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Perdita
04-05-2009, 14:10
A UK human rights lawyer has flown to Laos to assist a pregnant Briton who faces possible death by firing squad, if convicted of drug smuggling.

Prosecutors say Samantha Orobator, 20, of London, was in possession of 1.5lb (680g) of heroin when she was arrested at Wattay airport, Laos, last August.

Her trial has been brought forward and is due to start this week.

Legal charity Reprieve said its lawyer, Anna Morris, has been given permission to see Miss Orabator on Tuesday.

Miss Orobator has been held at Phonthong prison in the east Asian country since last August.

She became pregnant in the prison in December and is due to give birth in September.

Reprieve says authorities in Laos have brought the trial forward a year to avoid her having proper legal representation.

Reprieve says the decision to reschedule the trial was only taken after arrangements were made for her to see a lawyer for the first time.

The charity said she managed to make contact with their London office on Sunday and said she had been told the trial would start on Monday morning.

Ms Morris flew into the country on Sunday after permission was granted to meet Miss Orobator on Tuesday.

Ms Morris told the BBC: "Things are moving quickly. We found out only this morning that the trial wasn't going to take place today [Monday], but we still have no more information as to when it will take place.

"We're very keen to receive confirmation from the Lao authorities as to what is going to happen this week and when.

"We are of course concerned, given that the prison conditions are well documented, we are concerned for her welfare, and we are concerned for the sort of nutrition she's receiving, but we'll know more once we've seen her.

"But at this point we can certainly say that we're very concerned."

In Laos, anyone caught with more than 1lb (500g) of heroin faces a mandatory death sentence.

At least 39 people have been sentenced to death in Laos since 2003.

Reprieve director Clive Stafford Smith said of the pregnant Briton: "There can hardly be a circumstance where scheduling a capital trial is less appropriate.

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) said British Embassy officials, including the Ambassador, have visited Miss Orobator a total of six times since her arrest.

Jane Orobator says she is scared about her daughter's situation
British officials said these visits had been limited to a period of about 20 minutes once a month.

There is no British Embassy in Laos and the nearest is in the Thai capital, Bangkok. The Foreign Office only learned of her arrest when Australian authorities passed on information from another prison inmate.

The FCO reiterated the government's opposition to the death penalty "in all circumstances".

An FCO spokesman said: "In cases where a British national faces charges that carry the death penalty or has been sentenced to death, we make representations at whatever stage and level is deemed appropriate.

"We take every opportunity to make representations to the Lao authorities about our opposition to the death penalty."

Miss Orobator was born in Nigeria and lived in south London from the age of eight. Her father lives in Nigeria and her mother and three sisters live in the Irish Republic.

She had been on holiday in Thailand and the Netherlands before travelling to Laos.

Her mother Jane Orobator said she was "so scared" about her daughter's situation.

"I'm just appealing to the British government, to the Laos authorities, to just please release her. They should just bring her back to me."

Mrs Orobator added that she has no idea why her daughter was in Laos.

Mrs Orobator last heard from her daughter in July, when she was on holiday in Holland.

:eek: Hope they can save her life and that of the baby. Was she raped by a prison guard to fall pregnant?

miccisy
04-05-2009, 16:27
Not tryin to be nasty but other countries have different things to us. If she was found with drugs then at the end of the day she has to face the consequences. Yes the death sentance is a bit stupid but that is what they do in that country and obviously if she hadnt have broken the law she wouldnt be in the situation she is in.

Although i do think it is weird how she got pregnant in prison.

alan45
04-05-2009, 20:08
Call me hard hearted but I have no sympathy for her.

Pinkbanana
04-05-2009, 20:18
If she was found with drugs then at the end of the day she has to face the consequences.

Although i do think it is weird how she got pregnant in prison.

At the end of the day she was found with drugs on her... and thinking of all the damage drugs can do to people, she should face some punishment... but the death penalty??? Not sure about that... I personally couldn't condemn someone to death.

I agree about her becoming pregnant in jail.... I heard on the news, that there were some serious concerns about the circumstances surrounding her pregnancy... she is in afterall one of the 'roughest' prisons in the world...

Siobhan
05-05-2009, 11:40
Call me hard hearted but I have no sympathy for her.

Me either.. if she was smuggling drugs then she should have known what would happen if caught. I am concerned about how she became pregnant in prison but she should be punished for her crime

Chloe O'brien
05-05-2009, 12:04
I am against the death penalty but if she was smuggling drugs then she should serve her sentance in that country. You would have to be living on planet mars to know that coutries like Thiland have strict laws against crimes like drug trafficking. If you can't do the time don't comit the crime.

Perdita
05-05-2009, 12:06
So far, I have not found out how the drugs got into her luggage, whether she knew they were there or not, they might have been planted on her. And I agree with her needing to be punished if she was smuggling, but to shoot her is wrong, and I am concerned how she got pregnant.

Abigail
07-05-2009, 23:14
To shoot her while she's pregnant is wrong. She committed a crime in another country, she should face the penalty there. I don't agree with the dealth penalty on the whole but it's common knowledge that countries in the region have very tough punishments for crimes.

Seriously though, you don't get 1.5lb of class A drugs in your luggage and not know about it.

StarsOfCCTV
08-05-2009, 00:17
She could have been forced to?

Saying that, smuggling drugs is stupid and if she did this voluntarily then she should be punished. However I do not agree with the death penalty at all.

But serious questions need to be raised over how she got pregnant. Probability is she was raped - is the person who did this to her being punished? (If not, this is a very hypocritical system) Is this why she is being refused a lawyer?

And what is going to happen to the baby when it is born?

Chloe O'brien
08-05-2009, 23:07
I don't know what they would do with the baby. Over here if a mother is in Jail while pregnant the child is taken into care or given to relatives to watch but the authorties are being very quiet on how she got pregnant.

Perdita
10-05-2009, 06:31
A pregnant British woman arrested for heroin-smuggling in Laos has been told she must testify in court that she was not raped in prison in order to escape the firing squad.

Samantha Orobator, who is five months pregnant, was arrested in August at Wattay airport in the capital Vientiane for trying to smuggle 1.5lb of heroin.
The 20-year-old from South London goes on trial this week and will be asked to declare publicly that she was not raped in Phonthong prison, one of Asia’s most squalid jails.

If Orobator co-operates, she will be transferred from Laos to a UK prison under a new treaty signed between the two countries on Thursday, but if not, her trial will be postponed and she will return to jail in Laos.

If she faces trial again after the birth of her child, she will not have the immunity from execution that pregnancy gives her under the Laos penal code.

A Laos government spokesman, Kenthong Nuanthasing, said: ‘She will tell the court, otherwise she will stay here. Nobody can guarantee that she will not face the firing squad.’

Laos’s leaders are sensitive to suggestions that Orobator might have been raped in jail and appear to be using her trial to try to quash the allegation.

‘We don’t want the outside world to blame us,’ Nuanthasing added.

Asked who fathered the baby, Nuanthasing said: ‘It is a mystery – maybe it is a baby from the sky.’

Orobator has already written a letter declaring she was not raped and that she had not had sex while in prison, The Mail on Sunday has learned.

Although officials claim Phonthong prison is a women-only jail with female guards, staff there said it had male and female guards and separate male and female blocks.

A French former inmate who spent five months there in the Nineties said: ‘Female prisoners were coerced into sex with promises from guards that they would get them off the death penalty, get them a shorter sentence or make life inside more comfortable for them.’

Human rights lawyer Anna Morris flew to Vientiane last week to represent Orobator but has so far been refused permission to see her.

From Mail on Sunday

StarsOfCCTV
10-05-2009, 12:10
A pregnant British woman arrested for heroin-smuggling in Laos has been told she must testify in court that she was not raped in prison in order to escape the firing squad.

Laos’s leaders are sensitive to suggestions that Orobator might have been raped in jail and appear to be using her trial to try to quash the allegation.

‘We don’t want the outside world to blame us,’ Nuanthasing added.

Asked who fathered the baby, Nuanthasing said: ‘It is a mystery – maybe it is a baby from the sky.’


Oh what does he think a stork came and planted it there. :rolleyes: How can the outside world not blame them this must be damaging their international relations, how can they claim to have a justice system if they are making her do that it is just showing how corrupt they are. They should investigate how she got pregnant not cover it up. I guess the lawyer is being refused so she can't speak to her about it.

Abigail
10-05-2009, 14:30
I'd take the deal. She might get life for the crime here in the UK but it's a damn sight better than having her child grow up without a mother and father.

Maybe her lawyer or the UK government can do some investigating once she's back in this country into how she got pregnant.

Chloe O'brien
12-05-2009, 23:35
Well if anyone has any ideas about smuggling drugs abroad thinking they are going to get away with it this should be a deterant that other countries are not as easy on drug smugglers as we are in the UK. She has to take the deal it's her only choice of getting out of the country alive.

Perdita
03-06-2009, 15:06
A pregnant British woman accused of smuggling heroin has been found guilty in Laos and sentenced to life in jail.

Samantha Orobator, 20, from south London, was caught with 1.5lb (680g) of the drug at Wattay airport in the capital, Vientiane, last August.

Her trial had been delayed while Laotian officials tried to find out how she became pregnant in prison.

She would have faced a mandatory death sentence, but the execution of pregnant prisoners is not allowed in Laos.

The court took only three hours to reach its verdict, and during questioning by the prosecution and the three judges, Orobator admitted to carrying more than half a kilogram of heroin in an effort to try and take it out of the country to Australia.

Pregnant in prison

Orobator's mother was in court. She did not say anything, nor did Orobator as she was taken back to prison. British officials have applied to see her to ask what she wants to do next.

The UK has recently signed a prisoner transfer agreement with Laos, which means Orobator could serve any potential sentence in a British jail.

She has 21 days to appeal against the sentence. If she applies for a transfer, she may see out much if not all of her sentence in the UK.

A Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) spokesman said officials would soon be in touch with her to discuss what she wants to do next.

The spokesman told the BBC: "We will be discussing with Samantha if she wants to apply for a transfer. There is a prisoner transfer agreement; it will be up to her."

He said he was unable to say whether Orobator would be transferred back to the UK before the start of the third trimester of her pregnancy on 6 June - as has been called for by British human rights charity Reprieve.

Orobator has been held for nine months in Phongthong prison, where she reportedly became pregnant in December.

Reprieve has called for her to be returned to the UK before the final stages of her pregnancy.

In response to the verdict, a Reprieve spokeswoman told the BBC: "We're relieved that she's had her trial and we are keen that the British government brings her home to the UK.

"Above all we're concerned about her health and the health of her unborn child."

The spokeswoman added that she hoped the transfer would happen in about two weeks.

"There's no real reason for delay," she said.

BBC News

At least she has escaped the death sentence