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TROUBLED teen Danielle Jones is devastated when Ronnie Mitchell advises her to have an abortion.
Ice queen Ronnie (Samantha Janus, 36) is still clueless to the fact that the girl is the daughter she was forced to give up.
Danielle (Lauren Crace, 22) is mortified to hear that falling pregnant so young is her mum’s biggest regret.
She is then forced to sleep rough after a fall-out with her pal Stacey Branning (Lacey Turner, 20).
Is Danielle really pregnant or wanting to see Ronnie's reaction? :hmm:
When is Ronnie going to find out Danielle is her daughter? This has been dragging for ages, I wish it would all come out.
I know! Im surprised it didnt come out at xmas! It was the perfect time to as well
sindydoll
07-01-2009, 21:53
its getting blinking boring! and when she does find out istead of it been exciting were all goin to say THANK GOD :lol:
i agree, it has dragged on far too long. Danielle just irritates me.
I agree with all of you, it is time that this storyline got out in the open. Is this Paul guy the one that got Danielle pregnant perhaps?
I agree with all of you, it is time that this storyline got out in the open. Is this Paul guy the one that got Danielle pregnant perhaps?
Yeah it is..it was in the spoiler for next week or the week after
Not had the time to catch up on spoilers and missed last weekend's omnibus and all of this week so far, so don't know how 'friendly' she has been with him. Thanks for the update :)
tammyy2j
08-01-2009, 12:47
I really hope it comes out soon
sindydoll
08-01-2009, 14:16
just been reading the article about them in 'inside soap mag. and it says at the end danielles not going to reveal the truth until its the perfect time to do so and it doesn't look like that'll be anytime soon :(
just been reading the article about them in 'inside soap mag. and it says at the end danielles not going to reveal the truth until its the perfect time to do so and it doesn't look like that'll be anytime soon :(
when is the perfect time to reveal something like that!?
Its like she wants to be best friends with her and then be like oh by the way-your my mum
Like thats gonna make it better!
Silly girl
DaVeyWaVey
08-01-2009, 22:02
I just want to give Danielle a hug. I feel so sorry for her - she just comes across as being so vulnerable and naive.
Bad Wolf
08-01-2009, 22:28
i want her to tell ronnie who she is then ronnie can go all kat slater and kick off on everyone who hurt her daughter
DaVeyWaVey
08-01-2009, 22:31
Ronnie: You ain't my daughter!
Danielle: Yes I am!
*dum dum*
:D
Bad Wolf
08-01-2009, 22:47
Ronnie: You ain't my daughter!
Danielle: Yes I am!
*dum dum*
:D
thats what im talking about!!!!!!
yeah just for it to come out it would be soo much better than whats happening at the minute.
When did they hate each other so much.
Yeah after all this it better come out at a really good time
Well a good time in soaps is always in a bad situation :p
sindydoll
09-01-2009, 22:38
so why is this going to drag on forever :wall:
Chris_2k11
09-01-2009, 23:10
I agree with everyone else, its got to the point where its dragging now. I hope its out by next month
Welshwizard
11-01-2009, 21:03
I don`t know why people are complaining about this storyline dragging on so long . If this was all over in a matter of weeks from start to finish there woulldbe people saying this is over too soon . You just can`t win either way . Anyway if Friday`s edition is anything to go by then I say more of the same . Both character`s interact around each other brilliantly , what bothers me alot about this is on some forums people keep going on about that Lauren Crace is such a rubbish actress , they seem to get mixed up between real life and fixtion . She is playing the role of Danielle as it should be done . Ane anyway have anyone seen her RADA Cv no rubbish actress get`s into RADA . Everybody should sit back and enjoy the drama envode , give it a couple of months . It would be interesting to know how long lauren Crace`s contract on Eastenders is for that would give everybody a clue on the fnal outcome good or a tragic .:hmm:
Yeah I know you dont want it to be too short but at the same time I think its at the point now wher eit is dragging and needs to coem out
How long has this been going on though? It was obvious from the start that Danielle was Ronnie's daughter. Way too obvious. It's beyond tedious now.
I don't think anyone on this forum has commented on Lauren's acting.
But then again maybe it was obvious to us, cos I mean look at us we are always on here speculating about soaps so always have more of an eye out for these things, it might have been more of a shock to others
di marco
18-01-2009, 10:24
But then again maybe it was obvious to us, cos I mean look at us we are always on here speculating about soaps so always have more of an eye out for these things, it might have been more of a shock to others
yeh i think it was more obvious to us cos as soon as we heard about danielle we all starting assuming she would be ronnies daughter, but when she first came on screen and i told my dad he wouldnt believe me so i dont think it was obvious to everyone from the start! although it was quite a while ago when we found out on screen for definte that danielle is ronnies daughter
i heard that danielle tells stacey that ronnie is her mum after she tells stacey about being pregnant and the abortion, dont know whether thats true though cos i dont remember seeing anywhere definte confirming this. dont think ronnie will find out for quite a while or if she does i dont think it will be danielle that tells her. also i think archie leaves in about june/july time so i think this must play some part in him leaving so i cant see it coming out just yet
Welshwizard
19-01-2009, 21:05
Anybody interested in this storyline can go on holiday for 2 weeks it seems . As we saw tonite Danielle`s abortion appointment isn`t until 4/5 thFebruary . The big reveal better be good well I have seen enough threads about this on so many forums . It reminds me of the end of Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes no one could predict those two endings and Tony Jordan had a hand in those shows aswell . I wonder if he will have an imput into this storyline . nice ending for both Ronnie and Danielle , I can`t see them carrying on as mother and daughter in the usual sense. I can see alot of conflict between the two of them Ronnie will treat her as a baby spoiled rotten never letting her out of her sight . While Danielle will want to be like Ronnie strong and confident .If danielle is still here in a years time then I can see her a totally different character , Everybody has tried to guess what will happen I wouldn`t mind to bet there will still be a suprising twist in the tale . I also reckon this Gareth character we hear about has Downs Syndrome either that learning problems . This Andy guy look like what people would look like on the Archers:rotfl: .
Over the past few weeks, I've had hoards of e-mails all asking the same question: when will Danielle tell Ronnie she's her daughter?
The forums have also been a hive of activity surrounding the reveal, with rumours galore as to when and how Danielle (Lauren Crace) will come clean with Ronnie (Samantha Janus) and what the repercussions of the revelation will be on all those concerned.
Discussions have included how Danielle should tell Ronnie; how Ronnie could react; plenty of rumours that Glenda (Ronnie and Roxy's mum and Archie's ex-wife) may have been Danielle's foster mother; speculation that mother and daughter will live happily ever after, rumours that someone might kick the bucket; and suggestions as to what music the producers will settle on for the episode in question.
The storyline has been running for quite some time now and a fair few viewers are becoming a little frustrated by the lack of a resolve. I'm sure plenty of fans have been shouting expletives at the TV to the tune of 'why the hell don't you just tell her?!' I, on occasion, have been one said Walfordite.
Well, to answer the most common question of them all, I can confirm that Danielle will finally reveal her secret to Ronnie within the next few months. Vague, I know, but they really are keeping this one quiet!
Details as to the makeup of the episode, though, are being kept a closely guarded secret, which producers are understandably hoping will remain under wraps until the episode transmits. All I can say for now is that, in my opinion, it will have been worth the wait.
An Elstree source this afternoon told me: "Everyone's thrilled that the storyline's creating such a buzz. We're loving the speculation as to what might happen when Ronnie finds out that she's been living on the same Square as her daughter for the last six months."
They added: "We can't wait to see it on screen. Everyone's hoping that viewers will be as shocked as we were when we heard how the story unfolds."
di marco
27-01-2009, 09:54
plenty of rumours that Glenda (Ronnie and Roxy's mum and Archie's ex-wife) may have been Danielle's foster mother
i doubt glenda was her foster mother cos hasnt her foster mum died and im pretty sure glenda is still alive cos if she wasnt wouldnt roxy and ronnie know about it?
I can confirm that Danielle will finally reveal her secret to Ronnie within the next few months.
so does that mean that danielle actually tells ronnie and that ronnie doesnt find out from someone else?
Another couple of months? :rolleyes: It's dragged on way too long. I wouldn't mind if it hadn't have been obvious from the moment Danielle arrived.
To be honest, I am now absolutely bored with this and don't give a damn anymore when and how she tells Ronnie and whether that is the first Ronnie learns about her daughter still being alive. There have been ample opportunities for Danielle to tell her and they could have kept it secret from the others, especially Archie and had some fun. Not this drawn out tosh :thumbsdow
tammyy2j
29-01-2009, 13:39
Icemaiden Ronnie Mitchell helps troubled teen Danielle Jones abort her baby not realising the tot is her granddaughter.
The fiery blonde does not know Danielle is the daughter she gave up as a teenager.
Danielle – played by Lauren Crace, 22 – has been secretly trying to befriend her mum but it’s Ronnie (Sam Janus, 36) who persuades her to have an abortion.
A show insider said: “Ronnie has no idea she has helped get rid of her granddaughter.
“She’ll be devastated when she finds out.”
There's an article in this week's Inside Soap:
Danielle Jones comes to a heartbreaking decision this week, as she chooses to terminate her pregnancy, It's an emotional time for the frightened teenager and the stress is clearly taking it's toll - leading the cleaner confiding in best friend Stacey that Ronnie is her mother...
"It's been a tough few weeks for Danielle - all she wants is for this whole ordeal to be over," admits Lauren Crace, who plays her.
"When Stacey finds out about the pregnancy, she's upset that Danielle didn't confide in her, and can't comprehend why she's tell Ronnie instead. Danielle gets really frustrated by the situation, and ends up blurting out that Ronnie's her mum so Stacey will understand what she's going through.
It's a distressing week from start to finish and 19-year-old Danielle, who's been struggling to make a decision about her future since discovering she's expecting. And after finally resolving to terminate her pregnancy - following a pep talk from an unsuspecting mum - even a last minute plea from Stacey to reconsider doesn't sway her.
"The only reason Danielle hasn't told Stacey about the baby already is that she didn't want to burden her," Lauren explains. "But Stacey follows her to R&R and finds her talking to Ronnie, which is when she realises what's going on. Stacey really doesn't want Danielle to go through with the termination, and even tells her about her own experience in a bid to stop her.
"Later, Ronnie and Danielle get in a taxi to go to the clinic," the actress continues. "Stacey follows them and barges in just as Danielle is about to take the pill. That does give her pause, but she feels she can't turn back now. So, as Stacey is dragged out of the room, Danielle swallows the tablet."
Tired and emotional, Danielle returns to the Slater house and tries to convince Stacey that she's made the right decision. And as the friends open up to each other, Stacey's incredulity at the fact Danielle chose Ronnie as her confidante leads to the shocking confession.
"Stacey's totally stunned - she can't believe Danielle hasn't told Ronnie the truth," sighs Lauren. "But she's also shocked that Danielle would take Ronnie along to the termination of her own grandchild. Stacey thinks Danielle is going a but insane, and hasn't thought things through."
With Stacey's words ringing in her ears, Danielle decides the time has come to reveal her identity to Ronnie. But when he mum decides to distance herself from Danielle's pregnancy drama following a heart-to-heart with Dot, the tortured teenager is left feeling more solated than ever.
"Danielle's distraught, and feels let down," Lauren shares. "She was so happy to finally have Ronnie's support, so this completely crushes her. It's a huge step backwards, and Danielle is less willing than ever to tell Ronnie the truth..."
************
Danielle's termination trauma brings back painful memories of Ronnie's own pregnancy years ago - prompting the R&R co-owner to confide in Dot about the baby she gave away.
Sympathising with Ronnie's plight, Dot admits that she lost a baby too - although she stops short of revealing she ended the pregnancy.
Sensing that the ordeal is taking its toll on the blonde, Dot then suggest she take a step back, in order to keep her own emotions in check.
So despite her misgivings about abandoning Danielle in her time of need, Ronnie breaks the news that she can't accompany the teen to the second clinic appointment...
Today's Daily Star:
She’s a young girl who was unlucky enough to fall pregnant after a drunken one-night stand with gigolo barman Paul.
So it’s little wonder that when a downcast Danielle walks into a room, it’s like all the lights have been switched off.
As if that wasn’t a big enough emotional burden, Danielle’s other secret is that Ronnie Mitchell is her mum.
And being part of that dysfunctional family warrants having The Samaritans on speed-dial anyway.
If you were hoping for a happy outcome to this saga then you’re going to be disappointed.
Piling on the heartache, we have the bleak stories of three generations of women who have lost their babies – going from Stacey Slater to Ronnie and then even Dot.
Adding to the irony of it all, Danielle’s taken to the abortion clinic by Ronnie.
“Since when ’ave you been ’er best mate?” Stace sneers. “Yer practically old enough to be her mother.”
With Stacey’s abortion being the trigger to the collapse of her own marriage and an affair that ripped the Brannings apart, she doesn’t want her friend to make the same mistake.
“Don’t do it,” Stacey cries bursting into the clinic on Thursday just as Danielle is about to take the first of two lots of pills that will bring about a termination.
“Once you’ve done it, you can’t undo it.”
A provocative and poignant story, Danielle finally unburdens herself to Stacey and reveals that Ronnie is her mum.
“Well, I never fort I’d feel sorry for Ronnie Mitchell,” Stacey admits. “You took her with you to get rid of her grandchild – but you didn’t even tell her.”
No, although she intends to. And Danielle hopes there will be a happy-ever-after.
“I haven’t aborted it yet, have I?” Danielle says to Stacey on Friday.
“I could tell her who I am, before I take the pills. Then, when she knows, she’ll say, ‘Don’t go back. Don’t get rid of the baby. Have it, and we’ll bring it up together’.”
Perhaps she shouldn’t order that cot just yet…
parkerman
01-02-2009, 12:38
Daily Star, eh? That is word for word the same article that appears in the Daily Mirror. I can't think it's a BBC press release because of the way it is worded. Is it one journalist who writes all the television soap pages????
tammyy2j
03-02-2009, 11:28
STACEY is baffled by Danielle’s behaviour in EASTENDERS.
She’s curious to know why the hell she’s asked Ronnie Mitchell to accompany her to the dentist.
“Since when are you suddenly her best mate?” Stacey asks Ronnie. “You’re old enough to be her mum…”
Of course, Stacey’s unwittingly hit the nail on the head there. But now’s not the time for Danielle to admit this.
Stacey does, however, finally twig that the appointment is really at the abortion clinic – and with her own termination still horribly fresh in her memory, urges her mate not to go through with it.
For a moment there I had
"You're not my mother!!"
"Yes I am!"
in my head.
Awww so its still not coming out :(
walsh2509
04-02-2009, 14:34
Don't get it , ronnie if I remember correctly tells Danielle that she (ronnie) got rid of her baby.
But Danielle knows that to be untrue as she is standing there in front of her mother.
So Danielle knew Ronnie wasn't telling the truth.
I think it is dragging on but you can kind of tell that Danielle want Ronnie to open up to her and if we are waiting for that then we will be waiting for a very long time!
I agree this is really dragging, it looks like from the spoilers it will be ages before ronnie finds out, i reckon stacey will end up telling her, she has a reputation for not keeping things she see's or hears quiet I remember back to the patrick/pat/yolande affair where she grassed patrick/pat up to yolande, at least if we had a rough timeline to go on we might be a bit more patient
Don't get it , ronnie if I remember correctly tells Danielle that she (ronnie) got rid of her baby.
But Danielle knows that to be untrue as she is standing there in front of her mother.
So Danielle knew Ronnie wasn't telling the truth.
I was thinking that.. why didn't she just come out and say LIAR! I am your daughter, you didn't get rid of her
Xx-Vicky-xX
04-02-2009, 16:35
Don't get it , ronnie if I remember correctly tells Danielle that she (ronnie) got rid of her baby.
But Danielle knows that to be untrue as she is standing there in front of her mother.
So Danielle knew Ronnie wasn't telling the truth.
I was thinking that.. why didn't she just come out and say LIAR! I am your daughter, you didn't get rid of her
Liar i think being the wrong word because as far as Ronnie knows she did
Don't get it , ronnie if I remember correctly tells Danielle that she (ronnie) got rid of her baby.
But Danielle knows that to be untrue as she is standing there in front of her mother.
So Danielle knew Ronnie wasn't telling the truth.
I was thinking that.. why didn't she just come out and say LIAR! I am your daughter, you didn't get rid of her
Liar i think being the wrong word because as far as Ronnie knows she did
No Liar is correct.. Ronnie said she aborted her baby.. she never said she was taken off her
Xx-Vicky-xX
04-02-2009, 16:38
Don't get it , ronnie if I remember correctly tells Danielle that she (ronnie) got rid of her baby.
But Danielle knows that to be untrue as she is standing there in front of her mother.
So Danielle knew Ronnie wasn't telling the truth.
I was thinking that.. why didn't she just come out and say LIAR! I am your daughter, you didn't get rid of her
Liar i think being the wrong word because as far as Ronnie knows she did
No Liar is correct.. Ronnie said she aborted her baby.. she never said she was taken off her
She used the word abortion or just said got rid of?? ive missed bits recently either not paying attention or missed episodes
got rid off but in light of what Danielle was thinking i.e. abortion then what is Danielle suppose to think she means?
Xx-Vicky-xX
04-02-2009, 16:42
got rid off but in light of what Danielle was thinking i.e. abortion then what is Danielle suppose to think she means?
True in real life in this situation people would think she meant abortion but i bet you it comes to light that she didn't think of that at all
i think if i remember rightly she said that she had a baby and it was the biggest mistake of her life and didn't want Danielle to do the same, danielle pushed her to get more info but she clammed up, but correct me if i am wrong
sindydoll
05-02-2009, 10:24
i think if i remember rightly she said that she had a baby and it was the biggest mistake of her life and didn't want Danielle to do the same, danielle pushed her to get more info but she clammed up, but correct me if i am wrong
you are 100% right honey
i think if i remember rightly she said that she had a baby and it was the biggest mistake of her life and didn't want Danielle to do the same, danielle pushed her to get more info but she clammed up, but correct me if i am wrong
Yeah that is what happened
poor daneille doesnt know what to think
i think if i remember rightly she said that she had a baby and it was the biggest mistake of her life and didn't want Danielle to do the same, danielle pushed her to get more info but she clammed up, but correct me if i am wrong
My apologies.. I thought she said she got rid of it...
i think if i remember rightly she said that she had a baby and it was the biggest mistake of her life and didn't want Danielle to do the same, danielle pushed her to get more info but she clammed up, but correct me if i am wrong
you are 100% right honey
Yeah, and then last night Danielle got her talking about it again and Ronnie said she gave the baby up for adoption (not that Archie took her off of her) and that she doesn't think about it any more (which she clearly does as she mentioned how long she actually got with her baby recently, and early last year was trying to trace her.)
DaVeyWaVey
06-02-2009, 22:17
She's really annoying me now - just tell her for goodness sake. The writers are really dragging it out now and it's bringing her character down, for me.
di marco
06-02-2009, 22:36
she was annoying when she was being so naive today about how she was going to tell her. she should have just told her straight away rather than waiting months
xxloopylauraxx
06-02-2009, 23:15
how much longer is she going to drag it out. its really annoying me now. shes making it obvious somethings going on because if someone kept acting like that around me if i had a past id either put two and two together or think i got a stalker! eastenders does tend to drag some story lines out a bit.
I like her but the more it drags on the more itrritating she gets, although she is making me like Ronnie more.
And like i said in the episide discussion thread, i keep thinkgint Kat and Zoe its what springs to mind whenever i see them even though i know its not really the same at all.
CrazyLea
07-02-2009, 01:30
For me personally, they're bringing both the charactes of Danielle and Ronnie up. I used to hate them both. Now I feel sorry for them both so much, I actually am liking both characters.
di marco
07-02-2009, 16:18
ive always quite liked ronnie but i like her more now and ive also started to like danielle when i hated her when she first joined. i have a feeling someone else will tell ronnie and not danielle cos danielle thinks ronnie doesnt want her. or if danielle does tell her ronnie will probably think shes sick and twisted or something seeing as she thinks her daughters dead. i can see the revelation of this being linked to archie leaving
walsh2509
09-02-2009, 01:25
ive always quite liked ronnie but i like her more now and ive also started to like danielle when i hated her when she first joined. i have a feeling someone else will tell ronnie and not danielle cos danielle thinks ronnie doesnt want her. or if danielle does tell her ronnie will probably think shes sick and twisted or something seeing as she thinks her daughters dead. i can see the revelation of this being linked to archie leaving
WHEN! this is dragging on and on and on ...
For me personally, they're bringing both the charactes of Danielle and Ronnie up. I used to hate them both. Now I feel sorry for them both so much, I actually am liking both characters.
Same here
I like it even more now :)
tammyy2j
16-02-2009, 14:38
Danielle Jones is left on the brink over her family hell.
Returning from a visit to see her dad in Telford desperate Danielle, who has just gone through an abortion, tries to insist that everything is fine.
But her pal Stacey sees the pain in her face and realises something’s up.
She asks Danielle – who still hasn’t told Ronnie Mitchell she’s her long-lost *daughter – to help out on the stall.
Later the girls decide to hit the town to try to cheer themselves up. And they are drinking in the Queen Vic when Peggy comes over for a chat.
She tells Danielle she and Archie have had a change of heart and they want Danielle to have her cleaning job back. But despite the good news a drunk Danielle suddenly breaks down and starts sobbing while a confused Peggy looks on.
An insider said: “Danielle is ushered outside by Stacey, where she reveals all about her visit to her dad.
“She says she feels she should never have told her dad about the baby and *really regrets her decision.
“Her dad is so upset he will never let her return home.
“She tells Stacey she can never go back now and that she’s on her own…forever.”
The dramatic episode will be screened a week tomorrow on BBC1.
di marco
16-02-2009, 16:44
i find it so funny in soaps and other tv shows where people are banished from their families forever! surely in real life your family might be hurt you had an abortion but they wouldnt refuse to see you ever again!
Yeah, I mean the Slaters weren't impressed that Zoe had had one because of Little Mo keeping Graham's baby etc but they didn't disown her over it.
parkerman
16-02-2009, 16:53
Different families react in different ways. I'm sure it has happened in real life.
di marco
16-02-2009, 16:55
Different families react in different ways. I'm sure it has happened in real life.
im not saying it doesnt happened, but its such an extreme reaction surely it would only be such a small mnority of people. on tv, people shun family members all the time
sindydoll
27-02-2009, 07:38
have we found out how she dies yet
JustJodi
27-02-2009, 10:05
You know gang, I think the only way Ronnie is going to find out is if A-Stacey tells her B- some one stumbles on her diary
Ronnie is going to be totally TORN if Danielle dies and finds out she is her " dead " dead daughter.:rolleyes:
EE is not playing this story line out properly
I think its gonna be very sad
sindydoll
03-03-2009, 16:41
i think archie is going to kill her so ronnie cant have her
tammyy2j
03-03-2009, 17:04
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8670645117
Spoiler - Dianiella And Ronnie - Mothers Day!
Peggy will find out all about Archie and how he has been manipulating everyone. Sadly she does marry him first, but soon after she will kick him straight out of there.
Ronnie discovers that her and Danielle are related. Danielle is running across the square to the Vic, and as she reaches it, Ronnie comes outside and Danielle pauses in the road, seeing Ronnie crying.
At that exact moment, Janine comes speeding around the corned and knocks Danielle down. She then dies in Ronnie's arms.
OR
Ronnie is trapped in R&R and it is in flames. Danielle would do anything to help Ronnie. And she does not care about being sensible - all she knows is she has to get her mum out of there and no-one else is around. She realises it is up to her. She runs in to save her mum and finds Ronnie trapped underneath a beam unconscious holding on to her locket- which is now open. Danielle sees the locket of herself and realises how much Ronnie loves her and wishes that she had had the courage to tell Ronnie who she really was. All she has to do is now get her out of the fire. But she cant move the beam. Tearfully and now getting suffocated by the smoke herself, she slowly realises she can't do this...
As she is getting weaker and the beam is not budging, she collapses next to her mother, holds her hand and sobs at how terribly sorry she is that she can't save her, but she wont leave her... and then another beam falls.. blocking our view of the two. The Eastenders drums roll.
In the next episode - a fireman (the newly cast hunk to replace Sean), comes and moves the beam saving them both! Whilst in hospital Ronnie awakens, and hears the story of how Danielle tried to save her... she is overcome with emotion and respect for Danielle ... realising how she put her life in danger for her - something no-one else had done ever. And then Danielle opens her eyes and says; "I'd do anything for you - you're my mum."
Ronnie is stunned, then the good looking fireman comes in with the locket and says "Hi. I just wanted to return this...' , as he opens his hand with the locket in it. Ronnie looks at it and then looks at Danielle and says "I dont need it- I have the real thing!"
At which point they both tearfully hug each other and the fireman- realising he is interupting a major sensitive moment- puts his phone number in the locket, leaves it by Ronnie's purse and leaves.... (hence and opening for a love interest for Ronnie's.)
I would go for option 1 but with roxy as the person who accidently knocks her down
Chris_2k11
04-03-2009, 11:38
Surely not another fire at the club?
I think its the first one sadly, the second one sounds a bit too fairytale like to me? :searchme:
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8670645117
Spoiler - Dianiella And Ronnie - Mothers Day!
Peggy will find out all about Archie and how he has been manipulating everyone. Sadly she does marry him first, but soon after she will kick him straight out of there.
Ronnie discovers that her and Danielle are related. Danielle is running across the square to the Vic, and as she reaches it, Ronnie comes outside and Danielle pauses in the road, seeing Ronnie crying.
At that exact moment, Janine comes speeding around the corned and knocks Danielle down. She then dies in Ronnie's arms.
OR
Ronnie is trapped in R&R and it is in flames. Danielle would do anything to help Ronnie. And she does not care about being sensible - all she knows is she has to get her mum out of there and no-one else is around. She realises it is up to her. She runs in to save her mum and finds Ronnie trapped underneath a beam unconscious holding on to her locket- which is now open. Danielle sees the locket of herself and realises how much Ronnie loves her and wishes that she had had the courage to tell Ronnie who she really was. All she has to do is now get her out of the fire. But she cant move the beam. Tearfully and now getting suffocated by the smoke herself, she slowly realises she can't do this...
As she is getting weaker and the beam is not budging, she collapses next to her mother, holds her hand and sobs at how terribly sorry she is that she can't save her, but she wont leave her... and then another beam falls.. blocking our view of the two. The Eastenders drums roll.
In the next episode - a fireman (the newly cast hunk to replace Sean), comes and moves the beam saving them both! Whilst in hospital Ronnie awakens, and hears the story of how Danielle tried to save her... she is overcome with emotion and respect for Danielle ... realising how she put her life in danger for her - something no-one else had done ever. And then Danielle opens her eyes and says; "I'd do anything for you - you're my mum."
Ronnie is stunned, then the good looking fireman comes in with the locket and says "Hi. I just wanted to return this...' , as he opens his hand with the locket in it. Ronnie looks at it and then looks at Danielle and says "I dont need it- I have the real thing!"
At which point they both tearfully hug each other and the fireman- realising he is interupting a major sensitive moment- puts his phone number in the locket, leaves it by Ronnie's purse and leaves.... (hence and opening for a love interest for Ronnie's.)
Both have been done before - Tiffany and Tom's death :thumbsdow
I also heard Archie kills Danielle
I would prefer if Danielle didnt die
tammyy2j
09-03-2009, 10:04
DANIELLE Jones is on the verge of telling Ronnie Mitchell she’s her daughter after vandalising her home.
The troubled teen scrawls the abuse across Ronnie’s door after reaching breaking point.
She cracks while babysitting Roxy Mitchell’s daughter Amy while she visits Peggy in hospital.
Adopted Danielle is still distraught over her recent abortion and longs for the support Ronnie couldn’t give her when she was growing up. And as her resentment grows she attacks her mum’s front door – spraying “Evil Cow” right across it.
Our Walford source said: “Danielle has finally snapped after weeks of carrying this huge burden.
“She’s been spending more time with her family but has been unable to speak a word of the truth to anyone and that’s harder than she ever imagined.
“Everything comes to a head when Ronnie arrives back at the Vic from visiting Peggy – and Danielle and Amy are nowhere to be found.
“Danielle has only taken Amy to the park and returns as Ronnie is out frantically looking for her.
“Once they are reunited in the pub the atmosphere turns frosty.
“Danielle begins grilling Ronnie about the time she spent with her own little girl and admits she can’t stop thinking about the baby she aborted.
“And when she tells Ronnie she would have been a great mum, Ronnie gets angry before Danielle snaps and calls her an evil cow. Ronnie realises it was Danielle who painted those words on her front door.
“And she begins to ask more questions over who Danielle Jones really is.”
Find out if the penny drops for Ronnie on Tuesday March 17.
di marco
09-03-2009, 11:14
I would go for option 1 but with roxy as the person who accidently knocks her down
i think its no1 too as ive heard it somewhere else that janine runs danielle over. although i like your idea better, having roxy run her over accidently would be good
I might be wrong but Janine has killed before and was wondering whether Archie may have something to do with Danielle being killed by Janine.
Janine seems to want to do business or whathever with Archie at the moment and is quite gullable and would probably do anything for the right amount of money or if he has said she could get the Vic.
tammyy2j
11-03-2009, 14:42
I might be wrong but Janine has killed before and was wondering whether Archie may have something to do with Danielle being killed by Janine.
Janine seems to want to do business or whathever with Archie at the moment and is quite gullable and would probably do anything for the right amount of money or if he has said she could get the Vic.
Maybe and Archie does find out who Danielle is first
I might be wrong but Janine has killed before and was wondering whether Archie may have something to do with Danielle being killed by Janine.
Janine seems to want to do business or whathever with Archie at the moment and is quite gullable and would probably do anything for the right amount of money or if he has said she could get the Vic.
Maybe and Archie does find out who Danielle is first
Tammy, he does according to the lastest spoilers. he sees the locket around her neck with Ronnie's picture in it... oh Like your idea Miccisy... Archie gets Janine to do it
So Janine kills Barry and now Danielle and gets away with it :angry:
I really hope Danielle doesnt die - let her and Ronnie have a mother - daughter relationship
Sienna020
13-03-2009, 17:18
I cant belive after all this time introducing her character and building up the storyline they would kill her off as soon as ronnie finds out. Well if they do its really going to p*ss me off they've dragged it out for so long now!
sindydoll
14-03-2009, 16:47
i think its a bad idea killing her off
di marco
14-03-2009, 18:12
i quite like the idea of killing her off at some point cos then the storyline has gone full circle but i dont think it should be just yet
I wish she would go away, I don't like nice characters being killed off :(
tammyy2j
16-03-2009, 23:26
ARCHIE Mitchell plays dirty to get rid of grand-daughter Danielle Jones and stop her revealing who she really is.
Peggy’s husband squares up to Ronnie’s secret daughter in a nasty confrontation.
He then warns her to get out of town – before he forces her to go.
Our Walford insider said: “At this point Archie is desperate to make sure his web of lies about Danielle doesn’t unravel.
“That would ruin the family he’s worked hard to get on side.
“Him and Ronnie have just begun to get on after years of being arch enemies.
“She never really forgave him for forcing her to give up her baby.
“But recently she’s begun to accept him again and is even considering going to the wedding. If Danielle tells Ronnie who she really is then he stands to lose everything.
“Basically it’s him or her and the viewers will be left in no doubt that he’ll stop at nothing to finally see the back
of her.”
Although Danielle at first heeds Archie’s warning and heads home, quitting Walford, she later changes her mind.
Our source said: “Archie tells more lies in an effort to stop Danielle confessing all about her past.
“He says that Ronnie has threatened to kill herself if her adopted daughter ever shows up.
“But he has also told Ronnie that her adopted daughter has died.
“For Archie, Danielle is like a ticking time-bomb who’s ready to explode at any point.”
Viewers can see what Danielle eventually decides to do on Monday March 23 on BBC1.
di marco
17-03-2009, 10:55
“He says that Ronnie has threatened to kill herself if her adopted daughter ever shows up.
haha how unbelievable does that lie sound!
I also wish they would stop dragging it out but it doesn't look like a happy ending....from danielle's wiki page(and yes i know its not always 100% correct)
"Later in the year Danielle's aunt, Roxy, gave birth to a baby daughter and named her Amy, in memory of her sister's "dead" child. The storyline will reach it's conclusion with Danielle's death."
So we have invested in the story line for so long now that if they do kill her off am i the only one who will be doing this :wall: ???
tammyy2j
19-03-2009, 10:01
I think Danielle kills herself - she really is becoming more and more deranged
barreoty
19-03-2009, 20:49
god i hope she doesnt. im interested to see how archie is with her when he finds out. and if ronni really does make a good mother!!!
RuebenClara
20-03-2009, 01:22
She is run down after she runs out of the Vic upset. She tells Ronnie, but Ronnie doesn't believe her.
sindydoll
20-03-2009, 13:22
i want to know how she dies
She is meant to be run over by a car, but I don't know whether that is true
tammyy2j
20-03-2009, 15:35
Archie gives her money to leave which she thinks about but does not - i think its kinda rumoured everywhere that Danielle dies and in the soap mags previews for their next edition its says heartarche for Ronnie
Chris_2k11
21-03-2009, 23:07
She is meant to be run over by a car, but I don't know whether that is trueIts supposed to be Janine I heard, my theory is Archie pays Janine to do it.
matt1378
22-03-2009, 03:23
Archie gives her money to leave which she thinks about but does not - i think its kinda rumoured everywhere that Danielle dies and in the soap mags previews for their next edition its says heartarche for Ronnie
that sucks, they drag on the story for ages then ronnie finds out as danielle dies :thumbsdow
So she runs out the vic and gets knocked down by a member of the butcher family...aaawwww poor tiffany.........opps mean poor danielle
Wonder whether it will happen like this cos like you said its happened before with Tiffany.
JustJodi
22-03-2009, 14:36
If this happened on EE before to another character,, EE must be really desperate to re -use another tired story to "kill off" yet another character.:wall: EE needs to hire more CREATIVE WRITERS ,, and not recycle so many stories,, they always say "this story line will have you at the edge of your seats or its gripping or it is whatever" but once you get caught up in the hype you are let down and disapointed cos it has happened before to another character some years ago,, BORING:rolleyes:
I wish she didnt have to die, i think shes getting more and more interesting
Ronnie_1
22-03-2009, 23:02
I hate when characters get so interestin right at the end they end up gettin killed or leave:clap:
walsh2509
23-03-2009, 21:03
I'm going up to tell Ronnie , but I'll stand in the doorway but no one but Archie can see me ...
Just walk in and say I'm your daughter , but your dad says your mad and would kill yourself if I told you!
Agggg .,.... Get it over with .. I wanted the girl to live but if his story does not end with it ALL COMING OUT next episode. I could end up going mental myself.:wall:
I couldnt agree anymore they are SOooo dragging it
Wedding spoilers are up on Digital Spy - no sign of whether Danielle stays, goes, or whatever..but from the pics, it seems Peg's and Archie's marriage lasts all of a few hours (it sounds like they get married to me), Danielle finally tells Ronnie, but she doesn't believe her cos Archie says D is mad, but Ronnie spots Danielle's locket and realises the truth AT LONG FLAMMING LAST!!
Peg looks digusted at Archie so I guess he's gone, which is shame as he brought some new life to the tired Mitchell brand in EE.
storyseeker
24-03-2009, 01:11
Sadly, it's looking more and more definite that Danielle is going to die. It says at Digital Spy, and I quote...
"Rushing to the tube station with Stacey in tow, the events which unfold in front of Ronnie's eyes leave her with an eclipsing darkness inside."
It also says that in the next episode, "Stacey puts on a brave face and tries to put recent events behind her."
This suggests to me that whatever happens at the wedding is so traumatic to Danielle, she decides to end it all at the station.
sindydoll
24-03-2009, 07:11
Sadly, it's looking more and more definite that Danielle is going to die. It says at Digital Spy, and I quote...
"Rushing to the tube station with Stacey in tow, the events which unfold in front of Ronnie's eyes leave her with an eclipsing darkness inside."
It also says that in the next episode, "Stacey puts on a brave face and tries to put recent events behind her."
This suggests to me that whatever happens at the wedding is so traumatic to Danielle, she decides to end it all at the station.so danielle throws herself in front of a train? thats a bit dramatic
Well after last night and friday, I will push her under a train.. .will we have to go through this for another week...
Danielle: " I am leaving"
someone, mainly charlie "oh you have to work through your problem, people change" <or insert any non related remark that Danielle takes to mean Ronnie>
Danielle: " I am telling my mother, she has a right to know"
Archie: "it will kill her, do you want to kill her"
and so it goes on and on and on... :angry:
JustJodi
24-03-2009, 09:20
YAWWWWWWWWNNNNNNN....... wake me when the storyline is over :lol:
"my place is sitting next to my MOM " ok why didn't she just barge in and blurt it out and get it over with....she needs some MITCHELL backbone..:wall:
Cause it doesn't work like that in soapland.. in life possible but we have another week of Archie blocking her moves to look forward too.. oooh how exciting! :rolleyes::thumbsdow
storyseeker
24-03-2009, 11:48
[/quote]so danielle throws herself in front of a train? thats a bit dramatic[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's what I thought. But BBC did mention long ago that the story with her was NOT going to have a happy ending. I was hoping they'd changed their minds, but apparently not.
I still hate it though. I was enjoying Danielle's character, and the actress who plays her said she wanted to work on her character, to give her more confidance. She's obviously not going to be able to do that if she's dead.
Ronnie_1
24-03-2009, 12:02
I just cant believe wot theyr doin
Oh and well done to danielle for finally tellin her:cheer: :thumbsup:
That wasnt so hard now was it
JustJodi
24-03-2009, 13:05
so danielle throws herself in front of a train? thats a bit dramatic[/quote]
Yeah, that's what I thought. But BBC did mention long ago that the story with her was NOT going to have a happy ending. I was hoping they'd changed their minds, but apparently not.
I still hate it though. I was enjoying Danielle's character, and the actress who plays her said she wanted to work on her character, to give her more confidance. She's obviously not going to be able to do that if she's dead.[/quote]
GOOD point....unless there is something EE is not really telling us, besides, they can always change the storyline mid stream and keep her ALIVE :hmm: :rolleyes: :p
Ronnie_1
24-03-2009, 13:28
It is really pointless to bring her in then kill her
storyseeker
24-03-2009, 17:40
GOOD point....unless there is something EE is not really telling us, besides, they can always change the storyline mid stream and keep her ALIVE :hmm: :rolleyes: :p
I dont think they can now... I mean, they've already posted the spoilers on Digital Spy and everything. I don't know about the filming though. How long till an episode airs once they've finished filming it btw?
Ruffed_lemur
24-03-2009, 18:26
It is really pointless to bring her in then kill her
I agree. Such a shame if this happens.
Ronnie_1
24-03-2009, 19:14
There is hardly any spoilers for the 3rd so its giving absoloutely nothin away
GOOD point....unless there is something EE is not really telling us, besides, they can always change the storyline mid stream and keep her ALIVE :hmm: :rolleyes: :p
I dont think they can now... I mean, they've already posted the spoilers on Digital Spy and everything. I don't know about the filming though. How long till an episode airs once they've finished filming it btw?
They film about 6 - 8 weeks in advance so if they have killed her off, they would have to re-film all the key scenes with Archie, Ronnie, Peggy, Roxy, Phil, Stacey, the Slaters etc. I can't see that happening as it would cause a lot of disruption to current filming.
sindydoll
25-03-2009, 09:38
she screams it out at the wedding stacey and ronnie chase after her at the train station and bang she is gone in front of their eyes
Do you think she jumps or will it be an accident? Or maybe we will discuss this point for eternity to come :hmm:
sindydoll
25-03-2009, 09:55
Do you think she jumps or will it be an accident? Or maybe we will discuss this point for eternity to come :hmm:
i don't know...i recon its going to be suicide
don't think she would kill herself..
don't think she would kill herself..
She is acting so different from the way she used to, I can imagine that something makes her snap and in revenge to all the Mitchells, who she might feel have betrayed her, she could kill herself.
Not just after she finds her mum.. that is all she wanted.. Ronnie doesn't believe her at first but then finds the locket and goes looking for her so I doubt if she kills herself..
angel_eyes87
25-03-2009, 10:44
I think she gets knocked over by Janine, mirroring what Frank did to Tiffany, Because the spoilers in the mags say something about her getting into her car, with tragedy around the corner. Plus there were rumors going round a couple weeks ago, about this theory.:hmm:
My theory is that Janine is paid by Archie to do it... He says that Danielle is lying, but Ronnie finds the locket. but with Danielle gone then Archie can make up whatever he likes saying he didn't believe her cause she never showed him the locket and thought she was just after money from him cause she did ask Peggy for raise.. Danielle is the looney and Archie comes out smelling of roses
I had not thought about this, but you could be on to something here, Siobhan. Have missed a fair bit of EE lately, Archie is thick with Janine now then :hmm:
I had not thought about this, but you could be on to something here, Siobhan. Have missed a fair bit of EE lately, Archie is thick with Janine now then :hmm:
Yeah he is and it is the only way I can see him to stay in EE.. As far as I know he is not leaving but surely he would be chucked out if they know what he has done... Or with Danielle dead, he could say he didn't believe her cause he was told Ronnie's daughter was dead long ago and thought she was just trying to get attention, making things up.. you never know with this man.. so much he has done
gemgem_160
25-03-2009, 11:49
I have actually gone off eastenders as I find this storyline awful. There could off been so much they could of done with the characters after being reunited.
:crying:
I have actually gone off eastenders as I find this storyline awful. There could off been so much they could of done with the characters after being reunited.
:crying:
well given a choice I would rather see Danielle go than either Archie or Ronnie
Ronnie_1
25-03-2009, 12:39
Yea but I would want danielle to stay for Ronnie
angel_eyes87
25-03-2009, 12:50
I have to admit EE has gone boring, the only thing making me want to watch is when they all find out, which is really next Thursday, the wedding, alls I can say thank god for sky plus, can fastforward the boring parts, does anyone think EE will have a good aftermath, when it FINALLY comes out.
storyseeker
25-03-2009, 13:44
Might be because Archie lied to her. I mean, he promised her he'd take care of everything, and according to the spoilers, when she tries telling Ronnie the truth he basically tells everyone that she's insane, and Ronnie believes him, before she finds the locket, but by then she's already gone. It might be the final straw for her that drives her over the edge.
Ronnie_1
25-03-2009, 13:50
Yea because archie is so convincing cos if u were danielle u would probably believe him I just can't wait for the reveal
i do really hate the way the scriptwriters have handled this story.its very good at the moment and i for one is hooked on EE right now. and then they have to go and kill her off.whats the point of dragging it for so long and then for her to die just as ronnie finds out. :angry:
he only way they can now make it up is having a good reason for killing her off which will be ronnie gettin together with janine and framing archie for killing danielle. even thpugh she knows he is innocent!
sindydoll
25-03-2009, 15:23
just bought whats on tv and it says that it is under wraps how she dies! but archie goes has far has preparing a wire cable to strangle her but changes his mind! so i guess were never going to find out
when is sharon marshall on this morning?
Ronnie_1
25-03-2009, 15:43
do u have scans on the magazine?
If u do can u put them up:thumbsup:
JustJodi
25-03-2009, 15:47
she screams it out at the wedding stacey and ronnie chase after her at the train station and bang she is gone in front of their eyes
OOOOH yea,,, she could have tripped,, and fell in front of the train,,, it does not mean sucide or murder,,,
walsh2509
25-03-2009, 15:53
Got the mag today , as posted above he has a wire but can't go through with it. He gives her a load of money to go away, but after the wedding she sneeks back into the QV and hides. Either Ronnie and or her dad find her and she tells Ronnie she is her daughter.
Archie tells Ronnie that the girl has mental problems and Ronnie rips into her and she runs out the VQ.
Back downstairs Ronnie raises her glass to toast the happy couple and see a locket in her glass, she opens it and the penny drops, she is her daughter and she chases after her..
But it does not go any further ..
storyseeker
25-03-2009, 15:57
Yea because archie is so convincing cos if u were danielle u would probably believe him I just can't wait for the reveal
To be honest, I'm both looking forward to the reveal and dreading it.
I'd be looking forward to it more if I didn't know that Danielle was going to kick the bucket. It just seems so sad. They could have done so much more with the Danielle character, which is what Lauren Crace wanted, and I was hoping for a happy ending for her and Ronnie.
Ronnie_1
25-03-2009, 15:58
Thats just typical of them to leave u wantin more
walsh2509
25-03-2009, 19:32
Script writers have got this one totally wrong, 90%+ of the time Ronnie has spent with Danielle she has ended up bawling and shouting at her. Now she finds out she is her daughter, she's killed before Ronnie can talk to her as her mother.
As far as I can see , there will be no place for Ronnie in EEs now. This will end her, can't see her staying around, not that she had much to really stay for, but now with her daughter really dead, what's left for her!
Ronnie_1
25-03-2009, 19:41
Yea but we don't know wots goin to happen yet:crying:
walsh2509
25-03-2009, 19:50
What's On TV mag ... Says ..
It's the morning after the night before and the shell-shocked Mitchells are struggling to come to terms with a tragedy!
Ronnie_1
25-03-2009, 20:21
Can u do a scan on the mag please
I Cant Wait Ronnie Is Not Going To Be Happy With Archie The Difrt More Apart :eek:
storyseeker
25-03-2009, 23:52
What's On TV mag ... Says ..
It's the morning after the night before and the shell-shocked Mitchells are struggling to come to terms with a tragedy!
Well, that's that then I guess. What with what the BBC said at the beginning about there not being a happy ending, a death in the Mitchells, the spoilers on Digital Spy and now this, I can't think of what else it all means other than Danielle is gonna meet her maker.
I Cant Wait Ronnie Is Not Going To Be Happy With Archie The Difrt More Apart :eek:
Drift apart??? She's gonna friggin kill him if anything!
angel_eyes87
26-03-2009, 00:00
Every mag/website has basically given the impression that she is going to be killed off, then when I read something about Janine being kicked out of the wedding after finding out that the car-lot is not hers, she runs out into her car with tragedy around the corner.
Ok, the mag I have (TV Now an irish one) says for Thursday that Peggy's wedding ruined by Danielle's revealation that she is Ronnie's daughter and for Friday is says Ronnie tries to cope with her grief so I am guessing Danielle dies but it doesn't say how
I reckon we can presume that Danielle dies on the day of the wedding, but we will have to watch to see how, this will be a very closely guarded secret. To be honest, I don't really want to know beforehand, I would rather watch it unfold.
sindydoll
26-03-2009, 12:21
by the sound of things she gets pushed under a train
But who would push her? Archie? Is he going to be there too? :eek:
Ronnie_1
26-03-2009, 12:30
Yea I would rather just watch that way I'll be more shocked than if I knew wot happened
sindydoll
26-03-2009, 13:19
But who would push her? Archie? Is he going to be there too? :eek: ok maybe not because archie will be at the wedding! or maybe he gets someone else to do it
But who would push her? Archie? Is he going to be there too? :eek: ok maybe not because archie will be at the wedding! or maybe he gets someone else to do it
He might do as it is after the wedding we find out so it could happen
sindydoll
26-03-2009, 13:22
But who would push her? Archie? Is he going to be there too? :eek: ok maybe not because archie will be at the wedding! or maybe he gets someone else to do it
He might do as it is after the wedding we find out so it could happen
but ronnie and stacey run out of the wedding and chase after her which then they end up at the train station and bang she is dead in front of their eyes
do you know what the ending is going to be completely different isn't it their trying to trick us
They don't run out of the wedding but the reception at the Vic.. where Danielle has left her locket in Ronnie's drink
Ronnie_1
26-03-2009, 13:45
Has any other spoiler been posted for the 3rd
I think its pretty obvious now that Danielle does die
I hope we see her real dad - i'm curious to see Ronnie's ex
storyseeker
26-03-2009, 16:31
I think its pretty obvious now that Danielle does die
I hope we see her real dad - i'm curious to see Ronnie's ex
Ronnie's ex was on last year. Apparently Ronnie went to find him for some reason, but he was married with a family.
I think its pretty obvious now that Danielle does die
I hope we see her real dad - i'm curious to see Ronnie's ex
Ronnie's ex was on last year. Apparently Ronnie went to find him for some reason, but he was married with a family.
I dont remember seeing him on screen only a child at his house
Surely Ronnie will want to tell him
Ronnie_1
26-03-2009, 16:58
Yea she went to his hous but we didn't see him
sindydoll
26-03-2009, 19:24
Yea she went to his hous but we didn't see him
thats right she did and no we didnt se him! you have jogged my memory
Ronnie_1
27-03-2009, 11:48
A girl came to the door but dont know if it was his daughter or not and Ronnie told her she had the wrong house then walked away
storyseeker
27-03-2009, 22:54
Well, Danielle is definitely gonna go. I just checked the descriptions for next week's episodes on satellite TV guide... On the aftermath after the wedding, it says the Mitchell clan is left realing after the tragedy, Ronnie struggles with her grief by conducting a terrible lie, and Archie struggles to get his family back.
Since Archie's still around, he obviously doesn't kill her or end up being the one who dies instead or anything.
I still can't figure out why Peggy would organise a family dinner the week after? Who has a family dinner right after something as tragic as that???
RuebenClara
28-03-2009, 03:05
From what I have heard, only Ronnie will know about Danielle. I don't think she tells them.
She doesn't tell them she has died?
I thought Stacey is there too as both Ronnie and her are supposed to run after Danielle. Stacey will tell people, surely.
Ronnie_1
28-03-2009, 14:01
Maybe they won't show us wot happens and keep this sl goin on for longer and we'll all be guessin
di marco
28-03-2009, 16:17
i like the idea of her jumping/being pushed in front of a train, but it sounds like janine will accidently run her over outside the tube station
storyseeker
28-03-2009, 16:47
She doesn't tell them she has died?
Doubtful, but I suppose if Ronnie wasn't thinking too clearly at the time (understandable, considering what she'd just go through), she might make up a lie like that at a spur of the moment because she can't face the truth.
Then again, maybe she goes around pretending that she doesn't care about what's happened? A lot of people who suffer a terrible trauma usually end up pretending that it doesn't affect them because it's the only way they can cope.
From what I have heard, only Ronnie will know about Danielle. I don't think she tells them.
According to the spoilers, Stacey will be there with Ronnie at the station.
I like her now, but tbh I just want it over and done with now, I mean there is dragging it and then there is dragging it where it gets a mention in every single episode which is worse
i dont think she will die, knowing eastenders they will drag the story on even further and have her seriously ill or in a coma or something like that after whatever accident happens next week
storyseeker
29-03-2009, 22:38
i dont think she will die, knowing eastenders they will drag the story on even further and have her seriously ill or in a coma or something like that after whatever accident happens next week
That is possible I guess, but Eastenders did make a confirmation once that there would be a death in the Mitchell clan. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
di marco
30-03-2009, 00:09
im pretty certain she will die, could be wrong though
sindydoll
30-03-2009, 22:03
i dont think she will die, knowing eastenders they will drag the story on even further and have her seriously ill or in a coma or something like that after whatever accident happens next week
That is possible I guess, but Eastenders did make a confirmation once that there would be a death in the Mitchell clan. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
archie will die
Bad Wolf
30-03-2009, 22:30
i hope they dont kill her off, it would be nice to see them after the fall out on thursday
JustJodi
31-03-2009, 02:55
archie will die
Yea Ronnie will probably kill him :p :ninja:
storyseeker
31-03-2009, 06:06
archie will die
Yea Ronnie will probably kill him :p :ninja:
Yes, I had heard that Ronnie would kill him after he kidnaps Roxy for some reason. Maybe after everything that happens, he finally goes off the deep end and goes insane, and Ronnie has to kill him to protect her sister?
sindydoll
31-03-2009, 08:15
Archie is definitely going to die at some point weather its this week or sometime after it seems pretty obvious
i hope they dont kill her off, it would be nice to see them after the fall out on thursday
I agree, I mean shes annoying me at the moment but its more archie than her and the writers for dragging it
Bad Wolf
31-03-2009, 20:13
does archie not run off to france or something???
in inside soap it says two characters leave- archie and danielle thats obvious, why cant danielle stay and the mitchell girls all get along to gether in some kinda girl power/spice girls multi generation pop band kinda thing???
peggy can be scary spice- and borrow some of Pat's animal!!
ronnie can be posh spice as she never smiles
roxy can be sporty
dannielle can be ginger and buy a wig
and er baby amy can (er) be baby spice!!!
Welshwizard
31-03-2009, 21:56
Oh well all this speculation on what might or might not happen is all good for these messageboards . But let`s be realistic , Danielle will die on Thursday I am 100 percent sure of this but all this gossip is harmless fun . Soon we can all talk up the next storyline in the same way . There is three ways you could look at how EE bosses have come to this cliffhanger .
1 . This was decided two years ago when Ronnie and Roxy first came to the square , when they showed up at Phil`s and Stella`s wedding reception . I have always thought this storyline was albout Ronnie first and foremost . When they created these sister`s Ronnie was the important character . Roxy was just an afterthought . Although I can see her being on the show much longer than Ronnie .
2. Lauren was fired from the show . I have heard rumours about this from other Forums . Sam Janus has a reputation of falling out with co stars in the past , it might be a long shot on that one though .
3. The producers changed the ending of this stortline after the visit to the abortion clinic . The last 6 to 8 weeks just don`t add up to me in parts . lauren did go to see the producers asking for her character to be much more stronger and ourt spoken . And what does she get for this ,to be killed off .
Unlike some people I will still watch the show after this , characters come and go all the time . It just a shame some one so good as Danielle and epsecially the actress Lauren Crace have been ditched in such a way .
I see her as very much a theatre and shakespearen actress rather than a soap actress . A more higher class of acting altogether , soap is all about the rating getting bums on seats very watered down . but we all watch them .
I do expect to see Sam give a great performance in the weeks to come well plenty of emotion . We might even see Danielle in the weeks times aswell as I would be suprised if she plays thigment of Ronnie`s imagination a ghostly figure haunting her . She will appear in a dream with her . Well I do remember after Jas died that we saw Jay having a dream where he was with his father .
So it would be nice to see mother and daughter bonding if only in a dream sequence .
Anyway roll on Thursday and all these theories can be blown up in smoke .:lol: :cheer: :crying:
sindydoll
31-03-2009, 22:15
2 more days and it will all be over...phew
I can't help thinking that something fishy is going on. This stuff is meant to under embargo get the Mirror punished a leaving interview with Lauren and Tina Baker is revealing things left right and centre. Why is she doing this when she must know she'll lose exclusive spoiler rights by breaking the embargo? And then there is the Radio Times themselves that have revealed spoilers to do with this storyline. Seems strange thats all, given they wanted this all kept under wraps.
JustJodi
01-04-2009, 15:52
I didn't see any thing on the Mirror.. so I guess I must have missed it,,
JO are u saying they are spilling the spoilers for tomorrow on Radio Times and the Mirror ???
walsh2509
01-04-2009, 17:55
I wanted to see her live and her and Ronnie get some time together , but in the long run this could turn out better for Lauren Crace. Stay for a good few years and that could see you stereotyped as that girl from Eastenders, could hurt her chance of other parts.
Eastenders_4ev@
02-04-2009, 21:44
I didnt c the point in bringing danielle in for her just to die
what was the point its been dragged out so long and then they just kill her god, would have been better for them to actually get to spend time together n have at least a few story times first, i really dont see the point
walsh2509
02-04-2009, 22:30
After watching it unfold , the more I had to shake my head, is this the level of script writing at Eastenders.
Was Janine driving round Albert Sq in circles until Danielle was on her mark in the middle of the road. How big is the Sq ? more likely when leaving you take the one road out, either left or right. She should have been long gone before Danielle even got to that bit of the street, not far off the Sq.
That bit has me puzzled too. There is nowhere on the square where you can go that fast. Danielle stood in the road, if Janine did not see her, as she claimed, how fast did she drive coming round a corner?
tammyy2j
03-04-2009, 10:10
RIP Danielle :(
After watching it unfold , the more I had to shake my head, is this the level of script writing at Eastenders.
Was Janine driving round Albert Sq in circles until Danielle was on her mark in the middle of the road. How big is the Sq ? more likely when leaving you take the one road out, either left or right. She should have been long gone before Danielle even got to that bit of the street, not far off the Sq.
Janine was driving around looking for Tiffany.. ricky said they were probably on their way back from the park and Janine was just driving around til she saw them.... and yes you can go quiet fast in the square, Lauren did when she knocked her dad down
Did she actually die? I am sure I read in a post on here that danille had been seen on a web cam filiming episode to be shown in may or was it just a look a like? or maybe ronnie seeing ghosts or something
Did she actually die? I am sure I read in a post on here that danille had been seen on a web cam filiming episode to be shown in may or was it just a look a like? or maybe ronnie seeing ghosts or something
Yeah she dies.. Ronnie goes to her funeral as per the spoilers so yeah she is dead
Thanks for clearing that up Siobhan What a waste of a good story
RIP Danielle it was really really sad :crying:
matt1378
03-04-2009, 11:57
what a sad and dispointing end to the story line, shame on the bosses @ ee
what a sad and dispointing end to the story line, shame on the bosses @ ee
I don't know.. it was a shame, not sure about disappointing... but now we have to put up with more Hard Bitch Ronnie..
Perhaps not, Siobhan, Ronnie has got something concrete to concentrate on now. Before she was eternally mourning her baby, which her dad forced her to give away and then told her had died. Now she will regret not having given Danielle the time of the day while she was alive but has got the chance to say good-bye, which was previously denied to her. And she can let her anger out at Archie, knowing that all the family have this time witnessed what an evil git he is.
I think she gets knocked over by Janine, mirroring what Frank did to Tiffany, Because the spoilers in the mags say something about her getting into her car, with tragedy around the corner. Plus there were rumors going round a couple weeks ago, about this theory.:hmm:
you were correct
RIP Danielle
Perhaps not, Siobhan, Ronnie has got something concrete to concentrate on now. Before she was eternally mourning her baby, which her dad forced her to give away and then told her had died. Now she will regret not having given Danielle the time of the day while she was alive but has got the chance to say good-bye, which was previously denied to her. And she can let her anger out at Archie, knowing that all the family have this time witnessed what an evil git he is.
But now she has to live with a) Danielle dying in her arms and b) the knowledge she helped abort her grandchild... poor woman.. Her dad has a lot to answer for, there is protecting your kids and then there is completely destroying them
True. But I think Ronnie can now start to deal with the events in a different way to what she used to. Just me trying to be a mini psychiatrist, pehaps :)
What happens next... (http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/soaps/eastenders/photos/1/478/16/)
Hmm buried alive in a cofin or buried alive in a load of cement?? Hmm nice EE :ninja:
I know shes hurt but Peggy wanting someone dead? They done a Tanya on her. Peggy is no murderer.
sindydoll
03-04-2009, 22:52
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/a150869/video-lauren-crace-danielle-jones-eastenders.html
Jessie Wallace
04-04-2009, 00:29
I've just watched the ee revealed on bbc3/choice (what ever it's called now!) Totally agree with why they did it, if you've not seen it then go to the bbc i-player and watch it
EastEnders executive producer Diederick Santer has responded to audience reaction following last night's episode of the BBC soap.
The hour special - which featured Peggy (Barbara Windsor) and Archie's (Larry Lamb) wedding as well as the death of Ronnie Mitchell's (Samantha Janus) secret daughter Danielle (Lauren Crace) - was seen by an average of 10.6m and caused an abnormal power surge on at the National Grid.
However, the episode has sparked mixed feelings among some of the viewing audience, with many members of the DS forums expressing their dismay at the plot's ending. The BBC has also confirmed that it has received a number of representations regarding the storyline.
Santer this afternoon said: "Last night's EastEnders contained all the elements of a classic soap episode – a wedding, high drama and tragedy.
"We acknowledge that we didn't deliver the happy ending that many of the audience may have been hoping for, and that for some people this was upsetting. We hope viewers understand that our aim is to deliver the best drama. That doesn't always lead to a happy ending.
He added: "EastEnders - like all good drama - contains a balance of storylines, both happy and sad. We’re proud of the episode, the storyline which built up to it and the way the audience have engaged with it."
matt1378
05-04-2009, 03:42
EastEnders executive producer Diederick Santer has responded to audience reaction following last night's episode of the BBC soap.
The hour special - which featured Peggy (Barbara Windsor) and Archie's (Larry Lamb) wedding as well as the death of Ronnie Mitchell's (Samantha Janus) secret daughter Danielle (Lauren Crace) - was seen by an average of 10.6m and caused an abnormal power surge on at the National Grid.
However, the episode has sparked mixed feelings among some of the viewing audience, with many members of the DS forums expressing their dismay at the plot's ending. The BBC has also confirmed that it has received a number of representations regarding the storyline.
Santer this afternoon said: "Last night's EastEnders contained all the elements of a classic soap episode – a wedding, high drama and tragedy.
"We acknowledge that we didn't deliver the happy ending that many of the audience may have been hoping for, and that for some people this was upsetting. We hope viewers understand that our aim is to deliver the best drama. That doesn't always lead to a happy ending.
He added: "EastEnders - like all good drama - contains a balance of storylines, both happy and sad. We’re proud of the episode, the storyline which built up to it and the way the audience have engaged with it."
thats what i got in reply to my complaint
di marco
06-04-2009, 16:29
i always thought that the writers were killing danielle off cos then the storyline had gone full circle - ronnie thinks daughter is dead, daughter turns up, daughter dies. although i didnt want danielle to die straight away as i thought it would be good to see her bond with ronnie and them to have some time together and then they could kill her off. however after watching thursdays and fridays epis and the ee revealed i now think it was best to kill her off now rather than kill her in a few months time or not at all. if they didnt kill her at all it would all get very boring very quickly, they would bond and nothing else could really be done. if they killed her off in a few months we would get the bonding which everyone wanted to see and it would be nice, but i dont think danielles death would then have as much effect as it will have killing her off at the wedding. killing her off just minutes after ronnie realises shes her daughter makes it more devastating for ronnie as she never had chance to bond with her daughter, it also makes the fall out with archie worse for the rest of the family as its his fault that ronnie never got to know who danielle was, if she was killed in a few months time i dont think everyone would hate archie as much as they do now. at the end of the day, danielle was brought in as a plot device rather than a proper character and so it makes sense to use her to move ronnies character in a different direction rather than the storyline moving both ronnie and danielles characters
di marco
06-04-2009, 16:37
Perhaps not, Siobhan, Ronnie has got something concrete to concentrate on now. Before she was eternally mourning her baby, which her dad forced her to give away and then told her had died. Now she will regret not having given Danielle the time of the day while she was alive but has got the chance to say good-bye, which was previously denied to her. And she can let her anger out at Archie, knowing that all the family have this time witnessed what an evil git he is.
But now she has to live with a) Danielle dying in her arms and b) the knowledge she helped abort her grandchild... poor woman.. Her dad has a lot to answer for, there is protecting your kids and then there is completely destroying them
True. But I think Ronnie can now start to deal with the events in a different way to what she used to. Just me trying to be a mini psychiatrist, pehaps :)
i think it will effect her more now than her daughters "death" before. before she was devastated cos she never got to see her daughter and that her dad hadnt told her, though then she moved on cos she had closure rather than always trying to find her daughter. now though, not only does she have to live with the fact she could have got to know her daughter sooner as she was living near her, she aborted her grandchild and she was quite horrible to her on occassions, she also knows for certain her daughter is dead and she witnessed it happening, not to mention the fact that her dad betrayed her more than she even thought possible. i think this will effect her harder and hopefully for longer than previously. i think she will also blame herself a lot for what happened
You might be right, but do you really want to see a miserable Ronnie for the rest of the year? :(
Thousands of EastEnders fans have signed an online petition to show their unhappiness with the death of Danielle Jones (Lauren Crace).
Danielle was killed off by writers when the character was run over by Janine Butcher last week.
Fan Vicky Cole set up an online petition addressed to executive producer Diederick Santer to protest the storyline.
Cole said: "We'd like to express our disappointment that you have written out Danielle Jones (played by the talented Lauren Crace).
"We, the fans of the show, believe it is a mistake to write out the most pivotal character in possibly the best storyline EastEnders has had."
She added: "Although we realise it may not be possible to change the storyline and bring Lauren back, we hope that you will ensure her character's exit leaves a door open for her return."
Over 6,200 people have signed the letter posted at PetitionOnline.
Santer has said that the soap's producers were "proud" of the episode and the storyline that preceded it.
She died, how can a door be left open for her character to return? :confused: FFS, it is a soap story, yes, would have preferred for mum and daughter to get to know each other and live happily ever after, but it was not meant to be. Get over it.
Is it too late to start a petition to bring back Liam Connor? :hmm:
di marco
06-04-2009, 17:22
these petitions are stupid. how can you bring back a character if theyre dead?! :rolleyes: some people need to get a life, shes gone, get over it
di marco
06-04-2009, 17:23
You might be right, but do you really want to see a miserable Ronnie for the rest of the year? :(
i would prefer that than seeing her being all happy with danielle. we know this is what defines her character and so i think it needs to go deeper this time before she changes
Dose any one know if Ronnie has talked to Joel Danielle birth father :hmm:
di marco
07-04-2009, 08:38
Dose any one know if Ronnie has talked to Joel Danielle birth father :hmm:
dunno, i doubt it
I have not heard his name being mentioned at all in all of this. :nono:
what happened to him anyway?
SarahWakefield
07-04-2009, 23:11
She went to find him at that School Reunion with Christian didn't she? But he didn't turn up, don't think we've heard anything about him since.
JustJodi
07-04-2009, 23:13
Ronnie looked him up a bit before Christmas, and a little girl answered the door( Ronnie told her she had the wrong house , then she decided to take off without speaking to Joel. So my guess is that Ronnie has not had any contact with him since Danielle was born??
That is all I can remember about Joel .Guess he is a family man now,, moved on with his life.:searchme:
SarahWakefield
07-04-2009, 23:15
Oh yeah, I remember that part now too.
di marco
07-04-2009, 23:33
yeh and she sent him that letter (im guessing saying their daughter was dead, i cant really remember?) and archie burnt the one he sent back
EastEnders executive Diederick Santer has explained that Danielle Jones's tragic death last week became an inevitable storyline move.
Hundreds of fans were outraged following the demise of Danielle (Lauren Crace) only minutes after revealing to a devastated Ronnie (Samantha Janus) that she was her daughter.
Speaking of the storyline twist, Santer told Inside Soap: "When we were devising the character, we knew this was one of the possible endings. And as we worked through the story, it became inevitable.
"We loved Danielle and Ronnie together, but the magic is that they're forever out of reach for one another. If Danielle had left without Ronnie finding out who she was, it would have been irritating for the audience. The only way for the character to be permanently gone was to kill her."
He continued: "Every time we imagined a scenario where there was an upbeat resolution, the magic was lost and it all became ordinary. Basically, it diminished both characters - Ronnie had been defined by the loss of her daughter when she was young. This was the only outcome which gave me goosebumps, too - and in the end, you have to listen to your instinct."
The EastEnders chief went on to reveal that if time had allowed, he would have let the story run to nearly a year.
"I'd have liked to have kept the storyline going for longer this year, as it only played out for nine months on screen - a blink of an eye in the EastEnders timescale," he said.
"I'd like to have given it a year or more, as we did with the Max and Stacey affair. But other happenings, such as weddings, meant we had to pull it all forward."
I hope that his statement will now stop people from starting petitions to bring her back :rolleyes:
JustJodi
08-04-2009, 18:42
Perdita,, I agree with what the guy said, but if I read this right there were 41 thousand complaints logged ????????:searchme: :rolleyes: :confused: Not sure that they(EE) could pull a DALLAS storyline..what they did was they killed off a character but brought him back because fans went bonkers ??? they brought him back the next season after his wife wakes up from having a nightmare about his death, and finds him butt naked in the shower :lol: (HEY BRY remember this scene ???)
I still think the writers could have done just a bit better with the story.. just a bit ,, thats not asking for much is it :rotfl:
Really I do not want Danielle back , the story has run its course ( well almost .. we have the funeral to get thru ):rolleyes:
di marco
08-04-2009, 19:35
apparently it was always really the intention to have her die at some point once the storyline had got going, and so even if they hadnt killed her straight away she would have died at some point. yeh ok it was annoying that it was just as ronnie found out but all these people moaning about it would have complained if it had happened in a few months time as well. no storyline is ever going to please everyone, and i dont understand the point in a petition, you cant (realistically) bring someone back once theyve been killed off!
just found out today that Lauren Crace used to go to the same college as me! small world eh!? :eek:
Perdita,, I agree with what the guy said, but if I read this right there were 41 thousand complaints logged ????????:searchme: :rolleyes: :confused: Not sure that they(EE) could pull a DALLAS storyline..what they did was they killed off a character but brought him back because fans went bonkers ??? they brought him back the next season after his wife wakes up from having a nightmare about his death, and finds him butt naked in the shower :lol: (HEY BRY remember this scene ???)
I still think the writers could have done just a bit better with the story.. just a bit ,, thats not asking for much is it :rotfl:
Really I do not want Danielle back , the story has run its course ( well almost .. we have the funeral to get thru ):rolleyes:
EE proved they are not capable of doing a storyline of bringing someone back from the dead. They tried with DEN Watts and failed miserably. What a load of pooh that was and so totally unrealistic.
I don't want her back from the dead... Her death was suppose to be ironic.. Ronnie thinks daughter is dead, finds she is not only to have her die the same day... Ironic!! Besides, Danielle was really boring
Whilst there were allegedly 41,000 complaints about Danielle's death, a lot of posters are also agreeing that it was a pity she was killed off, but this is a soap storyline, not real life and the scriptwriters can now concentrate on making Ronnie have a mental breakdown. I am just wondering whether there would have been complaints if Danielle had not been killed and viewers found the mother/daughter relationship boring. Not 41,000 I dare say, but you can't please all the people all the time. Bringing the character back to life would just be ridiculous, it worked to some extent in Dallas because it was the first time this happened in a soap, but it has now been done so many times and in EE as well, there probably would have been that many complaints about that storyline too then and quite rightly so.
Bad Wolf
15-04-2009, 18:49
is anyone else not bored of this????
it was a storyline in a soap!!! fair enough it wasnt the happy ending many wanted but it did make for high drama, and continues so. i totally understand why danielle had to die- happy people in soap's are boring
Chris_2k11
15-04-2009, 20:51
is anyone else not bored of this????
it was a storyline in a soap!!! fair enough it wasnt the happy ending many wanted but it did make for high drama, and continues so. i totally understand why danielle had to die- happy people in soap's are boringI agree with all this Rachel
just found out today that Lauren Crace used to go to the same college as me! small world eh!? :eek:
wow it is a small world, believe me I know, you should joined me and kaths talk in the shoutbox the other night, it was very werid!
is anyone else not bored of this????
it was a storyline in a soap!!! fair enough it wasnt the happy ending many wanted but it did make for high drama, and continues so. i totally understand why danielle had to die- happy people in soap's are boring
I know what you mean I agree
People need to get over it
41000 complaints about a storyline in a third rate soap just shows how little some folk have to do. I suppose they were the same twits who complained when Dennis Woodman was bumped off bringing an end to all the Shannis nonsense:wall:
sindydoll
16-04-2009, 23:42
sad to see her go but i guess eastenders had no choice in the end
Chloe O'brien
16-04-2009, 23:49
Wait until the complaints they get when it's revealed that Archie is Phil's dad and Phil's the daddy of Heather's baby.
Wait until the complaints they get when it's revealed that Archie is Phil's dad and Phil's the daddy of Heather's baby.
:eek: :eek: :rotfl: :rotfl:
sindydoll
19-04-2009, 17:46
Wait until the complaints they get when it's revealed that Archie is Phil's dad and Phil's the daddy of Heather's baby.
all will be revealed during christmas dinner :lol: :lol: :rotfl:
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