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Abigail
27-04-2008, 17:49
An A-level in Harry Potter: Experts fear ‘dumbing down’ as book becomes set text

Harry Potter has taken his place alongside such greats of English literature as Shakespeare's Hamlet and Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre and is required reading for A-level English students.

J.K. Rowling's boy-wizard has been added to the syllabus in a move that has prompted fresh claims of "dumbing down" in education standards.

Harry Potter And The Philosopher's Stone is being offered as a 'set text' by the Assessment and Qualifications Alliance (AQA), the UK's largest exam board, which is responsible for nearly half of the country's exams.

But horrified education experts fear Harry will rob the A-level of credibility.

Professor Alan Smithers, a special adviser to the House of Commons Education and Skills Committee, said:

"The point of English literature is to provide works that have stood the test of time and that allow people to understand their place in the world as others have understood it.

"I don't think Harry Potter is appropriate as a set text; I don't see how it fits in with that. It may be an enjoyable read but I don't think we are just trying to keep people occupied."

Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education, added: "This is all done in the name of relevance and popular culture, but it is not why children go to school.

"They should be encouraged to read and understand the great works of English literature. Harry Potter may be what children want to read, but that doesn't mean it should be part of an A-level."

Pupils taking the English language and literature A-level next year will study Rowling's first Potter volume – the 12th best-selling book of all time and the basis for a Hollywood film – along with one other book for the module Themes in Language and Literature.

They will have to write a 1,200 to 1,500-word piece of coursework comparing the "approaches" of J.K. Rowling and the other writer.

Examiners will mark students on how they relate story lines and the activities of Harry Potter and his friends to the context of the times.

And students will have to show an understanding of J.K. Rowling's use of language, described recently as gibberish by a High Court judge. They will also have to write their own 500 to 800-word story inspired by the book.

The AQA claims it will develop "reading and writing skills through the in-depth study of writers' crafting". It adds that students will have to "describe and discuss features of genre, language and style".

In the wake of persistently higher grades and the decision by Oxford and Cambridge universities to set their own entrance exams, experts have already called for the A-level to be replaced by the International Baccalaureate.

The Government watchdog, the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority, has pledged to boost A-levels with a major overhaul for the next academic year.

But fears that the curriculum is being dumbed down have been bolstered by plans announced earlier this month for 'flexible' GCSEs which will allow students who fail sections to retake them.

Critics said it would give them a false sense of their abilities and make the exams "almost impossible to fail".

Last night the AQA said: "Harry Potter is a genuine example of literature of our time and therefore entirely deserves its place in this unit. We believe that it will prove a popular and engaging inclusion."




Why are people calling it an "A level in Harry Potter?" The book is just a set text, along with other texts and poems. Shakespeare is a set text at GCSE, shall we start calling it a GCSE in Shakespeare?

Abbie
27-04-2008, 18:00
I think its great, I mean there are lots of important themes and the writing is great, and plus where they have to write their own piece is great as you can use lots of greta langauge and techiniques for a story like this

StarsOfCCTV
27-04-2008, 22:12
I think it is a dumbing down of the system. Writing an essay on Harry Potter is hardly going to stretch someones mind.

Abbie
27-04-2008, 22:48
But there are so many things to explore and we always wrote about older texts, in some time in the future this will be an older text

StarsOfCCTV
27-04-2008, 22:59
I agree Harry Potters a great book but just for reading for fun, I don't think it's suitable as a set text. Shakespeare writes about things like..love, hate, war, peace etc while Harry Potter..is just about a group of kids waving magic wands about :lol: You can read into Shakespeare and find meanings in it I just don't think you could do that with Harry Potter :p

Abigail
27-04-2008, 23:02
Isn't Harry Potter also about love, war, friendship, honesty and peace? If you look past the wands you can see the deeper meanings behind the words.

Perdita
28-04-2008, 13:50
Totally agree with Abigail, HP teaches about friendship, love, standing up for what is right, loyalty, and yes, also the negative side such as hate, fighting and death. All in superb writing, I could not put any of the books (I have got them all) down and used every spare moment to read, cry and laugh. This text is probably a lot easier to understand for a lot of people than Shakespeare.

Luna
28-04-2008, 16:05
love, hate, war, peace etc while Harry Potter..is just about a group of kids waving magic wands about :lol:


Love - Ron & Hermione Harry & Ginny Mrs Wealsey's love for harry harrys love for his parents and god parent

Hate - Malfoy, voldemort

War - The whole series is about a war going on between the world and voldemort

Peace - The last chapter of the series

I dont mean to sound cheeky but is really rubs me up the werong way when people dont read the books and slag them off. Maybe you should give them a try.....you might be suprised and learn its not just about a group of kids waving magic wands about.

Back on topic - i love this idea. It gets kids and adults reading who normally wouldnt. I personally couldnt think of anything worse than sitting reading shakespear (and yes i have read them before) and writting about it for exams

Hollie-x
28-04-2008, 16:06
I hope it doesn't. I hate the Harry Potter stuff. I mean I know that's just my opinion but I'd much rather do a piece on Shakespeare (as boring as it may be)

Layne
28-04-2008, 16:17
I knew it would happen!! Shame it isn't for our year :rolleyes:
I think that as alot of indepth reading is needed for A Level english, i think it will possibly spoil the book, for me it would anyway, i can't read my drama plays and english set texts in the same way once i've ripped them apart (figuratively not actually!)
But they aren't just studying this, they will have to compare this with another book, and the 'approachs' well to me it doesn't sound easy...
To be quite honest i wish people would stop saying that A levels are being 'dumbed down' and are 'easy' i'm telling you they are not!

StarsOfCCTV
28-04-2008, 17:41
I dont mean to sound cheeky but is really rubs me up the werong way when people dont read the books and slag them off. Maybe you should give them a try.....you might be suprised and learn its not just about a group of kids waving magic wands about.

I have read all the books :p Still remained unconvinced on this one but I'm not doing english a level so I'm alright :p

Abigail
28-04-2008, 18:46
To be quite honest i wish people would stop saying that A levels are being 'dumbed down' and are 'easy' i'm telling you they are not!

I challenge any one of these people who always say that A levels are being dumbed down to take one. I bet they don't come out with an A without a lot of hard work and revision.

Have these people ever thought that children are getting more intelligent or that teaching standards have improved? Of course not, it must be the exam boards setting easy questions :rolleyes:

Rant over.


I remember at GCSE we spent half our time trying to figure out what the hell Shakespeare was saying in between all those metaphors and old language and we were top set. I hated it. I'd much rather read something more modern that I can understand clearly and write about rather than having a stab in the dark about Shakespeare.

Abbie
28-04-2008, 21:48
I agree Harry Potters a great book but just for reading for fun, I don't think it's suitable as a set text. Shakespeare writes about things like..love, hate, war, peace etc while Harry Potter..is just about a group of kids waving magic wands about :lol: You can read into Shakespeare and find meanings in it I just don't think you could do that with Harry Potter :p

Okay I know what you mean, BUT there are several themes plus it goes the same with any book that we study in eng lit apart from the older classics, but there are loads of books, more modern ones that people study and at a first read you think its more just more leisure when really you can study them

Kim
01-09-2008, 21:04
Frankenstein isn't that old a book and no one's slagging that off as being a set text. There's not really a great deal of older language and it's much easier to understand at first read than Shakespeare. I think it has been a good move in line with what is being expected of candidates; my prospectus says that one of our pieces of coursework will be a creative response to a prose text. I don't really think that would be possible with something as old as Shakespeare's work.

DaVeyWaVey
01-09-2008, 21:16
I think it's a great idea they've made this a set text. However, I am not too keen on the books myself (I did read the first book and I didn't like it simply because it's not the type of story I like reading..) ..but I can see how it would be a good as an A Level text as it's really well written. Maybe I would appreciate the books a lot more if I had the opportunity to study it at A Level and delve into its deeper meanings, instead of reading it simply as a story in my free time, which I did so in the past.

Personally, I prefer a bit of Shakespeare myself, but then I have studied it a lot and analysing the text makes me appreciate a play/book a whole lot more and since studying Shakespeare's texts, I can't help but read them again.