Current Episode Discussion V

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Originally Posted by parkerman

I can't believe so many people thought last night's episode was so good. It was the usual tripe.

I think the problem is that Eastenders has now created such low expectations that anything, even the tiniest bit above absolutely awful, gets people thinking it's really good. Perhaps that's what the Eastenders scriptwriters were after all along, so they don't have to bother so much in future.

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I tuned in last night for the first time in a while Parkerman, and I have to say, I entirely agree with you. It was poor.

Sonia and Naomi - zzzzzzz At least (the awful) Bert finally used the word 'lesbian' and Jim returned to his own nasty self. :)

Patrick and Yolande's new problems - where the hell did that come from? :searchme:

Bradley and Stacey - zzzzz It just goes on and on, round in circles. Just get on with it you two. :rolleyes:

Honey absolutely awful as ever. The grandfather misunderstanding was one of the worst pieces of comedy in Easties ever.

Phil returning was bad enough, but then even worse he has about four personality changes in the episode, and he was only in half of it. :rolleyes:

Grant arriving at the end was pure cheese. I'm so fed up of the way these characters mark their return. "Ello x, ello y, ello z". :rolleyes:

I think I've covered the episode now. I'll tune in next week for 'Johnny Week' (is that meant to be a safe sex campaign? :rolleyes: ) and the week after to see if it lives upto the hype, but I'm not anticipating anything more than the usual tripe.

I don't know if the scriptwriters have stopped bothering Parkerman, but I most certainly have, hence why I stopped watching recently. It's still so poor, and not even a shadow of what it once was. :thumbsdow

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Honey absolutely awful as ever. The grandfather misunderstanding was one of the worst pieces of comedy in Easties ever.

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I might actually have to agree with you there!! :eek: :p

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Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer

I tuned in last night for the first time in a while Parkerman, and I have to say, I entirely agree with you. It was poor.

Sonia and Naomi - zzzzzzz At least (the awful) Bert finally used the word 'lesbian' and Jim returned to his own nasty self. :)

Patrick and Yolande's new problems - where the hell did that come from? :searchme:

Bradley and Stacey - zzzzz It just goes on and on, round in circles. Just get on with it you two. :rolleyes:

Honey absolutely awful as ever. The grandfather misunderstanding was one of the worst pieces of comedy in Easties ever.

Phil returning was bad enough, but then even worse he has about four personality changes in the episode, and he was only in half of it. :rolleyes:

Grant arriving at the end was pure cheese. I'm so fed up of the way these characters mark their return. "Ello x, ello y, ello z". :rolleyes:

I think I've covered the episode now. I'll tune in next week for 'Johnny Week' (is that meant to be a safe sex campaign? :rolleyes: ) and the week after to see if it lives upto the hype, but I'm not anticipating anything more than the usual tripe.

I don't know if the scriptwriters have stopped bothering Parkerman, but I most certainly have, hence why I stopped watching recently. It's still so poor, and not even a shadow of what it once was. :thumbsdow

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i think it was good, but i have been keeping up with the show, sure naomi and sonia are boring, but i cant ever say i have ever thought of jim as nasty.

billy and honey are the only comedy on the square at the moment, and im actually getting to like bert hes funny when hes with big mo.

the problems between yolande and patrick are due to the fact he had an affair with pat evans

as for the mitchells entrance i wouldnt expect anything more than hello i mean can you imagine phil and grant running up to each other and giving each other a big hug, not gonna happen is it

Jim when he joined was a rather racist chap. Even a few months ago we saw his racist past come out when Juley and Ruby were going out.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the comedy side. :)

I was looking at the Pat/Yolande relationship problems from the positionality of Yolande actually. :)

As for the Mitchells, it would be better if they didn't appear at the end of the episode for a start, but you don't have to have a hugging scene between the two either to make it a realistic and uncliched entrance. :)

Well I Guess We Both Took Each Others Comments The Wrong Way And Im Sorry But I Cant Remember Jim Being Racist

Well Agree To Disagree

Jim was certainly racist when he first appeared. He was very unhappy with the idea that his daughter Carol was married to Alan for no other reason than he was black as far as I remember.

I was surprised Grant turned up i thought he was going to turn up on mons eppy.loved the bit with kevin and yolande,its the first time ive actually enjoyed a scene with him in it.
worst bit was Ben,no offence i know he's only a little boy but what terrible acting that was with him sitting with minty in the cafe,i was cringing.

He did mellow once he realised Alan was a good man, but the racist side of Jim was always just below the surface.

See I Never Knew That I Cant Actually Remember When Jim Joined The Square

How could anyone not like last nights episode???

Apart from the Naomi/Sonia rubbish of course. Minty taking care of Ben, I loved it when they were talking about Minty having family, Ben not feeling like he was a part of any family, the more Ian tries the further Ben feels he doesn't belong. Then when Ian found him and took him home, "You'd be a great dad Minty." That was great.

Pauline using Rebecca to help Peggy see things from Ben's point of view was great, Bert was a pain at the party. I can see where Peggy wanted to spoil her grandson, but Ian didn't have to be nasty to her about it. She was just trying her best and over compensated with the choice of present, loved how she went mental at Phil for trying to burn Ian's face.

Think Peggy and Jane will have more words to say to Phil and Ian, Minty was wonderful giving Phil what for. About time someone told Phil how lucky he is to have his life, Jane was wonderful as peace maker between Phil and Ben. I felt sorry for her when Ian barged into the Arches and had a go at Phil, wish he'd over heard what Pauline had told Peggy earlier. But Ian is thick as two short planks end to end, always using something against Phil so he can look better.

Stacey/Bradley - how sweet was that, Deano giving him heaps about making dinner for her. Then when they finally sit down Bradley gets cold feet, at least Stacey didn't run out on him. Seeing them talk about the pressure to have sex, sorting out their misunderstanding was good.

Martin, finally coming to terms his marriage is over was great, from telling himself he was over Sonia. Then belting Bert over it, glad they didn't just have Bert walking out the door when he'd taken Martin home, sat down and talked to him.

Yolande trying to take revenge on Patrick for what he did, how many women would've just forgiven or walked out? What he did was rotten to her especially with Pat, Keith was great helping her to see that she didn't really want revenge she needed to talk to Patrick.

The heart to heart they had was great, they didn't have them make up straight away, Patrick has to earn her trust again which is good.

As for Grant turning up in the end was great, yeah I agree they should use new words instead of "Hello, Princess", "Hello, Mum" etc. Could've had him say "Put that bottle down!" or anything else we can come up with :D