X Factor 2007 - General Discussion

Will new jealous rows tear Hope apart?
The X Factor group fall out - again

23rd November 07

There's been more trouble in the Hope camp. The X Factor band, who are going from strength to strength each week on the show, risk being pulled apart by fighting within the band.

We can reveal that during rehearsals this week, Charlie stormed out in an angry strop because she's annoyed that Phoebe sings lead vocals so often.

Phoebe, who was praised last week by the judges for her performance, was chosen to sing lead again on tomorrow night's show. But the other girls ain't happy. We've heard Charlie even referred to the group as "Phoebe and the Woo Woo girls".

Let's hope Phoebe does well singing Christina Aguilera's Hurt tomorrow night...

I love the song same difference is singing but hopefull they wont camp it up even though it is what they de best lol.

Hope Rhydian will blow us all away as he always does.

Hope.... Hmmm, i'm not feeling this one. The lead girl has a good voice but no where near good enough to sing this. Even if she does pull it off the rest of the girls will bring her back down. The girls really need to sort out harmonies rather than just all 5 off them scream the same lyrics all at once. Its not a good sound. I blame simon who need to show them how to be a group as the girls have no idea and he' too busy drooling

I think Nikki peeked when singing her celine titanic hit and hasnt been on top form since. I think she will ruin a great song.

Niki and Rhydian were the best. I thought Leon was fairly good and Same Difference & Beverley were OK although I didn't enjoy them that much. Same Difference need to cut out the stupid faces they pull. It was Hope's worst performance so far I thought, can see them and Beverley been in the bottom two probably.

Rhydian was the best :cheer:.
Same Difference were really good.
Hope? What was that? They might as well be called Phoebe's Backing or something with Pheobe in. They just stand there going ooooohhh ahhhhhhh ohhhhhhh ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. THEM TO GO PLEASE :D
Bev and Niki were alright.

Same Difference were fantastic tonight - I really liked them and seen a different side to them - I didn't think they were that cheesy tonight at all. Beverley, Niki and Rhydian were all great too.

I can see Hope and Leon being in the Bottom 2, with Hope leaving tonight - that's my prediction anyway..

Rhydian was amazing. I love that song, and he did it brilliantly :)

I think its gonna be bye bye Hope, they messed up big style tonight.

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Originally Posted by Chris_2k7

I think its gonna be bye bye Hope, they messed up big style tonight.

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Definately. That girl is a good singer (Dont know her name), but she's not good enough to pull it off solo. They sounded much better at the beginning of the comp, when they sung the majority of it together, or in smaller groups.

I dont rate Beverly much either.

Beverly was really boring there

Classic! I love shock exits :D Simon's face was brilliant too. Cat that got the cream, or what? What the hell, i would be as well if i got one over on that bloody Louis!

What a shocker!!! totally expected Hope to be out

An absolute rubbish decision! What a travesty! Hope are hopeless and Beverley was a top class act! What was Sharon thinking!? I wish another of Simon's acts went.

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Originally Posted by DaVeyWaVey

An absolute rubbish decision! What a travesty! Hope are hopeless and Beverley was a top class act! What was Sharon thinking!? I wish another of Simon's acts went.

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I would have done the same as Sharon. No one can blame her for which one of them went, because it was purely down to the votes. Goes to show that she was thinking more about what the audience like, rather than her personal favourites.

I didn't like either of them much. Hope were worse tonight, but Beverly wouldn't have won the show, she was bound to go at some point.

Im not overly keen on anyone, cant see any of them doing great!

I thought Sharon's decision would have been easy though to be honest - unless she thought Hope were actually good! A big difference in talent, in the bottom 2 in my opinion, but yeah i suppose she was going with what the public wanted..so I could understand where she was coming from in that respect..

It's just the fact that a first class talent has gone, over an overrated rubbish band in my opinion - the programme was designed around people like her, a person who didn't recognise their talent and didn't know how good they were. I think she had a good chance in winning , even though Rhydian is also a brilliant act - she could have definetly gone to the final, and possibly all the way.

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Originally Posted by DaVeyWaVey

I thought Sharon's decision would have been easy though to be honest - unless she thought Hope were actually good! A big difference in talent, in the bottom 2 in my opinion, but yeah i suppose she was going with what the public wanted..so I could understand where she was coming from in that respect..

It's just the fact that a first class talent has gone, over an overrated rubbish band in my opinion - the programme was designed around people like her in my opinion, a person who didn't recognise their talent and didn't know how good they were. I think she had a good chance in winning in my opinion, even though Rhydian is also a brilliant act - she could have definetly gone to the final, and possibly all the way.

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She wouldn't have won though. And even if she did, who would buy her records? Look at the two biggest selling singles this year: Umbrella and Bleeding Love. Would she honestly come close to that? Would Niki? Because i very much doubt that if either of them win/had won, then they would be around for much more than 1 year.

As i've said before, it would be Steve all over again. People like them on the TV show, but buying their music is a very different ball game.

I dont think Hope are rubbish, they're not the best but at the same time they're not exactly rubbish. Girls Aloud are quite similar and they've been successful so why couldn't Hope be?

I'm saying Hope is rubbish as my personal opinion, everyone else could like them and they could sell loads of records...but the show is based on talent - it's what the show is all about and in my opinion, Beverley has more talent than Hope so Beverley should have stayed as a result.

but Abi's right, who would really buy Beverley's records? Most people prefer more of a catchy pop track these days

You never know...Beverley could have done well for herself..

hmm doubt it Davey, not in this day and age.

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Originally Posted by DaVeyWaVey

You never know...Beverley could have done well for herself..

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Much like Steve could have.....

Exactly. Where's Steve? Nowhere to be seen because music like his isn't appealing these days.

She could have been popular though, she has bucket loads more talent (in my opinion) than Hope which is a start, but we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)

sorry Davey didn't mean to come across like i was having a go. it'd be nice if more acts like Beverley, Steve, Rhydian etc could be big sellers but i just cant see it happening tbh. There's so much more competition in the Pop/R&B world.

Abi you're saying it as if you know that Beverley wouldn't have sold any recors. Do you have a crystal ball lol? I think that Beverley is very talented, quite contemporary (sp?), with a unique voice, and and I know many people who would buy her records.

As for Hope, sure I understand some people hem, I see where Dave is coming from though, they don't personally appeal to me, but I can see how they would to other people. I don't think we need another girlband though. I know we only really have 2, but in my opinion that's enough.

I agree.

My favourite act is Niki but even though I love her on the X Factor, I can't see myself buying her music - I just love listening to her sing on TV.

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Originally Posted by CrazyLea

Abi you're saying it as if you know that Beverley wouldn't have sold any recors. Do you have a crystal ball lol? I think that Beverley is very talented, quite contemporary (sp?), with a unique voice, and and I know many people who would buy her records.

As for Hope, sure I understand some people hem, I see where Dave is coming from though, they don't personally appeal to me, but I can see how they would to other people. I don't think we need another girlband though. I know we only really have 2, but in my opinion that's enough.

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Just looking at the Top 40 is enough to know she wouldn't have made it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles.shtml

Her music doesn't fit in now a days. She has one type of music she can do really well, i'm not saying she doesn't, but its very 1980's diva, but 2000's chic. Its like Chris said, people prefer a catchy pop/rock/r&b track now. When she tried to pull that off the other week with "You're Beautifull", it didn't work.

You've only heard her sing other peoples songs though. You really don't know what her songs would have been like.

Good lord did Sharon have too much Gin in her tonic tonight, why on earth did she pick Hope instead of Beverly. Granted Beverly has her age against her and she probably won't sell many records but look at the black woman who was forth when Shane Ward one she went on to star in the stage musical Chicago. There is no doubt she can belt out the hits and this is a singing competition. I only saw the results show but for what I did see when Hope where on stage there was 5 girls there but only 1 was singing. If they are going to progress they are going to have to pull their socks up and start coming up with the goods and stop relying on a young 15 year old girl to get them through to the final.

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Originally Posted by CrazyLea

You've only heard her sing other peoples songs though. You really don't know what her songs would have been like.

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In which case, what is the point in this competition then? They all sing other peoples songs, and thats all we judge them on. A good artist can sing older songs AND modern songs.

Its completly unfeasible to say that "i dont know what her songs would have been like", because of course i dont. But the point is, we dont know what ANY of them will be like. They pick songs that show them off the best, so we can judge them. "You're Beautifull" is the song she chose to show the potential of her voice, and she couldn't hack it. If thats her best, then i can only imagine her worse.

Oh i love a bit of controversy :D

EDIT: ANNNDD... She got the least votes tonight, so what hope does that show that she would have sold lots if she had won?

Well that's true, we DON'T know what all of them would be like. So how can you say that Bev wouldn't have sold any records. :searchme:.

In my opinion on the song choice You're Beautiful - I thought she did an amazing job, but then I hate it by James Blunt. People who love the song by James would probs hate it by Bev. (How I felt about Niki and Because of You). It's all about person preference, you can't say she wouldn't have sold many records, 'cause you just don't know that.

Yes it went to deadlock. Yes she had the lowest votes. That was for this week though. Last week she wasn't in the bottom 2, so millions of viewers liked her last week, didn't this week - for all we know, if she did a great week next week she might have been in it til the end. It's a catch 22. In my experience, most people go for the song choice anyway - or the judge.

I don't trust phone-ins anyway, I think it's all fixed. Yet I'm still addicted :p.

In Beverley's defence, the public may have not voted for her because they may have been convinced she was safe from going out (she was one of the strongest acts left in the competition)..and besides, not everyone who watches the show, bothers to vote, so there could have been Beverley fans out there that decided not to vote.

To be honest, I would rather buy a record from an artist that has talent..:)

Dave that is absolutly true. The bit about not everyong voting.

What with the controversy of all this phone-in stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if hardley anyone phoned in these days! No one I know phones in :lol:.

There was a little boy on the Welsh News yesterday who said everyone in his house votes though :lol: (For Rhyd of course). He was so cute :p. But makes you think.. someone out there is voting :ninja:.

Im starting to think Same Difference will be in the top 3, God help us all, if they are sure yesterday they were alright, but there so cheesy and stupid, Louis is right if they won the show it would be an absolute traversty. Hope will be out next week, my brother knows Phoebe the lead singer and so is following them, but whilst I think their alright last night's song choice was totally wrong. Rhydian was amazing again, and Niki needed that last night, but her right back to the top of her game again.

I'm not rating Niki at the moment, can't put my finger on it, she is screeching a bit on the high notes and only seems comfortable singing ballads. I wish Louis would make up his mind, Hope were brilliant in his opinion the last couple of weeks, better than the spice girls, now they are rubbish cos they were up against his act. I can see the final 3 being Leon, Rhydian and Same Difference.

I know, Id like to know how many people actually vote

I can't actually see myself buying anything from the contestants that are left in the competition... They all annoy me so much.. Having said that, the only X factor entry that I have bought was Ben Mills from last year.. he should have won...

I so hope that Same Difference will get voted off soon, and then they can go off to Disney World and put their cheesy smiles about there, I don't like their singing, their acts and the way they look. Why are they so popular, I just don't get it? :searchme: Shame that Bev got voted off, I hope she will still be offered a record deal, with a bit more voice coaching she can be brilliant. :thumbsup:

Can't believe Beverly went, Hope gave an awful performance they should have gone weeks ago but Louis kept saving them well now it back fired for him.

Anyone else think Sharon was getting Louis back for not saving Aleesha last week?

Rhydian, Nikki and Same Difference were all great this week even Leon was good