In my post on 16/5 I suspected that Shirley is Mick's mum. Wonder who the dad will turn out to be?
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In my post on 16/5 I suspected that Shirley is Mick's mum. Wonder who the dad will turn out to be?
I'm kind of disappointed in the "big twist".
First, it's been clearly signposted for weeks so it wasn't a big surprise. The fact that Shirley kept referring to her "son" throughout the episode gave it away immediately. I was hoping for another explanation for the attempted drowning rather than the really obvious, melodramatic one. I feel a big sense of anti-climax. :(
Secondly, I chose to ignore the hints that were being dropped because I really thought they shouldn't go there again after Kat and Zoe. That was one of the biggest and most successful storylines in British soap history and is still very clearly etched in my mind. A repeat feels way too soon.
Thirdly, I was looking forward to Dean being back and his and Shirley's relationship being explored in depth. That's been completely overshadowed now and I for one am disappointed about it. Shirley doesn't even seem to remember that Dean exists!
The only plus side as far as I'm concerned is that there'll be some intense scenes coming up featuring Shirley, Mick and Stan which will no doubt be mesmerising.
Hopefully it'll have a very different slant and I won't keep getting a sense of deja vu. I expect I'll enjoy it after my initial disappointment because the actors involved are so good and the writing has been excellent recently. I just hope that Dean's relationship with his mum doesn't keep on being sidelined.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
On the surface it really screams Kat and Zoe but I'm trying to refrain from commenting too much until I've had more time to think it over (I was out and have only just seen the episode.)
I really liked Shirley and Mick as brother and sister though.
I dont think shirley/mick is a repeat of kat/zoe.
Shirley and mick are mother and son, they are over 30, shirley drowned mick in the bath, sylvia left them and stan was horrible.
Theyve also got Tina involved.
I loved the ep - phil/shirley were as amazing as ever. However i dont think he has strong romantic feelings ATM but they will develop soon now he knows this secret. He will have to lie to sharon about it as he wont betray shirley. I loved how sharon felt threatened she deserved it after being horrible to shirley.
The end i thought was weird, they couldve panned to shirley and mick walking off after phils shocked face.
I hope we find out who Mick's father is, I don't think it is Stan as Nancy asked Shirley if he abused her and she answered if he did she would kill him
I like the dynamic and chemistry between Mick and Shirley (plus Linda and Danny are great actors, Danny really has shone since he came to Eastenders credit to him and the writers) and when Dean finds out Mick is his half brother sparks will fly we already seen they don't get on
Sharon deserves a slap I was hoping Shirley would have
anyone else think david is dying this week poor carol and bianca and even him and ian also are bounding and getting close
yeap i think you are right. do you think they are showing a lot of scenes lately with david eating and not healthy food either?
nice scenes tonight with ian and david and also bianca and david.
He seem to have neck trouble also tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
So Lucy sent horrid texts to Whitney and she wrote the rot in hell card
So is that it then with phil knowing ? Im not sure if he knows for sure or now just thinks she meant dean as he saw Dean going to the vic. This has potential for some amazing scenes it would be a waste, the chemistry was there between them again shirl isnt just a mate. He seems to be around her a lot more than he is sharon.
Why didn't anyone help David?
Loved David pushing Nikki into the rubbish
Carol looked lovely
i love it when there are no spoilers. nice to see honey and poor david. will he die?
Did Sharon basically admit to David she don't love Phil that is what I took from the scene which was nice, the best one for Sharon since her return imo
Didn't see that coming for David!
Yes, I think he will as the actor is leaving EE :(Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Yes, I think he will as the actor is leaving EE :(Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I think he does as what else could do with him for an exit as the cad David changed his ways became a family man about to marry his true love childhood sweetheart and even building bridges with his half brother IanQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
It is a shame though as the character and actor are so loveable
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Phil knows, even though Shirley tried to deny it. He knows her too well to be taken in though, I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
I'm going to be very upset if David dies, even though I really, really don't want him to leave Carol in the lurch again. If he lives, at least Michael French can return to EE some day. Poor Carol's anguish in the car when she thought David had stood her up was quite upsetting. I'm not sure that I can bear to watch Thursday. :(
So David didn't die but looks like him and Carol are all over
I'm guessing Honey is planning on leaving the country with the kids and has to tell Billy
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i was a little under whelmed by tonight's episode. sonia why did you not call an ambulance?
good scenes with ian and carol.
Yeah he looked very confused in that scene, so i was unsure. So glad he mentioned it again but i did think it was a little sly mentioning it when he knows she doesn't want to talk about it. Still she's also kept this from him and they were going to marry so he's bound to be bothered she lied about this. Its so obvious he would rather be with her than SharonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Just wondering, but would sonia not be allowed time off to look after her mum who has cancer and that she has the gene? Surely they wouldn't sack her when she's got a mum who could die and her sister's dad has had a heart attack.
Sorry double post
I think he was confused because he didn't expect Shirley to deny she was Mick's mum.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
I was thinking she's going to move away too. Billy will be devastated. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
So stupid!! As a nurse she would have known that the paramedics would start treating David on the spot, thus lessening his risk of death even if they were slower getting him to the hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Carol realised during her talk with Ian that marrying David wouldn't have made her happy. That's no reason to blame him for having a heart attack though! As if anyone would manufacture a heart attack to get out of a relationship!! I'm disgusted with Carol's reaction. :thumbsdow
I know I was initially disappointed with the reveal that Shirley is Mick's mum, but I do like the way it's playing out with the audience being in on the secret. I wonder how long it'll be before Mick finds out?
I'm glad to see Dean's finally moving into the square and that Shirley's trying to make it up to him.
Don't worry, it's a bug in the software. You can stop it happening by using the "Go Advanced" option when you post.Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisa62003
i think it could be a tear jerker tonight. will we get a julia's theme tonight?
At least he did not die .... hopefully he will be back one day ...
Here's hoping...David is one of my all-time favourite EE characters, despite his flaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Masterfully acted scenes between Lindsey Coulson and Michael French, although I felt quite frustrated with both Carol and David and their inability to maintain a relationship despite their very obvious love for one another. :(
excellent scenes with lindsey and michael (not quite a two hander) even patsy was good and a julia theme at the end was the cherry on the cake. :)
Ditto, it was so painful to see two people who obviously love each other so much but can't make it work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
tonights epsiode was ok, it seemed to me like a filler episode. enjoyed the scenes with tina and shilrey taking the mick out of billy and that shirt and it was funny to see the look on their faces when they saw honey.:) apart from that nothing to shout home about.
Well I am annoyed at Carol, I think David was doing everything he could for her in her condition and she throw it in his face, she even made him leave just as his relationship with Bianca too was going good, she deserved to have her dad around
Carol didn't force David to leave Walford and his family, that was his own decision. Relationships split all the time without the people in question running off abroad and leaving their families behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I'm not sure who's more to blame for the breakdown of Carol and David's relationship. He seemed genuinely committed this time, but after a lifetime of the opposite why would Carol believe he meant it this time? Arranging to take her to a plastic surgeon was a completely thoughtless thing to do to a woman who's afraid of being unattractive after a mastectomy. It just reinforced her fears that David would no longer find her attractive. I don't doubt David's intentions were good, but Carol understandably found it insulting.
Then again, Carol's lack of sympathy for David's heart attack was awful. I don't blame him for reacting so angrily, and I was quite taken aback that he came back for more to be honest.
It was a very complex relationship.
I would like to see more scenes between Ian and Carol, build up a good deep friendship between them, both have lost kids so they have that and David in common
so do you reckon ian was calling ben and that is who he meet on good friday
yes i think you may be right.
a better episode tonight, liked the scenes with honey and linda. kellie bright is very good as linda, it feels as though she has been in the square a long time, its hard to believe she has only been in the show since christmas. i can see the character of linda being in the show long term.
i cannot feel sorry for billy. what a choice for honey to make. staying in walford e20 0r going to canada. run honey, run!
I did feel very sorry for Billy at first. It would be devastating for most parents not to see their children for a year. I saw a different side though when Honey explained to Linda how hard it's been to cope as a single mother. I admit I was quite shocked that Billy hasn't been any help to her, as I assumed he was helping out off-screen. It's hard to feel sorry for him when he hasn't taken any of the burden for caring for the kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I wonder what'll happen now?
I enjoyed Dean stirring Tina and Tosh's relationship. :D
It is always the same storylines for Billy struggling to cope and manage but he does love his kids and Lola, Jay and Lexi too
I don't like Tosh and Tina as a couple