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Ian and the twins will probably forgive him because of obvious emotional ties.
Jane however is different - after what she has gone through recently and with what is still to come I would be surprised if she could ever really forgive him. I certainly couldn't and wouldn't.
But this is a Soap and I expect the Beales, including Steven will all be having a happy Christmas dinner together in a couple of months and none of this will even be mentioned.
I suppose the gun did go off accidentally when Lucy, Ian and Jane were trying to stop Steven committing sucide. I agree that Jane would find it very difficult. She may be civil to him though for the sake of Ian and the twins. Pat might forgive him because she knows himbetter than anyone - even Ian. Lucy is quite close to him. Ian? - maybe he will come round, eventually. This was such a terrible tragedy though. If only he had not taken Lucy to that flat but handed both the gun and himself in, then maybe Ian would have dropped the charges given that Steven made the effort to hand himself in but on th other hand they wouldn't have reached that understanding. I am now guessing Steven was in this on his own though t one point a lot of people suspected Gina was in on it too though I never believed that.
I respect that you have a lot of empathy for Steven, he really is a tortured soul. I never watched EE when Cindy was alive, but listening to Steven last night, it sounds like Steven thought his mother could do no wrong. He even had a bit of a moment with Dot when she didn't say how wonderful Cindy was to Steven.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
Steven was never 'right' though. I started watching EE about the time Janine was getting all those poison pen letters that came from Steven.
Personally I expected the episode to be a lot better.
Same...I think EE could've done better. Still looking forward to Monday's episode though! :D
Thanks for saying that - about the empathy I mean. It's true. I do have a lot of empathy for him and in some ways though I certainly haven't gone through what he has, I can understand how he's thinking and feeling and everything. What he did was definitely wrong but like you said he was never "right". He is very intense about things. He has idolised his dead mum and when he discovered going to New Zealand was a mistake because Simon did not want him he really needed to find someone to blame because he couldn't accept he was wrong and the ideal person was Ian.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuzanneI respect that you have a lot of empathy for Steven, he really is a tortured soul. I never watched EE when Cindy was alive, but listening to Steven last night, it sounds like Steven thought his mother could do no wrong. He even had a bit of a moment with Dot when she didn't say how wonderful Cindy was to Steven.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lizzie Brookes
Steven was never 'right' though. I started watching EE about the time Janine was getting all those poison pen letters that came from Steven.
Like the actor said he convinced himself that it was Ian's fault his mum died in prison and he clung to this notion until it became a fixed delusion because it enabled him to blame the man whom he felt had betrayed him by lying to him about his parentage for 13 years. Yes I saw that - I was quite shocked when the culprit of the poison pen letters turned out to be Steven. Yes he has put Cindy on a pedestal - saying how beautiful she was and everything and the twins were a bit scared by his obsession with their dead mum. I have compassion with him despite being angry about his treatment of Ian. Ian as beginning to understand i think but then Lucy sneaked out and ruined everything by bringing along Jane who is unsurprisingly angry and upset and makes the situation worse.
I found friday was a very dark episode.... loved that Ian picked Jane out of all his ex wifes. Stephen really does need to move on, Ian was right. his move to NZ didn't turn out for stephen so he blames is all on Ian.. Jane should have kept her mouth shut but what a great right hook she gave him
I thought it was really good the writing was better than usual as well as it was really gripping listening to Ian and Stephen in the room. All you needed was the dialogue there was no action. I can't wait till Monday.
Considering it was written by one of EE worse writers, it was good. Long dialogue episodes are always harder to watch if the dialogue isn't sharp and snappy but I think the fact it was about such long standing characters such as Ian, Cindy and Steven helped make it interesting.
I'm not sure there is anyway back for Steven but the fact he isn't being made out to be evil, just messed up, gives hope that they can. Ian and Lucy obviously care about him, as does Pat.
Tonight's episode was fantastic and Aaron was brilliant, even topped Friday night. Yes I believe Steven - it was definitely an accident. He was in complete shock and totally devastated when he injured Jane. I thought Lucy would be quite severe when reminding him that his actions affected all around him not just Ian but she wasn't she was quite calm, well not calm but she didn't seem angry - just hurt, betrayed and bewildered. I can't blame ian for hating Steven at the moment. The gun firing mayhave been an accident but his behaviour was totally despicable. Locking Ian up and allowing his family to believe he was dead, consoling Jane when he was the cause of their misery, manipulating the photos - even Lucy said so and she couldn't believe it.
The only reason I am sorry for him is because he is ill and even Ian realised it in the end. He still has compassion for Steven - he was shaking and saying things about being unable to eat or sleep - I wonder what he meant by that. Yet if his life in New Zealand - and he himself chose to go - was so bad why did he not ring Ian and ask to come home? Ian would have welcomed him with open arms, the twins would have been delighted and Jane glad to meet him. In general I disapprove of lying to the police naturally but under these circumstances however angry Ian was with her for it, she did right I think. Prison won't benefit Steven - he needs hekp and it's good to see that Ian's affection for Lucy prompted him to go and see his stepson.
I really hope that when Steven is better they can sort this mess out though Steven is going to have to worlk very hard after what he has done to show his repentance etc. I'm glad Jane realised that she shouldn't have hit him and that he needs help. She saw now that Ian had him calm and what she did made him unstable again.