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There was so much other stuff going on round the time of her first pregnancy, like her thinking it could be Archie's as a result of the rape, her reconciliation with Bradley and the fact that she wasn't taken her medication regularly anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I'm feeling more and more sure it's going to be revealed that Kush is Stacey's baby's father. My reasoning:
- Months ago, Stacey and Kush spent an evening drinking together at her flat. It was made obvious they were attracted to reach other, but we were never shown what happened next (and it's never been mentioned since - a quite glaring omission in my opinion).
- Stacey found out she was pregnant just after Shabnam did, so she knew she had no chance with Kush (and hopefully didn't want to ruin things for Shabnam either).
- Stacey wasn't keen on Martin, and in fact was just using him to try and make Kush jealous, until she found out she was pregnant.
- She's has been excluding Martin from the pregnancy and has given no good reason for it.
- Stacey asked Ronnie if she's ever done the wrong thing for the right reason.
- Martin is currently being portrayed as completely useless and not capable of being a supportive partner and father.
- Shabnam's baby has died and Kush will no doubt be grief stricken about the loss. Also - particularly relevant to Stacey - he'll no longer be bound to Shabnam by their child.
My last two point in particular make me think it'll all come out soon because Stacey has changed her mind about Martin being the father (and perhaps she genuinely doesn't know for sure).
I really hope I'm wrong about this! :wall:
im thinking daz is right
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Stacey's slip of the tongue when she said "my...our baby" was certainly very telling.
I'm hoping the best case scenario is that she doesn't know for sure and that it will eventually turn out to be Martin's baby.
Soaps love to make relationships happy before tearing them down, so the fact Stacey and Martin reached an understanding doesn't bode well for them. She even said she loves him - and I think she does genuinely care for him - but I find it hard to believe she's completely let go of her intense feelings for Kush.
Seriously! How many times are they going to do this with Stacey? Once was good, but twice is repugnant!
Just bear in mind this is only a theory of mine at the moment and I could be completely and utterly wrong. It has been known to happen... :oQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
Also, the circumstances of Lily's conception were very different because Stacey's bipolar was out of control and her behaviour was all over the place at the time. She thought Archie (who raped her) was the father at one point.
Yeah, I remember that. A reasonable deduction at the time. I remember Ronnie telling her, though, that that was impossible because Archie had had chemo, and thus was left sterile afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I know you dont want to be right but onQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
balance think you probably are.
Martin being the father and a long term
relationship with Stacey would be the
"happy Ending"-if he was up to
the job but it wouldnt have the dramatic
possibilities that Kush being the father has.!
Or.after problem at time round Lilys birth
and the bi-polar issue- Stacey may feel
better without a "reliable " partner.
Also Kat away for some time -si Slater
support missing.
And again more dramatic?? if on her own.
I don't think the baby will be revealed to be Kush's. A Slater-Fowler baby carries a lot of legacy. If Kush were the father, then it doesn't add anything; the father is a relative nobody in terms of the history of the show, just like Lily's was. To make the same woman pregnant on screen twice, the second time has to add something.
Stacey would become public enemy number one if Kush was the father, considering what has happened to Shabnam. I don't think DTC would want that for her.
Well -it doesnt have to become public knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I was thinking more of Staceys feelings.
They like to give her lots of angst. There must
be a reason why she seems to be changing
towards Martin and hes become so ....hopeless?
A small point Fowler/Beales have been in square
for decades -before Programme started.
Slaters are relative new-comers?!
Well -it doesnt have to become public knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I was thinking more of Staceys feelings.
They like to give her lots of angst. There must
be a reason why she seems to be changing
towards Martin and hes become so ....hopeless?
A small point Fowler/Beales have been in square
for decades -before Programme started.
Slaters are relative new-comers?!
Apart from a lot of angst. Can you imagine what it will do to Shabs if she finds out if Stacey's having Kush's baby, now that her own has died?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Slaters are relative newcomers compared to the Beales/Fowlers but they have been there for 15 years, so some history in their own right. Certainly of some importance and a lot more than the likes of Kush and Ryan.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I have rarely watched the show of late as DTC lost his shine for me after a few months. I feel like he is doing more harm than good these days. I don't know where he's going with Martin, perhaps he doesn't even know. Stories don't seem as well planned out as they once were. I certainly hope that Stacey's baby isn't Kush's. Nothing stays secret in Albert Square and whether it's public knowledge or not, it's more character assassination by DTC if it does happen. If it did happen, I could see it being reduced (along with the associated stillbirth) as plot devices for Shabnam to suddenly want a relationship with Jade.
Im not advocating that the baby should beQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Kushs -just suggesting that based on recent
events and characters behaviour -it will
quite possibly be so.!
I agree with your points about lack of story
planning and changes in characters personalities.
Usually done for dramatic effect and/or
exit stories and affect all Soaps to.some
extent.I agree that it would "spoil" some
characters and have unpleasant/ tragic
reperrcussions
It would be great if we had a happy relationship
between Stacey & Martin but doesnt look
like it will end that. Apart from some of her
time with Bradley -dont think.Stacey has had
much happiness-but thats the role they write
for her?!
We cant be sure that she has had sexual
intercourse with Kush yet. But if she did
- then the usual result of a"one-night
stand" in Soapland is a ....baby!!
Probably suitable paternity and heritage
dont have much hope against that tradition!
dupl
Stacey's slip up in Friday's episode (where she nearly said "my baby" to Martin) was the kind of thing that's done for a reason in soaps (indeed in all dramas). So all indications at the moment are that there's a lot more to come in this storyline.
The only thing going against the theory we've been discussing is we've never been given any direct indication she and Kush slept together, and Stacey didn't appear to be at all worried about the baby's parentage when she discovered the pregnancy. Obviously, both of these omissions can be explained by there being no possibility Kush is the father - or the writers deliberately misleading us.
Kim's right that a Fowler/Slater baby would be preferable for the show's future, so I'm hoping that if this theory is correct it'll turn out to be Martin's baby anyway. However, the truth is that any child of Stacey Slater is an important future character.
According to the following article, Shabnam and Kush are about to implode so I think it's likely Stacey will start hankering after him again.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-...t-and-run-away
I'm still hoping that's the most likely eventual outcome of this storyline, even if I'm proved correct that Stacey currently considers Kush the biological father of her child.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I saw a "my baby" comment on Monday and while I haven't seen Friday's episode, it doesn't necessarily mean anything. "My baby" seems to be the kind of thing that some women come out with because they are the ones carrying said baby for nine months. Especially when they're not in a committed relationship. Stacey and Martin seem to me to be trying to make it work for the sake of the child rather than actually wanting to be together (especially from Stacey's side; Martin was after her from the off.) Unfortunately, the child can end up being used as a weapon when the two sides disagree.
My take was that Stacey wasn't impressed with how Martin had handled her bipolar previously, so rather than get annoyed at him, she thought she'd try to keep bipolar out of the equation. That meant having to decide about her meds alone.
The slip up I was referring to happened on Friday when Stacey hastily corrected herself. I'd already noticed her calling the baby "my baby" and thought little of it (because of her vacillating feelings towards Martin), but Friday's slip further raised my suspicions after her enigmatic "have you ever done the wrong thing for the right reason?" to Ronnie. (Anyone have any idea what else Stacey could have meant by this?)
When we first found out Stacey was pregnant, lots of us jumped to the conclusion it could be Kush's child (just take a look back on this very thread). However, Stacey never gave any indication it could be his so that train of thought quickly died a death.
No doubt we'll soon find out if I'm on the right track now Shabnam and Kush's relationship is in trouble. As I said, I hope I'm wrong because I'd like the baby to be Martin's and don't want the love triangle to rear its ugly head again... :thumbsdow
I am losing faith in DTC after his turnaround on Dean, trying to get sympathy for a rapistQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
I hope Stacey didn't sleep with Kush and that he isn't her baby's father
EastEnders boss Dominic Treadwell-Collins has started the rumour mill on Stacey Branning's (Lacey Turner) baby.
The executive producer hinted that the father of the unborn child might not be who viewers have assumed it is, her boyfriend Martin Fowler (James Bye).
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Stacey tells Martin she is thinking of coming off her medication
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Stacey (Lacey Turner) and Martin (James Bye) in EastEnders
Treadwell-Collins teased the potential twist when asked by The Sun's TV Soap supplement about how the friendship between Stacey and Shabnam (Rakhee Thakrar) might change.
"The first story for us is how it puts a strain on your friendship if your best friend is pregnant and you've lost a baby, which I think is a very real story," he outlined.
"Underneath that, you have also got the audience starting to realise that the baby may not be Martin's."
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Stacey and Kush kiss
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Stacey and Kush kiss
The EastEnders boss could well have been hinting towards Stacey perhaps sleeping with Shabnam's fiancee Kush (Davood Ghadami) off-screen, given they've previously shared a kiss.
Last week, viewers saw Shabnam have a change of heart over her daughter Jade.
I think.Kush being the father is what mostQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
viewers would expect to.happen but hoped
wouldnt!!
So no "twist" just - same old same old!!
Dupl
No, it's not exactly an original twist, is it? I wrote a long post about my suspicions when Stacey asked Ronnie "have you ever done the wrong thing for the right reason?" a few weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
Stacey's pregnant. Again. Stacey's baby has multiple potential fathers. Again. What trip back to Santer era should we expect from DTC next? DNA test in a Christmas cracker anyone?
At the risk of being boring- I will quote theQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
philosopher /poet George Santayana who
said "Those who forget the past are condemned
to repeat it"**
So I presume soap management are fitted
with some sort of auto-erase feature!!
I missed a fair amount of the Santer era-
but he did seem to have strange ideas
especially about Lacey( Stacey)
** there are some variations!
Dupl
Given the number of departures this year (and only Stan's, Aleks's, Carol's and Max's by choice of the actor, it seems) I really think that DTC is pandering to his own ego/likes with these trips down memory lane (DTC previously worked on the show during Santer era.) I don't think it's any coincidence that all the DTC enforced departures are characters that didn't appear during Santer era, and all his returns are characters that did appear during Santer era. Les seems the only exception. I wonder if his days are numbered..
Aside from this storyline, we've also had the following repeats of Santer era:
- Excessive pregnancies (although even worse under DTC!)
- Ronnie and Roxy love triangle
- The return of Nick Cotton
- The return of Robbie Jackson
- The return of Sonia Fowler
- The arrival of Nick Cotton's never before mentioned offspring
- Who's the Daddy plots - and Kush potentially lined up to be the next Jack Branning (multiple offspring within months of each other)
I've probably forgotten some.
Probably a good job that Kellie Shirley has just had twins. If not, it would be another Santer era throwback with Carly - and even more Carters about the place.
In my opinion, DTC has been slowly destroying the show since Summer 2014.
Could Max or Ryan instead be the father not Kush
Anything's possible but I doubt it. I still hope it'll turn out to be Martin's baby even if Stacey thinks (or hopes) it's Kush's, because it'd be nice to have more Fowlers on the square.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
The mystery of Stacey Branning's key in EastEnders has been raising more questions than it's answered since the storyline was introduced in March 2014, but that could all be about to change.
Everything will become a little bit clearer in just a few weeks' time, according to Dominic Treadwell-Collins.
@SuseHill @Matt528chap All will become clearer (well a little clearer) in a few weeks' time...
— DomTreadwellCollins (@dominictc) November 6, 2015
The EastEnders boss took the time out to appease frustrated fans who were eager to get to the bottom of the ongoing mystery on Twitter last night (November 6) and promised that we only have to wait a little bit longer before we get some answers.
While we don't know too much about what the key is for right now, we do know that it has a family connection, as earlier this year it was revealed that Stacey received the key from her brother Sean, and it once belonged to their dad.
The key mystery thickened in the soap's Halloween episode after secretive newcomer Kyle appeared in Walford sporting a mysterious key of his own, hinting that he could be connected to Stacey in some way.
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Kyle has a key around his neck
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Kyle has a key around his neck
EastEnders first announced the arrival of Kyle in October, revealing that the character will become a permanent addition to the cast later this year.
Kyle is played by trans actor Riley Carter Millington.
Kyle is more likely Stacey's half sibling from her dad Brian given how predictable the show has become plus now Stacey regresses back to homewrecker as she is pregnant with her best friend's husband Kush's baby
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Lacey Turner has been seen filming scenes as Stacey Slater for EastEnders' Christmas episodes.
And it looks like the BBC soap is going to be as dramatic as always.
In the pictures, Stacey is seen escaping from hospital with her newborn baby – who was recently revealed to be Kush Kazemi's child, rather than her boyfriend Martin Fowler's.
She appears to be very distressed in the pictures, her eyes red and blotchy from crying.
The pictures show Stacey running away with the child and hailing a taxi in the rain and pitch-black - and the driver is her uncle, Charlie Slater.
The outspoken character is dressed scruffily, in big shawl, tracksuit bottoms and boots.
Stacey's newborn baby is wrapped in a sling and wearing a baby-blue cap, suggesting she's given birth to a boy.
These are the first pictures of Derek Martin returning as Charlie, having left the soap in 2010 after 10 years on Albert Square – apart from a few guest stints in 2011 and 2013.
However, it's thought he's set to be killed off in a dramatic New Year plot.
Charlie will meet a grisly end when he returns to Albert Square for one final time in January, coinciding with his daughter Kat Slater – played by Jessie Wallace, who recently broke her leg –and Alfie Moon's (Shane Richie) comeback.
Kat will apparently be hit the hardest by his sudden death.
An insider told the Daily Mirror: "Charlie's death is going to hit Kat hard.
"The storyline will be the catalyst for her to learn more secrets which will see her and Alfie eventually head to Ireland.
"Charlie's death is going to be a real tearjerker for the audience, too, and they will be waiting to see if he and Kat can mend bridges before he dies."
Stacey Branning is set to battle a rare mental illness over Christmas in EastEnders.
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Due to give birth just before the holidays, Stacey (played by Lacey Turner) will suffer from postpartum psychosis, which affects new mums and can cause mood swings and hallucinations.
The Mirror reports that EastEnders bosses have worked with charities to learn about the condition. Women who suffer from it have made "several" trips to Elstree to talk to Turner and staff.
"Stacey's mental health story will be one of our biggest storylines over Christmas and the beginning of 2016 as we explore Stacey's bipolar disorder and its effects on her and those closest to her," executive producer Dominic Treadwell-Collins said.
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Stacey gets out of the cab with a baby carrier
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The condition can affect a woman without pre-existing mental health issues, but it is more likely to affect a mother who has bipolar disorder. Stacey was diagnosed with the disorder on the soap in 2009.
Treadwell-Collins noted that he wants the storyline to explore the effects of postpartum psychosis and "look at what we are doing as a country to help mothers experiencing this".
Clare Dolman of Bipolar UK has praised EastEnders for "raising awareness of this devastating condition" and said that several of the charity's volunteers have visited the soap's studio to tell writers and researchers what it is like.
Mind's Alison Kerry added: "We have been working with the EastEnders team to develop this storyline over several months and have been impressed by the dedication they have shown in portraying postpartum psychosis sensitively."
The news follows the announcement that EastEnders will shock fans by killing off one of its characters on Christmas Day.
Women who kill their babies are often unknowingly suffering from postpartum psychosis. :(
I actually thought my daughter was suffering from it just after she'd given birth (nearly a year ago now!). She stayed with me for a week after the birth and one night she woke me shouting that the fire alarm was going off. It wasn't, so I suggested she'd fallen asleep feeding her baby daughter and dreamt it. She insisted she hadn't fallen asleep and that the fire alarm had sounded, so I went to look for the source of the smoke (even though I couldn't smell anything). There was nothing amiss but she absolutely kept insisting it wasn't a dream.
Knowing about postpartum psychosis, I began to seriously fear she'd hallucinated the whole thing and felt very worried. Luckily, nothing similar happened and we both agree now she fell asleep momentarily and dreamt the whole thing. Phew! :)
I hope nothing bad happens to Stacey or her baby. :(
Could Shabham push Kush for custody of Stacey's baby if she discovers and truth and stays with him?
Well if Stacey's not well enough to look after the baby then her best friend might offer to look after it...Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Well if Stacey's not well enough to look after the baby then her best friend might offer to look after it...Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
That would be nice, but what I fear is that Shabnam and Kush might try and use Stacey's illness to get custody of the baby. Shabnam's pining for Jade and Zaair, and it's been suggested she's going to be told she can't have more children. Plus she's likely to hate Stacey when she finds out her baby's paternity. Also, I wouldn't trust Kush an inch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
I hope EE don't go down this route because Shabnam's currently one of the only characters on the square that I like.
EastEnders favourite Stacey Branning will become convinced that her newborn baby is the son of God in tragic scenes after she gives birth.
Stacey will welcome the arrival of a baby boy in a touching Christmas Eve episode, but there won't be an easy time ahead for her in the aftermath as she starts battling a rare mental illness.
Show bosses recently announced that Stacey will begin suffering from postpartum psychosis, which affects new mums and can cause hallucinations.
Although it takes a while for anyone to realise what is wrong, Dot Branning will become concerned when Stacey claims that her son has been sent by God as a saviour for everyone.
Dot, who recently encouraged Stacey to show an interest in Christianity, knows that her claims are very worrying but isn't sure what to do for the best.
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Stacey tells Dot about seeing a vision of her dad on Halloween
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Stacey's struggles will follow an eventful few weeks, including the revelation of what her secret key opens. Her best friend Shabnam Masood will also soon realise that her husband Kush Kazemi is the father of Stacey's baby, which is sure to cause fireworks between them all.
As Stacey's inner turmoil builds, she decides that she needs to be closer to God. Wanting to be up high, Stacey finds herself drawn back to the Queen Vic roof, where her beloved husband Bradley died in 2010.
With Stacey's worried partner Martin Fowler in hot pursuit as she heads for the top, it seems that her issues will come to light. But can her loved ones pull together to offer the support she clearly needs?
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Stacey, Kush, Shabna and Martin in new EastEnders Christmas picture
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EastEnders boss Dominic Treadwell-Collins recently explained: "Stacey's mental health story will be one of our biggest storylines over Christmas and the beginning of 2016 as we explore Stacey's bipolar disorder and its effects on her and those closest to her.
"We have always had a big commitment to Stacey's story and this time we want to explore the effects of postpartum psychosis on those with bipolar - something which, although a rare illness, is unfortunately more common when mothers with bipolar give birth - and look at what we are doing as a country to help mothers experiencing this."
I think Stacey's postpartum psychosis storyline could be excellent if researched and written carefully (and not overly sensationalised). Lacey Turner has proved herself capable of a realistic and sympathetic portrayal of mental illness, and the other actors involved are all good too.