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07-07-2006, 11:45
BlackKat

Another appearance from Jake in the PO spoilers, :eek:

Thursday 26th July
Meanwhile, a disgusted Gus tries to make amends for Juley's actions but when Jake realises what he is trying to do, he gives him an ultimatum.

Earlier in the week Ruby is mugged when returning money to the club, and hurt pretty bad I think, so I think Jake will appear then as well. It also sounds like Juley is involved in the mugging - either someone does it to get at Juley, or Juley does it himself because he needs money.

I'm hoping Jake's ultimatum is something to do with Juley having to leave Walford, cos then Jake would be responsible for ridding us of Juley. :bow:
08-07-2006, 09:08
Babe14

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Another appearance from Jake in the PO spoilers, :eek:

Thursday 26th July
Meanwhile, a disgusted Gus tries to make amends for Juley's actions but when Jake realises what he is trying to do, he gives him an ultimatum.

Get out of Walford or I'll batter you again:rotfl:

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Earlier in the week Ruby is mugged when returning money to the club, and hurt pretty bad I think, so I think Jake will appear then as well. It also sounds like Juley is involved in the mugging - either someone does it to get at Juley, or Juley does it himself because he needs money.

I'm hoping Jake's ultimatum is something to do with Juley having to leave Walford, cos then Jake would be responsible for ridding us of Juley. :bow:

Let's hope so. Good Angry Jakey again:wub: :love: I think he'll give Juley a smack anyway espec if he's hurt Ruby.

RE: RUBY AXED

REPLY: Could Ruby and Jake now be leaving the square together? I would be happy with this, so long as there is no "funny business" involved (I.E A Brookie repetition)
08-07-2006, 10:52
BlackKat

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RE: RUBY AXED

REPLY: Could Ruby and Jake now be leaving the square together? I would be happy with this, so long as there is no "funny business" involved (I.E A Brookie repetition)

Ruby leaves in November, so unless they push Jake's exit back a few weeks I don't think they will. It could be that the storylines are linked though, as she'll leave only a few weeks after him. :searchme: I also wouldn't mind them leaving together, as long as they aren't together together, just deciding to make a fresh start somewhere else.

Another idea I had is that maybe one of Johnny's old enemies comes looking for revenge, so Jake decides to get Ruby out of Walford. That would be "explosive," but also a happy ending as they're getting a fresh start. I'm not sure if they would do something like that though as they've cut out all the gangster storylines. :searchme:
10-07-2006, 13:08
Babe14

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Another idea I had is that maybe one of Johnny's old enemies comes looking for revenge, so Jake decides to get Ruby out of Walford. That would be "explosive," but also a happy ending as they're getting a fresh start. I'm not sure if they would do something like that though as they've cut out all the gangster storylines. :searchme:

I don't think I would be happy with that as it would be a bit repetitive (nice idea though:) just been done too many times in one soap) We need new and fresh ideas for exits (not to mention storylines) Maybe the rumours about "Ruby/Bradley" are true and this is why she leaves?
Now for Jake I want the reason for him leaving to be "love" (won't repeat my post but what I have posted before is what I would like to see. Nice and happy)
10-07-2006, 13:22
BlackKat

I think I'd need a convincing love story for Jake's exit if that's what it was. Not just an "Insert random female," here, which is what I suspect it would be. A bit like Little Mo and Oliver's 2 second love affair, complete with random proposal of marriage.

What I want most of all before Jake leaves is for him to get over the damn saviour thing he has. I think this is very important, as it's what brings the character full circle in a way. I think this could be done either by him leaving Ruby behind, and going to live his own life, or if Ruby does go with him, by the writers showing it's a much more healthy (family) relationship than Jake&Danny.

I honestly don't mind if Jake leaves alone -- it's a bit like Little Mo's exit, she didn't get the happy ever after with Oliver, but I think the way they did it was a much more happy exit than if she had, because of what it showed about her growing as a person. So I don't mind if something like this happens with Jake - obviously not the same storyline, but him deciding he needs to live his own life before settling down.
10-07-2006, 13:36
Babe14

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I think I'd need a convincing love story for Jake's exit if that's what it was. Not just an "Insert random female," here, which is what I suspect it would be. A bit like Little Mo and Oliver's 2 second love affair, complete with random proposal of marriage.

The one which I have in mind and would like to see, time is running out for. There would have to be a storyline before hand to lead up to this one and it can't be rushed or it will fall flat.:p :p

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What I want most of all before Jake leaves is for him to get over the damn saviour thing he has. I think this is very important, as it's what brings the character full circle in a way. I think this could be done either by him leaving Ruby behind, and going to live his own life, or if Ruby does go with him, by the writers showing it's a much more healthy (family) relationship than Jake&Danny.

Edit: Don't you think that Jake has moved on though? To me he has changed a lot since shooting Danny, he seems to have a carefree attitude, become a bit of a womaniser and much harder, but he is still there when needed which is what "Brothers/Friends are for. To me he still cares but not as much, Jake has become much harder than he was and I think that he may be getting it out of his head that he has to make things better all the time, put things right before he can move on. To me Jake has moved on.
I think the Jake/Ruby scenaro is much better and healthier than Jake/Danny they're not so "clingy" and both are able to live their own lives.

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I honestly don't mind if Jake leaves alone

I won't either if he needs to go off somewhere and start afresh, new place/country even, new house, new job etc. (mean he's already made a start with the new hairdo:love: and his change in "Personality")but at some stage I would need to hear that he has finally found his happiness which he so deserves:)
11-07-2006, 23:00
diamond1

I dont adam and eve it.....my banner of jake was deleted :angry: all that hard work and some muppet deleted it from my computer documents,Im gonna have to go with my OB (from hollyoaks) one I made such a shame because it was screen shots of the episode where jake shot danny.
12-07-2006, 08:40
Babe14

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Originally Posted by diamond1

I dont adam and eve it.....my banner of jake was deleted :angry: all that hard work and some muppet deleted it from my computer documents,Im gonna have to go with my OB (from hollyoaks) one I made such a shame because it was screen shots of the episode where jake shot danny.

A little tip for you, whenever you do something always back it up to CD/DVD etc as you go along and when completed. I have learnt this the hard way:)
Sorry to hear that all your hard work has gone.

I can still see that scene now, Grant thinking that he had had it, a shot is heard and then Jake..awww..
Personally I think that they should of either of killed Danny off back last Feb, when he was meant to die in the deal with Andy, or in the fire.
12-07-2006, 10:35
diamond1

oh yeah I agree with that..jhonny allen should of shot danny in the woods for one it would of been better and would of gave a him a lot of credit as a gangster after all that dot/ruby/tina stuff that wrote him off as a character during may 2005 and two jake would of been more of an enemy towards jhonny allen and could still be involved with his downfall.

They made a mistake bringing jhonny in as a family man, a gangster on the outskirts would of suited him more plus I hated the whole ruby/jhonny/tina storyline in back in april/may 2005.

Jake and dannywhere also absent around that time.

Although I thought of a great episode it was one of jakes last scenes before he brieflhy left in july 2005 where jake wanted to talk to chrissie and sharon wouldnt let him and danny started on pauline and dennis threw him out on the street that was great it was hard not to laugh at danny crying
12-07-2006, 10:49
Babe14

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Originally Posted by diamond1

They made a mistake bringing jhonny in as a family man, a gangster on the outskirts would of suited him more plus I hated the whole ruby/jhonny/tina storyline in back in april/may 2005.

Originally Johnny was brought in as an "old Fashioned Gentlemanly Type" Gangster and it worked he was great. However this was short lived as "They" who run the show decided to rid the square of Gangsters (if only it was this easy in reality:rolleyes: ) and decided to "Assassinate" the characterof Johnny Allen, which they did with 200% success, as the character lost all credability. They did the same with Andy Hunter whom I enjoyed even though he turned into a real nasty piece of work in the end.
Hence the reason for Jake/Danny's short 3 month existance and there disappearance for a few months.

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Although I thought of a great episode it was one of jakes last scenes before he brieflhy left in july 2005 where jake wanted to talk to chrissie and sharon wouldnt let him and danny started on pauline and dennis threw him out on the street that was great it was hard not to laugh at danny crying

Yes the build up to and the actual "Exit" storyline was very good and I particularly loved that final scene in the Vic with Chrissie/Jake (Patrick/Keith in the background) where Jake was telling Chrissie a bit about his childhood, and if I remember correctly, we had Danny at the same time going off on one down the club also telling everyone about his and Jake's childhood.
Also I loved the window scene where we had Jake looking out at all the commotion in the square "Naked" and the scene in the bedroom afterwards..:wub: :wub:

Then when Jake returned everything started going downhill with him and Chrissie through poor scripting which made the character look weak.

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