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Siobhan
11-11-2008, 14:17
Two men found guilty of causing Baby P's death

Men and mother cleared of murder but jury finds they caused or allowed death of 17-month-old boy in case that echoes Victoria Climbié affair




The abuse of the child, known as Baby P, was said to have taken place over eight months, during which time the boy was on the child protection register of Haringey – the same local authority that was found to have failed seriously in its duty of care to Victoria, who died eight years ago.
The 27-year-old mother of the boy pleaded guilty to causing or allowing his death at the beginning of the trial in September.
One of the men was the 32-year-old boyfriend of the baby's mother. The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was cleared of murder. The other man was Jason Owen, 37, who lodged in the same house.
Both men have been remanded in custody to be sentenced on December 15.
Last week, on the orders of the judge, Stephen Kramer QC, the jury found the mother and Owen not guilty of murdering the baby on August 3 last year.
The 17-month-old died after months of being used "as a punchbag" and then having his back and ribs broken, the court heard.
He was seen 60 times by health or social workers during that period, around twice a week. However, close to his death he became unrecognisable, had more than 50 injuries or bruises, and an attempt had been made to cover up the crime.
A postmortem examination revealed the boy had a broken back, eight fractured ribs, missing fingernails and toenails, multiple bruises and an injury to the inside of his mouth. He had also swallowed one of his own teeth. The court heard that his back had been broken by slamming him down over a bent knee or a bannister, which would have left him paralysed.
It is claimed he was taken to hospital three times in the months before his death after being repeatedly beaten and abused. The child was last seen by social services on July 30 – when his mother and her boyfriend had smeared him with chocolate to cover up his injuries, according to Owen - and by a paediatrician two days before his death.
Sally O'Neill QC, prosecuting, told the jury that the boy was taken to a child development clinic at St Ann's hospital, Haringey, on August 1.
By that time he had eight fractured ribs and a broken back, injuries that would have left him in terrible pain and unable to move his legs.
He was examined by a consultant paediatrician, Dr Sabah al-Zayyat, who noted that Baby P appeared "cranky" and "miserable" but did not find any indication that he had fractured ribs or a broken back.
However, two medical experts told the court they believed those injuries would have been evident.
At 11.35am on August 3 2007, an ambulance was called to the house. Its crew found Baby P already stiff and blue in his cot. He was taken to North Middlesex hospital where he was pronounced dead at 12.20pm.
The Old Bailey heard he should have been protected by social workers, police and health professionals, but his mother manipulated them with lies and even got away with smearing him with chocolate to hide bruises.
In the 48 hours before the boy was found dead in his blood-spattered cot, it is claimed that a doctor failed to spot his spine was broken.
Gillie Christou, in charge of social workers looking after children on the register in Haringey, told the court she had agreed to keep the baby with his mother.
She said: "I made the decision at the time based on the material in front of me and based on the background to the case."
Mor Dioum, the director of the Victoria Climbié Foundation, set up to improve child protection, today called for a public inquiry into the death and said the case was worse than that of Victoria.
"The signs were there but were not followed,'' he said. "Systematic and operational failures led to the tragic and sad death of such a beautiful child."
A detective in the case told the court the boy had more than 50 injuries, 15 of them to the mouth, and that the boyfriend was "sadistic - fascinated with pain".
The mother was "a slob, completely divorced from reality. She was living in a dream world and put her lover before her child. She closed her eyes to what was going on."
Outside court today, Detective Superintendent Caroline Bates said police errors were made which caused a delay at the start of the abuse inquiry, but these had not been significant to the outcome.
"With hindsight, having the benefit of a major investigation, we know quite clearly that the mother was lying and trying to subvert agencies involved with the family."
In June, "police officers felt very strongly that [Baby P] should not be returned" to his mother, and a police inspector asked twice if the threshold had been reached to start care proceedings.
"This was a huge tragedy which should have been avoided. If we had only known the truth about the adults in the house," said Bates.
In a statement after the verdicts, Sharon Shoesmith, the chair of Haringey local safeguarding children board, said that in line with government guidelines an independent review into what happened had been set up. Every recommendation had been acted upon, she said.
"This was a young life cut tragically short and our thoughts are with his father and family,'' she said.
"We worked hard to support the family – social workers, health visitors, doctors and nurses all saw him and his mother regularly.
"We made arrangements to protect him, monitoring his progress, and organised for the mother to go on a parenting course. We arranged for a family friend to help with his care, a childminder to look after him four days a week and report any suspicious injuries."
She added that the mother appeared to be cooperating.
Dr Jane Collins, the chief executive of Great Ormond Street hospital, which provided paediatric services to the child, said independent experts were commissioned to looks at decisions and actions of medical staff.
"It is clear that more should have been done when the child was seen by a paediatrician two days before the child died,'' she said.
"The review process is important in understanding what happened and how procedures can be strengthened for the future. Where we have needed to act, we have done so."
Lynne Featherstone, the local MP, said Baby P had fallen through "safety net after safety net".
"The Children's Act was borne out of tragedy in Haringey after the death of Victoria Climbié,'' she said.
"Yet eight years after her death the law created to stop this happening again has failed to prevent a similar tragedy in the same borough.
"We must therefore have a fully independent investigation by the children's commissioner into what went so terribly wrong."
Following the verdicts, the judge excused members of the jury from serving for 10 years, telling them: "You have heard evidence of a harrowing nature and you have seen things which in the course of your everyday life you would not be expected to see."

Trinity
11-11-2008, 14:54
Safety nets shouldn't have holes.

That poor wee mite had a short life filled with neglect and pain.

And we think this is a civilised country!

StarsOfCCTV
11-11-2008, 19:18
How can you not notice a back or ribs are broken? :confused:

Abbie
11-11-2008, 19:32
This is just awful, makes me really sad to hear stories like this

di marco
11-11-2008, 22:18
How can you not notice a back or ribs are broken? :confused:

thats what i was thinking! how did the doctor who saw him 2 days before his death not notice?!

Chloe O'brien
11-11-2008, 22:31
Yet another sad and tragic end to a young innocent life, because those who were supposed to care for him didn't and Social Services let him down despite many complaints from the childminder. Sadly this won't be the last case we hear about.

JustJodi
11-11-2008, 23:04
The social services should do some jail time as well for being so BLIND to all the obvious facts in front of them, a child smeared with chocolate, and the doctors should have their license suspended for OVERLOOKING something like a broken spine and broken ribs, the bruises had to be horrific. I am not a doctor but I am sure I could see a child in terrible pain...
This just makes me so DAMN MAD:angry: :angry: :angry: , I have friends who are dying to have a child,, some people are just UNFIT to have childern,,I hope they bring back capitol punishment or public hanging for these people who killed this innocent child:(

miccisy
12-11-2008, 15:19
You know what i cant beleive it. The mum is getting away with it. Im sorry but in my opinion she should get the worst punishment. She might not have hurt him but she let it happen.

No way am i gunna slag off social services because they do a lot of good in this country and in my opinion social services should not have to be called. The parents of the child should look after him not someone who comes out and makes sure that the child is fine. I do not blame social services at all. The mother knew what was happening and did nothing. If she didnt want to look after a child she should not have had one!!!

And im sorry but when people say "these mens names cannot be revealed for legal reasons" thats crap. They did the crime so they should have to stand in front of the country and be punished for what they did not hidden away.

In my opinion the mother should get more jail time than the men who commited the crime because she was the childs primary carer and did nothing to stop it from happening. But no doubt the next thing will be "the mother had PND or was mentally unstable" which means she gets away with it. F**k that. She was there when it happens. She knew it was wrong and still let them do it.

Siobhan
12-11-2008, 15:22
I agree this should not have happened but in this case the child was on the high risk list for 9 months and still was left with the mother so YES social services are to blame for this too and the doctor who could not diagnose a broken back.. shame on all of them

Abbie
12-11-2008, 23:16
I was watching more on this on the news and im so digusted by this, but even more it really sadens me that I started crying listening to what happened

moonstorm
13-11-2008, 10:45
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1925012.ece

In case anyone wants to sign it.

Hollie-x
13-11-2008, 17:46
You know what i cant beleive it. The mum is getting away with it. Im sorry but in my opinion she should get the worst punishment. She might not have hurt him but she let it happen.

No way am i gunna slag off social services because they do a lot of good in this country and in my opinion social services should not have to be called. The parents of the child should look after him not someone who comes out and makes sure that the child is fine. I do not blame social services at all. The mother knew what was happening and did nothing. If she didnt want to look after a child she should not have had one!!!

And im sorry but when people say "these mens names cannot be revealed for legal reasons" thats crap. They did the crime so they should have to stand in front of the country and be punished for what they did not hidden away.

In my opinion the mother should get more jail time than the men who commited the crime because she was the childs primary carer and did nothing to stop it from happening. But no doubt the next thing will be "the mother had PND or was mentally unstable" which means she gets away with it. F**k that. She was there when it happens. She knew it was wrong and still let them do it.

I'm glad you put that bit (:

my mum does a lot of work surrounding Social Services - she's a family support worker but does work with them a lot. And to be honest, yeah in this case I really cannot believe how blind they were, but there are a lot of good things that do come from Social Services that don't get talked about.

I think this is absolutely disgusting, i don't know how anyone can do this.

Katy
13-11-2008, 22:30
I knwo social services do a great deal for the country and it is a shocking statistic in its self the amount of cases that they actually have to deal with, but in this case there seems to be soo many situations where it could have been picked up by them or nurses or doctors even the childminder. There were clearly early signs of abuse and it does make you wonder if a bit more speed or anything could have stopped it.

JustJodi
14-11-2008, 16:25
I think we can afford to SLAG off the social services,, obviously the people need some intensive re training to be able to assess certain types of abuse, and nip it in the bud. If that means they have to remove the child from harms way then so be it, leaving the child or children with parents who are gonna lie to cover their own arses ( cos they are most likely guilty ) is asking for trouble.
Nurses in A&E are normally pretty good spotting signs of abuse, and they SHOULD REPORT IT, AND Doctors who see signs ,, SHOULD REPORT IT too,, If we contiune to sugar coat these abusive parents, there are going to be more headlines about dead children:angry:

Hollie-x
14-11-2008, 17:22
I think we can afford to SLAG off the social services,, obviously the people need some intensive re training to be able to assess certain types of abuse, and nip it in the bud. If that means they have to remove the child from harms way then so be it, leaving the child or children with parents who are gonna lie to cover their own arses ( cos they are most likely guilty ) is asking for trouble.
Nurses in A&E are normally pretty good spotting signs of abuse, and they SHOULD REPORT IT, AND Doctors who see signs ,, SHOULD REPORT IT too,, If we contiune to sugar coat these abusive parents, there are going to be more headlines about dead children:angry:

In this case absolutely, i was saying to me mum this morning, a qualified doctor should easily have spotted a broken back for god's sakes. But the social workers should seriously be sacked for this. If they were on the child protection register to start with then there's no way that this stuff should have or even could have gone un noticed.

Chloe O'brien
14-11-2008, 22:07
The problem is that this country has come to PC. Everytime a case like this is brought out into the public we here about people knowing that or had suspected that a child was being abused yet nothing was done until it was too late. What was the Father doing? Why didn't he go and take the child of the Mother and her boyfriend. We need to stop turning a blind eye if we think or see a child being abused then we have to step in. I would rather get into trouble from the police for trying to protect a child than sit and read about the innocent angel's life in the newspapers while I have my cornflakes.