tracy has obviously felt little to no guilt since her unrealistic breakdown a couple of weeks ago or she'd sympathise with Carla's ongoing pain, not be callously telling her to pull herself together. What little guilt Tracy feels is obviously very easily banished. :wall:

Hopefully David will have learned to keep his mouth shut next time he sees Callum and won´t tell him who is going to change their police statement .. especially now that Callum is more than hacked off after getting smacked by Tony .. :wall:

Don't the police find it very convenient that Callum has an alibi coming in just before/just after an accusation is made against him? Oh no, wait, soap police...

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Originally Posted by Kim

Don't the police find it very convenient that Callum has an alibi coming in just before/just after an accusation is made against him? Oh no, wait, soap police...

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an underage girl in his flat and cops buy that

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Originally Posted by Kim

Don't the police find it very convenient that Callum has an alibi coming in just before/just after an accusation is made against him? Oh no, wait, soap police...

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an underage girl in his flat and cops buy that

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Originally Posted by lizann

an underage girl in his flat and cops buy that

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They already know she hangs around with him after the drug raid at the Dog and Gun. I think it was said Gemma was at his flat too.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

They already know she hangs around with him after the drug raid at the Dog and Gun. I think it was said Gemma was at his flat too.

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It was. Callum's logic must be that the police would (rightly) believe that Gemma would lie for him, but that they wouldn't think the same of Bethany.

Craig and Tim in the painting class with drunk Mary was fun :p

I hope the Art Class will continue :D

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

They already know she hangs around with him after the drug raid at the Dog and Gun. I think it was said Gemma was at his flat too.

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and cops don't think at her age bethany hanging around with callum and gemma isn't out of the ordinary so no need to follow up more

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Originally Posted by lizann

and cops don't think at her age bethany hanging around with callum and gemma isn't out of the ordinary so no need to follow up more

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Yes, the whole storyline's completely idiotic.

Getting to the end of my patience with Callum and hope that he gets either put away for many years or killed, during life episode at the latest please :wall:

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Originally Posted by tammyy2j

Craig and Tim in the painting class with drunk Mary was fun :p

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I want to be Mary's friend and go out for a sherry with her??!!

I hope once and for all Carla gives up the booze, how is her liver still functioning?

I think she had more sober times ever so often and liver disease can take a long time to surface ... hopefully her absence from the street will bring back a sober and refreshed Carla ...

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Originally Posted by Perdita

I think she had more sober times ever so often and liver disease can take a long time to surface ... hopefully her absence from the street will bring back a sober and refreshed Carla ...

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Eastenders gave Lauren liver problems and Carla has had a drink problem with many years now, she is never without her wine, she did get close to Peter first off over their shared problem with battling the booze

I would like to see Carla quite it completely

window enhancement executive :p

I suppose cirrhosis of the liver in heavy drinkers is much the same as lung cancer in smokers. It's more likely to happen but some people get lucky. Peter was hospitalised a couple of times after drinking if I remember correctly, so the health implications haven't been totally ignored by the writers.

Although I really sympathise with Carla's guilt (I think being responsible for someone's death would ruin lots of people's lives), it was kind of selfish of her to make the auction all about her. I'd have asked her to leave if I was Sophie. I also think it's skewed that Carla's the only person really suffering after the fire. Sophie and Kal's family have all moved on remarkably quickly except for the odd angry or grief-stricken moment here and there.

I thought from the spoilers Tracy would actually admit starting the fire to Robert rather than him guessing.

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It now seems likely no one but Carla will actually hear Tracy say the words, so it must be her who tells the police. Robert (and Amy, who was also in the house) didn't hear Tracy admitting anything so what could they tell the police other than supposition?

no mention of the keys and her going in the back room to steal them from michelle's bag then

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I thought from the spoilers Tracy would actually admit starting the fire to Robert rather than him guessing

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And that was SOME Guess! Robert is clearly Weatherfield's best detective, as well as their best chef - sign him up for the Soap police now and these storylines might not drag on forever!

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Originally Posted by Brucie

And that was SOME Guess! Robert is clearly Weatherfield's best detective, as well as their best chef - sign him up for the Soap police now and these storylines might not drag on forever!

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Especially as he don't know Carla and her history with Tracy

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Originally Posted by tammyy2j

Especially as he don't know Carla and her history with Tracy

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We might not have seen any such scene-I
agree-but I think on this occasion-I would
be prepared to take the scene as read.

Tracys personality and thinking everyone
agsinst her and her moaning about
everything and everybody-It would be
a miracle if Robert had escaped an
ear-bashing:)

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Originally Posted by Brucie

And that was SOME Guess! Robert is clearly Weatherfield's best detective, as well as their best chef - sign him up for the Soap police now and these storylines might not drag on forever!

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I know, it was a huge leap to make, even if he knew Tracy as well as we do (which he almost certainly doesn't). If maidmarian's right and Robert is aware how much Tracy hates Carla (which I agree is likely), there's still no reason for him to suppose the fire was anything other than an accident caused by Carla.

I don't believe Tracy's uncharacteristic "sympathy" for Carla's plight - while very puzzling - would lead anyone to guess she was in Carla's flat that night and started the fire.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I don't believe Tracy's uncharacteristic "sympathy" for Carla's plight - while very puzzling - would lead anyone to guess she was in Carla's flat that night and started the fire.

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Actually, exactly that would make me think that Tracy knows more about how the fire started than she lets on ..

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Originally Posted by Perdita

Actually, exactly that would make me think that Tracy knows more about how the fire started than she lets on ..

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Still...to go from that to her actually starting the fire in a building she had no access to is a very big leap to make so quickly. I could buy it if she'd accidentally let something slip about being there or something similar. Also, I doubt Robert's aware just what a hard-faced cow she's turned into since he last saw her, so her sympathy shouldn't seem as odd to him as it does to us.