Steven to become a murderer??

[Perdita]

EastEnders' resident teenage psycho Steven Beale stoops to a new low when he attempts to murder his nana Pat by smothering her to death.

Next week, viewers will finally discover that Steven, played by 19-year-old Aaron Sidwell, has been hiding his sister Lucy (Melissa Suffield) from their family in a remote caravan - and it's his gran, Pat (Pam St Clement) who unearths his deceit.

Following her shocking discovery, Pat is accidentally run over by Roxy Mitchell (Rita Simons) and finds herself laid up with a broken leg. When Steven visits her in hospital, he draws the cubicle curtains and smothers her with a pillow in an attempt to silence her from revealing his secret.

An EastEnders source told DS: "Steven hits rock bottom when Pat finds out that he's been hiding Lucy for all these weeks while his family have been frantically searching for her.

"He desperately wants Ian all to himself, but when Pat realises that Steven knows where Lucy is, he takes drastic steps to prevent his beloved nan from revealing all to Ian."

They added: "He goes from confused to psycho in a matter of minutes, grabbing a pillow and pushing it onto her face."

Sidwell was axed from the soap in February when it was also revealed he would become embroiled in a bisexual storyline involving his step-uncle, Christian Clarke (John Partridge). Over the weekend, he openly backed the decision to drop his character.

[Perdita]

EastEnders star Aaron Sidwell has admitted that soap chiefs made the right decision by axing his character.

The actor made a dramatic debut as unstable teen Steven Beale on the BBC One programme in September last year, but producers have now decided that the character's story arc has run its course.

"They really did try to keep Steven in," Aaron told the Daily Star Sunday. "The problem is EastEnders is a realistic show, so with Steven being a larger-than-life character it was always going to be hard having him doing the same crazy things day in, day out. :rotfl: :rotfl: (sorry to those agreeing with this statement) :lol:

"I wasn't expecting to stay on the Square forever. It was my first big job out of drama college and I couldn't have asked for a better start in the industry. I've had a great time and the character isn't being killed off, so who knows what might happen a few years down the line. There's always the possibility I might be asked back one day."

Sidwell's final scenes will air in May.

[Dutchgirl]

OMG he is two faced. Weird though he has a hard time keeping his face straight during the Beale diner with Stacey. But he kept Lucy secret all this time without as much as a clue. This is a bit far fetched.

[Siobhan]

I knew it.. I said all along that Steven was putting on the "I am better" act.. he is still a headcase and should never have been let out of the clinic

[sindydoll]

i was reading this on ds omg its gonna be gripping

[Timalay]

OMG he is two faced. Weird though he has a hard time keeping his face straight during the Beale diner with Stacey. But he kept Lucy secret all this time without as much as a clue. This is a bit far fetched.

How is he two faced?

[Siobhan]

OMG he is two faced. Weird though he has a hard time keeping his face straight during the Beale diner with Stacey. But he kept Lucy secret all this time without as much as a clue. This is a bit far fetched.

How is he two faced?

for the reason above.. it think.. but he has some neck.. he told Jane that Ian hit Lucy and that is why she ran off.. Ian is out of his mind with worry and this crazy guy not only knows where she is but is helping her. He is not only deceiving his family but carrying on like nothing is happening.. and then he tries to kill his Gran cause he want his dad to himself.. the same dad he imprisoned and blamed for his mum's death.. the same Dad who did nothing but love him and still wasn't good enough for Steven.. he went to see his "real dad" and just cause it didn't work out.. he wants Ian back.. The guy is a whole lot of crazy

[Joanne]

I knew it.. I said all along that Steven was putting on the "I am better" act.. he is still a headcase and should never have been let out of the clinic

I've said all along he's not ill - just rotten.

Still, it's bound to turn out that it's an accident cos Steven really loves his Nana Pat and wouldn't intentionally hurt her!

[Siobhan]

I knew it.. I said all along that Steven was putting on the "I am better" act.. he is still a headcase and should never have been let out of the clinic

I've said all along he's not ill - just rotten.

Still, it's bound to turn out that it's an accident cos Steven really loves his Nana Pat and wouldn't intentionally hurt her!

Of course not.. he also loves his Dad and wouldn't intentionally hurt him.. it is not like he would hide his daughter somewhere and put him through the pain of viewing dead bodies, would he??

[Perdita]

I knew it.. I said all along that Steven was putting on the "I am better" act.. he is still a headcase and should never have been let out of the clinic

I've said all along he's not ill - just rotten.

Still, it's bound to turn out that it's an accident cos Steven really loves his Nana Pat and wouldn't intentionally hurt her!

Of course not.. he also loves his Dad and wouldn't intentionally hurt him.. it is not like he would hide his daughter somewhere and put him through the pain of viewing dead bodies, would he??

It will be an accident like the shooting was (not). :rolleyes:

[Siobhan]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

[Lizzie Brookes]

OMG he is two faced. Weird though he has a hard time keeping his face straight during the Beale diner with Stacey. But he kept Lucy secret all this time without as much as a clue. This is a bit far fetched.

It is far fetched. Its more likely he was uncomfortable about Christian winding him up about being gay. This is way over the top now and getting really silly.

[Lizzie Brookes]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I knew it.. I said all along that Steven was putting on the "I am better" act.. he is still a headcase and should never have been let out of the clinic

I don't think that was an act. He did get better for a while. He probably does this because he can't control his anger or because he went off his pills anf got ill again. Nobody can fool merntal health professionals into believing them well when they are not. I suppose someone will say next that he faked all that shaking in the car. I did hear there are more twists and turns to come. Nothing is clear cut and simple not that I can condone this - I can't. It is wrong but i don't believe he has time to create a new masterplan while dating Stacey, kissing Christian and working in the cafe/chip shop.

[Hollie-x]

Eastenders & realistic are to words that are not meant to be in the same sentence!

[Perdita]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

I am sorry but I have been very angry in my time but never, ever, considered killing somebody, however much they have hurt me or however much desperate I felt. And I don't understand what the nutter Sean hitting his dad has to do with Steven trying to murder his gran? :searchme:

[parkerman]

i don't believe he has time to create a new masterplan while dating Stacey, kissing Christian and working in the cafe/chip shop.
Why ever not? Do those three things take up 24 hours a day?

[Siobhan]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

Lizzie wake up!! Sean has a fight with his dad and his dad died as a result, he did not delibertly kill him.. Steven on the other hand, it putting a pillow over his gran's face... that is murder!!!!!

[Lizzie Brookes]

Eastenders & realistic are to words that are not meant to be in the same sentence!

I agree. I think this is down to bad scriptwriting ruining Steven's charecter.

[Lizzie Brookes]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

Lizzie wake up!! Sean has a fight with his dad and his dad died as a result, he did not delibertly kill him.. Steven on the other hand, it putting a pillow over his gran's face... that is murder!!!!!

We don't know that. It could be exaggeration and he probably doesn't go through with it. Anyway Sean at the moment is doing much worse to Gus. There may be lots of ins and outs to this buisiness. Obviously I can't condone iof he does wrong but I don't hate him eiither. He's still not fully well clearly.

[Siobhan]

I knew it.. I said all along that Steven was putting on the "I am better" act.. he is still a headcase and should never have been let out of the clinic

I don't think that was an act. He did get better for a while. He probably does this because he can't control his anger or because he went off his pills anf got ill again. Nobody can fool merntal health professionals into believing them well when they are not. I suppose someone will say next that he faked all that shaking in the car. I did hear there are more twists and turns to come. Nothing is clear cut and simple not that I can condone this - I can't. It is wrong but i don't believe he has time to create a new masterplan while dating Stacey, kissing Christian and working in the cafe/chip shop.

it is a total act... he keeps Lucy away from Ian (mmmm wonder why he thought Lucy was Ian's fav, could it be cause the saw how they were together when he had is dad locked up).....
So he just did this on the spur of the moment??? He didn't plan it, so it is not his fault that lucy contacted him and he decided not to tell anyone. It is not his fault that his Gran found out and he decides to kill her so she won't tell anyone.. of course not.. He didn't bring the pillow to the hospital, it was just there... Lucy probably gave it to him... for god sake, the guy is ILL and he left the clinic way way way to early

[Lizzie Brookes]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

I am sorry but I have been very angry in my time but never, ever, considered killing somebody, however much they have hurt me or however much desperate I felt. And I don't understand what the nutter Sean hitting his dad has to do with Steven trying to murder his gran? :searchme:

Nor have I but neither of us are mentally ill.

[Siobhan]

Eastenders & realistic are to words that are not meant to be in the same sentence!

I agree. I think this is down to bad scriptwriting ruining Steven's charecter.

they didn't ruin his character... he started as a nutter and goes out as one too.. He was acting as been well.. just like May and Stella... they are all "perfect" but deep down totally crazy!!

[Lizzie Brookes]

I knew it.. I said all along that Steven was putting on the "I am better" act.. he is still a headcase and should never have been let out of the clinic

I don't think that was an act. He did get better for a while. He probably does this because he can't control his anger or because he went off his pills anf got ill again. Nobody can fool merntal health professionals into believing them well when they are not. I suppose someone will say next that he faked all that shaking in the car. I did hear there are more twists and turns to come. Nothing is clear cut and simple not that I can condone this - I can't. It is wrong but i don't believe he has time to create a new masterplan while dating Stacey, kissing Christian and working in the cafe/chip shop.

it is a total act... he keeps Lucy away from Ian (mmmm wonder why he thought Lucy was Ian's fav, could it be cause the saw how they were together when he had is dad locked up).....
So he just did this on the spur of the moment??? He didn't plan it, so it is not his fault that lucy contacted him and he decided not to tell anyone. It is not his fault that his Gran found out and he decides to kill her so she won't tell anyone.. of course not.. He didn't bring the pillow to the hospital, it was just there... Lucy probably gave it to him... for god sake, the guy is ILL and he left the clinic way way way to early

I am not going to argue with you. I agree he is still unwell and of course I can't comdone him trying to kill Pat or anything. I just think this is lazy scriptwriting and an over the top storyline. Also remember Tanya diliberately tried to kill Max but didn't go through with it.

[Siobhan]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

I am sorry but I have been very angry in my time but never, ever, considered killing somebody, however much they have hurt me or however much desperate I felt. And I don't understand what the nutter Sean hitting his dad has to do with Steven trying to murder his gran? :searchme:

Nor have I but neither of us are mentally ill.

eh!! I thought you said he wasn't ill???

[Lizzie Brookes]

Eastenders & realistic are to words that are not meant to be in the same sentence!

I agree. I think this is down to bad scriptwriting ruining Steven's charecter.

they didn't ruin his character... he started as a nutter and goes out as one too.. He was acting as been well.. just like May and Stella... they are all "perfect" but deep down totally crazy!!

I hated Stella for what she did to Ben. I was sorry for May and I can't help sympathising with Steven either. I'm off to the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread.

[Perdita]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

Lizzie wake up!! Sean has a fight with his dad and his dad died as a result, he did not delibertly kill him.. Steven on the other hand, it putting a pillow over his gran's face... that is murder!!!!!

We don't know that. It could be exaggeration and he probably doesn't go through with it. Anyway Sean at the moment is doing much worse to Gus. There may be lots of ins and outs to this buisiness. Obviously I can't condone iof he does wrong but I don't hate him eiither. He's still not fully well clearly.

Lizzie, Steven has NEVER been well, he has been doing daft things since he arrived on Albert Square and his spell in the clinic was obviously not long enough. Did they know about him shooting Jane, did they know he was torturing his stepsister with images of her dead mother, did they know that he held Ian hostage? Probably not, that is why he came back so quickly. You might like him best but the truth is he is a nasty piece of work, not much different to Sean in my opinion as he is holding Lucy hidden somewhere the same as Sean is holding Gus against his will. :wall:

[Lizzie Brookes]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

I am sorry but I have been very angry in my time but never, ever, considered killing somebody, however much they have hurt me or however much desperate I felt. And I don't understand what the nutter Sean hitting his dad has to do with Steven trying to murder his gran? :searchme:

Nor have I but neither of us are mentally ill.

eh!! I thought you said he wasn't ill???

He was ill. He got better. Now he is ill again. I don't think getting better was an act. He did get better. Nobody can fool a mental health professional into thinking otherwise. He probably had a relapse after getting better for a while - he did throw away his medication after all.

[Lizzie Brookes]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

Lizzie wake up!! Sean has a fight with his dad and his dad died as a result, he did not delibertly kill him.. Steven on the other hand, it putting a pillow over his gran's face... that is murder!!!!!

We don't know that. It could be exaggeration and he probably doesn't go through with it. Anyway Sean at the moment is doing much worse to Gus. There may be lots of ins and outs to this buisiness. Obviously I can't condone iof he does wrong but I don't hate him eiither. He's still not fully well clearly.

Lizzie, Steven has NEVER been well, he has been doing daft things since he arrived on Albert Square and his spell in the clinic was obviously not long enough. Did they know about him shooting Jane, did they know he was torturing his stepsister with images of her dead mother, did they know that he held Ian hostage? Probably not, that is why he came back so quickly. You might like him best but the truth is he is a nasty piece of work, not much different to Sean in my opinion as he is holding Lucy hidden somewhere the same as Sean is holding Gus against his will. :wall:

Both have their good moments. Sean does love his sister andd support her and he truly loved Tanya. He does not bully or hit women though what he is doing to Gus i agree is unforgivable. Lucy is Steven's half sister by the way, not his stepsister. He was unwell when he did what he did to Ian. Ian knew this or he wouldn't have reconciled with him. Jane's shooting was accdental. He was definitely better for a while - if this was a master plan, why try and kill himself in the garage. It was chance that Stacey saw and stopped him and chance that Ian reconciled with him. He did not know Stacey would tell Ian about the attempted suicide. He didn't plan those two things to lull anyone into a false sense of security.

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Well Sean did manslaughter his dad - he hit him and he fell of the ladder because of delayed reaction so I suppose it can't be any worse than that. Anyone - normal or ill will do dangerous things when desperate or maybe when angry.

Lizzie wake up!! Sean has a fight with his dad and his dad died as a result, he did not delibertly kill him.. Steven on the other hand, it putting a pillow over his gran's face... that is murder!!!!!

We don't know that. It could be exaggeration and he probably doesn't go through with it. Anyway Sean at the moment is doing much worse to Gus.

I agree what Sean is doing to Gus is horrible, but how is that worse than killing someone??

[Perdita]

[quote=Lizzie Brookes;569941]

Nor have I but neither of us are mentally ill.

eh!! I thought you said he wasn't ill???

He was ill. He got better. Now he is ill again. I don't think getting better was an act. He did get better. Nobody can fool a mental health professional into thinking otherwise. He probably had a relapse after getting better for a while - he did throw away his medication after all.

How do you know I am not mentally ill? Could put you in touch with loads of people that will very easily confirm this. :rotfl: :rotfl:

As for mental health professionals - they have been fooled for the past century and will be fooled for the next too by some people. I quoted loads of examples on another thread, mentally ill people have been released from mental institutes to rape, assault and kill again and again. It is a fact of life.

[Perdita]

Eastenders & realistic are to words that are not meant to be in the same sentence!

I agree. I think this is down to bad scriptwriting ruining Steven's charecter.

they didn't ruin his character... he started as a nutter and goes out as one too.. He was acting as been well.. just like May and Stella... they are all "perfect" but deep down totally crazy!!

I hated Stella for what she did to Ben. I was sorry for May and I can't help sympathising with Steven either. I'm off to the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread. Hope you are not too lonely. :lol:

[Lizzie Brookes]

Eastenders & realistic are to words that are not meant to be in the same sentence!

I agree. I think this is down to bad scriptwriting ruining Steven's charecter.

they didn't ruin his character... he started as a nutter and goes out as one too.. He was acting as been well.. just like May and Stella... they are all "perfect" but deep down totally crazy!!

I hated Stella for what she did to Ben. I was sorry for May and I can't help sympathising with Steven either. I'm off to the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread. Hope you are not too lonely. :lol:

Don't worry. I am not. There are tons of people on there who like me do not condone Steven's actions but do have sympathy for him and empathy with him.

[Siobhan]

Don't worry. I am not. There are tons of people on there who like me do not condone Steven's actions but do have sympathy for him and empathy with him.

How can you sympathy for him cause he is ill.. Stella was ill too so what is the difference??? Sean is clearly ill too (it is possible he has inherited his mum's illness) but you don't have sympathy for either of them but you do Steven??

[parkerman]

Hi Lizzie. So is everyone who disagrees with you stupid then?

From Digital Spy:

"Hi Daniel. It's good to meet you. I'm Lizzie. I've been reading through this thread ever since it was put up and have only just recently managed to join Digital Spy. Try to ignore it if people slate Aaron/Steven - don't even bother to read the threads. I don't. Actually myself and Lennie were the only two Steven fans on the Soap, Drama and Spoilers boards and I've endured similar stupidity from people who dislike Steven."

[Lizzie Brookes]

Don't worry. I am not. There are tons of people on there who like me do not condone Steven's actions but do have sympathy for him and empathy with him.

How can you sympathy for him cause he is ill.. Stella was ill too so what is the difference??? Sean is clearly ill too (it is possible he has inherited his mum's illness) but you don't have sympathy for either of them but you do Steven??

I sometimes like Sean. I was sorry for him when Tanya finished with him and when he admitted to manslaughtering his father. I don't like what Sean is doing - bullying Gus - but that doesn't mean that my sympathy for his problems is any less. As for Stella she did abuse a young child so I have to be angry at her for that but it is possible that she too had her problems. As for May it is right she was arrested for what she did to Dawn but I still have sympathy with her sometimes.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Hi Lizzie. So is everyone who disagrees with you stupid then?

From Digital Spy:

"Hi Daniel. It's good to meet you. I'm Lizzie. I've been reading through this thread ever since it was put up and have only just recently managed to join Digital Spy. Try to ignore it if people slate Aaron/Steven - don't even bother to read the threads. I don't. Actually myself and Lennie were the only two Steven fans on the Soap, Drama and Spoilers boards and I've endured similar stupidity from people who dislike Steven."

I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to those who slate him on DS - saying the actor is as wooden as a coffee table etc.

[Perdita]

Hi Lizzie. So is everyone who disagrees with you stupid then?

From Digital Spy:

"Hi Daniel. It's good to meet you. I'm Lizzie. I've been reading through this thread ever since it was put up and have only just recently managed to join Digital Spy. Try to ignore it if people slate Aaron/Steven - don't even bother to read the threads. I don't. Actually myself and Lennie were the only two Steven fans on the Soap, Drama and Spoilers boards and I've endured similar stupidity from people who dislike Steven."

You must do because you are replying all the time. :confused:

[Lizzie Brookes]

No. I wasn't on the forum for a few minutes now actually - I was talking to mum. Look, we will always disagree on Steven. Sometimes that is the way it is. I still will not believe something till I see it for myself. Let us just just wait and see what happens first before saying anything.

[StarsOfCCTV]

:lol::lol: like it will be an accident that he fell on top of his granny face with a pillow..

Wow. Lot of action while I've been offline :lol:

To be honest, I think when you put a pillow over someone's face, generally the aim would be to kill them..:p He's ill after all, and in his desperation he probably thinks it's the right thing to do to 'protect' Lucy by any means possible.

[Perdita]

No. I wasn't on the forum for a few minutes now actually - I was talking to mum. Look, we will always disagree on Steven. Sometimes that is the way it is. I still will not believe something till I see it for myself. Let us just just wait and see what happens first before saying anything.

I have found so far that what has been reported to happen in a soap on Digital Spy and other website like it and the tabloids or soap magazines has happened and I therefore believe that Steven will try to smother Pat with a pillow, he will fail and quickly puddle off back to New Zealand or wherever, so you will need to find somebody else to love in this soap.

[Lizzie Brookes]

No. I wasn't on the forum for a few minutes now actually - I was talking to mum. Look, we will always disagree on Steven. Sometimes that is the way it is. I still will not believe something till I see it for myself. Let us just just wait and see what happens first before saying anything.

I have found so far that what has been reported to happen in a soap on Digital Spy and other website like it and the tabloids or soap magazines has happened and I therefore believe that Steven will try to smother Pat with a pillow, he will fail and quickly puddle off back to New Zealand or wherever, so you will need to find somebody else to love in this soap.

I will believe it when it is shown on screen though I agree that what is usually written in a magazine happens.

I do not "love" Steven. I am sorry he is leaving but very glad May Wright, another favourite of mine is to return. I remember getting annoyed that May had left but then Steven turned up and I was distracted so now I'll be distracted again by May.

[Joanne]

Eastenders & realistic are to words that are not meant to be in the same sentence!

I agree. I think this is down to bad scriptwriting ruining Steven's charecter.

they didn't ruin his character... he started as a nutter and goes out as one too.. He was acting as been well.. just like May and Stella... they are all "perfect" but deep down totally crazy!!

I hated Stella for what she did to Ben. I was sorry for May and I can't help sympathising with Steven either. I'm off to the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread. Hope you are not too lonely. :lol:

Don't worry. I am not. There are tons of people on there who like me do not condone Steven's actions but do have sympathy for him and empathy with him.

Tons? Don't think so, less than a dozen regular posters on that thread.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Whatever you say.

[Pinkbanana]

Hi Lizzie. So is everyone who disagrees with you stupid then?

From Digital Spy:

"Hi Daniel. It's good to meet you. I'm Lizzie. I've been reading through this thread ever since it was put up and have only just recently managed to join Digital Spy. Try to ignore it if people slate Aaron/Steven - don't even bother to read the threads. I don't. Actually myself and Lennie were the only two Steven fans on the Soap, Drama and Spoilers boards and I've endured similar stupidity from people who dislike Steven."

I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to those who slate him on DS - saying the actor is as wooden as a coffee table etc.


Such stupidity on here eh??? Its called having an opinion, and expressing it, Lizzie!!! You obviously can't see the wood for the trees regarding Steven - you just see what you want to see, which is fair enough. I think Steven has been ill all along and he is a very loose cannon....I definitely can believe he is capable of inflicting harm on others, especially if backed into a corner - now am I stupid for holding that opinion???

[sindydoll]

i wonder if he will be killed off

[Lizzie Brookes]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

[Lizzie Brookes]

i wonder if he will be killed off

No - Aaron said he wouldn't be.

[Pinkbanana]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

I didnt look on any other thread than this one...I just think its out of order to state people who dare not to agree with your slightly tainted opinion of Steven are stupid.

[Perdita]

i wonder if he will be killed off

No - Aaron said he wouldn't be.

You not waiting to see it happen now and believe what has been written?

[Lizzie Brookes]

i wonder if he will be killed off

No - Aaron said he wouldn't be.

You not waiting to see it happen now and believe what has been written?

From what I have seen so far no 18 year old has been killed off unless they commit suicide.

[Lizzie Brookes]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

I didnt look on any other thread than this one...I just think its out of order to state people who dare not to agree with your slightly tainted opinion of Steven are stupid.

But why read even that thread if you don't like Steven? By the way Tanya buried her husband alive in a coffin with the intention of killing him. Do you hate Tanya?

[Pinkbanana]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

I didnt look on any other thread than this one...I just think its out of order to state people who dare not to agree with your slightly tainted opinion of Steven are stupid.

But why read even that thread if you don't like Steven? By the way Tanya buried her husband alive in a coffin with the intention of killing him. Do you hate Tanya?

You are not reading what I have written....I read the quote about you calling people who disagree with you idiots, IN THIS THREAD, not anywhere else!!!

I don't dislike/hate Steven...but I can see many flaws in the character...unlike you.

[Perdita]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

I didnt look on any other thread than this one...I just think its out of order to state people who dare not to agree with your slightly tainted opinion of Steven are stupid.

But why read even that thread if you don't like Steven? By the way Tanya buried her husband alive in a coffin with the intention of killing him. Do you hate Tanya?

Tanya had a reason, Max cheated on her repeatedly, and the last affair was with his son's girlfriend, Steven has no reason to do anything he does because everybody treats him nicely, I think there is a difference. Not that I condone Tanya's action, mind. Can't remember anybody saying they hate Steven, some of us are just glad he is leaving but I suspect that might be more to do with the storyline (OTT to say the least - my opinion) rather than the character himself.

[Lizzie Brookes]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

I didnt look on any other thread than this one...I just think its out of order to state people who dare not to agree with your slightly tainted opinion of Steven are stupid.

But why read even that thread if you don't like Steven? By the way Tanya buried her husband alive in a coffin with the intention of killing him. Do you hate Tanya?

You are not reading what I have written....I read the quote about you calling people who disagree with you idiots, IN THIS THREAD, not anywhere else!!!

I don't dislike/hate Steven...but I can see many flaws in the character...unlike you.

I am glad you do not hate Steven and reading through this thread I see someone quoted what I said on the Appreciation Thread but where would they find that quote if they did not look on the apprecition thread? I am sorry if you found that offensive. It was just an offhand remark that didn't really mean anything.

[Lizzie Brookes]

Hi Lizzie. So is everyone who disagrees with you stupid then?

From Digital Spy:

"Hi Daniel. It's good to meet you. I'm Lizzie. I've been reading through this thread ever since it was put up and have only just recently managed to join Digital Spy. Try to ignore it if people slate Aaron/Steven - don't even bother to read the threads. I don't. Actually myself and Lennie were the only two Steven fans on the Soap, Drama and Spoilers boards and I've endured similar stupidity from people who dislike Steven."

Parkerman just copied that off the Appreciation Thread of Digital Spy. Now my question is why did Parkerman go to the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread if Parkerman does not like Steven Beale? Why copy an offhand remark which wasn't supposed to mean anything and which I did not say directly to someone who doesn't like Steven so that everyone on here can read it?

[Perdita]

i wonder if he will be killed off

No - Aaron said he wouldn't be.

You not waiting to see it happen now and believe what has been written?

From what I have seen so far no 18 year old has been killed off unless they commit suicide.

Leo, Demi Miller's boyfriend was not 18 but got killed off with a drug overdose. Jamie Mitchell was around 18 when he got killed by Martin Fowler driving a car he shouldn't have. That is just in EE, could mention more from othr soaps.

[Lizzie Brookes]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

I didnt look on any other thread than this one...I just think its out of order to state people who dare not to agree with your slightly tainted opinion of Steven are stupid.

But why read even that thread if you don't like Steven? By the way Tanya buried her husband alive in a coffin with the intention of killing him. Do you hate Tanya?

Tanya had a reason, Max cheated on her repeatedly, and the last affair was with his son's girlfriend, Steven has no reason to do anything he does because everybody treats him nicely, I think there is a difference. Not that I condone Tanya's action, mind. Can't remember anybody saying they hate Steven, some of us are just glad he is leaving but I suspect that might be more to do with the storyline (OTT to say the least - my opinion) rather than the character himself.

People treat me nicely in real life but it doesn't mean I don't have my problems. Steven probably has his problems too. As Stacey once said everyone has problems and I don't mean "problems" as in not being mentally well though in Steven's case that is true of him.

[Lizzie Brookes]

i wonder if he will be killed off

No - Aaron said he wouldn't be.

You not waiting to see it happen now and believe what has been written?

From what I have seen so far no 18 year old has been killed off unless they commit suicide.

Leo, Demi Miller's boyfriend was not 18 but got killed off with a drug overdose. Jamie Mitchell was around 18 when he got killed by Martin Fowler driving a car he shouldn't have. That is just in EE, could mention more from othr soaps.

I forgot about Jamie but Demi's boyfriend did overdose on heroin with the intention of self slaughter but since Aaron has confirmed Steven will not die I think that it is pretty likely he will not. Even then very few compared to older people who have died - Den, Pauline, Joe, Steve, Dennis etc so the likelihood is small.

[Pinkbanana]

No you are not. You are free to your view as I am to mine. It was just a casual comment - nothing more than that. Daniel said much worse - look:


You shouldn't feed Trolls. lol :D

when I said I thought what Steven was doing was wrong which I do. Actually - since you do not like Steven which I accept why did you look on his appreciation thread? :hmm:

I didnt look on any other thread than this one...I just think its out of order to state people who dare not to agree with your slightly tainted opinion of Steven are stupid.

But why read even that thread if you don't like Steven? By the way Tanya buried her husband alive in a coffin with the intention of killing him. Do you hate Tanya?

Tanya had a reason, Max cheated on her repeatedly, and the last affair was with his son's girlfriend, Steven has no reason to do anything he does because everybody treats him nicely, I think there is a difference. Not that I condone Tanya's action, mind. Can't remember anybody saying they hate Steven, some of us are just glad he is leaving but I suspect that might be more to do with the storyline (OTT to say the least - my opinion) rather than the character himself.

Well said, Perdita. :clap: I agree with everything you said.

[Perdita]

[I forgot about Jamie but Demi's boyfriend did overdose on heroin with the intention of self slaughter but since Aaron has confirmed Steven will not die I think that it is pretty likely he will not. Even then very few compared to older people who have died - Den, Pauline, Joe, Steve, Dennis etc so the likelihood is small.

I don't think any drug addict is intending to kill themselves, certainly never heard the reference self slaughter relating to any suicide, whether intended or accidental. :eek:

[DaVeyWaVey]

I am personally glad he is going. I am not keen on him as a character really... and if you ask me, trying to smother someone with a pillow is attempted murder.. it will be a good way for the character to go and I always found it unrealistic the way he came out of the clinic suddenly being presented as being in a reasonable state of mind and trying to be 'pally' with Jane after he shot her! so I'm glad his psychotic nature is resurfacing as it wouldn't have dissapeared just like that!.. makes it realistic I think..

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

[Perdita]

I am personally glad he is going. I am not keen on him as a character really... and if you ask me, trying to smother someone with a pillow is attempted murder.. it will be a good way for the character to go and I always found it unrealistic the way he came out of the clinic suddenly being presented as being in a reasonable state of mind and trying to be 'pally' with Jane after he shot her! so I'm glad his psychotic nature is resurfacing as it wouldn't have dissapeared just like that!.. makes it realistic I think..

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

:lol: The more bizarre a storyline the less likely you are going to get an explanation let alone justification. But we can live in hope, maybe we will find out what made Steven tick.

[DaVeyWaVey]

This is what annoys me about EE. They never delve into the past of their psychos. If they did it would give the characters more depth and make them more interesting, I think.. Stella... a wasted opportunity.. and now Steven too!

[Perdita]

This is what annoys me about EE. They never delve into the past of their psychos. If they did it would give the characters more depth and make them more interesting, I think.. Stella... a wasted opportunity.. and now Steven too!

Yes, I agree, they never really explained Stella's reasons for being so horrible, other than she had problems herself in her childhood (unless I missed it).

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

Might be wrong but wasnt it the fact Simon put his girlfriends before Steven?

[Perdita]

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

Might be wrong but wasnt it the fact Simon put his girlfriends before Steven?

Would that make him be horrible to his family or turn him gay?

[Xx-Vicky-xX]

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

Might be wrong but wasnt it the fact Simon put his girlfriends before Steven?

Would that make him be horrible to his family or turn him gay?

Yeah....for example an old school friend of mine used to be put fourth best to her two sisters and her brother she didnt have any attention so she would do anything to get that attention she craved so badly....Steven could be doing the same

[Lizzie Brookes]

[I forgot about Jamie but Demi's boyfriend did overdose on heroin with the intention of self slaughter but since Aaron has confirmed Steven will not die I think that it is pretty likely he will not. Even then very few compared to older people who have died - Den, Pauline, Joe, Steve, Dennis etc so the likelihood is small.

I don't think any drug addict is intending to kill themselves, certainly never heard the reference self slaughter relating to any suicide, whether intended or accidental. :eek:

I don't know I thought self slaughter and suicide are the same - maybe not. As for the Demi/Leo storyline, if I remember right, Demi took a few pills and passed out. Leo found her and took the whole lot and when she came round he said he had eaten all the pills. I thought he was commiting suicide because he thought she was dead.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I am personally glad he is going. I am not keen on him as a character really... and if you ask me, trying to smother someone with a pillow is attempted murder.. it will be a good way for the character to go and I always found it unrealistic the way he came out of the clinic suddenly being presented as being in a reasonable state of mind and trying to be 'pally' with Jane after he shot her! so I'm glad his psychotic nature is resurfacing as it wouldn't have dissapeared just like that!.. makes it realistic I think..

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

I think I read somewhere that we find out more about his past and that what happened in New Zealand is merely the tip of the iceberg.

[Perdita]

I am personally glad he is going. I am not keen on him as a character really... and if you ask me, trying to smother someone with a pillow is attempted murder.. it will be a good way for the character to go and I always found it unrealistic the way he came out of the clinic suddenly being presented as being in a reasonable state of mind and trying to be 'pally' with Jane after he shot her! so I'm glad his psychotic nature is resurfacing as it wouldn't have dissapeared just like that!.. makes it realistic I think..

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

I think I read somewhere that we find out more about his past and that what happened in New Zealand is merely the tip of the iceberg.

He will be gone in a month, so not that much time to explore his history if they want to show the life of other residents at Albert Square as well. As Sean is also quite busy right now ruining other people's lives, I fear we shall never know wtf is wrong with Steven.

[Mr Maestro]

It's odd because the headline reads 'Steven to become a murderer' does that mean he does actually kill someone, because you can only be a murderer if you kill someone surely?? Should it read 'Steven attempt's to Kill family member'

Is it me just being picky ?

[Perdita]

It's odd because the headline reads 'Steven to become a murderer' does that mean he does actually kill someone, because you can only be a murderer if you kill someone surely?? Should it read 'Steven attempt's to Kill family member'

Is it me just being picky ?

I thought I had put a question mark at the end of the sentence but obviously did not hit the key hard enough, and no, you are not picky, I have told myself off for this typo already once I noticed. :o

[miccisy]

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

Might be wrong but wasnt it the fact Simon put his girlfriends before Steven?

Would that make him be horrible to his family or turn him gay?

Sorry bu i just need to give my opinion as you state "turn him gay". I dont think people can just be turned gay it is how they are born and how they feel. Nothing to do with the way they were brought up. This might only be my opinion though. :searchme:

Somtimes people are just mentally ill. There is no reason behind it. No explanation. Their just ill thats that.

I think he has been ill all the way through. He was let out of hospital too early (mental health professionals can get diagnosises wrong all the time and let people out when they shouldnt) tried to kill himself, acts wierdly and is hiding is sister away from their dad. Not to mention trying to kill his nan.

He came into the soap mentally and is leaving the same. I think the script writers have done a good job with his character.

[Mr Maestro]

What made Steven turn this way though? Has it been mentioned? I have only been watching on and off...I think we need proper justification from the EE writers over why he has turned out this way..

Might be wrong but wasnt it the fact Simon put his girlfriends before Steven?

Would that make him be horrible to his family or turn him gay?

Sorry bu i just need to give my opinion as you state "turn him gay". I dont think people can just be turned gay it is how they are born and how they feel. Nothing to do with the way they were brought up. This might only be my opinion though. :searchme:

Somtimes people are just mentally ill. There is no reason behind it. No explanation. Their just ill thats that.

I think he has been ill all the way through. He was let out of hospital too early (mental health professionals can get diagnosises wrong all the time and let people out when they shouldnt) tried to kill himself, acts wierdly and is hiding is sister away from their dad. Not to mention trying to kill his nan.

He came into the soap mentally and is leaving the same. I think the script writers have done a good job with his character.


I do believe that Stephen is not Gay however I believe he is opening his mind to this option due to his Mental Illness.

Stephen appears to need to control people and hence that is why he is controlling several different people even Christian to point because he receiving attention from Christian.

People do turn gay for different reasons and those who do turn gay from Straight usually in my experience are quite straight but just feel they are missing out on something or just want to try it for a while.

[walsh2509]

I thought I'd read something just a one liner , something about the real reason lucy ran away, someone was doing something to her and it had being going on for a while. I thought may be she was being abused, if so could it be Steven.

[Timalay]

OMG he is two faced. Weird though he has a hard time keeping his face straight during the Beale diner with Stacey. But he kept Lucy secret all this time without as much as a clue. This is a bit far fetched.

How is he two faced?

for the reason above.. it think.. but he has some neck.. he told Jane that Ian hit Lucy and that is why she ran off.. Ian is out of his mind with worry and this crazy guy not only knows where she is but is helping her. He is not only deceiving his family but carrying on like nothing is happening.. and then he tries to kill his Gran cause he want his dad to himself.. the same dad he imprisoned and blamed for his mum's death.. the same Dad who did nothing but love him and still wasn't good enough for Steven.. he went to see his "real dad" and just cause it didn't work out.. he wants Ian back.. The guy is a whole lot of crazy

Sorry I misunderstood that, I thought you ment the Actor.