Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Whitney obviously wasn't expecting Ryan to want to take Lily! Hopefully she's now regretting contacting Ryan so hastily. I wonder why he thinks it's a good idea to take his daughter? He could have another partner by now who'd be happy to take her in I suppose. It'd be interesting to find out.

I quite liked the fact that Whitney was so horrified at Ryan's actions lol. It supports my argument that she's a decent person on the whole, but one who doesn't consider the consequences of her actions. I think she could do with growing up a bit. :wall:

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I shouldn't think so. I mean, he's on the run for murder, so when would he have time to settle down and find a new girlfriend? You can see the family resemblance between him and Whit; neither of them thinks first before they act. Besides the fact that Lily doesn't know him, does he really think he can take a little girl on the run with him???

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Why on earth did Ian phone the headmaster of the boarding school on Christmas Day if they weren't intending on sending Bobby away until September? Couldn't it have waited until after Christmas??? :searchme:

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It was because he wants to send Bobby there ASAP, which I can understand, as Bobby is totally out of control. though I doubt sending him to that school is gonna help much.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Hopefully the Ben/Paul relationship will stop being neglected now. I thought they had promise as a couple at the beginning and think they could work long term.

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I just want Ben to wake up and be honest with his sexuality finally. It never helps when you deny who you really are. And personally I want that stuck-up crazy b**ch Abi to finally get it, too!

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Me too. I think that's very out of character of Kat!

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Yeah, I thought so, too, but they had to get rid of Kat and Alfie so that they could start filming that mini-series in Ireland due later this year. I suppose it was the best exit the writers could come up with at the time.

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Originally Posted by Perdita

THAT is NOT a rubbish car!!! It is a classic!!! No longer produced!!!

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It was only a joke.

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Originally Posted by Timalay

With all that money Alfie and Kat have you thought they would have a better car than that rubbish one.

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OMG I grew up wanting that car so much.....a black Capri was my dream.

if it was forsale now I'd be in there...

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Originally Posted by sarah c

OMG I grew up wanting that car so much.....a black Capri was my dream.

if it was forsale now I'd be in there...

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I had 3 Capris in my time, 2 red though, one blue, not black but loved them :D

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Originally Posted by storyseeker1

I shouldn't think so. I mean, he's on the run for murder, so when would he have time to settle down and find a new girlfriend? You can see the family resemblance between him and Whit; neither of them thinks first before they act. Besides the fact that Lily doesn't know him, does he really think he can take a little girl on the run with him???

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He's probably living somewhere under a new identity, and could have a new family and a job. Stacey was living with someone and working as a hairdresser when Kat found her if you remember.

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Originally Posted by storyseeker1

It was because he wants to send Bobby there ASAP, which I can understand, as Bobby is totally out of control. though I doubt sending him to that school is gonna help much.

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You're probably right that Ian always intended to send Bobby to away as soon as possible. It doesn't really negate my point about phoning the headmaster on Christmas Day though. Who does that? :wall:

Sending Bobby to boarding school could even worsen Bobby's behaviour, in the same way prison can turn slightly dodgy types into hardened criminals.

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Originally Posted by storyseeker1

I just want Ben to wake up and be honest with his sexuality finally. It never helps when you deny who you really are. And personally I want that stuck-up crazy b**ch Abi to finally get it, too!

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I'm still quite fond of Abi! However, I've got little sympathy with her in the Ben situation because she's been complicit in keeping him in the closet in her desperation to be a Mitchell. :D

Both Jean and Kat abandoning Stacey seems so wrong and out of character

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

He's probably living somewhere under a new identity, and could have a new family and a job. Stacey was living with someone and working as a hairdresser when Kat found her if you remember.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Still don't know how that could have worked though. I mean you have to give your security code and national insurance number and everything nowadays when you start work.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

You're probably right that Ian always intended to send Bobby to away as soon as possible. It doesn't really negate my point about phoning the headmaster on Christmas Day though. Who does that? :wall:

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Ian apparently.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Sending Bobby to boarding school could even worsen Bobby's behaviour, in the same way prison can turn slightly dodgy types into hardened criminals.

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Maybe, but it's not exactly prison. All he has to do is cause enough havoc and he can get expelled. Obviously you can't do that with prison.

Bobby definitely needs discipline though. He can't get that at home, as Jane is too soft-hearted and weak-willed.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

I'm still quite fond of Abi! However, I've got little sympathy with her in the Ben situation because she's been complicit in keeping him in the closet in her desperation to be a Mitchell. :D

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I wonder how she'd react if she found out that the clan she's devoted herself to is responsible for getting her dad in prison, and she helped them. And the only reason she's with him is because I suspect she's still pining over Jay. I'm sorry but I have no respect for her. She's an idiot who's dating a guy who she knows is gay yet believes it doesn't matter.

I really hope to god that Ben goes through with it and admits the truth, but knowing EE he's probably gonna chicken out at the end. Seems to be their theme nowadays. First with Bobby, where everyone nearly finds out the truth, but of course then something unexpected happens and then everyone is none the wiser. Then with Fatboy's murder and Ronnie not knowing the truth. Kat's secret son is about the only secret that has truly gotten found out.

Abi is desperate to be loved I do feel some bit sorry for her but in his own way Ben does love her just not romantically

I wish Lauren has told Abi the truth about Max and Ben

I do think Abi could catch Ben with Paul and still turn a blind eye

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Originally Posted by storyseeker1

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Still don't know how that could have worked though. I mean you have to give your security code and national insurance number and everything nowadays when you start work.

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I've no idea how people live under false identities, but some seem to find a way - even in real life. Stealing the identity of a dead child is a method that's often depicted in fiction.

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Originally Posted by storyseeker1

Maybe, but it's not exactly prison. All he has to do is cause enough havoc and he can get expelled. Obviously you can't do that with prison.

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He might learn to hide his real nature better and avoid getting expelled. It'll all depend if he likes it there and wants to stay. I think he could meet like-minded boys he can learn from (which is why I compared it to prison).

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Originally Posted by storyseeker1

I wonder how she'd react if she found out that the clan she's devoted herself to is responsible for getting her dad in prison, and she helped them. And the only reason she's with him is because I suspect she's still pining over Jay. I'm sorry but I have no respect for her. She's an idiot who's dating a guy who she knows is gay yet believes it doesn't matter.

I really hope to god that Ben goes through with it and admits the truth, but knowing EE he's probably gonna chicken out at the end. Seems to be their theme nowadays. First with Bobby, where everyone nearly finds out the truth, but of course then something unexpected happens and then everyone is none the wiser. Then with Fatboy's murder and Ronnie not knowing the truth. Kat's secret son is about the only secret that has truly gotten found out.

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Like tammyy2j says, Abi's desperate to be loved and be part of a family. She never felt wanted by her own family. It's quite sad when you think about it which is why I can't hate her. She knows deep down Ben's gay of course, but has deluded herself (with his help) that it was just a phase he's now over. They're both guilty of using each other for their own ends, but at the same time I believe they both care for each other so I feel quite sorry for both of them.

I agree Ben won't admit the truth when Abi returns. Paul's now been dragged into the mess too. :(

I was quite surprised when Paul told Ben he loved him, thought Ben would say it first as to me their "relationship" is more about getting frisky even in the funeral parlour than deep and emotional