View Full Version : How Much Jail Time Should These People Get ???
JustJodi
22-08-2008, 13:10
I know we have discussed this before but lets take a poll.. we have seen baby beaters , pedophiles, rapists, and some seriously neglect parents, get nothing but a little time in the BIG HOUSE( ie jail/prison/), lets discuss why we feel their punishment is or isnt fit for the crime . thanks
I put down 4-8 as you have dumped neglect with paedophiles.. Paedophiles should get like.. depend on the level of neglect too.. should someone who turned their back for a few mins (in the case of Jamie Bolger mum) get the same sentence as someone who leaves their kids for hours/days on end (in case of the mcCanns)
JustJodi
22-08-2008, 13:31
I put down 4-8 as you have dumped neglect with paedophiles.. Paedophiles should get like.. depend on the level of neglect too.. should someone who turned their back for a few mins (in the case of Jamie Bolger mum) get the same sentence as someone who leaves their kids for hours/days on end (in case of the mcCanns)
I went back and corrected it .. hope it is a bit more clear,, right now I should not even be posting this stuff, my mind is all over the place LOL
Willful neglect is right up there with child abusers in my book.
I think it does depend on the crime and the effect on the victim. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say people who have indecent images of children should get a lesser sentence than people who physically or sexually abuse children. How much less I don't know. The punishment has to fit the crime.
DaVeyWaVey
22-08-2008, 15:56
It depends on the crime, for what sentence they get in my opinion. Many crimes are varied in its events, its effect on the victim and the circumstances that surround it, so it's tough for me to vote on the poll, because the punishment should depend on the circumstances of an individual crime.
What I do know though is that prison sentences in this country are disgusting. The thread on the baby beater is a perfect example - 6 months is frankly DISGUSTING. Prison sentences are too leniant in this country the majority of the time.
The rest of their life for murder, definitely. I'd give longer for manslaughter than the courts do as well. Peadophiles and child abuse I'd give around 10-25 years depending on how many children are involved in each case.
Chloe O'brien
23-08-2008, 01:10
I'm talking from the heart here, who has had family members suffers from sexual abuse. These fookers should have their willie wongs chopped off if they can't be kept in a 5 by 4 cell until they croak it. As for parents who leave their children unattended. They should be jailed between 4 to 8 years. I don't give a flying monkey's how much money the McCann's have. They left their children unattended and they should be jailed for it. If it had been a druggie single Mom living in a high-rise flat she would have been doing a 6 months sting in Holloway. Where is the justice. You are a parent regardless of you're income or status and you're job is to protect you're children from the cradle to the grave. It does not take into consideration you're disposable income. If your not prepared to look after children 24/7 then don't have them. End of Story.
anyone who targets someone who's too vulnerable to fight back, deserves all they get! total monster - life in prison imo
Behemoth
27-08-2008, 11:15
I don't always agree with prison as punishment.
There are always reasons why somebody has committed a crime and I find it difficult to assign different sentences to different crimes and ranking them by seriousness.
I believe that criminals should only be locked in prison if they're freedom would put lives at risk or that it is likely they would re-offend, rather than just to punish them for their crime.
Longer sentences risk the prisoner becoming institutionalised and re-offending when released. More focus should be placed on the rehabilitation of the prisoner and finding out why they committed the crime instead of assuming, for example, all murderers deserve an automatic life sentence.
the sentencing system im this country definitly need reform in my opinion there are some ridulasly harsh sentences for petty crimes that are getting the same length in jail as proper criminals. Prison is a too easy option. There should be other options for those not dangerous to make room for the real offenders and then there would be enough space for them to rot for natrual life, i mean the mandatory life sentence is pants if you know from day one 25 years doesnt mean 25 yewars or so on.
Jail is no good for anyone atm - its too much like a hotel. If you are going to send someone to jail for a crime they've committed, the jail should be exactly that - a punishment and not a free hotel provided to them by the tax payer and law abiding British Citizen. But of course - if we did that, then the "good old" human rights activists would cause a huge stink and tell us we aren't allowed to do that as it contravenes their human rights - doesn't matter what they'd done to deserve being sent to jail in the first place.
A huge reform is needed and when a judge says that someone will be sent to prison for 10 yrs, then it should be 10yrs, not half that time as it currently seems to be. Judge hands down a sentence and the criminal knows that they'll be out in half that time at least.
HoneyBee
31-08-2008, 19:00
They should get life, and it's a shame hanging was abolished because that would have been my next option.
DaVeyWaVey
31-08-2008, 19:19
They should get life, and it's a shame hanging was abolished because that would have been my next option.
I don't think 'hanging' people as punishment would necessarily work.. What if the criminal who was hanged was later found out to be innocent? ... a recent example - the Jill Dando murder case. That guy who was jailed for doing it (forgot his name) was found innocent when he appealed - if he was hanged all those years ago and was then found innocent, what would a police statement say? ... Ooops ... we got it wrong? .. they would have taken an innocent man's life.
Taking a criminal's life would make us as bad as them in my view. Prisons should get tougher in my view. Life should mean life. No luxuries, no tvs installed in cells etc... prisons should become punishment again and should be a way in which criminals can think over what they have done in a harsh and unsettling environment.
A Championship footballer has been jailed for seven years and four months for causing the deaths of two children by dangerous driving.
Former Plymouth Argyle goalkeeper Luke McCormick, 25, admitted causing the deaths of Arron Peak, 10, and Ben Peak, eight, and driving with excess alcohol.
The brothers, from Partington, Greater Manchester, died in a crash on the M6 in Staffordshire on 7 June.
McCormick entered his guilty pleas at Stoke-on-Trent Crown Court earlier.
Judge Paul Glenn had told him a custodial sentence was inevitable.
The court heard that when breathalysed McCormick, who had been returning from a wedding, was found to have 74 micrograms of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath.
The legal limit is 35 micrograms of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath.
Friends and relatives of the Peak family were at the court
The brothers and their father Philip Peak, 37, were in a Toyota Previa with friends, travelling to Silverstone racetrack, when the crash happened.
Their car was involved in a collision with McCormick's Range Rover at about 0545 BST on the southbound carriageway of the motorway between junctions 15 and 16, near Keele services.
Mr Peak, 37, who was driving, was seriously injured in the crash.
McCormick kept his head bowed and covered his face with his hand as the court heard he told eyewitnesses at the scene: "I am so sorry, I'm sorry. I just fell asleep. I fell asleep, I'm sorry."
Before the crash other motorists noticed him "driving like an idiot" and estimated his speed at around 90mph (144km/h).
McCormick, a former England youth international, had his contract with Plymouth cancelled "by mutual consent" a month after the crash.
Friends and relatives of the boys were at the court to hear McCormick plead guilty.
It will not bring the boys back to life but hopefully sends out the message that NOBODY should DRINK AND DRIVE
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