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Max is a real '*******'!! (if were not allowed to say that, asterix it out!).
Bradley and Stacey are both in love with each other. And we finally know now that Bradley does love her.
Stacey made a mistake by sleeping with Max, but she didn't lie to Bradley about her feelings for him. She's hurt, and Max knows that. To tell Bradley not to get back with Stacey is cruel and evil!
Max says he wants to help, but now he's just thinking about himself.
So, what happens to Bradley and Stacey now?! :eek:
Lets hope it ends with Max getting a short sharp punch to the face! I told you he was evil before he joined! :)
Yeah! lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by PR1811
I want Sean and Bradley to give him a good going over! And Stacey as well! lol.
I hope Bradley and Stacey can get back together. I know it would be hard if Bradley found out about Max. Most likely impossible, but you've got to see it from her point of view.
And Bradley now knows that he did treat Stacey badly. He admitted that to Max's face. Do you think there could be a way to fix it?!
They are going to run in to each other at some point and have an argument and someone will say "But I love you!" and then the other will say "I love you to, but Max said, you said it was over?!" then when they work it out they will call in Assasin Sonia... :lol:
Blimey was she only 21?! She hasn't aged well has she :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer
This was beyond dissapointing, and it is a shame when its when they promised som much. Then again this is typical of EE nowadays. Massive build up and hype to a damp squib. What shameful treatment of one of the best actresses in this poor soap.
I think they shied away from making it really sad. This could be of course just plain nastiness from the beeb at Wendy Richards leaving and dissing them but its more likely to be just down to plain sloppy writing and continuity.
The writing was even poorer in the second episode and the continuity even poorer. Nobody not even the part-time Lesbian, single mum, alcoholic, ex daughter in law with the surgically enhanced mammary glands thought to check her vital signs:rolleyes:
The whole farce was an insult to our inteligence and looks set to continue doing so with the so called funeral arrangements.:wall:
Without a doubt the poorest soap of the festive period
Have to agree totally, what terrible scripting/writing/both!!!
My wife said in the first episode "ooooh its getting juicy again, maybe we should start watching again".
Then in the second episode, sonia walks back to the pub........no snow......then 10 minutes later pauline comes out, and its thick snow, tree's heavy with snow!!!!!
Pauline, laying on the floor, ex-nurse sonia stood watching, and Dr.Fowler pronounces she is dead without even checking her pulse, what utter rubbish.
And what was with Santa "Phil" talking in a german accent??? :rotfl:
Had quite enjoyed it up to them bits, then it just went back to the old farcicle EE of old.
What is Max's game? Dirty old perv, yuck yuck yuck:sick:. Stacey and Bradley belong together!! Well if this didn't happen it wouldn't be a soap wouldn't it?
It is a shame Honey came around so quickly it would have have been more believable if, Billy had to deal with it on his own. Good acting by the way, made me cry again, well must be the hormones playing up.:(
I'm sorry they made Wendy Richards leave this way. She deserved better.
"What is Max's game? Dirty old perv, yuck yuck yuck"
Well that was about the only realistic part of it to be honest.
Aint many weak willed men that could resist her dressed like that, she is very pretty and has a fantastic figure!!!
Even my wife said not many men would resist her!
That totally was not a good exit for such a valued actress. It was so poorly done that I was laughing at it. The bit where she was wobbly on her feet was bad enough, but the fall just looked as if she was drunk or something.
They want to sort out the timekeeping, too. And the reality. Since when, could a 6 year old girl go to Pauline's, see what happened, then be back before Sonia. Unless Martin AND Rebecca were there, which obviously, they weren't. And I don't think she could have gone on her own. Possibly Dot, but surely she would have said something. :hmm:
Max and Stacey - yuck. It's a good job I didn't have my full attention on the screen, at the end of the first episode. Loved the part with Tanya and Bradley, but just a little bit too late.
Pauline and Sonia - I actually felt a bit sorry for Pauline when Sonia was talking about that bike thing, because it showed how nice she could be, but then she ruined it by saying 'It was my world.'
Good on Sonia if she did cause it.
Lol, The question is did Rebecca see anything when she put the card at Paulines door???
Can't believe Max though how could he? He wants to be a Dad to his daughters and son and then he goes off with Stacey leaving Tanya sorting everyting out.
Can't wait till it gets out Stacey won't know whats hit her when Tanya finds out.
I know everyone's saying how crap the episodes were but i still wish i hadnt missed them- must have been better than a lot of other christmas drivel.
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Originally Posted by Footie_Chick
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Also, I'm doing Media Studies, and that card seemed like a symbolic code to me.
I agree, last night's two Christmas episodes were poor. It was ok to start with, it did look promising, Ian trying to persaude Pauline to stay, the confrontation between Sonia and Pauline, etc, but when Pauline just wobbled, fell to the floor and died, it was awful. In fact, i was nearly laughing, i couldn't believe she was actually dead, i didn't feel sad and i didn't feel any emotion, it was very poorly done.
I don't get this whole Max and Stacey business, i can't stand Stacey right now, what does she think she's doing getting it off with Max and what does Max see in her!? Totally unconvincing.
Another thing to add, why did it snow? It's funny that it snows in Albert Square and nowhere else in the country has snow.
I didn't enjoy this much at all. As the episode started with the classic lines from Arthur/Michelle/Lou i thought it may be a promising set of festive episodes, but typical Eastenders they managed to ruin it, and just remind us that its current output of episodes are rubbish in comparission to the classic eastenders that we all knew and loved.
I'm sick of the panto Gary and Minty, the spoilt brat Ben and this entire Bracey/Max drivel. I can't associate with a single character and if they axed it tomorrow I wouldn't shed a single tear.
They had the potential to make these episodes mind blowing, saying goodbye to a soap legend, but apart from her argument with Sonia, her exit -quiet frankly- was appauling. They have spent the last few months ruining her character, turning her into a shadow of her former self. Why would we care that they killed off some sad old spinster? All we are feeling sorry for is how the producers and writers are killing off not Pauline, but the show with their rubbish efforts.
Eastenders - can it survive another Christmas?
I agree. It started off well. We had some nice exchanges between Ian and Pauline, and Dot and Pauline - very natural conversations, but after that it just plummeted.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Christmas
Don't even get me started on the snow. Cheesy old rubbish.
Easily. However IMO it's a mere shadow of its former self. I might not even bother watching Christmas 2007, which would be the first time I would miss the Christmas episodes since the beginning (I've seen them all). Hard to believe it was 20 years yesterday that Den gave Angie Watts the divorce papers - how it has plummeted.Quote:
Eastenders - can it survive another Christmas?
Well Fred Elliott died aged 12, and he had no hair follacles at all during that time, and was a grandfather! There are some very disfunctional families around. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Clause
Oh yes Alan, the funeral spoilers indicate this storyline is going to turn into even more of a farce. :(
All you lot saying Pauline had a bad exit what would you have done and how would you have killed her off?
People keep over analyzing EastEnders all the time for no reason. The episodes last night had nothing wrong with them. If you think they should have been done a different way lets here it.
I don't even think half of you watch.
I am in two minds about the episodes from yesterday it was okay but i thought it was going to be really sad when she died but it wasn't at all it just sort of happened so i was a bit disapointed with it to be honest.
I Was Really Dissapointed With The Scenes Of Paulines Death! That Must Of Been The Worst Way To Kill Off A Actresse Who Has Been In EE Since It First Started! Looked More Of A drunken Fall Then A Death Fall (Althrough I Have Absoulotely No Idea What They Look Like!)
I Wonder How The Card Got On The DoorStep:hmm: Maybe Dot Put It Down Or Something Not To Sure About It Through:hmm:
I Was Set Against The Stacey/Max Affair But Now I Think It's Getting Good. Althrough It Is A Shame On Bradley!
I enjoyed the two episodes yesterday. Minty and Gary were actually rather funny I thought. Yep a bit panto, but soooo what, its Crimbo time and EE normally gets grief for being too depressing - they cant win.:(
The only bit I didnt like was the Max (you swine) and Stacey thing - it seems alittle sick too me (nearly choked on my mince pie when that scene with them in bed together came on my screen.:sick:), and the speed at which Bradders turned around from shouting "I dont want anything to do with you" to Stace in the pub, to telling his dad (who had just erm....slept with her) that he loved her...was pretty incredulous.
Also I actually found myself willing on the satsuma (Pauline) to smack Sonia back, after the little madam wollaped her one. Ding dong the witch is finally dead!!!!:cheer:
Just one Q, want is to become of the scruffy mutt that Pauline use to carry under her arm? :hmm:
I Think Either Dot or Martin May Take Her Not To Sure Through:hmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkbanana
Yeah that turn around for Bradley was quite strange. He really did seem genuine when he told Stacey he didn't love her (at the party). Were there two different script writers for those two episodes?! I'm assuming so!
Bradley is very influenced by others. He said he didn't love Stacey, after he felt humiliated in front of his friends (at the party), which was probably to do with how he felt his friends reactions to her were. And then he said he loved her, after Max and Tanya told him how much Stacey loves him. He seems very mixed up. And i'm quite confused what his actual feelings are.
Although it seems that he does love her. Because he has to feel hurt by Max sleeping with Stacey. Otherwise it wouldn't be a good storyline.
Nope. It was old-school chap Simon Ashdown who wrote both episodes.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
I wished I'd have watched drivel instead of EE. It would have been more enjoyableQuote:
Originally Posted by *soap*star*
Ah yes he knows a lot about the East End me old chinaQuote:
Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer
the bit when Phil said to Rebecca 'what do you wnt for christmas' and she said 'a cardigan'! :lol: i nearly weed myself laughing at the stupidness of that!
Yeah! lol. I didn't think at the time, but maybe she got that expression off her gran! lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by LostVoodoo
So not one person has answered my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Car
Says it all really. Sarah is right about this place.
I'll answer your question - although I haven't bothered to post in months!Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Car
I would have preferred a storyline simialar to what Dennis had - Pauline hit over the head by person(s) unknown or something similar to who shot Phil. It just seems anticlimatic.
Yes, Pauline has always been a miserable cow, but the one thing that Pauline NEVER did was turn her back on her family - no matter what. However, the scripte writers, in their finite wisdom, had Pauline do just that. Pauline turned her back on Martin - even taking back the stall. I just cannot see Pauline doing that. Running away to America, yes, but becoming so embittered against her son, no.
Sonja slappaed her. Thousands of people have been slapped in EE (most of them by Peggy) and no one has died from a slap in the face.
Totally rubbish and Wendy Richards deserved much better.
Good posting howeverQuote:
Originally Posted by Suzanne
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All gets revealed at the end of January. I blame EastEnders they should have made this part of the storyline more aware to viewers.
Hint = knock knock.
Did any one find it weird that all that snow just magically dissapeared tonight, there was loads of it there lasnight when Pauline died tonight clear as a bell, oh well cant say i expected anything more from them to be honest, only Eastenders can have tones of snow one night then suddenly none the next :rolleyes:
Hahaha, you sound like my sister. Hates the show, yet still found time to critises the snow :lol:Quote:
Did any one find it weird that all that snow just magically dissapeared tonight, there was loads of it there lasnight when Pauline died tonight clear as a bell
Poor episode tonight :) Nice to see Ian getting involved though :p I think he should get involved with other characters more often, in the good way, not 'Oh Ian is a loser blah blah' *hides*
your right it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by In The Car
that was just a joke however I think paulines death was a genuine death I think her character transplant went wrong somewhere and she died as an evil tyrant.Spoiler:
I think the biggest mystery around paulines death is what michelle and vickys excuse for not attending the funeral is!!
Come on you have to admit it is really weird there wasn't a trace of snow on that episode tonight and we all know that in reality if there was that much snow it wouldn't clear up like that so quickly :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Clauses Bitch
You sound so boringly familiar.Quote:
Originally Posted by In The Car
I thought last nights was bad but omg tonights was 10 times worse. Who writes this rubbish. Obviously the worst of the Christmas soaps. So many brilliant potentials ruined by dire writing
Yes because the producers and the Beeb dont give two balls of blue about the real viewers because the telly tax money keeps rolling in:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by White Christmas
I agree, it was really awful again tonight. Even worse than last night, i really couldn't care about the whole Li storyline, and Stacey and Max are just getting boring. Everyone acted like everything was normal when a person who had lived in the Square all her life had just died the following day. There was no atmosphere to suggest someone had just died, and there was not enough emotion. Ian and Martin didn't show enough emotion, no one really seemed to care. It was cringeworthy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bah!! Humbug
Why did Martin seem to not care?? Ian seemed more devastated at Paulines death that Martin did, yet it was his mother?! No matter what their problems may have been, she was still his mum.
I have to admit, the Xmas Day episodes, I Sky +'d and then went to the end, after having the "pleasure" of watching some cringeworthy stuff from Stacey and Max and not wanting to put myself through any more of it!, just to see Pauline fall to the ground and die.
Tonight though, I caught 15 mins and gave up again - like I said just now, and totally agreeing with you Davey - no feeling, no atmosphere of loss - nothing.