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did you smoke during pregnancy?
i havent with any of mine and wouldnt,its bad enough that you yourself do it let alone inflicting it on a unborn child.
i do smoke, but as soon as i found out i was expecting i gave up straight away!!
I feel bad now.. I tried to give up but I was crying and shouting all the time that my partner told me to go back on them.. I was on 25 a day but now I am only on 5 ish
i just think you have got to think what you are doing to that baby then that will/should give you enough will power to stop!
i just think you have got to think what you are doing to that baby then that will/should give you enough will power to stop!
That is easier said then done.. if you have never smoked then you dont' understand the feelings you have when you quit without help (you can't use any products when pregnant) add that to the hormone rages in pregnancy and it is very stressful on both you and baby.
It was shown that a woman who is a heavy smoker, her baby is already addicted to nicotine before she finds out she is pregnant and to withdrawn straight away can have a big affect on the feotus.. I am not proud that I smoke during my pregnancy and I do realise what I am doing but I have been told by doctor that as long as I cut down then it is better than smoking as I use to...
Siobhan.
It is easy only if you want to give up!
I am officialy a non smoker now having given up for just over a year now.
Ask an ex smoker how you smell Siobhan.
Thats reason in itself.
When i am near people who smoke it makes me feel sick the smell, it is absolutely vile, but until you stop you will never know.
Excuses like " i need a fag cos i am stressed".....etc etc just don't cut it.
I have been out of work for a long time due to a slipped disc and times have been very hard, yet never have i been tempted to go back on the weed.
Have a sit down Siobhan, on your own, and ask yourself, what benefits you get from smoking. There are none!
And as for your doctor to say its ok if your just having a few, blimey!
I would change doctor's if i were you.
I spoke to a special smoking advisory nurse about smoking, and she said that smoking a few is as bad, if not worse than smoking normally.
Because your limiting yourself, you take more in when you smoke the few you have.
Its true too.
But its your life, nobody can make you give up, you must want to.
I am happy in the knowledge i will (fingers crossed) live longer and i feel healthier for it now, and get to watch my family grow up!
i was amoker but as soon as i found out i was pregnant i stopped !! it was easy! and i have never and will neversmoke again
Behemoth
17-05-2005, 23:22
If you want to smoke at any time during your life then that is your decision and that is fair enough but when you are pregnant you have a responsibility to take care of the little baby growing inside you for the whole nine months that you carry them. Smoking 25 cigarettes a day during pregnany, in my opinion, borders on child abuse.
black-panther
17-05-2005, 23:51
did you smoke during pregnancy?
i havent with any of mine and wouldnt,its bad enough that you yourself do it let alone inflicting it on a unborn child. i smoked through both of mine and my children are very healthy indeed and it has not slowed them down there very brainy girls no ahsma at all i was always told that my girls would get sick through me smokeing from my brother but he has never smoked hes never let his daughter in contact with smokers and now she has bad ahsma it just proves you can get sick even if your not smokeing but i do now my girls are not sick through it there favorite thing is blowing up balloons so i now theres nothing wrong with there lungs but i dont think smokeing messes them up at all you can get ill through anything my auntie had 9 cancers in her and she never smoked in her life the way i see it dont always believe what you hear and if it is that bad why hasnt smokeing been banned if its life and death and killing ppl why they still selling it hmmmm
Behemoth
17-05-2005, 23:56
There is a proven link between smoking and ill children. The fact that a link exists should be enough to stop you smoking, you can't gamble on the fact that they 'might be ok'.
they havent banned it because its a great money maker for the goverment,bottom line is its too big for them to ban it,they makes loads of money off it.like petrol,they wont stop flogging that as it makes loads of money.none of them care about the quality of life just the quality of whats in there pockets. it honestly cant help to smoke during pregnancy,it looks discusting too in my opinion,you are just lucky your children are healthy.
black-panther
18-05-2005, 00:15
If you want to smoke at any time during your life then that is your decision and that is fair enough but when you are pregnant you have a responsibility to take care of the little baby growing inside you for the whole nine months that you carry them. Smoking 25 cigarettes a day during pregnany, in my opinion, borders on child abuse. i totally disagree with you there when i was carrying one of mine i had deppresion i was advised to smoke through it by a midwife and also at the hostpital has for child abuse i think you way out of line my kids are my pride of joy but i dont think you ever suffered from deppreshion so i guess you wil never now its a hard thing to have so you could say that the doctors do child abuse aswell wot with the pethidine and gas they put in you its still more less a drug and i hope you will get grief through what you put has what you said was very wrong and no smoker deserves that you just remember theres a history behind every smoker and if we choose to smoke while in pregnancy then we shall its not child abuse and your not god :(((
Behemoth
18-05-2005, 00:24
Any gas or medicine that Doctors administer are done with the patient's consent so how is that abuse? Smoking during pregnancy is done in full knowledge that there is a very real risk to your baby which you are supposed to be doing your best to look after.
.......and I realise that I am not God
i totally disagree with you there when i was carrying one of mine i had deppresion i was advised to smoke through it by a midwife and also at the hostpital has for child abuse i think you way out of line my kids are my pride of joy but i dont think you ever suffered from deppreshion so i guess you wil never now its a hard thing to have so you could say that the doctors do child abuse aswell wot with the pethidine and gas they put in you its still more less a drug and i hope you will get grief through what you put has what you said was very wrong and no smoker deserves that you just remember theres a history behind every smoker and if we choose to smoke while in pregnancy then we shall its not child abuse and your not god :(((
your midwife must be off her trolley.no midwife would advise it.i have had depression,and i still managed to have my wits about me and always put my unborn child first,by not going near smoker if i could avoid it i would.i cant really understand the rest of your post to comment on it.
black-panther
18-05-2005, 00:41
Any gas or medicine that Doctors administer are done with the patient's consent so how is that abuse? Smoking during pregnancy is done in full knowledge that there is a very real risk to your baby which you are supposed to be doing your best to look after.
.......and I realise that I am not God yes and im doing that quite fine like if you read my notes my children are very healthy has for doctors with patients consent or not its still a drug going in to your child if it was that thing you could call child abuse well dont you think doctors would ban all drugs going in to babys they say yes its to make them well but its still a drug just like fags so next time i would prefer you keep your child abuse opinions to your self and if any viewers out there want to now why im mad then its couse ppl today have no respect in what they put !!!!!!!
black-panther
18-05-2005, 00:43
your midwife must be off her trolley.no midwife would advise it.i have had depression,and i still managed to have my wits about me and always put my unborn child first,by not going near smoker if i could avoid it i would.i cant really understand the rest of your post to comment on it. well were are you from first has midwifes do things different in all over
Behemoth
18-05-2005, 00:44
Doctors give drugs to help your child! How can you possibly call that child abuse! Just because they are both called drugs does not mean that they are all damaging. Tobacco = Bad for baby
Doctor's Drugs = Good for baby, ok?
yes but smoking has been proven to cause cancer,cigarettes are obviously a worse drug then other medicines etc that you are calling drugs.im pleased your children are healthy,no one was calling you a bad mother or anything,its just a discussion on smoking. :)
JustJodi
18-05-2005, 00:48
I can not believe that any GOOD midwive would say that SMOKING is ok ..In Holland they tell women to cut out the smoking during pregancy, or the baby will be born with a "tobacco heart" :sick: I stopped smoking the moment I found out I was pregnant with my son, and his daddy quit and his grandpa quit.. so we were all SMOKE FREE,, Black Panther I do not know where u are located in UK,, but no self respecting well trained and certified midwife in UK would tell a woman that it is OKIE DOKIE TO SMOKE WHILE carrying a child,, sorry that woman should be strung up and shot at dawn !!!! :angry:
well were are you from first has midwifes do things different in all over
england,where midwives are mostly sensible and def do not advise smoking.
black-panther
18-05-2005, 01:00
I can not believe that any GOOD midwive would say that SMOKING is ok ..In Holland they tell women to cut out the smoking during pregancy, or the baby will be born with a "tobacco heart" :sick: I stopped smoking the moment I found out I was pregnant with my son, and his daddy quit and his grandpa quit.. so we were all SMOKE FREE,, Black Panther I do not know where u are located in UK,, but no self respecting well trained and certified midwife in UK would tell a woman that it is OKIE DOKIE TO SMOKE WHILE carrying a child,, sorry that woman should be strung up and shot at dawn !!!! :angry: in uk we are told if we smoke to just cut down but just because i smoked dosent mean i didnt care about my child i thought about my child while i was smokeing but if you have a ill health and smokeing calms you down then thats the way it must be it dosent mean i dont care about my child my children are healthy and thats all i care about ppl can say wot they want but when that word child abuse comes out then that takes the biscuit and as for doctors like i told the other person they do different it all deppends on were you are some countrys are very strict
black-panther
18-05-2005, 01:04
england,where midwives are mostly sensible and def do not advise smoking. like i said you can get different advice from all sorts of doctors so what are you saying that when a doctor tells you something that the whole country says the same no no thats why they change doctors all the time couse of different oppinons
Behemoth
18-05-2005, 01:07
Smoking affects a baby the same no matter what country you are in so that shouldn't make any difference. If you get cravings then you should be trying everything you can to prevent them; nicotine patches and even hypnotherapy but you should never ever risk the health of your unborn child.
Um, babies born to herion addicts are normally put on methodone (sp?) as they are already addicted. Smoking/alcohol/drug abuse as well as plain unhealthy diet can harm a baby. Why risk it?
JustJodi
18-05-2005, 01:16
How can you justify that smoking calms you when you have bad health,, honestly,, that is the worst excuse to smoke !!!!!!!!!!! You said YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR CHILD WHILE YOU WERE SMOKING,, do you realize how many major organs you are destroying, and your unborn childs ??? No I am sorry in my opinion SMOKING IS NOT JUSTIFIED !!!!!!!! Unless you are talking about WACKY Weed that is legally prescribed to control depression or mental illness or terminal illness such as AIDS or cancer,,
in uk we are told if we smoke to just cut down but just because i smoked dosent mean i didnt care about my child i thought about my child while i was smokeing but if you have a ill health and smokeing calms you down then thats the way it must be it dosent mean i dont care about my child my children are healthy and thats all i care about ppl can say wot they want but when that word child abuse comes out then that takes the biscuit and as for doctors like i told the other person they do different it all deppends on were you are some countrys are very strict
Behemoth
18-05-2005, 09:06
How can you justify that smoking calms you when you have bad health,, honestly,, that is the worst excuse to smoke !!!!!!!!!!! You said YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR CHILD WHILE YOU WERE SMOKING,, do you realize how many major organs you are destroying, and your unborn childs ??? No I am sorry in my opinion SMOKING IS NOT JUSTIFIED !!!!!!!! Unless you are talking about WACKY Weed that is legally prescribed to control depression or mental illness or terminal illness such as AIDS or cancer,,
Cannabis is an illegal drug in the UK, even for medicinal purposes.
JustJodi
18-05-2005, 09:10
Cannabis is an illegal drug in the UK, even for medicinal purposes.
At least it is ILLEGAL... In the states they only give it to "certain" people and believe me from what my daughter in law tells me ( she is a registered nurse) the prescriptions are veryyyyyyyyy rare.. I can't see how cannabis would sooth any one or let alone calm them,, well spotted Osris :-)
Doctors give drugs to help your child! How can you possibly call that child abuse! Just because they are both called drugs does not mean that they are all damaging. Tobacco = Bad for baby
Doctor's Drugs = Good for baby, ok?
Doctor's Drugs not always ok.. During my labour I was give a drug to speed it up, everytime it was administered, my baby lost her heartbeat.. they tried 3 times and 3 times they had to revive her heart, while she was still inside me.. that is scary
I understand the affect smoking has on an unborn child.. I don't smoke 25 a day, that was at the start before I knew I was pregnant.. I have cut down but I haven't quit.. I have tried to quit in the past and I am aware of how smelly it is.... Because I still smoke, i dont' call it Child abuse. I don't have any excuse for smoking, i am not stressed, i am an addict plain and simple...
As for midwife/doctors advising about smoking, my friend was told yesterday that if she can't quit then to cut down at her checkup....
Smoking, and I know it is bad, is the only thing I do during pregancy, I don't drink, I don't use any sort of pain killer, flu remedies etc... I suffer badly from hayfever and I will just put up with it...
Behemoth
18-05-2005, 09:36
Doctors would never give a harmful drug that was not going to do any help. Smoking helps nobody and harms fetus's.
Doctors would never give a harmful drug that was not going to do any help. Smoking helps nobody and harms fetus's.
maybe not but again would you take the risk.. It probably works well on lots of people but there is still the few who have complication.. same way, women who smoke during pregnancy can have very healthy kids (I know a lot) and other have sick children all the time.
Again the MMR, suppose to helpful to your child but there is risk of autism.. yet millions of parents will take the risk
I am not approving of smoking, as I said I know the risks... But for people you don't smoke, it is hard for them to understand the addiction that goes with it and how bad you feel if you withdraw.
JustJodi
"I can't see how cannabis would sooth any one or let alone calm them"
If thats the case then you have obviously never smoked it. I tried it when i was younger & it is extremely calming.
If you haven't tried it how on earth can you comment on it????
Osiris
Doctors would never give a harmful drug that was not going to do any help. Smoking helps nobody.
My mother suffers from MS and is in a home, when she stopped smoking she went from a size 12 to a size 22 with in months. Our family doctor advised my father to start my mum smoking again to control her weight gain.
So in relation to your comment, a doctor would administer a halmful drug if they thought there was a positive result to be gained from it!
Pregnant women who smoke risk the health and lives of their unborn babies. Smoking during pregnancy is linked with a greater chance of miscarriage, stillbirth, infant death, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Up to 10% of infant deaths would be prevented if pregnant women did not smoke.
When a pregnant woman smokes, she's smoking for two. The nicotine, carbon monoxide, and other harmful chemicals enter her bloodstream, pass directly into the baby's body, and prevent the baby from getting essential nutrients and oxygen for growth.
Sorry, but after reading that, i couldn't pick up a ciggy again if i was pregnant!
i smoke now and did before my pregnancy. When i found out i was pregnant i couldn't stomach cigarettes at all so i gave up. But after i had Satan i went straight back on them :/ I don't smoke in the house though, only on the balcony
i smoke now and did before my pregnancy. When i found out i was pregnant i couldn't stomach cigarettes at all so i gave up. But after i had Satan i went straight back on them :/ I don't smoke in the house though, only on the balcony
I never smoke in my house... My daughter was 2 and half before she knew I smoked...
i smoke now and did before my pregnancy. When i found out i was pregnant i couldn't stomach cigarettes at all so i gave up. But after i had Satan i went straight back on them :/ I don't smoke in the house though, only on the balcony
SATAN????
SATAN????
I assume that it is a loving nickname for your child Rain? :rotfl:
Umm...well...umm...of course????? :D :D
Good cause I thought I was the only one who gave birth to the span of the devil :rotfl:
lol no no i have 2 mini devils right here!
He was 18 months old...he turned on the oven rings...i had an old fashined chip pan on top of the stove...it set fire to the house and burned it to the ground...he's been Satan ever since. He's 11 now and he's a sponsered skateboarder. His "street" name is Satan too. I've gotten used to people calling up and asking for him by that name. Apparently it's "cooler" than Christov
That's 11 year old boys for you.. I can't believe he burnt your house down.. remind me never to have an old fashion chip pan in the house
k reminder for siobhan...never put babies and old fashioned chip pans within a 5 mile radius. I got a master fry after that. It was a case of what i could afford at the time....strange country, strange devices. Didn't have a clue about electrical things that cooked fish fingers and chips in one go
So in relation to your comment, a doctor would administer a halmful drug if they thought there was a positive result to be gained from it!
would they?? surely the doctors would suggest a diet or some sort of pills to help with weight loss. not smoking which kills!! surely that is the same as being big. that can kill too? im very overweight and i used to smoke i hope my doctor dosent tell me to start again!
Behemoth
18-05-2005, 15:25
So in relation to your comment, a doctor would administer a halmful drug if they thought there was a positive result to be gained from it!
Erm......that is what I said. 'Doctors would never give a harmful drug that was not going to do any help.' Obviously smoking did help your mum because it controlled her weight gain.
Erm......that is what I said. 'Doctors would never give a harmful drug that was not going to do any help.' Obviously smoking did help your mum because it controlled her weight gain.
yes sherbs if you read osiris' post carefully he does in fact say that doctors would never give a harmful drug that wouldnt help.
JustJodi
18-05-2005, 15:38
"like in the DEVIL made me do it ..Satan???" :wall:
SATAN???? :wall:
"like in the DEVIL made me do it ..Satan???" :wall: :wall:
huh?????:confused:
JustJodi
18-05-2005, 15:46
huh?????:confused:
SATAN- is another name for the DEVIL, :-) sorry if i got ya confused Debs
no you didnt get me confused just jodi!! i know what SATAN means!!
I am well aware of what she said chance.
She said Smoking Helps Nobody!
When infact it did.
Thats what i was pointing out!
Behemoth
18-05-2005, 18:31
I am well aware of what she said chance.
She said Smoking Helps Nobody!
When infact it did.
Thats what i was pointing out! I'm not a she!!!!!! I'm MALE :angry:
a male pregnant smoker...WOW!!! :D
he didnt claim to be pregnant did he? he was just saying his opinion like the rest of us and saying that he dislikes smoking etc and he doesnt see it as a help to anyone.
i was trying to make light of it :/
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