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I really liked the episode, I was glued to the television, and again good cliffhanger. And when they showed Lucy hearing Peter was realistic.
And sorry I thought Phil had a X5 instead of a Range Rover.
I have to say I agree with alan on this. Yes, of course it is fiction and not real life and the stories have to be larger than life BUT it has to be believable. The whole point of a soap like Eastenders is that it is rooted in real life even if exaggerated. The problem with the last few years of Eastenders is that the plot lines are risible in many cases and the attention to detail just appalling. It is just sloppiness on the part of the production team and the idea behind it is they don't have to try too hard as they can get away with anything. It is also disrespectful to the viewers, it's as if they will put up with any old rubbish as long as it's called Eastenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan45;515807I
I used to be firmly in the Eastenders camp as opposed to Coronation Street but now I have to say I infintely prefer Corrie. Although also fiction and exaggerated for the sake of drama, its stories are for the most part much more believable and better thought out, the scripts much better and the continuity more thoughtful and not an insult to the viewer's intelligence.
Well, that's my twopennorth!:)
Thats fair enough if you prefer Corrie to Enders. However bear in mind, alot of us still like and enjoy EE. I personally have seen a big improvement in the soap in recent times, and its the soap I prefer to watch.
I just wondered why some people seem to watch EE just to pull it apart and make supposedly 'witty' comments about it and the peeps who watch it on here (one of the most recent comment I read was that people who watched EE were either boring or liked watching boring progs!:rolleyes: ), and moreover, jump at the chance to have a dig on every single EE thread....
I always try to give reasons for my criticisms of EE. Im not in the business of saying EE is crap without any explanation. It is at the end of the day only a soap as are Corrie and Emmerdale. I try to make my posts amusing to give people a bit of light relief from the My soap is better than your soap nonsense. You love EE, I dont have a problem with that and you put your point of view across in a very eloquent manner with reasoned arguments which I may or may not agree with. So please dont take offence at me when I diss EE I would rather not post about it than annoy you. At the end of the day its hardly the end of the world. At the moment Im preferring Emmerdale to Corrie anyway and its hardly the most realistic representation of a village in rural Yorkshire.
I watched the end of the omnibus today, thinking that with all the hype, this must be the break that EE has been waiting for, for the last 3 or 4 years, to get back to the top. But... It was just a bit rubbish. It lacked logic. They were at the bottom of the hill- why would it be able to roll down then? Phil even said to Billy "Go to the top of that hill". And if they were on a hill, with enough angle to move a whole bloody car, surely it would move just a little bit when Phil got out of it? (After all, he's hardly light). And then when it moved, he'd either get them all out carefully, or put the hand brake on- he's a mechanic!!
And when they got Peter out of the water, Phil stood there shaking him. Sure, they want to build up suspense, but pur-lease, shaking him?! At least try and recussitate (sp?) him!
Plus the "tree" they were going to crash into look rather much more like a twig to me!! I mean, not as huge as they were making it out to be.
And when Ian got dragged out of the car, he put him arms on the ground. Including the one that was dislocated or something. That wouldnt even be able to grab anything, let alone support his weight.
It was a good idea, but they were just a bit lame in the way they executed it. As has been said, it wasn't beleiveable, as there was so many flaws in it. Give us some credit, EE, and at least make sure your stories make sense!
In their defense there, it was rather big!! For a car. Smaller "twigs" than that tree could do huge damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abi
How stupid is Keith, its obvious that an animal who doesnt have a brain as good as humans that will allow it to avoid the wire is going to cause the tv to fall down the stairs and break oh and how did Keith move that tv doesnt the bloke have a "bad back" :searchme:
Genrally that episode was boring, thought the Mitchell/Beale thing was nice though and Honey and Billy were cute aswell :wub:
[COLOR="Red"]I cant say I totally enjoyed tonight's episode. It just seemed soooo contrived and sickly. Im glad that the feud is over....it had run its course, but Ian and Phil becoming bosom buddies, and allowing Billy to run the old fruit and veg stall...:eek: I think I preferred it when Phil was flushing Ian's head down the loo to this...:lol:
Apart from that, I enjoyed tonight offering...
Mad May the pill popping doc! :eek:
The increasingly sinister Stella...:eek:
Oh and I wish that Keith had taken a tumble down those stairs with the telly!
what was with Phils resusitation methods, rubbing on peters chest. I have to say that made me laugh a lot.
I really liked it.. I cried at the start with Ian. My heart went out to him. It was a bit contrived the whole beale/mitchell thing but when you come close to losing your child, petty squabbles should be dropped.
Stella is pure evil in a can and May is finally caught out.. do you think Naomi will say something?
I'm glad the feud is over it was becoming very boring. I have to say i'd like to see Phil and Jane hook up i think they get on really well and its not like he didn't go after Grant's ex before (i.e. Sharon). Dawn/May/Rob storyline is going on now for too long as is the Stacey/Max storyline.
It takes 9 months to have a baby, and the fact that the baby is really the whole point of the story line (why it actually started), it has to go on for at least that long. If it didnt, people would start going on about how unrealistic and unreasearched EE is. We get enough of that already
I think the Mitchell/Beale feud will go thru the kids, Ben and Peter.....Jane and Phil nah,,, ain't gonna happen,, they should bring Grant back, for a quickie,, hee he
I am sick of the whole Dawn/May/Rob triangle,, time for it to end,, May is going to get caught eventually ,,how long can a black eye last any way:searchme: shes been touching it up with make up to make it look worse than it really is,,Lets see what happens with the drugs Naomi discovers ....
Stacey and Max .. its gotta stop soon ,,,I just wish that they would fix things with Bradley and Stacey... but can't see how, especially if it all comes out about the doodling around Stacey did with his old man,, :wall:
I thought it was quite funny how Ian and Phil had made up and then Peter and Ben started to have a go
Keith doesn't have a bad back. He was found out in 2005, I think it was, when he was kicking a ball around with Darren. I agree, Vicky, I'm sure the Tv would have broken even if it wasn't half hanging off of the top stair. It was so funny when it was falling, and with Dawn still finding parts of it in tonight's episode.
Liking the fact that there could now be a pattern drawn between the fact that May has accused Rob of giving her a black eye and Naomi of taking a patients' medication, when, on both occasions, she did it.
only started watching again this week,it seems to be improving in parts with the may-rob-dawn scenario and the miller webcam story,just a shame that the stacy-max things not come to a head yet it just dosn't look right to me and dont get me started on mickey and lee they really irritate me,mickey was a great cockney wideboy but since thjey paired them up he seems to have lost his edge never mind i'll perservere till the end of the week and see if i can get back into it,i good reason to watch i also think is stella and ben,maybe i'll tape it so i can fast forward the bits that seem to make me lose interest
I hope Stradley getback together soon. Stax is all wrong. Max is old enough to be her father and he's married with children. Bradley and Stacey are just right. I can'thelp liking May still even despite her unfairly planting the drugs on Naomi and driving her away. I think May needs help but I wonder why Naomi said she was dangerous. Mickey/Li - they should split, Li is just using him. I can't wait to see more Stella/Phil/Ben. I think May and Stella are the best charecters so far. I was sorry for Jim today when Tanya blanked him - he has changed or he wouldn't hang out with Patrick. The poor man was completely bewildered and couldn't understand what he was supposed to have done. To be fair Jim did nothing wrong - it was his so called friends who beat up Max's black friend and locked Max in the coffin not Jim.
But if Max's version of the story was true, Jim did nothing to help him. When Max called to him to help Jim ignored him.
I couldn't stand by and watch that being done to either of my children and do nothing.
The thing is - this is Max's version and we all know what a liar he is. It will be interesting to hear Jim's version.
Can't believe i'm actually gonna say this but I think Naomi should have stayed. I didn't like her in the beginning with all the Sonia stuff but she wasn't too bad towards the end and I liked her interactions with May. I felt they could have done a bit more with her had she stayed a bit longer. There's far worse than her they could have got rid of.
I like Naomi too and am sorry she left. I know Martin and Sonia belong together but I didn't mind her relationship with Sonia - I like same sex relationships.
I suppose Max was telling the truth??? I know that he lied about being too afraid to go to the counsellor when he was actually with Stacey but I can't believe even Max could fabricate being locked in a coffin. Unlike Den who was to obsessed with Sharon and destroyed his family, Max despite his affairs still looks out for Tanya and his children and protects them from harm etc.
I completely agree with PB and Chris. Naomi really should have stayed, her character was completely wasted. EE producers could have done a lot more with her. I liked her scenes with May, Garry and Minty. Also, i liked the friendship Naomi and Dawn developed, and i wish Naomi stayed as her and Dawn could have joined forces to bring May down.
Maybe she will come back with vengence!!! and her, dawn and rob could bring down May.. but I like May's character.. it is very well acted
Erm, kind of felt tonight's episode was a bit of a let down after the build up to it...cant really explain it, just left a bit flat. Think its probably cause Ive always hated the Stacey and Max storyline, and cant believe they sacrificed the Bradders and Stace relationship for this (yet another tacky affair). Plus is was obvious (maybe cause I read the spoilers lol) that the whole sordid little affair wasnt going to come out tonight...
Just glad its over, wonder how long before it comes out and **it hits the fan! :eek: That will definitely be worth watching, as the characters central to this (Max, Tanya, Bradders, Stacey) are all played by very good actors.
It was, as usual, let down by terrible writing. The plot was like something out of a kid's book.........Max meets Stacy, Stacey finds out Tanya's pregnant, they have a row and Max takes Stacey home (much screeching of tyres), Stacey finds Bradley waiting for her......yawn.......Bradley leaves Stacey and goes to see Max, Max is in a panic because he's only got 5 minutes to save the world-sorry, his marriage, with 2 minutes to spare he gets rid of Bradley and talks Tanya into leaving everything to go away (now!) on holiday.......and they all get out just in time. All very dramatic, but rubbish. I mean, come on, are we seriously expected to believe that Tanya would go just like that?
I really liked it. I think both Max and Stacey were genuine when they told Bradley and Tanya thaty they didn't deserve them and had both done wrong. I think it is Tanya and the kids that Max truly loves. Like he himself said Stacey's a drug he is addicted to - there is no love there, just lust. Max should be with Tanya and Stacey with Bradley - that's right. I really liked them rushed off on holiday spontaneously - Max and Tanya were like two teenagers. If only Max wasn't so weak willed he could have continuedo resist Stacey just as Tanya resisted Sean.
[QUOTE]Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......[QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with that, I think that's quite romantic.
[QUOTE=Lizzie Brookes;516517][QUOTE]Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......Nothing wrong with that except he is sha**ing a teenager:rotfl:Quote:
Nothing wrong with that, I think that's quite romantic.
Exactly Al, I couldnt have put it better myself, except to add....he is sha**ing a teenager in the Vic ladies loos.Quote:
Max and Tanya were like two teenagers.......Nothing wrong with that except he is sha**ing a teenager:rotfl:Quote:
Nothing wrong with that, I think that's quite romantic.
Max is a total git, who wants to have his cake and eat it. He's really in need of the Bobbit treatment to curb his ways...:D lol