X Factor 2007 - General Discussion

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Originally Posted by Christmas Star

if you want to read a funny article about the x factor and how leon managed to win against all odds read this!!!
http://www.hecklerspray.com/leon-jac.../200711455.php

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I heard a comment on the radio this morning about the alleged fix, "do you honestly believe Simon Cowell is really going to let the public decide who is going to get his million pound contract"... Far comment, yes we get to vote people of every week but I think at the end of the day it is Simon's company that decides.
Would Rydian have been successful? I don't think so, he is very selected, like charlotte church (own up how many of us have Cds of charlotte church) and Leon can be trained to do whatever Simon wants him to do!!

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Originally Posted by Elf

Rhydian is going to do better than Leon anyway. This "scandel" is just making it even easier for people to dislike Leon.

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Really? all this "scandal" as you call it, is actually making me dislike rhydian even more than i already do. He would never have made it in the popworld his voice just isnt suited. and if rhydian cant stand losing he should never have entered a competition like the X factor. The viewers chose leon. Its about time the rhyd fans dealt with that

Somebody once said "conspiracy theories are for those who can't accept reality." Just because somebody phoned ten times and each time it was engaged does not mean that it was fixed in favour of Leon. Out of the (possibly) millions of people who voted 700 (the number of people who have complained) is a rather insignificant figure. I highly doubt that those 700 people would have made a great deal of difference to the final result.

Rhydian lost out, get over it. There are far more important things going on in the world to be complaining to OFCOM about a phone vote just because a some people couldn't get through.

thank you, well said, this whole its a fix, rhydian was stitched up is really doing my head in

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

Somebody once said "conspiracy theories are for those who can't accept reality." Just because somebody phoned ten times and each time it was engaged does not mean that it was fixed in favour of Leon. Out of the (possibly) millions of people who voted 700 (the number of people who have complained) is a rather insignificant figure. I highly doubt that those 700 people would have made a great deal of difference to the final result.

Rhydian lost out, get over it. There are far more important things going on in the world to be complaining to OFCOM about a phone vote just because a some people couldn't get through.

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But the point is, 1,500 people actually bothered to phone in and complain. Those are the people who perhaps would have phoned 4 or 5 times. Thats 7,500 votes, at least. And those are just the die hard fans. Say a few thosand couldn't get through, but aren't bothered enough to ring up- It would add up very easily. For all we know, 1 million people could have got engaged tones, they just wont all ring in, will they? So it may only be the 1,500 that complained, but a doubt it very much.

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Originally Posted by Elf

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

Somebody once said "conspiracy theories are for those who can't accept reality." Just because somebody phoned ten times and each time it was engaged does not mean that it was fixed in favour of Leon. Out of the (possibly) millions of people who voted 700 (the number of people who have complained) is a rather insignificant figure. I highly doubt that those 700 people would have made a great deal of difference to the final result.

Rhydian lost out, get over it. There are far more important things going on in the world to be complaining to OFCOM about a phone vote just because a some people couldn't get through.

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But the point is, 1,500 people actually bothered to phone in and complain. Those are the people who perhaps would have phoned 4 or 5 times. Thats 7,500 votes, at least. And those are just the die hard fans. Say a few thosand couldn't get through, but aren't bothered enough to ring up- It would add up very easily. For all we know, 1 million people could have got engaged tones, they just wont all ring in, will they? So it may only be the 1,500 that complained, but a doubt it very much.

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ok give this a thought, if thats how many people couldnt get through to vote for rhydian and he came second. imagine how many people got the engaged tone while trying to vote for leon and because he won we arent exactly going to hear anyone complaining that they couldnt get through as they really arent caring now since leon has won.

This is suppposed to be a bit of fun for the viewers on a saturday night, if everyone continues to carry on like this it wont come back

I am sure that a fair number of those who didn't complain when they didn't get through voted for Leon.

As I have said before voters from both camps were dienfranchised - and it happens all the time in TV phone ins.

So what.

Rhidian fans are just sore losers.

Good rhidance!

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Originally Posted by Tinsel Tart

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Originally Posted by Elf

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

Somebody once said "conspiracy theories are for those who can't accept reality." Just because somebody phoned ten times and each time it was engaged does not mean that it was fixed in favour of Leon. Out of the (possibly) millions of people who voted 700 (the number of people who have complained) is a rather insignificant figure. I highly doubt that those 700 people would have made a great deal of difference to the final result.

Rhydian lost out, get over it. There are far more important things going on in the world to be complaining to OFCOM about a phone vote just because a some people couldn't get through.

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But the point is, 1,500 people actually bothered to phone in and complain. Those are the people who perhaps would have phoned 4 or 5 times. Thats 7,500 votes, at least. And those are just the die hard fans. Say a few thosand couldn't get through, but aren't bothered enough to ring up- It would add up very easily. For all we know, 1 million people could have got engaged tones, they just wont all ring in, will they? So it may only be the 1,500 that complained, but a doubt it very much.

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ok give this a thought, if thats how many people couldnt get through to vote for rhydian and he came second. imagine how many people got the engaged tone while trying to vote for leon and because he won we arent exactly going to hear anyone complaining that they couldnt get through as they really arent caring now since leon has won.

This is suppposed to be a bit of fun for the viewers on a saturday night, if everyone continues to carry on like this it wont come back

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Of course they haven't complained. Which is why OFCOM are conducting an investigation into what happened- To see how it affected the voters for all 3 finalists, not just Rhydian. After all, Leon may have won by more, for all we know.

As Trinity said, it probably is sore losers. But if people are having problems phoning in, then OFCOM need to investigate why that was. Because it could happen on other TV shows, for all they know.

what the heck is OFCOM anyway . ive never heard of it

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Originally Posted by Tinsel Tart

what the heck is OFCOM anyway . ive never heard of it

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Office of Communications, it stands for. I think. They regulate communications in the UK, like on TV, Radio, etc etc, and investigate any breaches against the Broadcasting Code.

At the end of the day it's a reality show. I can't understand why everybody is getting into bed over it, Rhydian is probably going to get a recording contract anyway.

Sure I was annoyed Rhyd didn't win.. but this is just pathetic >> Some of the Welsh radio stations are refusing to play Leons song! One of my local ones for start << Now that is too far! That is sore losing!

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

At the end of the day it's a reality show. I can't understand why everybody is getting into bed over it, Rhydian is probably going to get a recording contract anyway.

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Your right - it is only a reality show and I find it incredibly sad that the public are going to the trouble of complaining to Ofcom just because Rhydian didn't win. There are bigger things in the world to worry about. Leon won, Rhydian didn't - get over it. Like you say, Rhydian will get a recording contract anyway, which defeats the whole point of the competition anyway as isn't the winner only allowed the recording contract? (don't get me wrong, I'm glad Rhydian will get a recording contract but surely only the winner deserves it as that's what the competition is all about?).

Rhydian's dad sounds like a sore loser saying he thinks it's a fix.

boy i wish i had most of your lives, if this is seriously the biggest thing all of you guys have to worry about then you seriously have such a cushy life,

leon won, rhd didnt, it wasnt a fix now get over it and start living in the real world with the 3 dimensional people

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Originally Posted by Tinsel Tart

boy i wish i had most of your lives, if this is seriously the biggest thing all of you guys have to worry about then you seriously have such a cushy life

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Who says we're "worrying" about it?

I certainly am not worrying :searchme:. Doesn't sound like anyone is?? Just discussing it on a discussion board.

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

I can't understand why everybody is getting into bed over it,.

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:confused: never heard that phrase before lol

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Originally Posted by Chris-tmas

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

I can't understand why everybody is getting into bed over it,.

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:confused: never heard that phrase before lol

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It must be a Yorkshire thing. We have loads of weird sayings.

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Originally Posted by Tinsel Tart

boy i wish i had most of your lives, if this is seriously the biggest thing all of you guys have to worry about then you seriously have such a cushy life,

leon won, rhd didnt, it wasnt a fix now get over it and start living in the real world with the 3 dimensional people

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Thats a very unnecessary and rude post. What do you expect people on a X factor discussion thread to be discussing.....world peace? You yourself have posted on here, have you not?

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Originally Posted by Tinsel Tart

boy i wish i had most of your lives, if this is seriously the biggest thing all of you guys have to worry about then you seriously have such a cushy life,

leon won, rhd didnt, it wasnt a fix now get over it and start living in the real world with the 3 dimensional people

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not read most of this thread but are you a leon fan by any chance??

dont think anyone is really worried about it, but after watching a show for that long if you cant get through to vote for your fave and youve also heard that hundreds of other people havent wouldnt you be a bit miffed??

Do you know 100% it wasnt a fix?? probably not!

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Originally Posted by Nigel the Christmas Turkey

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Originally Posted by Tinsel Tart

boy i wish i had most of your lives, if this is seriously the biggest thing all of you guys have to worry about then you seriously have such a cushy life,

leon won, rhd didnt, it wasnt a fix now get over it and start living in the real world with the 3 dimensional people

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Thats a very unnecessary and rude post. What do you expect people on a X factor discussion thread to be discussing.....world peace? You yourself have posted on here, have you not?

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:cheer: Well said that man:D :cheer:

fair enough im sorry about my previous comment, but this comment board was getting very repetitive,

rhydian should have won - no leon deserved to win

it was a fix - no it wasnt

and it just didnt seem to be going anywhere just around in circles.

anyway sorry to everyone who found my last post offensive

I couldn't care less who won to be honest, this year hasnt been a patch on last.

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Originally Posted by Tinsel Tart

fair enough im sorry about my previous comment, but this comment board was getting very repetitive,

rhydian should have won - no leon deserved to win

it was a fix - no it wasnt

and it just didnt seem to be going anywhere just around in circles.

anyway sorry to everyone who found my last post offensive

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Fair play to you for apologising....but those are your personal thoughts above ^^^. Not EVERYBODY thinks that, and it is not gospel. So therefore, people are going to have their say (like you have) resulting in a discussion.

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Originally Posted by Chris-tmas

I couldn't care less who won to be honest, this year hasnt been a patch on last.

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I know it really wasnt, this years just seem tiring, as if this show is starting to die out

I think Leon should have won and the votes WERENT fixed :D

X Factor losers Same Difference have landed a record deal - for ONE single.

Brother and sister duo Sean and Sarah Smith have been handed a final chance to prove themselves with Simon Cowell on his Syco label. But Sean, 22, proudly declared: "It's what we were holding out for", adding: "We have to sell loads and hopefully make No 1 before they will sign us for an album."

The pair, third in the ITV show, said judge Cowell is searching for a perfect song to win over their young following.

Since the final Sean and Sarah have begun a whirlwind tour playing at gay clubs, leisure centres and music venues.

Sean said: "Don't worry, we haven't turned into divas yet. I don't ask for rose petals to be strewn over the floor."

The record deal comes as bookies William Hill have began taking bets at 8/1 that they would become Blue Peter hosts to cash in on their appeal to kids. Sean said: "Blue Peter is all about everything we stand for, teaching children the right thing to do and most of all having fun."

The Portsmouth pair vowed to be good role models for youngsters.

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X Factor winner Leon Jackson has been forced to cancel his performance at Edinburgh's Hogmanay celebrations after being struck down with tonsillitis.

The 19-year-old was scheduled to kick off the city's annual Street Party, but has been ordered to rest his voice for the next two weeks.

He said: "I'm just disappointed to be letting people down, but it wouldn't feel nice to get on stage and not be able to deliver."

George Grubb, Edinburgh City Council's Lord Provost, said he was disappointed that Jackson was unable to play, adding: "His presence would have been a great way to open the celebrations, but we are still very excited about the excellent entertainment that we have lined up on all the stages tonight."

At least 50,000 revellers are expected at the event, with forecasts predicting "damp" weather.

Jackson's debut single 'When You Believe' is currently at number one in the UK charts for the second week.

awwww what a shame, mine you im not really bothered

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Originally Posted by Abbie

awwww what a shame, mine you im not really bothered

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LMAO that really made me laugh abbie :D

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Originally Posted by Chris_2k7

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Originally Posted by Abbie

awwww what a shame, mine you im not really bothered

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LMAO that really made me laugh abbie :D

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:o Why?
:) I was only saying, I know its not very nice but it was a shock result this year and I dont really like him, and Im really surprised he was number 1 for 2 weeks. I wonder if he got tonsilitis through making his album, I hope he doesnt release it soon

LOL i dunno just the way you sounded sympathetic then went im not really bothered haha, i agree with you though he's boring as hell. he reminds me of westlife :p *ducks*

Lol, yeah I suppose I did sound like that even though you cant here the time of my voice through what is typed :p
:eek: I like westlife................euh I have to admit they can be boring but still love them

X Factor winner Leon Jackson has decided that he wants to try his luck with Hollyoaks actress Emma Rigby.

The 19-year-old Scot has invited Rigby, who plays Hannah Ashworth, and her soap co-stars to see him perform live when the X Factor tour comes to Manchester later this year.

"He has a serious crush on Emma," one pal told the Daily Star. "He thinks she is absolutely gorgeous and out of all the Hollyoaks girls she is definitely the one that he wants to date. Even though he's really busy he wants to whisk her away."

Leon's debut song 'When You Believe' is currently riding high at the top of the UK singles chart for a third week.

a friend of mine is going to the first round of the x factor 2008 auditions on saturday in manchester. i didnt realise the auditions started so early with auditions before the ones we see on the tv with miles of people queueing.
did anyone else think the auditions we see on the tv were the first ones?

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Originally Posted by pookie1968uk

a friend of mine is going to the first round of the x factor 2008 auditions on saturday in manchester. i didnt realise the auditions started so early with auditions before the ones we see on the tv with miles of people queueing.
did anyone else think the auditions we see on the tv were the first ones?

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I must admit I thought the auditions we see on telly were the first ones, just some editing because they can't possibly show thousands of candidates, obviously. Good luck for your mate on Saturday.

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Originally Posted by pookie1968uk

a friend of mine is going to the first round of the x factor 2008 auditions on saturday in manchester. i didnt realise the auditions started so early with auditions before the ones we see on the tv with miles of people queueing.
did anyone else think the auditions we see on the tv were the first ones?

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no, it's all staged rubbish, you have to go through 3 rounds of auditions before getting to see Simon, Sharon and co.

which is stupid becuase people who cant sing for toffee get to see them, proving it's all fake and staged. some of the people who can actually sing aren't given the chance to sing infront of the proper judges.

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Originally Posted by bondboffin

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Originally Posted by pookie1968uk

a friend of mine is going to the first round of the x factor 2008 auditions on saturday in manchester. i didnt realise the auditions started so early with auditions before the ones we see on the tv with miles of people queueing.
did anyone else think the auditions we see on the tv were the first ones?

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no, it's all staged rubbish, you have to go through 3 rounds of auditions before getting to see Simon, Sharon and co.

which is stupid becuase people who cant sing for toffee get to see them, proving it's all fake and staged. some of the people who can actually sing aren't given the chance to sing infront of the proper judges.

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I suppose they have to show some of the ones that can't sing, it would be boring if they had just the good ones on and if the judges could not have a hissy when they don't agree on keeping the person on for the next round or not. That is what most people want to see, Sharon pouring water over Louis or fighting with Simon.

It's all a total fix and not something i'd bother to go through again, it's not worth the time that you wait around and the effort to get there etc...
It feel's like they've decided before you even sing for them. You stand a better chance if your total rubbish !

well my friend got through his first two rounds anyway, he has to go again a week on wednesday.