The Official MCSK Spoiler Thread

The MCSK
-Traumatic childhood
-Mental disorders
-Stalks/watches victims: Each crime scene has big windows, is that how the killer does it?
- Has intimate knowledge of each victim.
-Possible careers discussed: Real Estate Agent, Delivery Person, Utilities, Construction, Cleaner
-Dell foster child?
-In control of their actions, but not their compulsions. Actions = dioramas, Compulsions = killing people
-Described by Dr. Tallman as exhibiting signs of OCD and antisocial personality disorder. Different from other killers. Conceives and visualizes crimes, compresses the horror from their imagination and represents it in the miniatures. Miniatures = Repressed Rage. (Tallman interview in MiaB)
- The murders are just a means to an end. The end -- the goal, the pièce de résistance, is the miniature model.
- The victims constitute a web of connections, of human relationships, of pasts; the center of this web is the MCSK.

Canon facts:
-Ernie Dell's molds were used to create at least the Izzy Delancey miniature
-Four victims so far: Izzy Delancey, Raymundo Suarez, Penny Garden, Officer Kamen. Barbara Tallman was killed by her brother despite receiving a miniature of her house. Does she count? We've debated whether or not the MCSK intended to kill both victims. The diorama makes it seem like they did intend to kill two people.
-Every miniature contains a picture of Sally. The Tallman miniature contained more than one (One original as well as past pictures of Sally), as well as a message to Grissom. (You were wrong).
-Izzy Delancey, Ernie Dell, and Raymundo Suarez all had ties to the Mannleigh Chicken Plant.
-Grissom and Sara have worked every single MCSK, with others helping randomly, and on the periphery.
--Sara has been shown near and/or around the box in Grissom's office on three separate occasions, to the exclusion of anyone else being shown with the minis besides Keppler.

Sally:
-The doll pictured in all of the miniature crime scenes.
-Obvious head wound, always appears laying down as if dead or severely injured.
- it is either symbolic or a representation of what happened : Sally is either a symbol (broken childhood) or the reenactment of a specific event (the death of somebody close to the MCSK, a crime, etc.)

Bleach:
-Present at the Delancey, Suarez (in the SD's), and Tallman scenes.
-Hodges told Sara that when cleaning dirty laundry you should use Bleach.

Possible Suspects:
-Unsub (unknown foster, Sara’s brother, janitor)
-Lady Heather
-Hodges
-Dr. Lurie
-Phillip Gerard
- Nick
- Ecklie
- Sophia

Ruled Out:
-Paul Milander (he's dead)

Motive and speculation:
-The Seven Deadly sins? There are quite a few posts that illustrate which victims could represent what.
-Correcting an injustice?
-Revenge?
-Heavy speculation and agreement that the dioramas are the most important part of the crimes. They're the killer’s way of communicating with the CSI's. They are perfect representations of the crime scene. The killers idea of perfection?
-Strong arguments for Hodges being the MCSK
-Strong arguments for Hodges being a red herring

Still don't like Hodges for it. And rapidly going of LH too at the mo....:hmm: Need to scratch the grey matter...

I went all day without reading this thread :lol:.

I want to remain free from who the killer is at the end. But I do like reading all the speculation :lol:.

I'm with Ems about Hodges. Also don't think it's Nick personally. I like the thought of Ecklie.. :hmm:

Sophia? I've heard a weird spec about that.. being that she's played by Louise Lombard.. and all the episodes that have had the MCSK in, have started with L :lol:. But I think personally, that person was looking too hard? I don't think it is Sophia. Would they bring her into the credits, only to take her out again? :hmm: Maybe. Is she leaving??

Who's Phillip Gerard and Dr. Lurie?

Erm.. can I be a pain and ask.. if anyone does find out who it is (at any point), to put it in spoiler tags with a warning that it's who it actually is? So I can be warned not to look/read the rest of the thread. :lol:. I still want to see all the spec though.. :o

It can't be hodges he's too sweet to be a killer, but I'm convinced its someone we have seen before on CSI. I'm undecided between LH and Dr Lurie, but at the moment I am going to go for Lurie because whoever the killer is has to have an eye for detail and a great deal of patients to make those minature crime scenes. When Lurie was accused of killing the nurse that looked like Sara and her boyfriend, the killer had taken his time cutting her boyfriends body up and disposing of it. That took a great deal of time and dedication to do that. I'm dying to find out who it is but I don't want to read the spoilers for it aarrrrggghhh.

Lea: Dr Laurie was the doctor who was accused of killing his girlfriend Debbie Marlin, who looked like Sara in the episode Butterflies in series 4 and Philip Gerard was Grissom mentor when he was first a CSI but he was the one that told grissom about Sara dating Hank the paramedic.

just found this

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For those of you who haven't heard yet, the miniature killer will return in the season finale of CSI and Sara will mysteriously disappear, suddenly forcing her relationship with Grissom out in the open.

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we really need a new smily to say how excited we are lol

I thought id change the name of this thread as its getting closer to the ending and when its finally shown we can post here as people like lea might not want to know who it is and wouldnt be able to read the normal thread.

Alot of the websites i usually get my spoilers from and im sure the same goes for both of the em's are actully refusing to post spoilers about this because of the size of the storyline!!!

another "spoiler" for the finale

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OK guys, I have season finale scoop. And so far, it sounds like another Way to go. or not to go, as I put it.

My sources in the staff put it:

there will be GSR scenes; at least one will make the GSR fans squee like mad, then there's one that will piss them off like mad.

There is something carried over from 723. It's not huge, but it's some continuity.

I don't have an episode title, but I will soon.


I believe David Rambo has something to do with the episode.

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and this....

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A lot of people are asking if Sara's fate will be the S7 cliffhanger -- the answer is no.

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Have also got this:

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CSI -- The "miniature killer's" identity is revealed. As the CSI team tries to track down this diabolical murderer, Sara (Jorja Fox) mysteriously goes missing -- and Grissom (William Petersen) and Sara's relationship is suddenly forced out into the open.

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I did find out that the writes had said that Grissom/Sara fans would be pleased at the outcome, but then, with no news on whether Jorja has renewed, and with the scripts being changed constantly to try and avoid major leaks, who knows what the outcome will be.

But with Sara's fate not being a Season 7 cliffhanger.....all in total suspense waiting for this one!!

im dying to find out what the name of the episode - it must give alot away for them to keep it a secret like this - they didnt even do this with grave danger!!!!

Sounds like it doesn't it!!!

The thing I'm thinking though - if Grissom and Sara's relationship comes out into the open, what is that going to mean for the dynamics of the team?! As they won't be able to work as supervisor and level three csi now, especially if Ecklie knows about it (if he doesn't already that is lol)

Although the Sara bit is solved before the end, its like - omg whats going to happen!!! lol