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16-04-2006, 11:35
Babe14

I think that it will be a long time before Jake is back to normal, but you could see the othr night that he was trying to do every day things, going to the Caf and helping out in a crisis, re: Ben.

Although I love Jake and Pat working at the Bookies together, I think if I'm totally honest I'd prefer to see him running Scarlets. The reason being that I feel here there is more potential for more dramatic and action packed storylines whereas the Bookies there is only really potential for the more gentler storylines. With hopefully both Jake and Grant running Scarlets together there will be plenty of wheeling and dealing going on. Again, like with Jake's House,:p Grant can bring a bit of the Brazilian touch to Scarlets. I would like one day, when the real "ownership" of Scarlets is sorted out for it to be renamed and I'd quite like it to be called "Moons"

Of course Phil will also have to be involved,mainly so he can take over when Ross disappears again:crying:
With regards to the bouncer positon I think that this would be more Grant's role, there again after what we've seen of Jake this week I dunno!!:p :lol:
16-04-2006, 11:44
Babe14

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Originally Posted by diamond1

i think over 3 days we typed loads of just anything out -mainly about jakes house,sonia and jake and the mitchells.
its really bizzare how much i wrote about sonia!

See you love her really:p :p

I can't believe that I am loving the Mitchells all over again just like I used to before they became "thugs". I'm loving the new Mitchells, espec Grant who I hated before and I'm starting to love Phil again and even Peggy, she works with the boys. This is a case of "Pot" "Black" as when I heard they were returning I think I called them "Thugs" and "Old Hasbeins":lol: Eastenders have been very clever by putting the Mitchells and Jake together as this really works, plus of course Courtney and Ben. See I can't shut up about them:rotfl:
16-04-2006, 12:57
diamond1

you cant take back what you said about the mitchells now :p

and the loving sonia part we been at it for years did you think she became a lesbian overnight?? :rotfl:
16-04-2006, 14:21
BlackKat

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Originally Posted by Babe14

I think that it will be a long time before Jake is back to normal, but you could see the othr night that he was trying to do every day things, going to the Caf and helping out in a crisis, re: Ben.

I agree -- I think this was what Thursday was about, not Jake getting back to normal and being all happy again, but him choosing to carry on with things and try to get back to normal -- going out the house, cleaning up his house and (like Grant said) buying teabags. I think this is what Jake has to do - rather than expecting to get over it within one week, just get up in the morning, go to work, go the Vic etc even if some mornings he has to force himself to do it and then somewhere along the line he will be back to normal.

I also agree that it seems to be more Phil and Jake bonding then Grant and Jake -- although on Thursday, while Phil and Jake had the more indepth 'emotional' conversation (which I liked) in the end it was Grant who knew what Jake needed, despite it being a somewhat...unconventional method.

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Although I love Jake and Pat working at the Bookies together, I think if I'm totally honest I'd prefer to see him running Scarlets. The reason being that I feel here there is more potential for more dramatic and action packed storylines whereas the Bookies there is only really potential for the more gentler storylines.

Again, agree. With Jake in Scarlets there's more chance of us seeing him -- even if he doesn't have a big storyline there'll be scenes with Grant, Ruby etc. Whereas the bookies doesn't seem to feature much. But I love the interaction in the bookies, we've had some lovely scenes there recently especially Tuesday with Pat, Jake and the two boys. I hope the Pat and Jake friendship doesn't get forgotten if Jake does stop working there to look after Scarlets fulltime.
17-04-2006, 10:45
Babe14

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I agree -- I think this was what Thursday was about, not Jake getting back to normal and being all happy again, but him choosing to carry on with things and try to get back to normal -- going out the house, cleaning up his house and (like Grant said) buying teabags. I think this is what Jake has to do - rather than expecting to get over it within one week, just get up in the morning, go to work, go the Vic etc even if some mornings he has to force himself to do it and then somewhere along the line he will be back to normal.

You've summed that up nicely:)

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I also agree that it seems to be more Phil and Jake bonding then Grant and Jake -- although on Thursday, while Phil and Jake had the more indepth 'emotional' conversation (which I liked) in the end it was Grant who knew what Jake needed, despite it being a somewhat...unconventional method.

After watching the full Eastenders on Sunday I definitely felt that it was Jake and Phil who bonded the most in the end, I suppose this has been done because as far as we know Phil is sticking around, plus I think Phil understands, can relate more to what Jake is going through. At the same time I do think it may be a slight attack of the guilts all mixed in because of the feuding with Johnny, but Phil is being genuine with Jake he now considers him a mate and whatever happened before is forgotten. Also I love the way Phil keeps asking Jake if he's alright.

Grant like you said is the other side of the coin he knows what Jake needs. I'm sure that both the brothers and Jake will be close. Although Grant and Jake didn't acknowldge one another the other night.

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But I love the interaction in the bookies, we've had some lovely scenes there recently especially Tuesday with Pat, Jake and the two boys. I hope the Pat and Jake friendship doesn't get forgotten if Jake does stop working there to look after Scarlets fulltime.

So do I and this is where it all started with Jake/Danny/Andy/Pat and Johnny. I like seeing the bookies, espec the kind of scenes we have had lately there but unfortunately Jake doesn't do a lot in there except take bets and clean up. The bookies isn't really a place to develop any really gritty storylines more light hearted and commical ones and I suppose this is the reason why it's not featured much. Although having said that we did have dramatic storylines during the Andy and gangster era.
I'm sure that the Jake/Pat interaction will continue and hopefully grow, also I'm hoping that one day Jake will tell Pat what is wrong, I'm certain she will understand. I'm hoping that Jake will be interacting with the other Wicks too, Carly and Kevin.

I sort of like Dawn again and I think your right it is to do with the scripts that she is getting that I'm in two minds about her. I think that Dawn would be good for Jake, she would provide a bit of fun for him which is what he needs right now. I don't want Jake/Dawn to be a permanent thing just a bit of fun and a no ties sort of relationship, a casual one which will suit both of them. I thought about Jake/Carly too, although I like her I think she is too "quiet" for Jake.
17-04-2006, 10:49
Babe14

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Originally Posted by diamond1

you cant take back what you said about the mitchells now :p

and the loving sonia part we been at it for years did you think she became a lesbian overnight?? :rotfl:

Oh yes I can, I've cancelled it all out:rotfl:

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17-04-2006, 13:29
diamond1

i really think jake is in the stage where is character is being devolped into whatever they want it to be so i reckon they should make jake a hero as his way of redemption i really think that to do this eastenders need to have another huge disaster but this time big budget kick ass explosions, deaths and injuries not a fairground slide falling down i dont know what they can do and whatever it is let jake save a child like courtney,ben,aleesha,freddie or keith miller
17-04-2006, 16:17
BlackKat

I think Grant is made the manager of Scarlet's -- apparently the office is referred to as "Grant's office." Honestly, it wouldn't put it past EE to make Grant the manager and Jake to have nothing to do with the club once he's offered Grant the job, and then for Jake to disappear once again. :thumbsdow Still...positive thoughts I guess. Reports do conflict, like I said, the Radio Times mention Ruby being the new owner, yet apparently it's Grant hosting the launch party so what's she worried about? We'll have to wait and see I guess.

I've done screencaps of last weeks episodes, I just need to get them all uploaded, which could take a while. There's about 150 of Thursday's episode alone. I did go slightly overboard. :lol:
17-04-2006, 21:39
littlemo

I heard that Jake was power of attorney, and he makes Grant manager. And Ruby will get everything when she's 18. It's put in trust for her.
18-04-2006, 08:35
Babe14

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I think Grant is made the manager of Scarlet's -- apparently the office is referred to as "Grant's office." Honestly, it wouldn't put it past EE to make Grant the manager and Jake to have nothing to do with the club once he's offered Grant the job, and then for Jake to disappear once again. Still...positive thoughts I guess. Reports do conflict, like I said, the Radio Times mention Ruby being the new owner, yet apparently it's Grant hosting the launch party so what's she worried about? We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Jake is definitely in Easties next Thursday and Friday, then there is no mention of him in the spoilers for the following week but I think Scarlets is mentioned,so maybe we will see Jake. I think maybe we are going to get a whole batch of exit storylines dominating Easties again, i.e Sonia/Martin (that will please diamond1:lol: ), Lil Mo etc.

Speaking of which, I agree Jake needs a storyline which is very dramatic but he ends up being a hero. In away he is kind of a hero now, he saved Grant's life. (Um..I feel a theory coming on:lol: :p )

I can understand if Jake wants nothing to do with Scarlets. Maybe he will continue to work at the Bookies but at the same time be involved with Scarlets (and another:p :lol: ) therefore he could still do a bit of wheeling and dealing with Grant and be smack bang in the middle of all the drama (which he seems to be now anyway).

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I've done screencaps of last weeks episodes, I just need to get them all uploaded, which could take a while. There's about 150 of Thursday's episode alone. I did go slightly overboard.

:rotfl: Your as bad as me! Only with me at the mo it is Analysing and Theories.:lol:

Speaking of which - this is like a brand new start for Jake with all the Danny and Johnny stuff out of the way,a chance for Jake to have a new life one which won't be screwed up all the time. "Turns over a new leaf" could be referring to Jake and Ruby starting new lives but separately. You know sortingout their differences but going their separate ways...

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