mike parr is going nowhere for a while yet he and ross are too popular
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mike parr is going nowhere for a while yet he and ross are too popular
I agree- but they did get rid of Carl ( eventually)Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
and there will be another producer soon-
who may wish to make their mark!
I agree- but they did get rid of Carl ( eventually)Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
and there will be another producer soon-
who may wish to make their mark!
ross is a league way higher than carl, cain's leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
ross is a league way higher than carl, cain's leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
If speculation is correct and Kate Oates takes Ross out with her, he'll be on screen until about February, since they film around 2 months ahead.
Unless they let him get away with attempted murder, I would have thought that he must leave at some point to go to jail
They usually make people pay in the end- inQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
soaps -so I would expect that to happen.
Except Pete tried to murder Ross first!!
So not sure where that leaves Soap morals
& Justice in this case?
Carl King got away with murder ... so justice is not always dished out in soaps
We've now had Ross and Andy play out Emmerdale's version of novellist Patricia Highsmith's "Strangers On A Train" plot for Robert's shooting during September 2015.
The plot of Patricia Highsmith's 1950 novel "Strangers On A Train" is as follows:
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The story concerns two strangers who meet on a train, a young tennis player and a charming psychopath. The psychopath suggests that because they each want to "get rid" of someone, they should "exchange" murders, and that way neither will get caught. The first murder is committed; then the psychopath tries to force the tennis player to complete the bargain.
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Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strang...ain_%28film%29
Prince Charming? Ross? Come on! NOT! Haha!
Now we seem to have West Side Story coming up and Ross now seems to have a social disease. (You heard it here on soapboards first!)
Ross, take my 'brotherly' advice. When you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING!
I really never thought the day would come when I would be OK watching Pete on Emmerdale but wouldn't be OK watching Ross. Anyway, that day has come and passed now.
I reckon we're being set up to hate Ross over a very short space of time for some connected storyline involving Debbie.
Mike Parr sort of hinted in a recent Daily Express actor interview that "I'm a sociopath". Actor dreams.
So where is the Ross future going to go? I just wish I was an Emmerdale storyliner. I'm really sure I could bring some common sense and real life experience to the Emmerdale storyliner department.
Anyway, what could existing Emmerdale storyliners have thought up?
1) Maybe Andy gets really drunk in the Woolpack one night, blacks out and he tells all of his dark thoughts to other villagers about how Ross was the one who shot Robert (and other Ross history too that Andy knows about?)? The villagers then take matters into their own hands and Ross is a goner, one way or another?
2) Maybe Debbie becomes aware of Ross's previous actions, she leaves Emmerdale with some/all of her kids, as the Dingles think Debbie has lost contact with reality and so she realises that Ross is a complete nutcase and Cameron #2 impersonator?
3) Ross becomes a manipulative and jealous (violent?) boyfriend for Debbie, so she leaves with the kids, and maybe Cain kills Ross as he's hurt his 'little girl' so much.
#3 sounds good!
West Side Story
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GEE, OFFICER KRUPKE
ACTION
Dear kindly Sergeant Krupke,
You gotta understand,
It's just our bringin' up-ke
That gets us out of hand.
Our mothers all are junkies,
Our fathers all are drunks.
Golly Moses, natcherly we're punks!
ACTION AND JETS
Gee, Officer Krupke, we're very upset;
We never had the love that ev'ry child oughta get.
We ain't no delinquents,
We're misunderstood.
Deep down inside us there is good!
ACTION
There is good!
ALL
There is good, there is good,
There is untapped good!
Like inside, the worst of us is good!
SNOWBOY: (Spoken) That's a touchin' good story.
ACTION: (Spoken) Lemme tell it to the world!
SNOWBOY: Just tell it to the judge.
ACTION
Dear kindly Judge, your Honor,
My parents treat me rough.
With all their marijuana,
They won't give me a puff.
They didn't wanna have me,
But somehow I was had.
Leapin' lizards! That's why I'm so bad!
DIESEL: (As Judge) Right!
Officer Krupke, you're really a square;
This boy don't need a judge, he needs an analyst's care!
It's just his neurosis that oughta be curbed.
He's psychologic'ly disturbed!
ACTION
I'm disturbed!
JETS
We're disturbed, we're disturbed,
We're the most disturbed,
Like we're psychologic'ly disturbed.
DIESEL: (Spoken, as Judge) In the opinion on this court, this child is depraved on account he ain't had a normal home.
ACTION: (Spoken) Hey, I'm depraved on account I'm deprived.
DIESEL: So take him to a headshrinker.
ACTION (Sings)
My father is a *******,
My ma's an S.O.B.
My grandpa's always plastered,
My grandma pushes tea.
My sister wears a mustache,
My brother wears a dress.
Goodness gracious, that's why I'm a mess!
A-RAB: (As Psychiatrist) Yes!
Officer Krupke, you're really a slob.
This boy don't need a doctor, just a good honest job.
Society's played him a terrible trick,
And sociologic'ly he's sick!
ACTION
I am sick!
ALL
We are sick, we are sick,
We are sick, sick, sick,
Like we're sociologically sick!
A-RAB: In my opinion, this child don't need to have his head shrunk at all. Juvenile delinquency is purely a social disease!
ACTION: Hey, I got a social disease!
A-RAB: So take him to a social worker!
ACTION
Dear kindly social worker,
They say go earn a buck.
Like be a soda jerker,
Which means like be a schumck.
It's not I'm anti-social,
I'm only anti-work.
Gloryosky! That's why I'm a jerk!
BABY JOHN: (As Female Social Worker)
Eek!
Officer Krupke, you've done it again.
This boy don't need a job, he needs a year in the pen.
It ain't just a question of misunderstood;
Deep down inside him, he's no good!
ACTION
I'm no good!
ALL
We're no good, we're no good!
We're no earthly good,
Like the best of us is no damn good!
DIESEL (As Judge)
The trouble is he's crazy.
A-RAB (As Psychiatrist)
The trouble is he drinks.
BABY JOHN (As Female Social Worker)
The trouble is he's lazy.
DIESEL
The trouble is he stinks.
A-RAB
The trouble is he's growing.
BABY JOHN
The trouble is he's grown.
ALL
Krupke, we got troubles of our own!
Gee, Officer Krupke,
We're down on our knees,
'Cause no one wants a fellow with a social disease.
Gee, Officer Krupke,
What are we to do?
Gee, Officer Krupke,
Krup you!
Music by Leonard Bernstein, lyrics by Stephen Sondheim.
© 1956, 1957 Amberson Holdings LLC and Stephen Sondheim. Copyright renewed.
Leonard Bernstein Music Publishing Company LLC, Publisher.
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Source:
http://www.westsidestory.com/lyrics_krupke.php
The Daily Express published on October 5th 2015:
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EXCLUSIVE: Michael Parr hints that Ross Barton will leave Emmerdale with Debbie Dingle
EMMERDALE actor Michael Parr has hinted that his bad boy character Ross Barton might exit the show with former lover Debbie Dingle (Charley Webb).
By Sarah Buchanan & Adam Miller
PUBLISHED: 21:25, Mon, Oct 5, 2015
UPDATED: 10:27, Tue, Oct 6, 2015
Soap fans will know that Debbie enjoyed a steamy sordid affair with her husband Pete's (Anthony Quinlan) brother Ross.
But now 29-year-old Michael has suggested that the pair could ride off into the sunset together.
Ross and Debbie's exit would coincide with 27-year-old actress Charley's maternity leave, as she is preparing to welcome her second child with fellow soap star Matthew Wolfenden in December.
Speaking exclusively to Express.co.uk at tonight's Inside Soap Awards 2015, Michael said: "Well, Charley's got a bun in the oven so she’s got to leave the show at some point and I might be leaving with her."
The Emmerdale heartthrob was cagey about admitting whether he had signed up for another year in the Yorkshire Dales.
"I can't say whether I've got a new contract or not," he said.
Speaking about how he kept his character's "back from the dead" storyline under wraps, Michael said he had to wear a disguise to make sure eagle-eyed fans wouldn't rumble him.
"I'm a sociopath," Michael said. "I was sneaking out of work and there's two fans who are obsessed with the show and they're always outside.
"So I'd have to go in, get dressed into my normal clothes then put on a coat and a hood and it was boiling. I was sweating all the way home."
Meanwhile, later this month fans are set to find out who shot Robert Sugden in a special flashback episode.
Lots of viewers think that Ross could have pulled the trigger, and Michael admitted he thinks his alter-ego is capable of murder.
"Yeah definitely, I think he's probably got a bit of the killer instinct in him," he said, before adding: "But what motivation does have shooting Robert?"
"I think it was Edna Birch (Shirley Stelfox) personally," Michael joked.
"She's a bit of a thug, she’s got that crazy dog and you’ve seen the way she dresses in those bad**s clothes and she sells drugs."
But is there any change of Ross reforming his villainous ways?
"I hope not," confessed Michael. "Because I like driving the cars and chasing the girls. I've got the perfect job at the moment so I wouldn't want it to change."
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Source:
http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...-Debbie-Dingle
Ross's CV is coming along very nicely for his next job after Emmerdale, I see. I'm sure I spotted new additions to 'Previous Experience' from recent filming for episodes in this coming/following week alone? Ross, you're going to burn out quick. You really need to slow down the work rate, believe me!
CV: Ross "Mad Puppy" Barton
New Previous Experience
Pub Chaos Organiser
Scrap Dealer
Baseball Player
Mr Muscle Strongman Circus Act Performer
Viaduct Works Technician
Aerial Display Team Member and Organiser
Assisted Suicide Negotiator
Pantomime Clown
Bare-knuckle Bar Disagreement Decider
Fight Organiser
Marriage Counsellor
Divorce Counsellor
Baby Sitter
General 'Odd' Job Man
New Specific Skills
Capable of rising from the dead at short notice a speciality
Able to fully fulfill entrance requirements for Bremmerdalemoor maximum security hospital facility by Christmas lunchtime 2015
Things are definitely building up for us all to be very happy for a Ross exit real soon.
Take my personal advice, Debbie. RUN!
Rossdale airs these scenes on weekdays from Monday 26th October from 7pm on ITV
Over the weekend Michael Parr posted a video on his Instagram featuring Joe Gill. It looks like a dressing room so he must still be found filming. Charlie Webb is still filming too.
Charley must finish filming in the next few weeks. Usually the actress gives birth at around the time that the character disappears off screen; they film about 2 months in advance. She's due in December.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossfan
Do you think Debs will take Moses with her when she leaves? When is Charity due back? I don't see her leaving Moses with Ross (that is if he doesn't go with her).
I think she'll want Charity to step up and take responsibility if she's back by then, but I'm not sure when that will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by JessicaMad
I think she's due to return this winter as it was in a winter preview a couple of months/weeks ago but it was very brief. This is from Metro UK:
The return of Charity
Charity is heading back – and let’s not forget what she said to Cain before she was sent down for a stretch inside. Cain and Moira are both fully aware that Charity will want her claws into her man – and they are ready for it so viewers can expect some fireworks.
Another person who will be affected by Charity’s comeback is Ross, who is now starting to bond with baby Moses. But how will they react to each other when they come face to face? And if Cain is off the table, who else could Charity set her eyes on?
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/06/emmerd...#ixzz3pcucBta7
i wanna see ross and debbie give a relationship a go, him mix with dingles like zak and cain prove his love for debbie win them over, bond more with moses and sarah and jack
i think robert will be told ross is his shooter maybe by pete or james, ive a feeling james and emma will discover ross is the real shooter but will they get aaron out
I tell you what Kate and Michael are geniuses. They expected all of this reaction:
He laughed: "I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'
"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...pscSfofHAWt4Dk
I think parr is overexposed his character Ross is unlikeable. It was stupid for the show to make him shoot Robert too predictable. Also it makes no sense for Ross to be the shooter he has no connection to Robert. By overexposure Parr the audience will turn on him he is not and should not be in this storyline.
Totally agree, he's a brilliant actor, don't get me wrong on that, but he's totally overused. And in regards to him and Debbie, it annoys me so much, along with his "my life is so hard and it's all Pete's fault, not down to the bad decisions I made" act.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serena Williams
Pete messed up when he attacked Ross, but with everything Ross has done that everyone knows about, why can Debbie just forget about all of that and forgive him but not even have the stomach to look at Pete?
Even Cain dislikes him and with everything Cain has done, thats saying something!
I agree that I would have liked someone in connection with Robert to be the shooter but that's not what they've done with the storyline. They've done a "Strangers on a train" take where the plot line is actually really clever because the alibi's are solid. Or should be if it wasn't for Andy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serena Williams
I agree that I would have liked someone in connection with Robert to be the shooter but that's not what they've done with the storyline. They've done a "Strangers on a train" take where the plot line is actually really clever because the alibi's are solid. Or should be if it wasn't for Andy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serena Williams
Andys always been brawn not brain!.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossfan
Perhaps thats why they involved Ross
in such a storyline as " strangers on train"
scenario.
Most of the other characters would
have better knowledge of Andys capabilities.
and be wary of having him.as an accomplice.
I presume Andy is involved because its his turn
for a storyline.
Ross is a newer character who disappears at
intervals so wouldnt know so much about
Andy.
The other more mundane reason for involving
Ross(apart from his popularity) may be
that he has quite a lot of episodes still to
fulfil on current contract?!
Soap Squawk's latest interview today from Michael Parr, 29, suggests Ross only really wants Debbie and doesn't really want the kids in tow and "slowing them down".
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He told SoapSquawk: “Ross wants to do good and he has got the affection for the kids and they relate to each other, but the practicality, now he has what he wants he is like ‘Is this it? Nappies?’
“He is not built that way so I can’t see it going too well. He just wants to be with Debbie and that’s it.
“He is very smitten with Debbie, but the kids are a bit of a burden, he is young and immature and he wants to be out all the time with her, but the kids are kind of slowing them down and getting in the way of their relationship.”
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Emmerdale’s Michael Parr: Ross is left holding the baby!
27/10/15
http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/emm...g-the-baby.php
I honestly don't know if I feel sorry for Ross or not. He was going on about how James neglected him, quite hypocritical considering he's only using his own son to get into Debbie's good books.
It is hypocritical but people copy their parentsQuote:
Originally Posted by JessicaMad
in some cases.- because they think the behavior
is acceptable. E.g. the abused become abusers.
I think if I was to feel sorry for Ross -it would
be because had the parents he did - as a child!
Michael parr is annoying and so are the writers.
I must say I don't like Ross as a character as much as I used to. That was before he got obsessed with Debbie.
Debbie and Pete should have stayed together-I don't understand Debbie at all. By her age and with her experieces you would have thought that she's learned something. Debbie has also come out as a victim in all this. As if she's never done anything wrong or bad..She was quite a bitch still few years ago. It was totally out of order for her to compare Pete to Cameron, but obviously sheused that just as an excuse to get rid of Pete.
Hopefully they'll make Pete really happy with someone(Vanessa? they would be great), Debbie's relationship with Ross is doomed to fail-I wouldn't trust him around my kids, but I would trust Pete. That tells something.
If Ross is not changing-I actually hope he goes. Wouldn't miss Debbie either.
I must say I don't like Ross as a character as much as I used to. That was before he got obsessed with Debbie.
Debbie and Pete should have stayed together-I don't understand Debbie at all. By her age and with her experieces you would have thought that she's learned something. Debbie has also come out as a victim in all this. As if she's never done anything wrong or bad..She was quite a bitch still few years ago. It was totally out of order for her to compare Pete to Cameron, but obviously sheused that just as an excuse to get rid of Pete.
Hopefully they'll make Pete really happy with someone(Vanessa? they would be great), Debbie's relationship with Ross is doomed to fail-I wouldn't trust him around my kids, but I would trust Pete. That tells something.
If Ross is not changing-I actually hope he goes. Wouldn't miss Debbie either.
I agree with a lot of your comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by mariba
Debbie hasnt really changed over the
years.
Neither Pete or Ross are fit to care for
children . Theyve had a terrible upbringing
and it shows.Some people overcome that-
others dont.
Ross is ok.as a bad boy - no worse than
others in ED or other soaps- just a lot
of actions close together.
But hes fickle and irresponsible and not
really interested- has softer moments but
children need more consistency than that.
Pete is seriously unstable and to me very
creepy/oily.. I.think in real life -he would ring
alarm bells!!
The most sensible thing Debbie has done
is bin him.Sometimes people do the right
thing for the wrong reason!
I do find it quite concerning than in all
soaps - when they want to rehabilitate
a character- they make them " nice"
to children for a short spell.
It sets a pattern of what's acceptable
and it isnt really.Children deserve better
than.that.!
I found the Thursday October 29th episode to be very telling when Sarah (10yo) reacted badly to finding out that Ross had moved in. I watched her act up and thought ("She doesn't like him. I don't either since he died!"). Even Jack (3yo) tried a Harry Potter wand spell to magic Ross away. It didn't work (worse luck!) but I'd award five nursery wizard's school stars to Jack trying hard at this at 3yo before Hogwarts enrolment is due.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuyoFJWsAAIIlT.jpg
© ITV
Sarah tells Jack it's time to go to somewhere safe upstairs and far away from He who must not be named...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuyn9RWwAAGRRC.jpg
© ITV
Junior wizard Jack needs more practice to make Ross disappear and make everyone very happy...
Children of Sarah and Jack's ages can be very "knowing" about people. They naturally stare at people, I think it's some sort of young animal instinct most or all children have up to a certain age. After then they learn from adults that it's rude and bad manners to stare at people. This is why children's reactions to other people can be so much better to judge these people by (particularly when they are strangers) than an adult's perception of them. Basically, what I think Sarah and Jack were being largely non-verbal about was that they found Ross uncomfortable to be around inside their family living space.
I suspect that this scene on October 29th with Sarah and Jack may be the subtle start of Debbie's exit storyline?
Sarah's reaction to Ross suddenly in her home last week was very unusual for Sarah about one of Debbie's boyfriends. Previous history for Sarah shows that she loved Cameron when Debbie met him in Jersey around 2010. Cameron later married Debbie, of course, but by then Debbie had already shown her bad relationship decision ability with previous boyfriends, not least of whom was ex-Andy. Debbie left Emmerdale in her last scene on Friday 12th March 2010, taking Sarah with her, and did not return to Emmerdale until November 2010, 8 months later. This, of course, tied in with the actor's maternity leave for Buster, Charley Webb's baby (born on 04/04/10). If this timing follows through for Charley Webb's latest baby, due round December 2015, then even at a birthdate of 31/12/15, we should have expected Charley Webb to have completed Emmerdale filming 2 weeks ago already, so that Debbie's last TV scenes should be aired at latest by 26th November 2015? Sarah also loves Pete, who Debbie married in August 2015. So for Sarah to not want new boyfriend Ross in the family house during October 2015 is extremely unusual for her and indicates that Ross will never marry Debbie?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuynx4WIAA9c_v.jpg
© ITV
Debbie wonders if it was such a good idea...
to ask Ross to move in the day before...
For whatever reason(s) that Debbie leaves Emmerdale (and let's be honest, I guess that it's going to be for somewhere between 6-12 months maternity leave, assuming Debbie returns to Emmerdale), I suspect that Andy or Cain or both will blame scally Ross for making Debbie leave the village and to want him out of it by one violent or non-violent way or another?
I really think that Ross is in a terrible TV viewer position right now. His recent Emmerdale storylines have been just awful, I reckon. The UK public and many former fans (me too!) have switched to hating him and there really doesn't seem to be any way back for now. Ross has simply become a horrible single wanting chavvy scal character who is just too toxic for Emmerdale and its residents, at least up to Tuesday October 24th 2015, even beyond.
After last Tuesday's viaduct scene with Pete ended, Ross has since toned things down a lot for now. He has what he thought he wanted by getting Debbie back, and even moved in with her, but I don't think this is a stable situation at all. I wrote here in another thread earlier (28/10/15) about how Ross is "like a child who wants to want". Well he may now find that Debbie and her own kids are not what he wants or what will make him happy but that he will deny it to himself in delusion?
On Tuesday (3/11/15) in the pub, Nikhil blames Debbie for Gennie's death. Ross overhears and punches Nikhil on impulse. Duncan Lindsay in the Metro (30/10/15) wrote "Debbie is less than impressed with his outburst." I think that this scene will add to Debbie's growing doubts that Ross is going to be suitable for her and her kids. A gap between Debbie and Ross may now start to grow and set up Ross to becoming more possessive and potentially threatening towards Debbie and her kids in a while, in a cycle of affection and rejection?
Mike Parr gave a recent interview about his recent villainy with Pete and Robert, etc, and said about viewers' reactions "I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again. There was a point where I thought, 'It doesn't matter what I do at the minute, everybody seems to just be cheering for Ross'. Hopefully this will push them away and remind people I am meant to be a villain, so maybe I was doing my job wrong before!"
I totally disagree with these actor comments. He was doing the job totally right for myself and many others before Pete fought with him outside Hotton Hospital, as the very unhappy reactions of his fans proved when Ross "died" then in August 2015. The storylines since then have not done Ross any favours and it really looks to me as if Ross has now already jumped off a cliff but doesn't realise this or that the only way is down. We know from spoilers and film set leaks that Ross is around for some time yet, but there is going to be a new Series Producer from January 2016 in Iain MacLeod. Will he pick up on the latest very negative feelings of viewers towards the Ross character and change everything for Ross's future or just dump him as a complete soap show liability in due course? Time will tell on this. On a more positive note, it looks for now like we're all really going to be getting a kipper for tea in a while or so... So long and farewell, Ross, hopefully real soon. (And good riddance!).
Sources:
Sarah Sugden biography at:
http://emmerdale.wikia.com/wiki/Sarah_Sugden_Jr.
Jack Sugden biography at:
http://emmerdale.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Sugden_Jr.
Debbie Dingle biography at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Dingle
Emmerdale 29th October 2015 Full Episode HD video at:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3b...-episode-hd_tv
How "Ross is like a child who wants to want", soapboards post on 28/10/15 at:
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/s...976#post833976
Metro Emmerdale spoilers for 2-6/11/15 (published 30/10/15) at:
http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/25-soa...agedy-5467389/
Mike Parr interview for Digital Spy (published 22/10/15) at:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...-numbered.html
I don't really agree with your post. And it wouldn't be good riddance for me.
Yes Ross Isn't being nice right now and doesn't think before lashing out. The storylines aren't doing him any favours just now but that doesn't mean to say it won't change in a few weeks. And even still I don't think the backlash as is big as what is being made out either. Either way people are talking a lot about Ross and that is the point. We still get little moments with Ross and that was proved last week. He did apologise to Pete. I don't think he is rubbing it in his face about Debbie this time. I genuinely believe he didn't think they were going to be back together. He was nice with his scenes with April. He tried to make things easier for Pete with the Police. He is trying to sort his life out now and put things behind him. Like what has been said in other posts. Other characters have done bad stuff and are still on the show. Bad spells shouldn't mean the axe just because you don't like them. The producer may decide he doesn't like him and that would be his choice. But Mike has won awards and gets nominated for awards and recent big events has seen his character trending. Summer fate and Who shot Robert. And not to mention the petition. He has a big following. I don't think it would be fair for a producer to come in and axe him just because of a few negative comments. I think the positives outway the negatives on this issue. Characters like Jai and Emma get way more negative comments
I agree. As i posted earlier in the thread. Michael and Kate Oakes knew that there was going to be a reaction from Ross' recent storylines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalesfan
In an a interview Michael says this:
He laughed: "I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'
"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...pscSfofHAWt4Dk
I agree. As i posted earlier in the thread. Michael and Kate Oakes knew that there was going to be a reaction from Ross' recent storylines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalesfan
In an a interview Michael says this:
He laughed: "I am going to have all the 'Robron' fans going, 'I can't believe you have done this!' Then I will have all the Ross fans that go, 'Yeah, it's Ross on screen!'
"I am expecting there to be lots of backlash, which I really love. I like to pull them in doing the affectionate scenes, then it's nice to push them away again.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s1...pscSfofHAWt4Dk
sorry dup!
And they are right because it seems it is a lot of Robron fans that are doing the complaining. From what I have seen anyway. Not talking about on here but elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossfan
Rightly so maybe but it's not like Aaron and Robert are little angels :D
That is correct -and theres quite a few othersQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalesfan
on ED who have been as bad/worse over the
years!!
I don't think anyone believes Robron are angel's or completely innocent to be fair perhaps some of us are feeling protective & Aaron being in prison is just about more upsetting than what happened to Robert! I feel some of the frustration is that Ross has hijacked their story line for the moment plus frustration is there due to the lack of screen time for Robron in recent months and Ross is taking the brunt of that due to being involved is so many of the big plots this year & Robron fans (which I am one) really wanted this shooting to be about Robert, - his comeuppance. It's softened the blow a bit that Andy was involved too that brings it back to their feud, I just feel there was no need for it to be all about Ross this time.
I feel Ross does work well as a villain type character, I'd rather he was an out and out villain then someone who hides is true self under a mask of false victim hood. I don't necessarily want him to leave, he just doesn't work as a domesticated type in homely bliss with Debbie with whom it just doesn't seem he has screen chemistry with, I could see him getting bored with her and felt he manly wanted her manly due to Pete having her, like wanting to break his brothers favourite toy or something due to petty jealously & insecurity. The reality could be difficult for him, being responsible doing school runs, baby sitting etc. If Ross were to lose interest in her Debbie & her kids could be in danger from him with his antics and given Debbie's history she should have learned to have better judgement by now.
It's more the double standards I have seen. That when Aaron gets out then him, Robert and Cain should all join forces to get rid off Ross etc. Those fans are happy for that to happen but when it's against Robron then all hell breaks lose. And again they are happy for Robert to go unpunished for what he has done but Ross must be punished for what he done.
I get that they are annoyed with the storyline. Trust me I am just as annoyed that Ross was made the shooter. There was no need for it. The problem some Robron fans is that some are so focussed on them becoming an item and living happy ever after that they are going to be disappointed whatever happens. They want them to be on screen together all the time. I get that when you ship something then that's what you want but you have to look at the bigger picture. And that brings me to your next point. I would love to see Ross act like the family man and live happy ever after with someone he loves etc but I know deep down it is never going to happen. Ross obviously has deep issues and I don't think it's fair to say that it's all false. It can't be easy knowing that your mum tried to kill you when young. It's going to affect you. He may not be wired to do the whole family thing. But surely he is allowed the chance. Just because he has issues doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to have a chance to settle down. Only he can mess it up. I do think he does care about Debbie and it isn't just because she had Pete. But they haven't really had the long term thing and that is when it will be tested. The whole kids thing aswell wont be easy for him. Charley going on Maternity means it probably wont end well but Robron fans know Aaron is going to get out eventually. Probably sooner rather than later And I bet you Aaron, Ross and Robert will all have stuff in the future and the who shot Robert thing will be swept under the carpet
What mostly annoys me about Ross and Debbie is the contradiction...
Debbie left Pete because he thought he killed Ross and it made her think he was just like Cameron. Ok, fair enough.
However, with everything Ross has done since being in Emmerdale and Debbie knowing about how Ross premeditated his attempts at killing Pete, I don't get how she can justify having him move in?
I know she was always more attracted to Ross than Pete, but she needs to sort out how she judges people. Ross is bloody attractive, but would I have someone like that around my kids if I had any? No way