Jake Heaven

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Originally Posted by Babe14

:rotfl: but Jake would be polite about it and tell her that he likes it and then I can just see Grant's reaction when he sees it and the two of them trying to get rid of it "on the quiet"

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Trying to smuggle it back out the house under a blanket...Pat walks past "What's that?" "Er...nothing," *standing in front of it, trying to block her view* :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I think Jake has definitely been scarred, and is just better at hiding it than Danny was. Although it did sound like Danny had problems from the start that were just made worse because of their childhood. (And it's times like this I get furious at the rest of the Moon family because even though it's not their responsibility where the hell were they when it was going on.) I also think their father was possibly psychologically abusive as well -- Danny mentioned at the salsa night their dad saying "Fear makes you weak," and beating them for wetting the bed. To me that sounds like he wasn't just getting drunk and lashing out, but that he was "teaching" them.

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Yes just where were they. Surely Alfie would of notcied soemthing what with him being round there all the time, unless of course he did and Jake convinced him that all was well.

I think maybe he taunted Jake as well with remarks about failing and just generally made themboth feel very insecure. Maybe the dad had a reason for beating them and made Jake take most of them because of "Theory":p

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Trying to smuggle it back out the house under a blanket...Pat walks past "What's that?" "Er...nothing," *standing in front of it, trying to block her view* :lol: :lol:

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:rotfl: and dumping it in the same skip which Grant dumped Jake's bin bag:lol:
(That reminds me loved the bit when Jake handed Grant the bag and went "I'd burn that if I was you":lol: ) or Grant giving it to Peggy as a pressie.

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Originally Posted by Babe14

Yes just where were they. Surely Alfie would of notcied soemthing what with him being round there all the time, unless of course he did and Jake convinced him that all was well.

I think maybe he taunted Jake as well with remarks about failing and just generally made themboth feel very insecure. Maybe the dad had a reason for beating them and made Jake take most of them because of "Theory":p

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But the scene from last year with Alfie and Jake talking about it in the Vic, Alfie said he used to see their dad coming home drunk. And Danny mentioned them getting food off Alfie's mum when their dad left them on their own. So they must have known some of it. And they must have known about the times that Jake and Danny were taken into foster care.

I also wonder if their dad was like that from the start, or became like that. I don't know which would be worse -- on the one hand, if he was okay in the beginning Jake probably has some happy memories which may explain why he's more well adjusted that Danny, whereas abuse would likely be all Danny would know. On the other, having your "daddy," turn into a monster must be damaging as well. I guess they're both as bad as the other. :searchme: :(

Well jake is in a intresting postion for future storyline ifs eastenders wanted to e.g

jake would be living in his reonvated house and actually is going out with dawn or perhaps carly and is now like a delivery driver for scarletts with grant running the bar phil running the vic all three would be mates of course.Jake traces down his alcoholic mum and brings her to walford she feuds with peggy almost straight away and causes trouble sadly jake tearfully admits he killed danny and she disowns him and he suffers another set back and things get worse when martin fowler cheats with carly/dawn after getting in a fight with martin and settling up he gets imprisoned for abit until phil and grant convince martin to drop the charges after a month of freedom a letter comes through he is needed for prosecution for chrissies up coming trial filled with hope he goes to see her and stands up for her in a shock movement she is freed from prison BUT heads straight for the airport leaving jake once again alone and heartbroken.

i know im being a bit harsh on jakes life here but its not jakes character to be happy all the time being a loner does suit him abit

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I hope Jake explains what actually happened to Ruby. I can understand her behaviour if she thinks Jake shot Danny on purpose or without a reason, but hopefully once she knows what actually happened she'll be nicer. I'm not keen on her either (well to be honest I hate her guts). When she first came in I thought she was great, but since October she's been terrible, a completely horrible person, and I also have a big problem with Louisa's acting -- I don't think she brings any depth to Ruby which makes it difficult to find the character likable. However, Louisa wasn't bad on Tuesday's ep and like I said, I could understand Ruby's behaviour for once (even if she was a little cow). So maybe she'll improve. :searchme: If we are going to have Jake as Ruby's guardian, she better improve.

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I think Jake is going to have to tell her what really happened and hopefully she will listen and understand. This will have to be two way traffic though and Jake will have to listen to Ruby and understand why she is being a cow. She has to realise Jake is not Johnny. Yes I hope that she will improve too, like I said it's that Kitchen scene.

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Originally Posted by diamond1

Well jake is in a intresting postion for future storyline ifs eastenders wanted to e.g

jake would be living in his reonvated house and actually is going out with dawn or perhaps carly and is now like a delivery driver for scarletts with grant running the bar phil running the vic all three would be mates of course.Jake traces down his alcoholic mum and brings her to walford she feuds with peggy almost straight away and causes trouble sadly jake tearfully admits he killed danny and she disowns him and he suffers another set back and things get worse when martin fowler cheats with carly/dawn after getting in a fight with martin and settling up he gets imprisoned for abit until phil and grant convince martin to drop the charges after a month of freedom a letter comes through he is needed for prosecution for chrissies up coming trial filled with hope he goes to see her and stands up for her in a shock movement she is freed from prison BUT heads straight for the airport leaving jake once again alone and heartbroken.

i know im being a bit harsh on jakes life here but its not jakes character to be happy all the time being a loner does suit him abit

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It's a good storyline, but I think it's time for some happiness for Jake a big storyline that starts off very dramatic but has a very happy outcome for him.

As for Jake's potential before the Mitchells returned there was huge potential for Jake alone but now with the character being put with the Mitchells, a very clever move on behalf of Eastenders, there is endless potential and just strengthens the character and puts him in a very central positon.

I'm sorry but I no longer like Dawn, yes maybe a quick one or maybe couple of nights here with her but Carly is much better. Personally though I think that Carly will be paired with Martin. I am hoping that one of the new characters will provide Jake with a love interest,but I don't think I need to say it I have my own ideas for a new permanent love for Jake.

I think Jake's got a lot of potential for future storylines -- there's so much they can do. There's his family, his mysterious mother most of all (I know I mention her a lot...but where the hell was she?). Unfortunately Bradley's possible abusive father is coming in soon, so I doubt they'll bring Jake's in, at least not for a while. I only hope he doesn't disappear again. After Joel showing this week exactly what he can do with great material, they'd be idiots to let it go to waste.

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Originally Posted by Babe14

I'm sorry but I no longer like Dawn, yes maybe a quick one or maybe couple of nights here with her but Carly is much better. Personally though I think that Carly will be paired with Martin. I am hoping that one of the new characters will provide Jake with a love interest,but I don't think I need to say it I have my own ideas for a new permanent love for Jake.

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I think for a permanent love interest my ideal girl would be someone who will say to Jake "Back the hell off, I can look after myself thanks." (but in a nice way), yet understands why he needs to do things like take care of people.

I do still like Dawn, and I think with her it's her storylines that annoy me rather than the character. On the other hand Deano just annoys me now fullstop. I'm not that much of a fan of Carly, though she has grown on me since she first arrived and I hated her.

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I think Jake's got a lot of potential for future storylines -- there's so much they can do. There's his family, his mysterious mother most of all (I know I mention her a lot...but where the hell was she?). Unfortunately Bradley's possible abusive father is coming in soon, so I doubt they'll bring Jake's in, at least not for a while. I only hope he doesn't disappear again. After Joel showing this week exactly what he can do with great material, they'd be idiots to let it go to waste.

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As another dad is coming into the soap then I think it's a mother's turn, preferably Jake's.

As for Jake's potental for storylines all they need to do is look at this thread..

Joel as really excelled (think that is the right word) himself these past couple of weeks, espec Tuesday, he is just wonderful and yes they would be idiots to waste him. Joel plus Ross/Steve equals great strength and they are more or less the heart of Easties right now. Like I said a very clever move by Eastenders.