From the brief glimpse we caught of Martin, I thought they'd done a fair job in getting someone facially similar.
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From the brief glimpse we caught of Martin, I thought they'd done a fair job in getting someone facially similar.
aleks should go after his wife for his daughter's sake plus she looks better than peroxide
the new martin is doing well good casting
lauren is treating peter too badly over the drugs she has done bad things in the past too and also had worse boyfriends
ian is being a total pr*ck
I disagree with Lauren. Would you want to start a life and family with someone who's answer to a drug addict is to keep it going. I know he had good intentions but he wasn't getting rid of her problem and kept quiet after her death. He says its embarrassment but she was murdered. As for Lauren doing bad things, she has, but doesn't mean she should let this slide because you think she's still up on the score.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I disagree with Lauren. Would you want to start a life and family with someone who's answer to a drug addict is to keep it going. I know he had good intentions but he wasn't getting rid of her problem and kept quiet after her death. He says its embarrassment but she was murdered. As for Lauren doing bad things, she has, but doesn't mean she should let this slide because you think she's still up on the score.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Is new Martin staying around?
He could help Peter
I thought Peter's dealer was someone we might know
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Originally Posted by lizann
I also liked the new Martin, and his and Sonia's relationship was very much as I remember it. I assume he'll be back as there wouldn't be much point in the recast for two episodes. There were certainly strong hints thatQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Spoiler:
I found Lauren quite harsh to Peter as she didn't even attempt to understand his motives. However, you make some good points about the reasons for her attitude I hadn't considered so I've changed my mind now. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx
I'm not sure that I found Peter turning to drugs a very convincing twist in the tale.
ian is a cruel s.o.b.
Did you see the state of Ian in that last scene though? I'm not condoning his behaviour in any way, and I feel sorry for Peter (even though I'm not a fan of the character), but Ian's really struggling too. It's a mess all round.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Cranking up Tosh's paranoia over Tina and Sonia was extremely ruthless on Babe's part. I guess there's no redeeming Tosh after that brutally violent outburst, which I think is a shame in a way because I think the actress is very good. I hope Tina is able to get away from her permanently now. I've a feeling that Babe and Shirley will get their revenge!
Very convincing scene of the violent outburst .. made me feel uncomfortable just watching
It was very convincing indeed. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Aunt Babe is very like Archie Mitchell she likes to control the Carter family, she knew Tosh would attack Tina over the watch
Tina seems to have a heart of gold and likes to help, especially her good mate Sonia, I hope they are kept as mates only too
I think they'll almost certainly start a relationship at some point as the writers have gone to an awful lot of trouble to build up their chemistry (perhaps remembering the disaster that was Sonia and Naomi). I think a relationship between them would work well.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
what chemistry?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
why didn't anyone call the cops on tosh
what chemistry?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
why didn't anyone call the cops on tosh
Apparently -acccording to actresss playingQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Tosh-as the story unfolders the viewers will
understand why she behaves as she does!!
And the appearance cops could upset this??
and we wouldnt want that!!!
Apparently -acccording to actresss playingQuote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Tosh-as the story unfolders the viewers will
understand why she behaves as she does!!
And the appearance cops could upset this??
and we wouldnt want that!!!
I think there's very good chemistry between Sonia and Tina, and that their relationship's been built up very realistically as close friends who fall for each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I must say that I'm disappointed that some kind of revenge wasn't exacted upon Tosh, and I felt the Carters were far too nice to her. I can just about accept that they did it to avoid upsetting Tina any further though - she did definitively finish with Tosh after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Also, they may have felt they're was no point in calling the police as Tina would just deny everything (and one of them mentioned Tosh having friends in the force anyway). I still think I would have done it if I was one of them though.
I'm very surprised that Mick didn't recognise his "mother". Had he never seen any photos of her? Sylvie's very different to how I imagined her!
When you say "as the story unfolds", what do you mean? That was Tosh's last appearance. She's gone for good.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I don't watch EE on a regular basis so was it never shown why Tosh had anger issues? The way she was brought up, abusive parent or something like that?? I liked Tosh in the episodes I watched, portrayed by a very good actress
I agree, the actress was excellent. I was able to sympathise with Tosh during moments of vulnerability, which shows the actress' capability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Tosh's background was never explored in depth (a missed opportunity I think) but we did meet her mother. Her parents were religious and highly disapproved of the fact she was gay. She wasn't accepted as part of the family after coming out. That was where her anger issues stemmed from.
Tina mentioned Tosh had issues with her parents but it was never explored more as a storyline, I think Tosh's parents didn't approve of her sexuality I don't think she was beaten by her parentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
I didnt watch the phil and sharon scene, glad i didnt As i know he was all over her like a rash and it was disgusting. Where is the logic, shriley is in TEARS yet phil gets to be happy. Baffles belief why the show thinks we want phil to be happy
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Originally Posted by parkerman
Well, me lud, what do I mean.........indeed!!
My plea in mitigation is that I have been staying
with in.an EE unfriendly environment for a while
and havent "caught up " with the latest episodes
When poster asked why cops not called I had
been reading a v long posting dated 8/12 in thread
"Rebecca Sproggs" where actress quotes long term
arc/reasons for her behaviour at lenghth and makes
it sound almost as tho she will be portrayed as
much a victim as Tina
So I thought there was much
more to come! but it didnt look as tho it would
be acceptable to victims & viewers and I posted my
reply.
There is now anr posting in same thread dated 12/12
confirming character has left and so has left a lot
of matters unresolved.
So Im sorry about my posting. I supposed it was too
much to expect a full resolution of an issue in a soap
and I dont think there is any excuse for domestic
violence.
Perhaps actress hoping for longer stay and exaggerating!
While on the subject of general gripes (see DAvid and Kylie!!! on the Corrie thread), isn't it about time the well-worn cliche of getting stuck behind a stationary van was put out to grass. That must have been at least the 100th time it's happened in Eastenders! And it all seemed to be about nothing anyway. If Shirley's mum had gone missing for a long time, there might have been some reason for it, but, really, what was the point???
I suppose because SWs have done it manyQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
times before- they think why waste time&
brain-cells thinking up a new script when
u can" phone one in" for same salary.!
I suppose because SWs have done it manyQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
times before- they think why waste time&
brain-cells thinking up a new script when
u can" phone one in" for same salary.!
Excellent episode last night.
I was shocked that Sylvie has Alzheimer's. An unexpected twist in the tale that makes her an extremely unpredictable (and sad) character to watch.
Dot certainly wasn't expecting Ian to go rushing round to tell all to Sharon and Phil! I wonder what they'll do?
I knew there'd be a post from you about last night's Phil and Sharon scenes! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
I don't think there were ever any excuses made for Tosh's violence (except by Tina, who was under her spell). We were given glimpses of reasons for her anger and insecurity, which always have root causes, but that in no way excuses her battering Tina.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
What I'd like to see for once is character like Tosh seeking professional help and overcoming their anger and violence issues instead of them just leaving the soap when their behaviour becomes public knowledge (and presumably moving on to their next victim).
I still felt she was redeemable as a character (up until the last brutal attack) if, after Tina had left her, she'd admitted that she had a problem and sought help for it. It might have encouraged others to do the same too. I don't know how realistic that scenario is in real life though.
Dazzle, i havent watched the snogging bits yet. ive watched before sharon came in and when phil was answering the door. I've seen pics and other people have commented on it. Phil doesnt seem as into sharon as he was with shirley, he put up a much bigger fight with jay to leave them alone than he did ian, and he was all over shirley a lot more than sharon. One picture i seen he actually looks miserable kissing her. He didnt touch her face and barely touched her hair (from what ive been told) He just stood there when ian came in. I don't buy this phils madly in love with sharon at all...Thankgod i have scenes to look forward to! I was expecting it to be more than what i've heard. They had a snogging scene last year that looked like he was actually eating her, and i know ive been told he was slightly in this one but the pics didnt look the same as that one. that one was awful (for me) to watch...this one im thinking it might not be that bad lol!
of course that is all from my perspective from the bits ive watched and what people have told me. I seen him smile on the market and that worried me more!. i was glad the last scene was at the very end of the episode so i could turn it over! (if you think im wrong please dont be too harsh, this is just from what ive seen without watching the snogging bits!)
Sylvie is nasty, she was nasty about shirleys looks. the actress has already said sylvie is manipulative
You did get the impression- from
interview with actress the DV issue
would be dealt with much more deeply.
Reasons for behaviour given making it
if not excusable then to some extent
understandable and the actress seemed
to hint at some sort of redemption.
So I was amazed after missing a couple
of episodes- it was all concluded and Tosh
gone. I doubt she would return in the future.
In the few cases I became aware of -I'm
not sure redemption was possible-because
of attitudes- people need to want to change.
But different people with different lives
who accept their behaviour was wrong
and want to change - there must be at
least a hope for the future even if the
victim does not want to see them again.
My own limited experience of people who
have been victims of Domestic Violence
is men attacking women and one case of
a very small woman attacking a very large
man over prolonged period- unknown to
friends & colleagues . Which apparently
happens more frequently than thought.
So a case of two women which tho
very unpleasant was an opportunity to
highlight a scenario a lot of people
wouldnt be aware of and bring more
general awareness - as well.
You did get the impression- from
interview with actress the DV issue
would be dealt with much more deeply.
Reasons for behaviour given making it
if not excusable then to some extent
understandable and the actress seemed
to hint at some sort of redemption.
So I was amazed after missing a couple
of episodes- it was all concluded and Tosh
gone. I doubt she would return in the future.
In the few cases I became aware of -I'm
not sure redemption was possible-because
of attitudes- people need to want to change.
But different people with different lives
who accept their behaviour was wrong
and want to change - there must be at
least a hope for the future even if the
victim does not want to see them again.
My own limited experience of people who
have been victims of Domestic Violence
is men attacking women and one case of
a very small woman attacking a very large
man over prolonged period- unknown to
friends & colleagues . Which apparently
happens more frequently than thought.
So a case of two women which tho
very unpleasant was an opportunity to
highlight a scenario a lot of people
wouldnt be aware of and bring more
general awareness - as well.
Sly bit of manipulation by Shirley in convincing Mick that Sylvie needs to go into a home. I'm such a fan of Linda Henry!
I laughed out loud twice at last night's episode. Once at Dot's outrage at Nick being locked in his room, and again at Nick's description of Phil to Yvonne (something to do with Phil being able to snap Nick in half). Very funny lines and acting. :D
I'm thoroughly enjoying Ronnie vs Nick!
are kat and alfie not staying in terry's flat (keys from donna) which the rent was paid in advance
kat and alfie need to leave
Heard Mick say to Shirley "get in the haddock" meaning his vehicle, never heard that one before ?...:searchme:
Short for the Haddock and bloater, cockney rhyming slang for motor.
Thanks, would never have worked that out...:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
The flat was paid up until the end of November so they've been squatting since then. I'm surprised the landlord hadn't arranged to have it rented again by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I couldn't agree more! They're painful to watch nowadays and I don't think I can ever like Alfie again after the arson and his recent arrogant and entitled attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
So Summerhayes is spying on Lauren, who we now know is a chief suspect. I hope we're not kept in suspense about what's on her computer!
Dean playing happy families... :sick: :angry:
who is paul to the crokers, another son or grandson?
They said he was their grandson.