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22-03-2012, 11:50
parkerman

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Originally Posted by lizann

Ian told Marsden but Ben thinks it was Heather I think Heather was telling Ben there was something she needed to fix Ben assumed it was her grassing him up but I think she meant her and Shirley

Absolutely correct.
22-03-2012, 14:22
tammyy2j

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Originally Posted by LostVoodoo

It might have worked a few years ago, but Phil has become such a caricature of himself that it just seemed odd! The best person in this has been Jay, nice to see someone genuinely upset about a murder and also the throwback to what happened with his dad, he must be feeling very isolated among the Mitchells. Ben with the coat was really weird, he could have spilt curry on it and then had an excuse to put it in the washing machine, rather than just swiping it - that's really suspicious!

I agree Jay is playing a blinder

Shirley was great also last night

Steve McFadden acting isnt up to much imo and this storyline shows it

I think Phil would and will stitch up Billy or even Jay or Shirley to save Ben
22-03-2012, 15:10
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by lizann

Ian told Marsden but Ben thinks it was Heather I think Heather was telling Ben there was something she needed to fix Ben assumed it was her grassing him up but I think she meant her and Shirley

Faffing about did for Heather.
22-03-2012, 15:16
JustJodi

My hats off to the guy who plays Jay..he did a bang up job and so did Shirley,, her face omg her face when she came in with George..the whole thing was ruined by that idiot Ben,, and bumbling Phil,, boy I would have given any thing to see Mardsen show up at the station last night when they were all in the waiting room..she would have had a field day with it Ah Phil Mitchell you couldn't stay away.. ahh lying Ben...etc I have a feeling Jay is going to break down and tell Billy.. and Billy trying to be a true Mitchell will tell him to keep his mouth shut..typical Billy who is harrassed and abused as much as Heather was..just my 2 cents worth All in all it was a good episode and Jay and Shirley were the stars
22-03-2012, 17:45
megan999

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Originally Posted by lizann

Ian told Marsden but Ben thinks it was Heather I think Heather was telling Ben there was something she needed to fix Ben assumed it was her grassing him up but I think she meant her and Shirley

Oops, my mistake sorry.

I agree that the actor who plays Jay is doing very well.
22-03-2012, 18:53
flappinfanny

will mcklunky's take over shirls kaff??? :) hats off to ee, the set is superb. brilliant.
22-03-2012, 18:55
flappinfanny

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Originally Posted by sarah c

why wouldnt he be?

that will teach me for being fippant.
22-03-2012, 22:38
flappinfanny

june browns performance in tonights ee was almost to painful to watch. it was remarkable and beautifully played.
22-03-2012, 23:23
lizann

I wanna smack that grin off Ben's smug face
23-03-2012, 10:34
tammyy2j

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

june browns performance in tonights ee was almost to painful to watch. it was remarkable and beautifully played.

I agree and also the guy who plays Andrew was very good I wanted to give them both a hug

I expected some cracks of guilt to show in Ben once Ian admitted to telling Marsden but nothing he is so vile and evil

So Phil knew what was on Shirley's voicemail i.e. that Hev mentioned Andrew and no one asked him how, hope the message can be retrieved somehow perhaps off Hev landline if that is possible come on CSI :p
23-03-2012, 13:41
sarah c

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

that will teach me for being fippant.

I think to be honest, Ben would be a Tory-bot more than likely??
23-03-2012, 13:42
sarah c

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

june browns performance in tonights ee was almost to painful to watch. it was remarkable and beautifully played.

agreed - but then name a June Brown performance that isnt spot on!!? How many other major soap characters have done a solo episode as she did and carried it off?

the older cast members are too under-used I often feel?
23-03-2012, 16:21
megan999

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Originally Posted by lizann

I wanna smack that grin off Ben's smug face

It would be a twist if Phil was the one to shop Ben to the police for Hev's murder. THAT would wipe the grin of Ben's face!

I'm enjoying EE at the moment. Sad they killed off Hev, but I suppose they needed to generate some excitement after the whole Yusef saga.

I hope they don't write out Shirley now that Hev has gone. Time life extinguished. Is that really to replace Time of death?
23-03-2012, 16:21
JustJodi

June Brown nailed it, you could see her heart breaking,,I won't be surprised if she gives the wedding gown to the funeral home and tells them to bury her in it,
23-03-2012, 16:24
JustJodi

How many of you guys wanted to smash Ben's face in when he went outside to see Heather's body brought out ??? Smug little BASXARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now he knows that it was not Heather that "grassed" him up . Hes a murdering vile little toad ( pssst folks can u tell I do not like this boy LOL )
23-03-2012, 23:53
flappinfanny

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Originally Posted by sarah c

agreed - but then name a June Brown performance that isnt spot on!!? How many other major soap characters have done a solo episode as she did and carried it off?

the older cast members are too under-used I often feel?

yes your spot on. the older characters are the saviours in all of the big 3, dot, cora, rose and patrick in ee, ken, emily, rita, norris in corrie and alan,sandy, pearl, edna and betty in emmerdale.
24-03-2012, 15:56
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

june browns performance in tonights ee was almost to painful to watch. it was remarkable and beautifully played.

I didn't like that daft speech to Arthur

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Originally Posted by JustJodi

June Brown nailed it, you could see her heart breaking,,I won't be surprised if she gives the wedding gown to the funeral home and tells them to bury her in it,

The silences were good. Please don't waste the dress Dot give it to Cora's shop. SOmeone will have to fork out for Heather's funeral.
25-03-2012, 20:56
flappinfanny

shirl and phillip will pay, thats the least he can do!!!!!
26-03-2012, 16:16
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

shirl and phillip will pay, thats the least he can do!!!!!

Stop it out of Ben's pocket money!!!!
26-03-2012, 16:23
kayuqtuq

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

Please don't waste the dress Dot give it to Cora's shop.

I think 'Ev will be buried in the wedding dress.
26-03-2012, 21:25
lizann

Did Phil drive to the alotments I thought they were close to the square?

I wish Ben was on that slab also
27-03-2012, 12:38
flappinfanny

another excellent ep. thought dereks line was cruel but funny when refering to heather. nice to see the disgusted side of phil towards norman (ben) bates. like the relationship building between cora and dot. also the scenes with dot and patrick were excellent.
27-03-2012, 13:23
Dazzle

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

another excellent ep. thought dereks line was cruel but funny when refering to heather.

I didn't find it funny, just cruel :angry:
27-03-2012, 13:35
sarah c

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I didn't find it funny, just cruel :angry:

yes why is everyone suddenly allowed to make 'fat' jokes once Heather's last episode was in sight?
27-03-2012, 13:41
Dazzle

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Originally Posted by sarah c

yes why is everyone suddenly allowed to make 'fat' jokes once Heather's last episode was in sight?

I don't understand the writers - they must know Cheryl Fergison, but make nasty "jokes" they know she will hear when she watches EE (as she says she will continue doing). They should be ashamed of themselves!
27-03-2012, 14:06
flappinfanny

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I didn't find it funny, just cruel :angry:

i agree it was cruel, but the fact derek made this remark, was appropriate for his character, it is the sort of thing that would be said by him. it was a throw away remark by derek to alfie, played brilliantly by jamie. it would not have had the same effect if another character had said this. i found it funny , not because of heather being fat, but because it was said at all, ( it was a gasping sort of momment, thinking did he actually say that) heather was a much loved cherished character and derek is pretty vile. thats why it worked and i thought amusing. the pc brigade can now hit back!
27-03-2012, 14:15
sarah c

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

i agree it was cruel, but the fact derek made this remark, was appropriate for his character, it is the sort of thing that would be said by him. it was a throw away remark by derek to alfie, played brilliantly by jamie. it would not have had the same effect if another character had said this. i found it funny , not because of heather being fat, but because it was said at all, ( it was a gasping sort of momment, thinking did he actually say that) heather was a much loved cherished character and derek is pretty vile. thats why it worked and i thought amusing. the pc brigade can now hit back!

well pot kettle and black from Derek surely? he is hardly the slimseer (sic) girl??!!

I think it is the inconsistency.

when EE started - forgive me here.... - the mini mart was owned by an asian couple and people regularily and openly referred to it as the P**i shop, and would say 'go to the P... shop and get me.....'

which for London andthe East End at the time would have been the norm. So there well done EE for doing it and being 'real' even if not nice

Hev as a character was a larger lady, and those of lesser intelligence would always have called her fat - for me its the fact they never did, but suddenly started when her demise was imminent

it was cheap thrill writing
27-03-2012, 14:17
tammyy2j

Derek aint exactly thin himself
27-03-2012, 15:56
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by kayuqtuq

I think 'Ev will be buried in the wedding dress.

That would be very EastEnders:D
27-03-2012, 20:53
lizann

So will Billy the business man give an interview to the newspaer now when he could be arrested for Heather's murder since Phil took his hoodie for Jay

Dora was hilarious tonight she is a great character
28-03-2012, 00:03
flappinfanny

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Originally Posted by sarah c

well pot kettle and black from Derek surely? he is hardly the slimseer (sic) girl??!!

I think it is the inconsistency.

when EE started - forgive me here.... - the mini mart was owned by an asian couple and people regularily and openly referred to it as the P**i shop, and would say 'go to the P... shop and get me.....'

which for London andthe East End at the time would have been the norm. So there well done EE for doing it and being 'real' even if not nice

Hev as a character was a larger lady, and those of lesser intelligence would always have called her fat - for me its the fact they never did, but suddenly started when her demise was imminent

it was cheap thrill writing

fair point.
28-03-2012, 00:06
flappinfanny

another cracking ep tonight. the scenes with dot and cora on the stairs smoking was very good, two superb actors. and a brilliant performance as always by gillian wright.
28-03-2012, 03:11
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

another cracking ep tonight. the scenes with dot and cora on the stairs smoking was very good, two superb actors. and a brilliant performance as always by gillian wright.

It was intersting but I cringed at the way they treated Jean
28-03-2012, 10:50
sarah c

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

It was intersting but I cringed at the way they treated Jean

I cringed too, but felt it was accurate - anyone with a weakness has it exploited when it suits the bullies, which is what Phil is.

He knows Jean gets confused and has self-doubts so played on that
28-03-2012, 11:37
Brucie

Phil Mitchell obviously took a course in hypnotism whilst banged up - his powers of mind control since he was released are WAY beyond those of a bully - "look into my eyes, not around the eyes but into the eyes...."
28-03-2012, 13:53
tammyy2j

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Originally Posted by flappinfanny

another cracking ep tonight. the scenes with dot and cora on the stairs smoking was very good, two superb actors. and a brilliant performance as always by gillian wright.

Eastenders's Golden Girls (Rose, Dot and Cora) are great

So much for family for Phil as he stitches up Billy now

I really want Ben and Phil caught out soon
28-03-2012, 14:03
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by sarah c

I cringed too, but felt it was accurate - anyone with a weakness has it exploited when it suits the bullies, which is what Phil is.

He knows Jean gets confused and has self-doubts so played on that

I wasn't actually refering to Mitchell. I was refering the the Alfie/Roxanne double act
28-03-2012, 14:06
sarah c

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

I wasn't actually refering to Mitchell. I was refering the the Alfie/Roxanne double act

yes, but how often do people take the route of least resistance when a bully is at work?

go along and agree with the bully at the expense of the 'little' person, because at least you are not being targetted?
28-03-2012, 15:53
tammyy2j

I miss Hev already :(
28-03-2012, 16:01
megan999

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Originally Posted by tammyy2j

I miss Hev already :(

Me too. I wasn't her biggest fan, but you don't know what you got till it's gone.
Is Crisp going to use his flimsy £1000 motive to hang on anybody? Being Andrew/Billy at the moment?
I know that Ben is totally repulsive, but I quite enjoy his scenes, the actor is good at being bad :D

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