I was expecting someone to try and stop Mick and ask what was up and did think it would be Phil or even LeeQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
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I was expecting someone to try and stop Mick and ask what was up and did think it would be Phil or even LeeQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
If Linda is gone to her mother's pub, hope she brings Elaine back with her
exactly makes no sense for phil not to reactQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
exactly makes no sense for phil not to react esp if mick was hurting people its not just about shirley its about everyone, surprised if sharon didnt encourage phil to try and stop itQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
itd make more sense if he was ignoring shirley on purpose after how happy he was last week and didn't want sharon finding out he knew or couldnt help incase it annoyed sharon. just struggling buying phil & sharon is happy ever after
as you said it was predicted by many as we had the kat/zoe reveal done beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
tonight's episode was better than xmas day's episode, loved mick going mental, shirley knows dean is messed up yet still believes him wonder where they will live now
can phil ever be happy with anyone :pQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
sharon is meant to be the love of his life and he has waited 20 years to marry her..and yes as i keep saying he was very happy in the scenes with shirley last weekQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
phil is still lying to sharon about knowing shirley is micks mum. the writers cant honestly expect us to forget this
what was with him suggesting ronnie kill nick????
I think Phil offered to kill Nick himself.
Probably not, but I think it's the writers' intention to keep them together for the foreseeable future.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
Phil simply doesn't care enough about the Carters to get involved. As you say, Shirley wasn't even there.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
He did, yes, but Ronnie said no (for Charlie and Dot's sake). I think she's regretting it now! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I hope everyone was satisfied with the Boxing Day episode. We were given the high drama and action that many felt were missing Christmas Day. I absolutely loved it but I wish we'd had an hour-long episode again. Maybe it was a good thing though as the writing was tighter this time.
Poor Mick's life's in tatters (but his fury was pretty awesome to behold!). I'm soooo relieved he didn't doubt Linda for a moment. I'm a bit worried about Nancy's reaction though as she's doubted her mother about Dean in the past.
I'm very glad that the mother reveal didn't overshadow the rape reveal. There's plenty of time for Mick to come to terms with Shirley being his mother now - as long as she finally accepts that Dean's a rapist.
The way everyone scurried out of the way of the furious Mick really made me laugh lol. :D
10/10
Yes, Dazzle, I agree. The Boxing Day episode was much better than the Christmas Day one.
the writers are acting like they are the happily ever after. they've had no issues or anything since the weddingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
phil would NEVER leave the vic lying down without wanting to know why they're being chucked out. he was banging on the door to get in the vic in the first place. its not in character for him to be ok with being told to get out, its not about the carters, its about principal in character that he just wouldnt leave like that and be OK about it. mick was hurting people, even sharon didnt seem that concerned? im thiinking phil guessed why mick did it and doesnt want sharon to find out
im annoyed shirleys secret has been overshadowed. ive waited all year for her reveal and its not been given the attention it deserved
It's called the honeymoon period. It won't last....Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
While I agree that it would have been in character for Phil to protest loudly at Mick's behaviour, I also don't find it out of character that he didn't, for the following reasons: it was Christmas Day, Phil was with his family, he was in an excellent mood, he's not close to the Carters (except for Shirley) and maybe he's even mellowing slightly as he grows older lol. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
It will be given the attention it deserves, but the rape needed to be given the attention it deserved after Linda revealed it to Mick. There's no way he was going to react well to Shirley's reveal given that he was traumatised after having just found out that Dean had raped his wife, and, even worse, that Shirley had believed Dean's word over Linda's.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
I've no doubt the mother reveal will be explored at length and that it will make fantastic TV. Danny Dyer and Linda Henry work brilliantly together and their scenes should make mesmerising viewing.
well i dont see phil acting like its the honeymoon period, sharon is. phils just always grumpy (oh except when he saw shirley as an elf :P)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
phil wasnt in an excellent mood. he looked like he was in his normal grumpy mood. sharon is best mates with linda, she would be worrying for her like she has been since linda was going nuts since the rape. even if phil doesnt care about the carters, mick was going insane and hurting people. any sane person would
it deserved more attention at christmas now christmas 2014 weill be remembered for the rape and mick trashig rhe vic, not shirlesyr reveal
well i dont see phil acting like its the honeymoon period, sharon is. phils just always grumpy (oh except when he saw shirley as an elf :P) and rarely pays sharon attention do they even kiss outside the house??Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
phil wasnt in an excellent mood. he looked like he was in his normal grumpy mood. sharon is best mates with linda, she would be worrying for her like she has been since linda was going nuts since the rape. even if phil doesnt care about the carters, mick was going insane and hurting people. any sane person would think what he was doing wasnt right and people didnt deserve their xmas ruined. i think phil would want to distract sharon from asking questions incase she found out he knew
it deserved more attention at christmas now christmas 2014 weill be remembered for the rape and mick trashig rhe vic, not shirlesyr reveal
Mick was definitely going insane but nobody actually got hurt except for himself. He pushed a few people out of the way that's all. Not nice for them of course, but they didn't sustain any damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
Phil isn't exactly empathic and would have zero sympathy for a bunch of randoms being pushed out of the Vic. If Mick had done that to any of the Mitchells it would've been a very different story of course.
Agreed - Mick trashing the Vic will be this remembered as the most memorable event this Christmas. Some people think the two reveals should have happened separately, but I really like how it was done personally. The fallout from them both will continue for months no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
does sharon being lindas best mate not count for phil then?
i just find it hard to believe there'd be no reaction from phil and sharon
sharon didn't care about mick or linda and phil not about shirley or her familyQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
sharon didn't care about mick or linda and phil not about shirley or her familyQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
Linda and Sharron are besties though and Sharon knew someone has been wrong with Linda for awhile. Perhaps they'll get involved t a later date when shes finds out Linda has gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Linda and Sharron are besties though and Sharon knew someone has been wrong with Linda for awhile. Perhaps they'll get involved t a later date when shes finds out Linda has gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
sharon will think linda slept with dean, they argued before over linda's kiss with dean, sharon said she lead him onQuote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
sharon will think linda slept with dean, they argued before over linda's kiss with dean, sharon said she lead him onQuote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
Most people would scarper quick smart if they had a furious Danny Dyer bearing down on them! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
Seriously though, Linda wasn't there so there was no reason to suspect she was in imminent danger. There were plenty of other Carters in residence. We don't know how the people ejected from the Vic reacted yet. Sharon may have phoned Linda, for instance. The police may even have been phoned.
I think we have to accept with soaps that not all interactions will be shown and that we have to fill in the blanks ourselves.
Yes, that's a sad possibility, however Sharon does know there's been something seriously wrong with Linda recently, and that a "customer" harassed her, so I'm hoping she won't doubt Linda.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I'm more worried about Nancy's reaction.
this. for phil not to care about what sharon thought or her friends isnt in character. or does phil not love sharon that much not to care. i think i buy it more that phil doesnt want sharon finding out he knew Shirleys secret.Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
linda wasn't there, but its lindas pub do you honestly buy sharon not caring about her best mates husband trashing her pub?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
linda wasn't there, but its lindas pub do you honestly buy sharon not caring about her best mates husband trashing her pub?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
That's why I said Sharon may have phoned Linda or even the police. We don't know what happened next (and we may never know).Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
anyhow, i dont buy in this phil and sharon honeymoon period. he doesnt seem overly interested he doesnt care about sharons thoughts of her best mates pub being trashed.heck, he didnt care about suggesting they kill sharons oldest mates son :P i dont know what your seeing that im not. it doesnt even matter if he isnt interested in shirley either, he just isnt interested in Sharon that much. hes kicking off next week and is being nasty to everyone if this marriage lasts its a jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
The honeymoon period may have been an extremely short one! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
Like all the Mitchells, Phil only really cares about famerlee so it doesn't surprise me when he doesn't give a damn for others around him. He does care occasionally, when the mood takes him, but he's a very selfish man at heart. Anyway, hopefully we'll find out the truth about what the community (including Sharon and Phil) thinks about Mick trashing the Vic during the next episode.
I'm signing off now. Goodnight Mona (and anyone else who's reading). :)
this is why it was different with shirley. in 2011 phil actually went to get heather to bring over for shirley as they had fallen out. he let heather live with them when he couldnt stand her. if phil is supposed to be so madly in love with sharon, he would care about her welfare and her feelings. i think people forget what phil did for shirley as their recent thing has overshadowed it allQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
thought you meant the honeymoon period was still going as they still dont have any issues between them. phil and shirley were a lot closer after their non wedding. does sharon even know ben is dating abi
I find it funny dom said linda henry would be used more with the carters, but shes used less than she was with the mitchells. at least she wasnt overshadowed with them and the heather reveal actually overshadowed sharons return
i realize i go on abit, but im annoyed at how shirls secret is overshadowed and were not being delivered what was promised. some people dont even like her with the carters and are glad mick and linda chucked her out they didnt want her with phil and they dont want her with the carters she cant win
Where has Linda gone? Hope she's back soon.
i did find sonia leaving the pub funny
Yes I was surprised Sharon didn't ask Phil to ask Mick what was wrong and where Linda was but hopefully tonight more will be shownQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
philip could not get any peace and quite time and he sure didn't seem to care one ounce about shirley or her family sorry monalisa true love is not shining through
mick or linda will have tell the kids as nancy thinks affair
philip could not get any peace and quite time and he sure didn't seem to care one ounce about shirley or her family sorry monalisa true love is not shining through
mick or linda will have tell the kids as nancy thinks affair
it wasnt just about shirley though was it. sharon was worrying about linda and phil couldnt give rats arseabout her, at lest ive been told he was willing to give shirley money till he knew it was for dean.and phil knows shirley is micks mother yet is lying to sharon about it. didnt he say hedidnt know why mick lasshed outQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
it wasnt just about shirley though was it. sharon was worrying about linda and phil couldnt give rats **** about her, at lest ive been told he was willing to give shirley money till he knew it was for dean.and phil knows shirley is micks mother yet is lying to sharon about it. didnt he say hedidnt know why mick lasshed out if he told sharon shirley is micks mum maybe she wouldnt need to worry as much. i think you'll find phil getting fed up about sharon caring about her mates is less true love than willing to give his ex who shot him money and ye i know he chucked her out but only cos the others wanted her outQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
my point is phil does care about shirley or else he would have got rid of her himself as soon as she came in the house
Lovely scenes between Linda and Mick again last night - I must admit they had me welling up. I'm glad Linda was feeling strong enough to tell her mother and Sharon the truth.
Shirley really put the cat among the pigeons by telling Ronnie about the money! :D
just watched it. i think phil wanted shirley to go cos hes worried sharon might find out he knew shirl is micks mum. think shirl was referring to it when she said thats why he didnt want her there. he was willing to give her the money before she mentioned dean. phil didnt want to throw shirley out like that he was actually listening to her i think he understands more cos he knows