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Yes even paint dryingQuote:
Anyway, it would have made much more interesting viewing than Pauline arguing with Sonia. Again. And again. And again. And the Miller's selling their TV...
THe mistake was in bringing him backQuote:
So it might have been a mistake in axing him, but it definitely wasn't a mistake in bringing him back, as it did attract a lot more fans, which is what, now he's gone, although I rush to add, not necessarily because he's gone, Eastenders is in desperate need of it seems.
I think the way they planned Den's return was great, bringing back Dennis first, then having him find out the truth about Den. It was all very well written. And having Dennis and Sharon sleep together on the very night he came back, really powerful stuff! I think it was realistic. Den's character was capable of something like this. And we could see with the world that Den had gotten himself involved with, this could quite easily happen. It was a huge shock when it did occur, but it was great!
However once Den had been brought back and the initial first episodes had aired, things started going downhill. And it seemed that the storylines which Louise Berridge must have tempted Leslie Grantham back with had disappeared into thin air. There were a few feeble attempts at storylines, but nothing captured the character that Den once was. It was just pathetic!
Den should not have been brought back. An EE legend was totally ruined with poorly written scripts. Considering this, EE did a good job of convincing us that this could have happened and this took a lot of doing so it was terrible that he was written out again in such a ridiculous way. He should have just "gone away" so that the possibility of him returning was still there. EE made the whole thing ridiculous and this is why the show has not recovered.
Im sorry I was not convinced as to how he could have been brought back. The reason given was a load of twaddle. DEN was identified as being the body recovered from the canal and as such was buriedQuote:
Originally Posted by lilnick
It's only soap so bringing him back for me was a great idea,loved his return,great episodes,his 1 liners were fantastic,then they decided to give him rubbish scripts,but then came the 2 hander with dot and den getting the vic back and ee was unwatchable again,then came the new prpducer kh who totaly destroyed his charector,a lot of credit should go to LG because he made those scenes seem credible when the idea that den would sink that low is not beleivable,his final episode fantastic,his lines were fantastic,but Ee have lost a fantastic actor with a big following and instead of killing him they should have let us see him escaping and then wether he returned in the future or not,everytime in the future that anyone does anything bad to his kids we'd look at the vic door to see if he's back to sort it,or just brought him back every christmas to see the kids cause havoc sort out his kids and then get on a plane untill next year,what a waste of a great actor.
While I can agree with you about how well he did when he came back, the fact that I felt the excuses given were an insult to my intelligence put a bit of a dampner on his return. Had they have said he was away under some sort of witness protection scheme then that could have explained why all the evidence (dna, forensic and pathological) was concocted.
they couldn't do that cos dens never been a grass,thats why 1 of the future storylines didn't ring true,he would have lost his street cred,remember dens body was headless so there was no dental records it had also been in the canal for a year,and there was no dna then,EE did a good job and once he was back it was as if he had never been away and once he was back in the vic and the new team went in just think of den v grant, den v plill, den v peggy and how he would have eventually except shannis and let it run it's course or lose his kids
DNA was in widespread use during the 1980sQuote:
Originally Posted by callummc
Before the funeral took place they would have had to have had some form of POSITIVE identification otherwise the body could have been anyones
does it matter in this country dna was not widespread,it's only soap anyway and it's a well know saying in soap that your only dead if your bodys seen and buried and like i said beforeonce he was back it's like he'd never been away some peole liked him some didn't ,thats life,personally i can't stand alfie,nanna,chrissy,johnny,but a lot of people like them,thats why every charector is different so the audience can choose,but still watch the soap fpr the charectors they like,but for me Ee died with den