Chrissie Watts

Yes I think the stuff with Sam and Chrissie along with Dennis and Sharon is going to be gripping! I assume that Sharon and Dennis are going to believe that Chrissie wasn't behind the murder. And then there'll be Phil, Grant and Peggy on Sam's side. But maybe it won't take too much to convince Dennis and Sharon that Chrissie could have something to hide.

Obviously I don't know what's going to happen but I think it would be great if Sharon and Dennis started off being on Chrissie's side but then gradually as they started to become more suspicious, take the side of the Mitchells. And they help each other get rid of Chrissie once and for all.

I know the Mitchells and the Watts have never been close (well Sharon has been close to them a lot! lol.), but I think it's a case of keeping your enemies close and they could really use each other to their own advantage.

yeah that is true.

This is why I love EastEnders so much. It's really pulling itself together now.

sorry if this has aready been sent but , if there was n proof that chrissie did it there wouldnt be any proof that sam did it would there? and she can hardly frame her can she and make it out that it was sam can she? of she could then how coz i have no clue , and if she uses a nother eapon and uses her own blood to wipe all over it to make that the weapon they used then they would do a dna teat and blood test and fingerprint teat and it will have all her fingrprints over it and not sams ... ?!

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Originally Posted by kat 4 alfie

sorry if this has aready been sent but , if there was n proof that chrissie did it there wouldnt be any proof that sam did it would there? and she can hardly frame her can she and make it out that it was sam can she? of she could then how coz i have no clue , and if she uses a nother eapon and uses her own blood to wipe all over it to make that the weapon they used then they would do a dna teat and blood test and fingerprint teat and it will have all her fingrprints over it and not sams ... ?!

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The murder weapon and Den will have Sam's fingerprints all over them. They'll have Chrissie's aswell but that's hardly unusual considering she won't have to lie about giving Pauline the dog back and Den's her husband so it's not unusual that her fingerprints are all over him and her pub.

no matter how much Chrisse would have cleaned it will still have Chrisses, Sam and zoes fingerprints on it.
So the poilce will have to inspect them all.

Not necessarily. You just have to wipe it and fingerprints disappear.

i know it will have both of there finger prints on my point exactly so i dont know how sam could be arrested and chrissie not ! and how would the police wknow that the weapon was the dog ? if one of them told the police that that ws the weapon then it would be odviouse that it was them or that they knew bout it ! so i was just sayin that if chrissie planted something to make it seam that sam did it , how would she , its kind of imposible coz she cant use a nother weapon and plant that as the weapon coz then she will have to put hr blood on it and it wont have sams fingerprints on just hers , and the police will be able to find out that that was new blood and that it wasnt dens . im just sayin if she did do that not that she would but what could she do to plant sam in it ? ... thats just what i was gettin at if you know what i mean !

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Originally Posted by squarelady

Not necessarily. You just have to wipe it and fingerprints disappear.

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Depends, if the fingers are in blood even if its clean to the naked eye, the police can use luminal to show up blood

Sorry been watching too many forensic detectives!

True but she did try her best to scrub it very well!

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Originally Posted by squarelady

True but she did try her best to scrub it very well!

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Yea true.

TBH I dont expect them to be forensically (is thata word?) accurate

Well they never are in soaps jude!

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

Well they never are in soaps jude!

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No thats true!

I hope they try to maintain a touch of realism though with the investigation.

Me too, it gets silly half the time.

It has to though because it's a soap.

i hope ee are going to do this in a different wat to mel healy doing her runner,cos i'm sick of them repeating themselves with different charectors,also how can the door be left open if she dosn't go to prison,the police never close a murder enquiry,so if she did return she'd still be looking at a murder rap'i hope they lock her up,and throw away the key,untill such time as the actor was to return if ever

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Originally Posted by callummc

i hope ee are going to do this in a different wat to mel healy doing her runner,cos i'm sick of them repeating themselves with different charectors,also how can the door be left open if she dosn't go to prison,the police never close a murder enquiry,so if she did return she'd still be looking at a murder rap'i hope they lock her up,and throw away the key,untill such time as the actor was to return if ever

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Agreed, It was the same with Phil, he was only back for two episodes before he got banged up.

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Originally Posted by callummc

i hope ee are going to do this in a different wat to mel healy doing her runner,cos i'm sick of them repeating themselves with different charectors,also how can the door be left open if she dosn't go to prison,the police never close a murder enquiry,so if she did return she'd still be looking at a murder rap'i hope they lock her up,and throw away the key,untill such time as the actor was to return if ever

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They only say "The door has been left open..." to keep the fans of that character happy. I thought everybody knew that and that's why most of them never return.

yes i do know that,but i for 1 want some realism from ee,i doubt the actress would ever want to return,but we all know that unless she pays for her crime,that this is murder and most countries would extradite her,so really to make some other fans happy she should pay for her crime

wounder why she is deciding to leave when she signed a contract for another 12 months

I read in one of the soap magazines that it was a joint decision as the writers felt they couldn't do anymore with character after 'den's body being dug up' storyline has run it's course... it's stupid really... i don't see why there going to dig up his body in the first place... she's been a specular actress and has help raise the ratings... why get rid of her?

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Originally Posted by Angeldelight

I read in one of the soap magazines that it was a joint decision as the writers felt they couldn't do anymore with character after 'den's body being dug up' storyline has run it's course... it's stupid really... i don't see why there going to dig up his body in the first place... she's been a specular actress and has help raise the ratings... why get rid of her?

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Because the producers don't want Den under the 'Vic' forever perhaps?
I don't blame them to be honest it's got to be wrapped up somehow it's like the 'Body under the patio' saga in 'Brookside' that had to come up to wrap the storyline up eventually too!

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Originally Posted by kirsty_g

wounder why she is deciding to leave when she signed a contract for another 12 months

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Well we know she wasn't axed it was just a case of Tracy-Ann being so devoted to the programme she mutually agreed with the producers that to maintain realism Chrissie has to leave once Den is found.

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

Because the producers don't want Den under the 'Vic' forever perhaps?
I don't blame them to be honest it's got to be wrapped up somehow it's like the 'Body under the patio' saga in 'Brookside' that had to come up eventually too!

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They couldn't keep him there forever it just wouldn't be right.

I think the body under the patio storyline was much better than this one.

It was because you had the domestic violence thing and Mandy and Beth were fantastic, this sort of came out of nowhere. I do believe it's paved the way for lots of potential drama though...

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Originally Posted by callummc

yes i do know that,but i for 1 want some realism from ee,i doubt the actress would ever want to return,but we all know that unless she pays for her crime,that this is murder and most countries would extradite her,so really to make some other fans happy she should pay for her crime

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She can just go on the run and never be seen or heard from again hence giving the character an happy ending. Okay so the police would be looking for but I'm sure there's loads of places for her to go she could head to Spain for starters.

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

She can just go on the run and never be seen or heard from again hence giving the character an happy ending. Okay so the police would be looking for but I'm sure there's loads of places for her to go she could head to Spain for starters.

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It worked for Mel and Den

I don't want anybody to go down for the murder that's not where the drama is going to stem from. It's stemming from Sharons reaction and the exits of the remaining key characters Sam and Chrissie it's good that Sam gets arrested etc and we have Chrissie being pushed into Den's grave but I don't want anybody to go down for it.

I don't think either Chrissie or Sam will go down for it as it's Sam's word against Chrissie's so the poilce will never know who actually killed him... and they can't prove it was Chrissie and not Sam or the other way around...

true but kat might stand up ... without the zoe part of course if thats possable ? no i dont think it is .

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Originally Posted by Angeldelight

I don't think either Chrissie or Sam will go down for it as it's Sam's word against Chrissie's so the poilce will never know who actually killed him... and they can't prove it was Chrissie and not Sam or the other way around...

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The police can prove Chrissie had something to do with it because it's her pub and she MUST know something about it plus the police are going to find out that Den signed the pub over to her after he was buried so she's in deep trouble.

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Originally Posted by kat 4 alfie

true but kat might stand up ... without the zoe part of course if thats possable ? no i dont think it is .

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Zoe is out of the country so even if she is dropped right in it Kat can telephone her up and tell her to flee to another place.

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

The police can prove Chrissie had something to do with it because it's her pub and she MUST know something about it plus the police are going to find out that Den signed the pub over to her after he was buried so she's in deep trouble.

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yeh... but they can't prove she killed him... of course she knows something but it's what they can prove that counts

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Originally Posted by kat 4 alfie

true but kat might stand up ... without the zoe part of course if thats possable ? no i dont think it is .

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i can't see Kat even thinking about putting Zoe in danger of going to prison... Zoe's something she won't risk...

Unless Kat tells Zoe about Chrissie framing Sam and Zoe tells her to go to the police, I can't see Kat getting involved.

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Originally Posted by Angeldelight

yeh... but they can't prove she killed him... of course she knows something but it's what they can prove that counts



i can't see Kat even thinking about putting Zoe in danger of going to prison... Zoe's something she won't risk...

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I think the forensics do point more towards Chrissie being the killer.

So why do they arrest Sam? it's confusing trying to figure out how they're gonna do this storyline... but i can't see either of them going to prison...

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Originally Posted by Angeldelight

So why do they arrest Sam? it's confusing trying to figure out how they're gonna do this storyline... but i can't see either of them going to prison...

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They probably arrest her because it's made out that she was the last one to see Den but all she has to say was "was I working at the pub that night?, it's not my pub is it? why would I put the body in the cellar of a pub I don't own? how did I do it without being seen by the landlady?" The prosecution would tear Chrissie apart if she gave evidence against Sam in a court of law as well.

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

Zoe is out of the country so even if she is dropped right in it Kat can telephone her up and tell her to flee to another place.

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could happen but i dont think so because , i dont think that zoe would make her liver her life like that , running away from the police .

she would have to if the police want to charge her with his murder and she wants to keep her out of jail