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shannisrules
05-06-2005, 15:17
hi isent johnny allen supposed to be a gangster evil type of person because from what they have shown of him so far he seems really nice to me, i thought they sacked andy hunter for being to Nice but johnny seems much more nicer than andy ever was.



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Treacle
05-06-2005, 15:52
No, he's supposed to be old-skool. Kind of like a gangster but not really a nasty one like Andy was.

callummc
05-06-2005, 16:00
Not really nasty ,don't make me laugh,the man commited cold blooded murder 3 moths ago,how more nasty can you get.

ameliauk1
05-06-2005, 16:21
im confused myself about this johnny character i thought eastenders were trying to steer away from the gangster thing , i no they got rid of andy and den and are getting rid of danny but we now have johnny, dennis, jake all left.

xxx
amelia

di marco
05-06-2005, 16:22
i wouldnt describe dennis as a gangster

Treacle
05-06-2005, 16:24
Dennis and Jake don't really count, they can be used in many different ways.

Johnny is more retired now.

~Sooz~
05-06-2005, 16:54
I started a threat yesterday about Johnny along the same lines - are EE just trying to show us the other side to Johnny, the family side, before we see more of the "gangster" side again.

Treacle
05-06-2005, 17:06
I think he's in retirement though, he seems to respect the community.

squarelady
05-06-2005, 17:56
I don't think he's a ganster...I have my reasons but I'm on the phone so I'll type them up late one! :D

.:Kitz:.
05-06-2005, 18:05
I think he's in retirement though, he seems to respect the community.Yeah, i don't think he's a gangster and he was being really nice to Dot and Jim about rent of something

Bryan
05-06-2005, 18:32
people dent like the gangster cus they were so one sided...pure evil no good

jonny is different as they are showing a different side to gangsters, and that adds someting to his character

i agree, they are showiung his sensative side so as we'll be shocked when he becomes evil after the fire...

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squarelady
05-06-2005, 21:04
I don't think he is a gangster but he's not cold hearted. He showed remorse for Andy's murder more than once.

Johnny Allen
05-06-2005, 22:35
Gangsters can have caring sides take The Godfather for example family meant everything to Don Corleone, so maybe eastenders are just showing that side to Johnny, but we also know he is a ruthless killer after all he pushed Andy of the bridge. As far as Danny and Jake are concerned they are NOT Gangsters, I dont find them very villianous at all, Dennis is no Gangster , I know he shot Dalton but he is no gangster nor is Den, as to whether Johnny Allen is I would say yes, he's very much old-school.

squarelady
05-06-2005, 22:51
*nods in agreement with Johnny Allen* <--- the member! :lol:
I agree with you, spot on! :D

melanielovesdennisrickman
06-06-2005, 07:32
Hiya!!!!!
I do think that Johnny Allen is a real gangster,look at what he did to Andy,LOL!!!!!
But he also has a nice side,as we have seen in the last couple of weeks!!!!!

Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:

squarelady
06-06-2005, 14:46
Hiya!!!!!
I do think that Johnny Allen is a real gangster,look at what he did to Andy,LOL!!!!!
But he also has a nice side,as we have seen in the last couple of weeks!!!!!

Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:

I think Andy set fire to his house though so I think it's fair! (In that sort of world anyway, I wouldn't go round doing it myself!)

Siobhan
06-06-2005, 14:49
Hiya!!!!!
I do think that Johnny Allen is a real gangster,look at what he did to Andy,LOL!!!!!
But he also has a nice side,as we have seen in the last couple of weeks!!!!!

Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:

that is the thing with Gangsters.. they have true affection for their family and will only be rough when it gets personal.. Andy lacked that nice side and it is a reason he was not believable

Siobhan
06-06-2005, 14:50
I think Andy set fire to his house though so I think it's fair! (In that sort of world anyway, I wouldn't go round doing it myself!)

Andy didn't... he just double crossed Johnny on a deal.. Andy was also nasty to Alfie and Johnny didn't like that at all...

squarelady
06-06-2005, 14:51
Andy didn't... he just double crossed Johnny on a deal.. Andy was also nasty to Alfie and Johnny didn't like that at all...

How do you know he didn't? - You really think Johnny's that cold hearted? I don't!

Siobhan
06-06-2005, 14:54
How do you know he didn't? - You really think Johnny's that cold hearted? I don't!

I don't.. you are right but I can't see it some how

squarelady
06-06-2005, 15:01
I don't.. you are right but I can't see it some how

Well he had a history with Andy and Andy was his rival so it's easily understandable he could have been mixed up with Jack Dalton. We'll know even more when Dennis comes back.

dddMac1
06-06-2005, 15:14
i think Johnny allen wants to move on from been a Gangster

squarelady
06-06-2005, 16:19
i think Johnny allen wants to move on from been a Gangster

Me too, but I don't think he'll get the chance!

dddMac1
06-06-2005, 16:21
yea since Phil Grant and peggy are coming back

Carrie Bradshaw
06-06-2005, 16:41
hi isent johnny allen supposed to be a gangster evil type of person because from what they have shown of him so far he seems really nice to me, i thought they sacked andy hunter for being to Nice but johnny seems much more nicer than andy ever was.

They sacked Andy Hunter for being too NICE?!? Could Andy have been any more evil?

di marco
06-06-2005, 16:43
They sacked Andy Hunter for being too NICE?!? Could Andy have been any more evil?

i thought they sacked him cos there was too many gangsters?

squarelady
06-06-2005, 16:47
They sacked Andy Hunter for being too NICE?!? Could Andy have been any more evil?

Maybe he really got sacked because he didn't do the job well enough. Johnny lived to tell the tale!

Siobhan
06-06-2005, 16:56
They sacked Andy Hunter for being too NICE?!? Could Andy have been any more evil?

I think they didn't show enough of Andy's nice side on the show but in general he didn't really have a hard gangster look about him... he look too innocent.. Johnny has the hardman look about him as do Phil, Grant and Den.. Andy never had that look and he was the only one that EE didn't show a nice side too...