Coronation Street - Current Episode Discussion - V

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I have always thought of Alina as being in her teens about the same age as Seb who is 19, altho the actress is 25. Adam Barlow is I believe 32 being born on May 1988.

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You are right, I read wrong details .. going to put glasses on next time ..:lol:

the fact carla had to point out to alina that adam is her boss's husband while separated is off limits did she learn nothing from trafficking of mixing with wrong uns

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Originally Posted by lizann

the fact carla had to point out to alina that adam is her boss's husband while separated is off limits did she learn nothing from trafficking of mixing with wrong uns

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Soap characters have very short memories.

The Bishop must have been really desperate to give the job to Silly Billy.

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

The Bishop must have been really desperate to give the job to Silly Billy.

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Ha ha, I'd expect to see a comment like that from Dennis Healey, not Dennis Tanner.

I know Leanne is suffering, but I'm really waiting at one point for Dr Howarth to finally lose her rag and say something.

It seems Leanne cannot talk to anyone without being aggressive or generally nasty.

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Originally Posted by Jadefalcon

I know Leanne is suffering, but I'm really waiting at one point for Dr Howarth to finally lose her rag and say something.

It seems Leanne cannot talk to anyone without being aggressive or generally nasty.

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I don't know why Ms Battersby spent so much money on that Barrister.

Steve had to make a special effort to get a tie and then couldn't be bothered to wear it properly

Very difficult to feel for her when she is so horrible. I have never liked her character anyway.

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Originally Posted by swmc66

Very difficult to feel for her when she is so horrible. I have never liked her character anyway.

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i like leanne, jane is a good actress, she wants her son to live, she cant accept he is only alive with the machine

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Originally Posted by swmc66

Very difficult to feel for her when she is so horrible. I have never liked her character anyway.

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I loathed her father even more

I can't help feeling that the producer and scriptwriters have done the Oliver storyline a great disservice by the way they have portrayed Leanne. The main emphasis has shifted from Oliver and the heartbreak for the parents to Leanne's unreasonable behaviour. The situation was retrieved somewhat by Steve's reaction to the court finding, but still it was spoilt by Leanne and diverted the attention away from any empathic feeling we might have to both parents in a situation like this, to being about Leanne and her unpleasant and aggressive behaviour, so that it is hard to feel any empathy or sympathy for her.

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Originally Posted by parkerman

I can't help feeling that the producer and scriptwriters have done the Oliver storyline a great disservice by the way they have portrayed Leanne. The main emphasis has shifted from Oliver and the heartbreak for the parents to Leanne's unreasonable behaviour. The situation was retrieved somewhat by Steve's reaction to the court finding, but still it was spoilt by Leanne and diverted the attention away from any empathic feeling we might have to both parents in a situation like this, to being about Leanne and her unpleasant and aggressive behaviour, so that it is hard to feel any empathy or sympathy for her.

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I think the producer and scriptwriters have done the storyline well, at least so far. I do feel empathy for both parents, and don't think Leanne's behaviour is unpleasant at all. She's just like a Mother Lion really! Quite understandable really.

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Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur

I think the producer and scriptwriters have done the storyline well, at least so far. I do feel empathy for both parents, and don't think Leanne's behaviour is unpleasant at all. She's just like a Mother Lion really! Quite understandable really.

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Regardless of any empathy I might feel, she is very unpleasant to anyone who says or does the slightest thing she disagrees with. She has no empathy for anyone else.

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

Regardless of any empathy I might feel, she is very unpleasant to anyone who says or does the slightest thing she disagrees with. She has no empathy for anyone else.

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She is desperate and must feel very much alone which means she is lashing out ... I think Steve did the right thing when he suggested she is doing all this for herself rather than Oliver ... but I can understand that a parent easily can lose sense of reality when faced with this kind of situation ... I cannot help feeling that if either Nick or Steve had been honest much earlier about how they feel about the life support for Oliver Leanne might not have gotten so bitter and twisted ... however, I suppose it would have been less dramatic and a lot less comments on this particular bit of the story

I do also wonder that with her saying that Nick and probably now Steve should be no part of this, will she still be expecting them to sell their businesses, like Steve with the cab firm, Nick with his business etc.

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Originally Posted by Jadefalcon

I do also wonder that with her saying that Nick and probably now Steve should be no part of this, will she still be expecting them to sell their businesses, like Steve with the cab firm, Nick with his business etc.

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Not needed now as that money was for Oliver's treatment in Germany ...

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Originally Posted by parkerman

I can't help feeling that the producer and scriptwriters have done the Oliver storyline a great disservice by the way they have portrayed Leanne. The main emphasis has shifted from Oliver and the heartbreak for the parents to Leanne's unreasonable behaviour. The situation was retrieved somewhat by Steve's reaction to the court finding, but still it was spoilt by Leanne and diverted the attention away from any empathic feeling we might have to both parents in a situation like this, to being about Leanne and her unpleasant and aggressive behaviour, so that it is hard to feel any empathy or sympathy for her.

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I think this story has been well told. Leanne's aggressiveness and unpleasant behavior are in character for her, she has always been like this even tho' it has done her no favours in the Oliver story. Leanne has always been hot headed and aggressive and does not listen the other person's point of view before jumping in with both feet. She has taken things too far in this case by accusing Dr Howarth and others of wanting to "murder" her son no doctor would do this. Leanne simply cannot accept the reality of the situation, even if the courts agreed to keep Oliver on life support there is currently no cure or treatment for him, even if there was in the future, he is is having continual brain damage and so it would be too late for him. I think that Leanne feels that as long as Oliver is kept on life support he is still with her even if he is unresponsive and she clings to the hope that he one day he will come back to her. The thought of turning off the machine is unbearable to her, as then she will have to accept he is gone foreveer and she is simply not ready for this. When this happens she will have nothing to fight for, and this is what has kept her going. Unfortunately she has driven everyone away from her, and one can only hope, her family will have the patience to be there waiting for her to come to terms with the situation.
While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision. So I can understand Leanne and do not know how I would have reacted in her situation.

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision.

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I still feel the guilt of having to do that twice in recent years.

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Originally Posted by Snagglepus

I still feel the guilt of having to do that twice in recent years.

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When our other cat died we never got another as I could not face having to go through that again.

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I think this story has been well told. Leanne's aggressiveness and unpleasant behavior are in character for her, she has always been like this even tho' it has done her no favours in the Oliver story. Leanne has always been hot headed and aggressive and does not listen the other person's point of view before jumping in with both feet. She has taken things too far in this case by accusing Dr Howarth and others of wanting to "murder" her son no doctor would do this. Leanne simply cannot accept the reality of the situation, even if the courts agreed to keep Oliver on life support there is currently no cure or treatment for him, even if there was in the future, he is is having continual brain damage and so it would be too late for him. I think that Leanne feels that as long as Oliver is kept on life support he is still with her even if he is unresponsive and she clings to the hope that he one day he will come back to her. The thought of turning off the machine is unbearable to her, as then she will have to accept he is gone foreveer and she is simply not ready for this. When this happens she will have nothing to fight for, and this is what has kept her going. Unfortunately she has driven everyone away from her, and one can only hope, her family will have the patience to be there waiting for her to come to terms with the situation.
While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision. So I can understand Leanne and do not know how I would have reacted in her situation.

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I think her family and friends would still be there for her. I really don't know how she would cope though. Jane Danson plays this as if it is real.

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

When our other cat died we never got another as I could face having to go through that again.

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Very understandable but I hope that one day you can give an abandoned pet a home ... they will not replace what you had, of course but will give you all the love and gratitude they have xxx

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Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur

I think her family and friends would still be there for her. I really don't know how she would cope though. Jane Danson plays this as if it is real.

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Leanne will have to let them in, at present she still sees everyone as being against her and conspiring against her and Oliver. Hopefully they will still be there for her when she is ready to accept help.

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Originally Posted by Perdita

Not needed now as that money was for Oliver's treatment in Germany ...

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At first it was yes, but later it was for any legal fees and additional fees needed after the German Doctor would not go any further.

Also, when Steve was talking on his own to a comatose Oliver about how bad things were, am I the only one that wondered if he was going to switch the machines off?

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Originally Posted by Jadefalcon

At first it was yes, but later it was for any legal fees and additional fees needed after the German Doctor would not go any further.

Also, when Steve was talking on his own to a comatose Oliver about how bad things were, am I the only one that wondered if he was going to switch the machines off?

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Yes, I wondered that too, now I thinking that maybe it will be Leanne who will do it.

Surprisingly moving episode. Simon Gregson was superb (I never thought i would say that) Well done to all concerned.

fairly obvious no child in the bed while steve and leanne arguing

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Originally Posted by lizann

fairly obvious no child in the bed while steve and leanne arguing

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Probably on purpose so not to scare the 3 year old child who plays Oliver ... not sure why they did not use a doll though ...

Steve does a good impression of Beaker (muppet) with that mouth.

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

I think this story has been well told. Leanne's aggressiveness and unpleasant behavior are in character for her, she has always been like this even tho' it has done her no favours in the Oliver story. Leanne has always been hot headed and aggressive and does not listen the other person's point of view before jumping in with both feet. She has taken things too far in this case by accusing Dr Howarth and others of wanting to "murder" her son no doctor would do this. Leanne simply cannot accept the reality of the situation, even if the courts agreed to keep Oliver on life support there is currently no cure or treatment for him, even if there was in the future, he is is having continual brain damage and so it would be too late for him. I think that Leanne feels that as long as Oliver is kept on life support he is still with her even if he is unresponsive and she clings to the hope that he one day he will come back to her. The thought of turning off the machine is unbearable to her, as then she will have to accept he is gone foreveer and she is simply not ready for this. When this happens she will have nothing to fight for, and this is what has kept her going. Unfortunately she has driven everyone away from her, and one can only hope, her family will have the patience to be there waiting for her to come to terms with the situation.
While not on the same scale I was in tears and found it extremely difficult to agree to the vet putting my cat down, I had hoped that he would simply die in his sleep and alleviate me from having to make that decision. So I can understand Leanne and do not know how I would have reacted in her situation.

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Leanne has to tell herself that the decision is out of her hands, especially after the court decision.

On two occasions we have had to agree with the Vets killing our dogs. They ask for our consent but the reality is that we could not say otherwise when our pets are suffering and cannot be cured.

What annoys me about this storyline is the social distancing aspect. I know it's out of the producer's hands but it means no one can comfort each other during this awful time. The example that stands out for me was in the courtroom last week when everyone was sitting apart and none of the characters were able to comfort Leanne as the judge gave her verdict.
I agree that she wants to fight for her child and can't accept that he has no quality of life, but I don't like how vile she's being to everyone.

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

When our other cat died we never got another as I could not face having to go through that again.

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Losing a pet is so hard, after all. they are your family. I do feel it is still better to have them though, especially when rescued from a bad situation. Lost a Cat this year and it was SO difficult...The others help though.

would craig not ask the council about building works not gary? who has sal's council seat?

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Originally Posted by lizann

would craig not ask the council about building works not gary? who has sal's council seat?

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Wouldn't it be cheaper for Ray to build his complex on an empty brownfield site?

Leanne's barrister is keen to have appeal after appeal. It's a very nice earner for him.

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

Wouldn't it be cheaper for Ray to build his complex on an empty brownfield?

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It's all complete nonsense and just another example in a long line of examples of how Corrie does not understand how local government works. His plans would have to be published first anyway before approval was given, so he couldn't keep them secret. Secondly, I would highly doubt the local Council would give permission for such an out of character development in a residential area. I wonder what their local plan has to say about the area.

Another thing is that Ray has mentioned a hotel. Apart from the fact that the sites footprint is rather small, what about parking. I don't know what century that Ray is in, but parking is rather vital for a hotel in the modern days.

Carla just needs to bed Ken now (for a 'Full House')

Jammy Scotch Git

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Originally Posted by thin space man

Carla just needs to bed Ken now (for a 'Full House')

Jammy Scotch Git

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tracy

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Originally Posted by parkerman

It's all complete nonsense and just another example in a long line of examples of how Corrie does not understand how local government works. His plans would have to be published first anyway before approval was given, so he couldn't keep them secret. Secondly, I would highly doubt the local Council would give permission for such an out of character development in a residential area. I wonder what their local plan has to say about the area.

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He could possible get some underground parking, altho maybe not enough. Is there a need for a hotel in the area, we have never seen many tourist or business visitors in the past.
Perhaps he has not applied for planning permission yet, which make it all the more crazy to be buying up property now. Unless he knows some dodgy councillors who will put it thru' on the nod. We all know that they will not be demolishing half the street so as you say nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Son of Cain

He could possible get some underground parking, altho maybe not enough. Is there a need for a hotel in the area, we have never seen many tourist or business visitors in the past.
Perhaps he has not applied for planning permission yet, which make it all the more crazy to be buying up property now. Unless he knows some dodgy councillors who will put it thru' on the nod. We all know that they will not be demolishing half the street so as you say nonsense.

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He said last night that he hadn't applied for planning permission, which, of course, he couldn't have done because the plans would then have to be published. A plan like that, I'm guessing, would cause uproar on the Council and he would need to bribe an awful lot of Councillors to be sure of getting it through. I would imagine the local paper would be against it and whip up local feeling. As well as bribes, Councillors need to look at where their next votes are coming from!

And yet another chapter in the Peter Barlow Alcoholic storyline. I realise Alcoholics are never really cured but I feel it gets a bit boring repeating the same storyline over and over again, not to mention some of the stuff he said to Carla was really out of line.