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For anyone who's reading the book or has finished it to comment.
Please do not discuss the book anywhere else on the forum and let others read it at their own pace - DO NOT SPOIL IT FOR OTHERS
Chloe O'brien
20-07-2007, 22:08
Can I just add a point that if members do have a spoiler then hide it as some people may not read the book as fast as others. Not every wants to know who the main characters that die before they have read it so please be kind.
Can I just add a point that if members do have a spoiler then hide it as some people may not read the book as fast as others. Not every wants to know who the main characters that die before they have read it so please be kind.
Doesn't that defeat the object of this thread though?? :searchme:
Can I just add a point that if members do have a spoiler then hide it as some people may not read the book as fast as others. Not every wants to know who the main characters that die before they have read it so please be kind.
Doesn't that defeat the object of this thread though?? :searchme:
yeah was just posting that - if you havent read it or you dont want to know who's died before you finish the book do not read this thread. It only for people who have either finished it or dont care if its spoiled. I for one will not be accessing this thread until its finished.
The point of this thread is so people who dont want to be spoiled can still come on line without the fear of the book being spoiled
Chloe O'brien
20-07-2007, 22:25
Okay I'm being selfish I'm not buying the book until Monday and curiosity will get the better of me and I want to know who dies to see if my theory is right. :rotfl:
Okay I'm being selfish I'm not buying the book until Monday and curiosity will get the better of me and I want to know who dies to see if my theory is right. :rotfl:
lol you can still use the other thread to talk about the book without be spoiled - and go on resist the temptation dont ruin ten years of waiting....
Jessie Wallace
20-07-2007, 22:32
I'm going to have to come and read on here, as i won't be buying the book til it's out in paperback which is another year away. So have to wait either til then or until someone finnishes tere's and lends it to me :crying:
Chloe O'brien
20-07-2007, 22:33
Well see I'm years behind everyone else. Marley has only really been into Harry Potter this year so she working her way through the books she is at book 3. I'm going to buy the book for her but it will take her months to read it I'm going to have to read it first myself.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
20-07-2007, 22:35
I haven't got the book and I haven't read the 6th one so I will be making a start on that next week and then buy the final one. I will defo. be checking this thread for updates still!
I'm going to have to come and read on here, as i won't be buying the book til it's out in paperback which is another year away. So have to wait either til then or until someone finnishes tere's and lends it to me :crying:
Just go to Asda. They're selling it for £5, cheaper than it will be in paperback.
Jessie Wallace
20-07-2007, 22:42
No i can't i've gotta all the other's in papaerback to want the set to look the same, Plus i don't actaully mind how much it cost's, i'd pay the full price if the money goes to the genius that is JK Rowling. Anyway i'm going to shut it now, as we going way off topic!
I think Kath does have a point though - what happens if we have read to a certain point in the book and want to discuss it without finding out what happens further on in the book?
Chloe O'brien
21-07-2007, 00:12
Shockarrooney I've just ran down to Asda grabbed a copy and went to read the last 4 pages and you'll never guess what JK Rowlings has wrote in big bold capital letters HA HA Suckers you will :rotfl: never know what happened to Harry Potter.
CrazyLea
21-07-2007, 00:15
Really lmao?
Or is that a joke :o
Kath's been on the shoutbox - there's no way she could have got to the front of the queue in this time, got the book home and read part of it in that time - they'll be loads queueing for it - I bet some have been there since 12am yesterday.
Chloe O'brien
21-07-2007, 00:25
Kath's been on the shoutbox - there's no way she could have got to the front of the queue in this time, got the book home and read part of it in that time - they'll be loads queueing for it - I bet some have been there sinced 12am yesterday.
How do you know I may have a job at the checkouts and secretly hide my laptop under the till and have staff privlages to buy the book and is now on a break reading it. OMG Really Major Spoiler I can't tell you but it involves a huge hollywood star and a helicopter.
i know i said i wasnt going to come into this thread until id finished the book im not reading anyone else posts but omg!!!!
Im on chapter six already and i cant believe so much has happened so quickly
Hegwig and Mad eye are both dead, george has lost an ear and lupin and tonks are married!!!
And what about Stan how can he be a death eater!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Need to read more think i'm gonna be pulling an all nighter lol
Jessie Wallace
21-07-2007, 02:17
Seriously, all that in 6 chapters wow, keep going, i need to know more, now also if you could finnish the book by 7.20 in the morning and let me know what happens before i go to work that would be fab :D
Jessie Wallace
21-07-2007, 07:17
Here's the live reading from JK Rowling this morning
http://dl.groovygecko.net/anon.groovy/clients/bloomsbury/bl01.html
The final book begins with Voldemort and his Death Eaters at the home of Lucius Malfoy. They are beginning to plan out how to kill Harry Potter before he can be hidden again. After borrowing Lucius's wand, Voldemort kills his captive, Professor Charity Burbage, teacher of Muggle Studies at Hogwarts, for teaching the subject and suggesting that the end of pureblooded wizards was a good thing.
Harry, meanwhile, is getting ready for his trip and reading an obituary of Albus Dumbledore; it is revealed that Dumbledore’s father, Percival, supposedly hated non-wizards and had killed several Muggles, and had died in Azkaban for his crimes. Harry regrets not having asked Dumbledore more about his past, but this is soon forgotten as he is leaving his home that night. He convinces his aunt Petunia, uncle Vernon, and cousin Dudley that they need to leave as well to avoid being captured by the Death Eaters, and eventually they leave escorted by a pair of wizards, though not before Dudley admits that he cares about Harry.
Soon thereafter the Order of the Phoenix arrive with a plan to sneak Harry away from his house without Voldemort capturing him. Ron Weasley, Hermione Granger, the Weasley twins, Fleur Delacour, and Mundungus Fletcher take a polyjuice potion to make themselves look like Harry, and each departs with a different member of the Order of the Phoenix. Harry departs with Hagrid and, after being chased by Death Eaters and Voldemort, narrowly escapes to the Burrow. There, the casualties are counted: Hedwig, Harry’s owl, was struck by a killing curse; George Weasley lost an ear; Mad-Eye Moody was killed by Voldemort himself. Harry later has a vision regarding his escape; his wand had reacted with Voldemort’s borrowed wand, destroying it, and he has a vision of Voldemort questioning Ollivander, the wand maker, about why it happened.
A few days later, the Minister of Magic arrives at the Weasley residence to give Harry, Ron, and Hermione what Dumbledore had willed to them: to Ron, a Deluminator (known as a "put-outer" in previous books), with the power to douse all the lights in a room; to Hermione, a book of children’s stories; and to Harry, Godric Gryffindor’s sword and the first snitch Harry had ever caught. The sword, however, was withheld because, the minister claimed, it was not Dumbledore's to give. The three try to discover the purpose of the objects being given to them, but are unable to figure it out before the wedding between Fleur Delacour and Bill Weasley the next day.
Harry disguises himself for the wedding, but during the wedding they all receive a message; Voldemort has taken over the Ministry of Magic. Harry, Ron, and Hermione all flee the wedding, first fleeing to a Muggle café. Though they think themselves safe for the moment, two Death Eaters find them almost immediately and attack them. Harry, Ron, and Hermione manage to defeat the Death Eaters, but thinking themselves in danger in public, flee to 12 Grimmauld Place, Sirius Black’s home, where they hide themselves. The group realizes that Regulus Arcturus Black was the R.A.B. from the amulet Harry found with Dumbledore, and begin searching the house for the Horcrux. Kreacher, after a bit of persuasion, tells the trio that he had helped Regulus in assisting Voldemort to place the locket horcrux in the cave. After Regulus became disenchanted, however, he ordered him to return to the cave such that he could substitute a fake locket for the real one, however, he is killed in the process. Eventually they realize that Mundungus Fletcher stole the amulet and send Kreacher to find Fletcher and bring back the amulet. Kreacher finds Fletcher, but he has already given the amulet away to Dolores Umbridge.
After a month of spying on the Ministry of Magic, the trio try to infiltrate it in order to retrieve the Horcrux from Dolores Umbridge. They ambush three wizards and use polyjuice potion to impersonate them. They discover the Ministry of Magic has changed considerably; Muggle-born wizards and witches are being rounded up openly and the Ministry itself is demonstrating its superiority over the muggle-borns. The three discover Mad-Eye Moody’s eye has been taken by Umbridge, so they take it; they then knock out Umbridge and take the horcrux from her, freeing a number of muggle-born wizards and witches in the process and encouraging them to flee the country. However, in the process their hiding place is discovered and they are forced to flee to the countryside, moving from place to place, never staying anywhere too long.
After several months of moving around they overhear a conversation wherein it is revealed that Godric Griffindor’s sword is actually a fake, and someone did something with the real sword. Harry hears this and is heartened, and after questioning the portrait of Phineas Black, he discovers that the sword had last been used by Dumbledore to destroy another Horcrux, the Gaunt’s ring. However, Ron feels this is just another thing for them to do and, having been injured in their escape from the Ministry of Magic, he gets in an argument with Harry and leaves, leaving Harry and Hermione together. The two are greatly saddened, but eventually realize they have to go to Godric's Hollow on the off-chance Dumbledore left the sword there for them.
Arriving in Godric's Hollow, the two first visit the memorial to Harry’s family, then the graveyard, where both Harry and Dumbledore’s families are buried. After laying a wreath on Harry’s parents’ grave, they encounter the old woman Bathilda Bagshot, an old family friend of Dumbledore’s who authored The History of Magic. Thinking she may have been entrusted with the sword, they follow her to her house, where they find a picture of the dark wizard Grindelwald, Bagshot’s relative and once, long ago, Dumbledore’s childhood friend. However, it is actually a trap; “Bagshot” is actually Nagini, Voldemort’s snake familiar, and Harry and Hermione only narrowly escape from Voldemort, accidentally destroying Harry’s wand in the process.
On the run for a few more days, eventually a doe patronus appears on the edge of their camp and leads Harry to Godric Griffindor’s sword, hidden in a frozen forest pool. Harry strips down and dives down after the sword but the locket Horcrux responds poorly and tries to strangle Harry. Ron returns and saves Harry from drowning, pulling the sword out of the pool in the process. The two then destroy the Horcrux with the sword and return to camp. Hermione is less than pleased with Ron and his return, but had discovered their next step: to speak to Xenophilius Lovegood and ask him about Grindelwald's mark, a symbol which has shown up time and again during their journey.
At Lovegood’s home, Harry, Ron, and Hermione are told an old wizard story about three brothers who bested death, and each had received a magical item for it – an unbeatable wand (called the Elder Wand), a stone which could bring back the dead (the Resurrection Stone), and an Invisibility Cloak that never failed with age. Harry believes that his own cloak is the Invisibility Cloak, and is very excited, but soon discovers that Lovegood has betrayed them to the Ministry; Luna, his daughter, has been taken captive and he believes that giving them Harry Potter would cause them to free her. The trio barely escape from the wizards sent to fetch them, but Harry is emboldened and believes that they need to collect all the Deathly Hallows, these artifacts given by Death, to defeat Voldemort.
A few weeks later, the three are still no closer to finding the Deathly Hallows or more Horcruxes. They finally manage to tune into a rogue wizard radio broadcast, run by people they know which gives news on what is really happening. However, Harry accidentally says Voldemort’s name and Voldemort’s followers, having jinxed the name, find Harry, Ron, and Hermione and capture them, taking them to Lucius Malfoy’s home. There, Hermione is tortured and interrogated by Bellatrix Lestrange to find how she acquired Godric Griffindor’s sword, believing it to have been stolen from her vault, while Harry and Ron are imprisoned in the basement with Dean Thomas, Griphook the goblin, Ollivander the wand maker, and Luna Lovegood. Harry asks the broken fragment of mirror he has for help and Dobby appears to help him, freeing them. Dobby saves Dean and Ollivander, but they have made too much noise and Wormtail is sent to check on the prisoners. Harry and Ron subdue him, and Wormtail resists strangling Harry. Ron takes away Wormtail’s wand and Wormtail’s artificial arm, made by Voldemort, strangles its owner to death for the mercy he’s shown. Ron and Harry, helpless to aid him, rush upstairs to save Hermione with the help of Dobby. They escape as Voldemort is close to arriving, but Dobby is slain by Bellatrix Lestrange as they flee.
After burying Dobby, Harry and his friends begin planning anew. Harry questions Ollivander about the Elder Wand, and chooses not to try and prevent Voldemort from acquiring it from the tomb of its last owner, Dumbledore. Instead, he questions Griphook about how to break into Gringott’s, and in exchange offers him the goblin made sword of Godric Griffindor. After extensive planning, the group goes to Gringott’s to see if they can find one of the horcruxes in the Lestrange vault; Hermione poses as Bellatrix Lestrange, Ron is disguised, and Griphook and Harry go in under the Invisibility Cloak. They manage to penetrate the traps and find the horcrux, Hufflepuff’s cup, but Griphook betrays their presence and flees with the sword. Harry, Ron, and Hermione narrowly escape on the back of a captive dragon, but Voldemort discovers at long last that they are seeking out his horcruxes.
Harry has a vision shortly after the escape; he can see from Voldemort’s eyes and hear his thoughts. Voldemort lists off all the locations of the horcruxes, realizing now they are being sought after and destroyed. Voldemort inadvertently reveals that the final horcrux, which Harry suspects to be a relic of the founder of Ravenclaw, is safe within Hogwarts. Harry realizes that if they want to get the Horcrux within Hogwarts, they need to do so immediately, before Voldemort finds his other horcruxes missing, and the trio immediately head to Hogsmeade to find a way to sneak into their old school.
At Hogsmeade, Harry and friends are cornered by Death Eaters and saved by Aberforth Dumbledore. Aberforth opens a secret passageway to Hogwarts, where Neville Longbottom greets them. After saving Draco Malfoy's life, Harry finds Ravenclaw's Diadem in the room of requirement and it is destroyed. Harry, Hermione and Ron go to the Shrieking Shack, where they see Voldemort kill Snape, believing this will transfer the Elder wand's power to him. As he dies, Snape gives up memories to Harry, which reveal that Snape was on Dumbledore's side, motivated by his lifelong love of Lily Potter. Snape was asked by Dumbledore to kill him if the situation demands it; the curse placed on the horcrux ring limited his life, regardless. Resigned to his fate, Harry sacrifices himself to Voldemort, and is seemingly killed, although it is unclear if he actually dies. Meeting the deceased Albus Dumbledore in what appears to be a deserted Kings Cross station, he discovers he was the final horcrux and needed to die before Voldemort can be killed finding that the spell destroyed the part of Voldemort's soul he had inside himself. He also discovers Dumbledore himself sought the Hallows, with Grindlewald, for less than noble reasons; only Harry is worthy. He returns to consciousness/life inside Hogwarts, for a final duel with Voldemort. Nagini, the last horcrux, is killed by Neville using Gryffindor's sword pulled from the sorting hat. Comming face to face with Voldemort, Harry is seemingly faced with impossible odds - with Voldemort posessing the Elder wand, he cannot be beaten in a duel with Harry. However, Harry gambles correctly that Draco Malfoy was the true master of the Elder Wand, not Snape - by Disarming Malfoy, the mastership of the wand has passed to Harry, not Voldemort. When Voldemort strikes Harry with the killing curse from the Elder wand it rebounds on himself, due to Harry's mastership of the wand, killing himself once and for all.
In the story's epilogue, taking place 19 years (2017) after the Battle of Hogwarts, Harry and Ginny Weasley have three children named James, Albus Severus, and Lily, Neville Longbottom becomes the herbology professor at Hogwarts, and Ron and Hermione have two children named Rose and Hugo. Draco Malfoy has a child named Scorpius. They all meet at King's Cross, about to send their children to Hogwarts at the beginning of term. It is revealed that Harry's scar has not hurt since the Dark Lord's defeat, and there, the story ends.
What a disapointment! Just Snape and Dobby and Mad Eye!
Why didnt she kill off Harry, Ron, Hermoine, Hagrid!?
Good triumphs over evil? Meh! And that cushy cushy ending - :sick:
BOOOO!
.:SpIcYsPy:.
21-07-2007, 12:14
I hated how JK wrote where they all were in a 2017! I think it should have just been left there and then. What is a horcrux? I am not SO into HP but I do read it lol.. As if everything was alright in a few years time though, I mean there are still bad wizards out there and surely everything wasnt perfect throughout the times! I have to agree with you BB, dissapointing ending.. I was hoping slightly Harry would die so it would be a twist and good and bad are both sort of defeated..
I hated how JK wrote where they all were in a 2017! I think it should have just been left there and then. What is a horcrux? I am not SO into HP but I do read it lol.. As if everything was alright in a few years time though, I mean there are still bad wizards out there and surely everything wasnt perfect throughout the times! I have to agree with you BB, dissapointing ending.. I was hoping slightly Harry would die so it would be a twist and good and bad are both sort of defeated..
I know there wasnt even any Neville twist or anything, just predictable really.
To prevent himself from being destroyed, Voldermort split his soul into seven horcruxs, items/people, they'd all have to be destroyed before voldermot could be killed.
Chloe O'brien
21-07-2007, 23:27
What a disapointment to what could have been a brilliant ending. I think JK has opted for the happier ending to please fans rather than taking a risk and killing Harry.
What a disapointment! Just Snape and Dobby and Mad Eye!
Why didnt she kill off Harry, Ron, Hermoine, Hagrid!?
Good triumphs over evil? Meh! And that cushy cushy ending - :sick:
BOOOO!
just finished it - snape Dobby colin creavey hedwig mad eye Fred (told ya rach) tonks lupid and harry - sort of - oh and good old voldy!!! All died
I loved every minute of it couldnt put it down at all there were bits i didnt understand but maybe thats just because i was rushing to get it finished before anyone ruined it for me - gonna read it again.
Dont mind admitting i burst into tears when he asked Sirius , lilly , lupin and james if it hurt to be killed!! Omg that was so sad.
Personally i think she done a great job with this book, well done JK!!!
Chloe O'brien
22-07-2007, 01:53
I agree she has done a fab job not just with this book but the whole legacy of Harry Potter. I just feel that no-one including her had banked on the phenominal popularity of HP would have on both young and old readers across the world and if they hadn't been made into films would she have changed the ending.
Jessie Wallace
22-07-2007, 07:07
What a disapointment! Just Snape and Dobby and Mad Eye!
Why didnt she kill off Harry, Ron, Hermoine, Hagrid!?
Good triumphs over evil? Meh! And that cushy cushy ending - :sick:
BOOOO!
just finished it - snape Dobby colin creavey hedwig mad eye Fred (told ya rach) tonks lupid and harry - sort of - oh and good old voldy!!! All died
I didn't think Harry died? or Fred. I'm confused. And Tonks no, i love her character. Plus Bry said Snape died too, true or false?
What a disapointment! Just Snape and Dobby and Mad Eye!
Why didnt she kill off Harry, Ron, Hermoine, Hagrid!?
Good triumphs over evil? Meh! And that cushy cushy ending - :sick:
BOOOO!
just finished it - snape Dobby colin creavey hedwig mad eye Fred (told ya rach) tonks lupid and harry - sort of - oh and good old voldy!!! All died
I didn't think Harry died? or Fred. I'm confused. And Tonks no, i love her character. Plus Bry said Snape died too, true or false?
Yeah snpae too i mentioned him in my post. Harry Kinda died, He was a horcrux so he had to die to remove that. But that made his soul full again and dumbledore gave him to choice to go back while sitting in what i can only assume is limbo.
Tonks and lupin dying was so sad considering they had just had a kid. When fred goes theres a bit were they are all standing round him but George his lying beside him storking his hair :crying:
The one thing I wish she would have done was expand abit on that last chapter maybe skipping through the years seeing harry ginny & ron and hermione getting married - maybe a bit like we saw in doctor who a few weeks ago when we saw him get married and have kids see them off the school and finially become an old man??
Charity Burbage Voldemort Avada Kedavra Gathering of Death Eaters at Malfoy Manor
Hedwig A Death Eater Avada Kedavra The flight from Little Whinging
Alastor Moody Voldemort Avada Kedavra The flight from Little Whinging
Ted Tonks Snatchers Unknown The search for Muggles and Blood Traitors
Dirk Cresswell Snatchers Unknown The search for Muggles and Blood Traitors
Gregorovitch Voldemort Unknown Unknown
Rufus Scrimgeour Voldemort Unknown Sometime during the course of Bill & Fleur's wedding
Grindelwald Voldemort Avada Kedavra Coincides with the escape from Malfoy Manor
Bathilda Bagshot Voldemort Unknown Unknown
Wormtail His own magic silver hand Strangulation The escape from Malfoy Manor
Dobby Bellatrix Lestrange Throwing knife The escape from Malfoy Manor
Remus Lupin Unknown Unknown Second Battle of Hogwarts
Nymphadora Tonks Unknown Unknown Second Battle of Hogwarts
Vincent Crabbe Himself Fiendfyre Second Battle of Hogwarts
Severus Snape Nagini Snakebite Second Battle of Hogwarts
Fred Weasley Rookwood Unknown Second Battle of Hogwarts
Colin Creevey Unknown Unknown Second Battle of Hogwarts
Nagini Neville Beheaded with Gryffindor's sword Second Battle of Hogwarts
Antonin Dolohov Professor Flitwick Unknown spell Second Battle of Hogwarts
Bellatrix Lestrange Molly Weasley Unknown spell Second Battle of Hogwarts
Voldemort Himself Avada Kedavra (Spell backfire caused by Elder Wand Allegiance) Second Battle of Hogwarts
About 50 people were killed in the Second Battle of Hogwarts, but most of their names are not given.
Personally, I blooming loved every minute of reading the book. It arrived at 9am at mine, I finished it at 12am and thought it was fantastic. So many deaths and within the first couple of chapters we'd lost Mad Eye and Hedwig. Harry facing his own death in the manner he did, and then having the conversation with Dumbledore - there was me thinking how could you Dumbledore to start with after Snape's ponsieve bit, but then it all fitted.
JK did a brilliant job and all of these books, and this one for sure, will remain with me for many many years.
:clap::clap:
.:SpIcYsPy:.
22-07-2007, 14:40
I am really dissapointed that Ron and Hermoine got married... and Harry and Ginny (a little bit likely though).. it just dosen't seem right from what we know now and then what happens in a few years time.. a big time change and a game.. I think the book would have been perfect if it didn't fast forward a few years..
Chloe-Elise
22-07-2007, 14:56
I finished the book this morning, and I thought it was aboslutely brilliant. So many deaths, but I thought it was all brilliantly written, there was loads of twists and surprises, I loved it. :clap:
Jessie Wallace
22-07-2007, 18:20
What a disapointment! Just Snape and Dobby and Mad Eye!
Why didnt she kill off Harry, Ron, Hermoine, Hagrid!?
Good triumphs over evil? Meh! And that cushy cushy ending - :sick:
BOOOO!
just finished it - snape Dobby colin creavey hedwig mad eye Fred (told ya rach) tonks lupid and harry - sort of - oh and good old voldy!!! All died
I didn't think Harry died? or Fred. I'm confused. And Tonks no, i love her character. Plus Bry said Snape died too, true or false?
Yeah snpae too i mentioned him in my post. Harry Kinda died, He was a horcrux so he had to die to remove that. But that made his soul full again and dumbledore gave him to choice to go back while sitting in what i can only assume is limbo.
Tonks and lupin dying was so sad considering they had just had a kid. When fred goes theres a bit were they are all standing round him but George his lying beside him storking his hair :crying:
The one thing I wish she would have done was expand abit on that last chapter maybe skipping through the years seeing harry ginny & ron and hermione getting married - maybe a bit like we saw in doctor who a few weeks ago when we saw him get married and have kids see them off the school and finially become an old man??
Sorry was half asleep when i read it this morning, impressed i managed to drive to work! lol
Anyway thank you for helping, i'm trying trying to find someone to leand me the book!
Loved every second of the 7th book, i cried (alot) laughed and couldn't wait for the next page to come as a new reader to the books it's by far my favourite (i only started reading the books at the end of May)
I was very sad that they killed Lupin and Tonks but it made sense in a way because in a way one couldn't really live without the other
Cried when poor Fred died but at least he died smiling
Percy came back and yay I was right about Snape he was under Dumbledore's orders and I kinda thought he always had a thing for Lily cos whenever he bad-mouthed Harry it was James he refered to never Lily
Dobby died a true hero bless him and Harry lived I was so pleased he did and when he was walking to his death I was a bit of a hysterical mess by then with his parents, Sirius and Remus beside him (I do adore Sirius)
And my new un-sung heroine Mrs Weasley killing Bellatrix what a woman and calling her a b***h and Neville how fab was he I cried when he told Harry about life at Hogwarts with Snape as Headmaster and all the stuff he'd done and he was loyal to the end and got the sword
was a tad disappointed in the happy ending thing (ok not so happy as people had died but happy enough) i excepted at least one of the three to die I know Harry did technically but still..........
Loved every second thanks to very brilliantly talented J.K Rowling just wish Sirius came back just a bit longer :crying: and poor George :crying:
Managed to read the book this weekend. Hugely entertaining read but as you got through the story you could guess some of the outcome. The epilogue really wasn't required. I like to be left wondering rather than have the idyllic future portrayed.
Anyone else think the death and resurrection of Harry was similar to that of Aslan in The Lion, the witch and the wardrobe?
CrazyLea
23-07-2007, 01:13
It arrived at 9am at mine, I finished it at 12am
I must say you were the faster reader of this book I have met so far :lol: Fair play to you!! My mate read it in like 6 hours which I thought was fast, but compared to you :D. I heard all about it anyway. Sounds fab, lending it off my mate when she's read it ( different one )
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Anyone else think the death and resurrection of Harry was similar to that of Aslan in The Lion, the witch and the wardrobe?
Very similar - in the same way as Aslan knew that he was sacrificing himself (but also knew that he would return), Harry prepared to sacrifice himself aswell, although he didn't obviously know that he would resurrect. Quite an emotional part of the story though, just like it was in The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe.
Bad Wolf
23-07-2007, 11:29
Managed to read the book this weekend. Hugely entertaining read but as you got through the story you could guess some of the outcome. The epilogue really wasn't required. I like to be left wondering rather than have the idyllic future portrayed.
Anyone else think the death and resurrection of Harry was similar to that of Aslan in The Lion, the witch and the wardrobe?
i saw loads of links with other things - its a much more socially aware book i think,
i spent the last chapters in tears - easpecially the princes tale, i now have a new love for snape - he loved lily!!!!
absolutely brilliant book - gutted its over, going to reread this week - slowly to take everything in
Managed to read the book this weekend. Hugely entertaining read but as you got through the story you could guess some of the outcome. The epilogue really wasn't required. I like to be left wondering rather than have the idyllic future portrayed.
Anyone else think the death and resurrection of Harry was similar to that of Aslan in The Lion, the witch and the wardrobe?
i saw loads of links with other things - its a much more socially aware book i think,
i spent the last chapters in tears - easpecially the princes tale, i now have a new love for snape - he loved lily!!!!
absolutely brilliant book - gutted its over, going to reread this week - slowly to take everything in
yeah going to read it again myself just need to give myself a wee break though my eye actually hurt since i couldnt find my reading glasses and was determinded to read it - although mum seemed to find them as soon as i got the the last chapter in her bag :angry:
Im just finding it had to take in that we will never read another new harry potter book :crying:
Bad Wolf
23-07-2007, 11:56
Managed to read the book this weekend. Hugely entertaining read but as you got through the story you could guess some of the outcome. The epilogue really wasn't required. I like to be left wondering rather than have the idyllic future portrayed.
Anyone else think the death and resurrection of Harry was similar to that of Aslan in The Lion, the witch and the wardrobe?
i saw loads of links with other things - its a much more socially aware book i think,
i spent the last chapters in tears - easpecially the princes tale, i now have a new love for snape - he loved lily!!!!
absolutely brilliant book - gutted its over, going to reread this week - slowly to take everything in
yeah going to read it again myself just need to give myself a wee break though my eye actually hurt since i couldnt find my reading glasses and was determinded to read it - although mum seemed to find them as soon as i got the the last chapter in her bag :angry:
Im just finding it had to take in that we will never read another new harry potter book :crying:
i know im gutted!!!:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
i cant believe i cried so much - you were right they killed a twin!!!
cant believe they killed both tonks and lupin!!!!
and i cant believe hagrid survived - i was sure he was a gonna
Bad Wolf
23-07-2007, 12:04
ok, like the last book - what was true and false?
Character Information
* We will find out something "incredibly important" about Lily Potter -yrh we did - snape loved her from when they were children and theats why Dumbledore trusted him
* We will find out who R.A.B. is - sirius's bro
* We will discover more about Dumbledore's past - loads more
* We will discover where Snape's loyalties lie. with dumbledore, lily and harry
* Something will be revealed about Petunia Dursley, although it will not be that she is a Squib -she knew snape when she was a kid - thats the significant thing
* Viktor Krum will return (World Book Day, 2004 interview) - only in letter form
* We will see a reappearance of Dolores Umbridge - "It's too much fun to torture her not to have another little bit more before I finish." (MuggleNet/Leaky Interview) she supported voldy in his search for undesirables
* JKR has said, "There is a character who does manage, in desperate circumstances, to do magic quite late in life, but that is very rare..." did they?
Plot Information
* Harry will face Voldemort for the final time - true
* Harry will be attempting to find and destroy Voldemort’s remaining Horcruxes true
* Harry will return to the Dursleys' during the school vacation, but the magical protection Dumbledore arranged will expire on his 17th birthday when he comes of age true
* Harry will visit Godric's Hollow true
* There will be a reappearance of the two-way mirror ture - harry comes across dumbledores bro alberforth
* We will see the wedding of Fleur and Bill Weasley what a event!!!
* The fact that Harry "has his mother's eyes" will prove to be an important plot point - only that they reminded snape of lily and thets why he could never truly hate harry
* At least one character will die er several actually
Other
* We will finally learn the full reason why some people become ghosts when they die and others don't big decision that one
* The final chapter, which has already been written, will detail what happens to the characters that survive most of them
* There will be no more Quidditch matches true
Managed to read the book this weekend. Hugely entertaining read but as you got through the story you could guess some of the outcome. The epilogue really wasn't required. I like to be left wondering rather than have the idyllic future portrayed.
Anyone else think the death and resurrection of Harry was similar to that of Aslan in The Lion, the witch and the wardrobe?
i saw loads of links with other things - its a much more socially aware book i think,
i spent the last chapters in tears - easpecially the princes tale, i now have a new love for snape - he loved lily!!!!
absolutely brilliant book - gutted its over, going to reread this week - slowly to take everything in
yeah going to read it again myself just need to give myself a wee break though my eye actually hurt since i couldnt find my reading glasses and was determinded to read it - although mum seemed to find them as soon as i got the the last chapter in her bag :angry:
Im just finding it had to take in that we will never read another new harry potter book :crying:
i know im gutted!!!:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
i cant believe i cried so much - you were right they killed a twin!!!
cant believe they killed both tonks and lupin!!!!
and i cant believe hagrid survived - i was sure he was a gonna
Hagrid i was sure was a gonner!!!
Fred i knew it would be if after george lost his ear - which i found quite funny lol
And as soon as they asked harry to be godfather i could see tonks and lupin would die - although i hoped not.
JK finally got her wish and got two swear words in the books - i read an interview a while back where she wanted to show how normal teenages would react and the publishers wouldnt let her swear lol
.:SpIcYsPy:.
23-07-2007, 12:26
I think it's a bit of a dissapointment there were no qudditch matches! That was quite a highlight in the first few films and it's a shame it sort of faded away!
Viktor Krum was at the wedding wasn't he? When he had a go at Xen Lovegood about the symbol on his top he was wearing, thinking it meant something completely different to the Deathly Hallows....
Trying to think of who performed magic that we haven't seen before - Hagrid was the first that came to mind but don't think thats right....:hmm:
Viktor Krum was at the wedding wasn't he? When he had a go at Xen Lovegood about the symbol on his top he was wearing, thinking it meant something completely different to the Deathly Hallows....
Trying to think of who performed magic that we haven't seen before - Hagrid was the first that came to mind but don't think thats right....:hmm:
yeah was just about to post the same thing about him being at the wedding
The thing i didnt understand was hermione and ron right from the start they seemed to be together, i know this was mostly because of the book ron gave harry but it seemed strange to me
Sam-Elle
23-07-2007, 15:32
The thing i didnt understand was hermione and ron right from the start they seemed to be together, i know this was mostly because of the book ron gave harry but it seemed strange to me
I thought the same thing, throughout the book was going 'are they together or not' cause there were the little bits with Ron puting his arm round Hermione and all that.
Lupin & Tonks :wub: I found it so sad when they both died
I loved the bit with Snape at the end: when he died/the princes tale. I cried when I realised why Snape wanted Harry to look into his eyes as he died - (Lilys eyes)
I felt so happy when I found out my guess about Harry was the 7th Horcrux was right :p
The thing i didnt understand was hermione and ron right from the start they seemed to be together, i know this was mostly because of the book ron gave harry but it seemed strange to me
I thought the same thing, throughout the book was going 'are they together or not' cause there were the little bits with Ron puting his arm round Hermione and all that.
Ron and Hermione have been getting together since OOTP, JK drops subtle hints throughout books five & six so if you didn't notice them you would probably not know why they were together now. It was more reverse-psychology type hints than the teenage crush type thing.
I finished it last night :thumbsup: Has to be the best book of the series. So many secrets revealed, not to mention the bloody massacre on the characters. Snape is a dark horse, who would have thought he would have loved Lily, and try as he might, not be able to fully hate Harry. I feel sad that he's dead now.
Dumbledore feature heavily, a bit too much for my liking though. He was in every chapter in some way or another. Its a shame that JK couldn't kill Umbridge off.
I'm still not sure about the ending, I don't know if getting married was what I wanted for Harry. I suppose JK has done it to stop people writing other stories about him and thats why it's set nineteen years in the future.
I'm going to start reading again from the beginning tonight. I'm still not sure who does magic who hasn't before.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
23-07-2007, 19:32
I suppose someone could still write something inbetween all those years though.. who knows she could do so in the future herself?!
Jada-GDR
24-07-2007, 15:26
I quite liked the ending - it takes a while to try and get your head round a 36 year old Harry, but I think it was a good idea cause 1] It can't exactly stop other people writing a sequal, but since we know what happens to them it would put people off a lot, and 2] I think if she had just left it at the end of the second last chapter, possibly the idea that voldemort might not actually be dead yet would stick in people's minds - what if he had come back to life again, or, like Harry, not actually been dead at all? I think showing such a large gap in time showed that he has really gone forever.
And the Harry/Ginny, Hermione/Ron marriage thing does seem a bit cheesy, but when you think about it they did love each other, and they were all adults, so its not like they just had a bit of a crush on each other in school and then it said they got married.
I really wish Fred hadn't died - or at least I wish George had died too, I was like SHE CAN'T JUST KILL OFF ONE OF THEM! Just cause they're the twins, I suppose, and they're supposed to be together in everything. Yeah, if I could bring back one character it would be Fred :D
<3
Bad Wolf
24-07-2007, 16:04
there are a few fun ones we can guess over,
such as:
what happened to luna? we know about professor longbottom but what about luna?
who is headmaster - my money is on hagrid
what about the weasleys joke shop?
what profession did they all take?
i would have thought hermionie would have been the new trasfiguration teacher????
asnswers / questions please?
I loved this book! I found it really gripping and entertaining the whole way through, and loved the fact that it was so fast paced through the whole book. I like the confrontation between Voldy and Harry at the end as well. The Epilogue didn't really float my boat, but thats just a personal preference, i guess. I like them normally, but what happened to them in the future was so simple, that i'd rather we didn't know.
Cant wait to see how they adapt this one for the film though- looks like its gonna be amazing!
Behemoth
27-07-2007, 17:53
I loved the book and thought it was just as good, if not better than the previous ones. Jo is so descriptive when she writes and makes you feel as though you are there with Harry!
I was confused about one thing though...at the end, Harry says to Voldemort that Draco Malfoy was the master of the Elder Wand. How is this possible? I thought it was Snape as he killed Dumbledore and then Voldemort as he killed Snape...?
di marco
27-07-2007, 21:24
I was confused about one thing though...at the end, Harry says to Voldemort that Draco Malfoy was the master of the Elder Wand. How is this possible? I thought it was Snape as he killed Dumbledore and then Voldemort as he killed Snape...?
i was confused about this to start with but after thinking about it and discussing it with my sis we came up with a theory, not sure if its right but ill have a go at explaining it
in snapes memories it says about dumbledore asking snape to kill him so that draco doesnt and also something about you have to defeat the master of the wand with force to become the new master. well what we thought was snape didnt kill dumbledore with force cos it was planned and snape was doing what dumbledore wanted, and he was only doing that so that draco didnt kill dumbledore himself. therefore snape couldnt get the wand but draco could cos even though draco didnt actually kill dumbledore, dumbledores death happened cos draco was going to kill him, therefore in a way his death was dracos fault so draco became the new master
this was what we thought happened anyway, hopefully ive explained it ok cos im not too good at explaining things lol!
The question about someone doing magic late in life was put to J K Rowling on a web chat she did on the Bloomsberry website. Her reply was (a classic in my mind).....
J.K. Rowling: I'm sorry about this, but I changed my mind!!!
Abi, is your avatar the Deathly Hallows?
I'm re-reading it now to see if I can pick anything up that I missed. Like somebody said, I don't like the ending where Harry and Co get married. I don't think Hermione is a teacher because she wouldn't have been at the station to wave the kids off. She probably works at the Minstry.
yummy_mummy
31-07-2007, 16:42
:thumbsup:
i agree, the ending was a bit cheesy considering we waited years for it but then again how many ways can you end something that has taken over your life for the past 10 years lol. having said that, overall i thought it was fantastic and really gripping, once i picked it up i literally could not put it down, i would recommend the harry potter books to anyone...well done jk rowling for keeping us all entertained with harry's adventures for the past ten years. i cant wait to find out what else is hid up her invisibilty cloak, that was a bit cheesy wasn't it? lol:rotfl:
yummy_mummy
31-07-2007, 16:46
I was confused about one thing though...at the end, Harry says to Voldemort that Draco Malfoy was the master of the Elder Wand. How is this possible? I thought it was Snape as he killed Dumbledore and then Voldemort as he killed Snape...?
i was confused about this to start with but after thinking about it and discussing it with my sis we came up with a theory, not sure if its right but ill have a go at explaining it
in snapes memories it says about dumbledore asking snape to kill him so that draco doesnt and also something about you have to defeat the master of the wand with force to become the new master. well what we thought was snape didnt kill dumbledore with force cos it was planned and snape was doing what dumbledore wanted, and he was only doing that so that draco didnt kill dumbledore himself. therefore snape couldnt get the wand but draco could cos even though draco didnt actually kill dumbledore, dumbledores death happened cos draco was going to kill him, therefore in a way his death was dracos fault so draco became the new master
this was what we thought happened anyway, hopefully ive explained it ok cos im not too good at explaining things lol!
yeah and then harry became the master of the elder wand cos he took the malfoys wand by force and as malfoy didn't own the elder wand at that moment harry also gained possesion of it, it only made sense to me after i read the for the second time
JK: I'm here and I can't wait! Bring on the questions!
Q: What, if anything, did the wizarding world learn, and how did society change, as a direct result of the war with Voldemort? (i.e., not as a result of Harry, Ron and Hermione's future careers.)
JK: The Ministry of Magic was de-corrupted, and with Kingsley at the helm the discrimination that was always latent there was eradicated. Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny et al would of course play a significant part in the re-building of wizarding society through their future careers.
Q: Did lucius malfoy, and all the other escaped death eaters, go back to azkaban
JK: No, the Malfoys weaseled their way out of trouble (again) due to the fact that they colluded (albeit out of self-interest) with Harry at the end of the battle.
Q: In the chapter of kings cross, are they behind the veil or in some world between the real world and the veil?
JK: You can make up your own mind on this, but I think that Harry entered a kind of limbo between life and death.
Q: From reading about the original owners of the deathly hallows, the peverell brothers, i'm wondering if harry and voldermort are distantly related voldermorts grandfather ended up with the resurrection stone ring ?
JK: Yes, Harry and Voldemort are distantly related through the Peverells. Of course, nearly all wizarding families are related if you trace them back through the centuries. As was made clear in 'Deathly hallows', Peverell blood would run through many wizarding families.
Q: What did you feel when you finally wrote the kiss, awaited so much by the fans, of ron and hermione
JK: I loved writing it, and I loved the fact that Hermione took the initiative! Ron had finally got SPEW and earned himself a snog!
Q: Why is it that albus dumbledore can see harry under his invisibility cloak at certain moments? (during the series is the cloak only infallible to those who do not own a deathly hallow).
JK: Dumbledore, who could perform magic without needing to say the incantation aloud, was using 'homenum revelio' - the human-presence-revealing spell Hermione makes use of in Deathly Hallows.
Q: What ever happened to winky?
JK: She's still at Hogwarts, and she was one of the oncoming house-elves who attacked the Death Eaters in the final battle.
Q: Does hermione still continue to do work with spew and is life any better for house elves!
JK: Hermione began her post-Hogwarts career at the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures where she was instrumental in greatly improving life for house-elves and their ilk. She then moved (despite her jibe to Scrimgeour) to the Dept. of Magical Law Enforcement
Q: What or who is peeves exactly, is he linked with the blood barons story?
JK: No, Peeves is not linked to the bloody Baron's story. He is a spirit of chaos that entered the building long ago and has proved impossible to eradicate!
Q: What happend to luna, did she get married who to?
JK: Luna became a very famous wizarding naturalist who discovered and classified many new species of animals (though, alas, she never did find a Crumple-Horned Snorkack and had, finally, to accept that her father might have made that one up). She ended up marrying (rather later than Harry & co) a fellow naturalist and grandson of the great Newt Scamander (Rolf)!
Q: What does in essence divided mean?
JK: Dumbledore suspected that the snake's essence was divided - that it contained part of Voldemort's soul, and that was why it was so very adept at doing his bidding. This also explained why Harry, the last and unintended Horcrux, could see so clearly through the snake's eyes, just as he regularly sees through Voldemort's. Dumbledore is thinking aloud here, edging towards the truth with the help of the Pensieve.
Q: What was duldeys worst memory?
JK: I think that when Dudley was attacked by the Dementors he saw himself, for the first time, as he really was. This was an extremely painful, but ultimately salutory lesson, and began the transformation in him.
Q: Who killed remus and tonks?
JK: Remus was killed by Dolohov and Tonks by Bellatrix.
Q: Was the absence of snapes portrait in the headmasters office in the last scene innocent or deliberate
JK: It was deliberate. Snape had effectively abandoned his post before dying, so he had not merited inclusion in these august circles. However, I like to think that Harry would be instrumental in ensuring that Snape's portrait would appear there in due course.
Q: How did umbridge manage to conjure a patronus while wearing the locket when harry wasnt able to
JK: Because she is a very nasty piece of work. She has an affinity for this horrible object, which would help rather than hinder her.
Q: What happened to Percy, did he return to his job at the ministry?
JK: Yes, the new improved Percy ended up as a high-ranking official under Kingsley.
Q: How did Neville get the Gryffindor sword, is there a link to the hat?
JK: Yes, there is very definitely a link to the hat! Neville, most worthy Gryffindor, asked for help just as Harry did in the Chamber of secrets, and Gryffindor's sword was transported into Gryffindor's old hat -the Sorting Hat was Gryffindor's initially, as you know. Griphook was wrong - Gryffindor did not 'steal' the sword, not unless you are a goblin fanatic and believe that all goblin-made objects really belong to the maker.
Q: Will Azkaban still use dementors?
JK: No, definitely not. Kingsley would see to that. The use of Dementors was always a mark of the underlying corruption of the Ministry, as Dumbledore constantly maintained.
Q: How is George getting along without his twin?
JK: Well, I don't think that George would ever get over losing Fred, which makes me feel so sad. However, he names his first child and son Fred, and he goes on to have a very successful career, helped by good old Ron.
Q: What did dumbledore truly see in the mirror of erised
JK: He saw his family alive, whole and happy - Ariana, Percival and Kendra all returned to him, and Aberforth reconciled to him.
Q: How much does the fact that Voldemort was conceived under a love potion have to do with his non ability to understand love is it more symbolic
JK: It was a symbolic way of showing that he came from a loveless union - but of course, everything would have changed if Merope had survived and raised him herself and loved him.The enchantment under which Tom Riddle fathered Voldemort is important because it shows coercion, and there can't be many more prejudicial ways to enter the world than as the result of such a union.
Q: Do you think snape is a hero
JK: Yes, I do; though a very flawed hero. An anti-hero, perhaps. He is not a particularly likeable man in many ways. He remains rather cruel, a bully, riddled with bitterness and insecurity - and yet he loved, and showed loyalty to that love and, ultimately, laid down his life because of it. That's pretty heroic!
Q: Voldemort never told anyone about his horcruxes, so how on earth did regulus black discover his secret
JK: Horcrux magic was not Voldemort's own invention; as is established in the story, other wizards had done it, though never gone as far as to make six. Voldemort dropped oblique hints; in his arrogance, he did not believe anybody would be clever enough to understand them. (He does so in the graveyard of Little Hangleton, in front of Harry). He did this before Regulus and Regulus guessed, correctly, what it was that made Voldemort so convinced he could not die.
Q: Did lily ever have feelings back for snape
JK: Yes. She might even have grown to love him romantically (she certainly loved him as a friend) if he had not loved Dark Magic so much, and been drawn to such loathesome people and acts.
Q: So what happens to all the dementors where will they go will they be destroyed if so, how
JK: You cannot destroy Dementors, though you can limit their numbers if you eradicate the conditions in which they multiply, ie, despair and degradation. As I've already said, though, the Ministry no longer used them to torment its opponents.
Q: Does the wizarding world now know that snape was dumbledores man, or do they still think he did a bunk
JK: Harry would ensure that Snape's heroism was known. Of course, that would not stop Rita Skeeter writing 'Snape: Scoundrel or Saint?'
Q: Is teddy lupin a werewolf
JK: No, he's a Metamorphmagus like his mother.
Q: Whose murders did voldemor use to create each of the horcruxes
JK: The diary - Moaning Myrtle. The cup - Hepzibah Smith, the previous owner. The locket - a Muggle tramp. Nagini - Bertha Jorkins (Voldemort could use a wand once he regained a rudimentary body, as long as the victim was subdued). The diadem - an Albanian peasant. The ring - Tom Riddle snr.
Q: Why did dumbledore want ron to keep his deluminator
JK: Because he knew that Ron might need a little more guidance than the other two. Dumbledore understood Ron's importance in the trio. He wasn't the most skilled, or the most intelligent, but he held them together; his humour and his good heart were essential.
Q: Are house divisions as prevalaent in harry’s children’s hogwarts as in the previous generations
JK: Slytherin has become diluted. It is no longer the pureblood bastion it once was. Nevertheless, its dark reputation lingers, hence Albus Potter's fears.
Q: Lily detested mulciber and avery. if snape really loved her,why didnt he sacrifice their company for her sake
JK: Well, that is Snape's tragedy. Given his time over again he would not have become a Death Eater, but like many insecure, vulnerable people (like Wormtail) he craved membership of something big and powerful, something impressive. He wanted Lily and he wanted Mulciber too. He never really understood Lily's aversion; he was so blinded by his attraction to the dark side he thought she would find him impressive if he became a real Death Eater.
Q: What does it mean to be the master of death
JK: As Dumbledore explains, the real master of Death accepts that he must die, and that there are much worse things in the world of the living. It is not about striving for immortality, but about accepting mortality.
Q: I was very disappointed to see harry use crucio and seem to enjoy it his failure to perform that kind of curse in the past has been a credit to his character why the change, and did harry later regret having enjoyed deliberately causing pain
JK: Harry is not, and never has been, a saint. Like Snape, he is flawed and mortal. Harry's faults are primarily anger and occasional arrogance. On this occasion, he is very angry and acts accordingly. He is also in an extreme situation, and attempting to defend somebody very good against a violent and murderous opponent.
Q: What child did harry give the marauders map to if any
JK: I've got a feeling he didn't give it to any of them, but that James sneaked it out of his father's desk one day.
Q: What did petunia wanted to say to hary at the end of the dursleys departing
JK: I think that for one moment she trembled on the verge of wishing Harry luck; that she almost acknowledged that her loathing of his world, and of him, was born out of jealousy. But she couldn't do it; years of pretending that 'normal' was best had hardened her too much.
Q: Can harry speak parseltongue when he is no longer a horcrux?
JK: No, he loses the ability, and is very glad to do so.
Q: How did Sirius' two way mirror end up with Aberforth or is it another two way mirror
JK: You see Aberforth meeting Mundungus in Hogsmeade. That was the occasion on which Dung, who had taken Sirius's mirror from Grimmauld Place, sold it to Aberforth.
Q: If moody got a magic eye, and wormtail got a magic hand, couldnt there be some way to form a magical ear, if only to cover up the hole and make george look more symmetrical
JK: Yes, he could wear a false ear (I'm starting to giggle at the thought. Perhaps he's better off with the hole!)
Q: What is dumbledores boggart?
JK: The corpse of his sister.
Q: What is toadface umbridge doing now
JK: Glad to see you like her as much as I do! She was arrested, interrogated and imprisoned for crimes against Muggleborns.
Q: How exactly do muggleborns receive magical ability
JK: Muggle-borns will have a witch or wizard somewhere on their family tree, in some cases many, many generations back. The gene re-surfaces in some unexpected places.
Q: Was hermione able to find her parents and undo the memory damage
JK: Yes, she brought them home straight away.
Q: I would like to know how come no one seemed to know that lily and snape were friends in school they were obviously meeting for chats, etc didnt james know their past
JK: Yes, it was known that they were friendly and then stopped being friends. Nothing more than that would be widely known. James always suspected Snape harboured deeper feelings for Lily, which was a factor in James' behaviour to Snape.
Q: Why did regulus have a change of heart
JK: He was not prepared for the reality of life as a Death Eater. It was Voldemort's attempted murder of Kreacher that really turned him.
Q: Did draco and harry lose their animosity towards eachother when voldemort died
JK: Not really. There would be a kind of rapprochement, in that Harry knows Draco hated being a Death Eater, and would not have killed Dumbledore; similarly, Draco would feel a grudging gratitude towards Harry for saving his life. Real friendship would be out of the question, though. Too much had happened prior to the final battle.
Q: Why was snape so badly groomed
JK: Hmm. Good question. Poor eyesight? Did he look in the mirror and believe he was gorgeous as he was? I think it more likely that he valued other qualities in himself!
Q: Has the jinx on the dada teaching post at hogwarts been lifted
JK: Yes, at last! Incidentally, I know some have asked about Quirrell with regard to this question. He was teaching at Hogwarts for more than a year, but NOT in the post of D.A.D.A. teacher. He was previously Muggle Studies professor.
Q: What ever happened to aberforth
JK: He is still there, at the Hog's Head, playing with his goats.
Q: Is narcissa malfoy really a death eater
JK: No, she never had the Dark Mark and was never a fully paid-up member. However, her views were identical to those of her husband until Voldemort planned the death of her son.
Q: Did mr weasley ever get around to fixing sirius motorbike
JK: Of course, and it ended up in Harry's possession.
Q: Do you think dumbledore was a little more fond of ron than either ron or harry believed
JK: Yes, I do. Through Harry's account of Ron, and from reports of the professors who taught Ron, Dumbledore understood Ron better than Ron ever knew, and liked him, too.
Q: James patronus is a stag and lilys a doe is that a coincidence?
JK: No, the Patronus often mutates to take the image of the love of one's life (because they so often become the 'happy thought' that generates a Patronus).
Q: Were there seven horcruxes not six as dumbledore intimated to harry if so, does this mean that voldemort had an 8 part soul not a 7
JK: Yes, Voldemort accidentally broke his soul into eight parts, not seven.
Q: How come voldemort was no longer employing occlumency against harry, as he was in the 6th book
JK: He is losing control, and unable to prevent Harry seeing into his mind. The connection between them is never fully understood by Voldemort, who does not know that Harry is a Horcrux.
Q: Why did you feel that hedwigs death was necessary
JK: The loss of Hedwig represented a loss of innocence and security. She has been almost like a cuddly toy to Harry at times. Voldemort killing her marked the end of childhood. I'm sorry... I know that death upset a LOT of people!
Q: Will we see harry and his friends having their own history on chocolate frogs cards
JK: Definitely, and Ron will describe this as his finest hour.
Q: Was snape the only death eater who could produce a full patronus
JK: Yes, because a Patronus is used against things that the Death Eaters generally generate, or fight alongside. They would not need Patronuses.
Q: Why is it that voldemort is unaware that the gaunt ring is a hallow, when he has worn it?
JK: Wearing the ring would not make the stone work. The stone existed outside the ring originally, and to use it you had to turn it three times in your hand.
Q: Does the dark mark remain on those that voldemort has branded after his death or does the tattoo dissapear now he is gone?
JK: The Dark Mark would fade to a scar, not dissimilar to the lightning scar on Harry's forehead. Like Harry's, these scars would no longer burn or hurt.
Q: Does winky still drink a lot of butterbear
JK: She's dried out a bit now.
Q: Did bellatrix ever love her husband, or did she have love only for voldemort
JK: She took a pureblood husband, because that was what was expected of her, but her true love was always Voldemort.
Q: How did snape keep his patronus secret from the rest of the order?
JK: He was careful not to use the talking Patronus means of communication with them. This was not difficult, as his particular job within the Order, ie, as spy, meant that sending a Patronus to any of them might have given away his true allegiance.
Q: Did voldemort ever love a girl
JK: No, he loved only power, and himself. He valued people whom he could use to advance his own objectives.
Q: Did the da keep the coins?
JK: Naturally. They would be like badges or medals of honour - proof that the owner had been at the heart of the fight against Voldemort from the start! I like to imagine Neville showing his to his admiring pupils.
Q: How did snape get into grimmauld place to get the second half of the letter, if there were protection spells on the house stopping snape getting in
JK: Snape entered the house immediately after Dumbledore's death, before Moody put up the spells against him.
Q: Did mariettas pimply formation ever fade
JK: Eventually, but it left a few scars. I loathe a traitor!
Q: Why was kings cross the place harry went to when he died
JK: For many reasons. The name works rather well, and it has been established in the books as the gateway between two worlds, and Harry would associate it with moving on between two worlds (don't forget that it is Harry's image we see, not necessarily what is really there.)
Q: What muggle song do you imagine would be played at dumbledores funeral
JK: Surely 'I did it my way' by Frank Sinatra.
di marco
06-08-2007, 10:52
thanks for posting those :)
Q: How is George getting along without his twin?
JK: Well, I don't think that George would ever get over losing Fred, which makes me feel so sad. However, he names his first child and son Fred, and he goes on to have a very successful career, helped by good old Ron.
i was actually wondering at the end of the book why none of the kids were named after fred
i finished it this morning, i was at Chapter 30 at about 12 when i picked it up to read, just wanting to read a couple of chapters but i couldn't put it down, and finished at about 2 this morning!!
I think it was amazing, i think possibly my favourite book, it was just so well written and so deep.
I can see where people are coming from about the epilogue being cheesy and stuff but i liked it, to me it really did end the book (:crying: ) knowing that fur sure Voldemort was gone and that Harry grew up and lead a happy life - with a girl he loved and he had a family and stuff :) She wrote it well so we know how most of the favourite characters end up, but still not mentioning everyone/thing so your imagination can still keep going.
Alot of lose ends were tied up and now i think i finally understand things i didn't in previous books.
Lupin & Tonks & Dobby & Fred & Snape .... :crying: yes i did cry, and when Harry was walking towards Voldemort and he saw his parents,Lupin and Sirius :crying: I think that 'The prince's tale' really stood out for me, a real tearjerker,finally finding out why Snape did everything he did and where his loyalties really did lie.
I can't wait till this film, but i hope they do it justice and don't miss out too much, because its a long book and will have to miss stuff out.
I'm excitied in a sense that i finished it and i finally know what happened and stuff, but i'm also really like upset (yeh call me sad) that its finally finished, i've grown up with Harry Potter and its weird to think that that is it (apart from the films) there will be no more books, no more tales of the trio and there misbehaving at Hogwarts etc. In a way it was a kinda of a reality to me, (if that makes sense) Hogwarts was always real in a sense, i did think that i would be getting an owl through once with my acception to Hogwarts, and i did try to talk to snakes, i've grown up with Harry Potter and now its over, its kind of a chunk of my childhood gone, no other books have ever captured and made my imagination work like these have done, and i will continue to read and re read these books until the ink fades.
Well Done J.K!
Sorry about the essay!!!!
Some news here form mugglenet:
2,000 lucky fans had the opportunity to interact with JK Rowling this evening at Carnegie Hall. The reading was rather eventful, as Jo revealed a lot of new information previously unknown about the series.
The most notable news of the night was the revelation of Dumbledore's sexuality. Jo says Dumbledore was gay and in love with Gellert Grindelwald. JK, in response to the audience's reaction, said "If I had known this would have made you so happy, I would have told you years ago."
Not quite as head-turning, but equally significant, Jo announced Neville Longbottom's marriage with Hannah Abbott. Hannah became the new landlady of the Leaky Cauldron.
Other heart-warming (ha!) news was revealed about Petunia Dursley. The night Harry left Privet Drive, Petunia wanted to tell Harry, "I know what you're up against and I hope it turns out okay."
I wish we could have more books so we knew everything that went on
I can't believe Dumbledore is gay. I never thought about him in that way before. Considering he only spent a few weeks with Grindlewald it must have been love at first sight.
I'm still amazed at Snape being in love with Lily. He was a tragic hero all along. Shame he had to die.
Finally finished it this morning. I'm not big on reading, so I'm surprised I've managed 200 pages odd today. Loved it, definitely the best in the series. I was glad the epilogue was there as I was so sure Voldemort was going to come back after they put his body away from everyone else's.
Ron telling Rosie to beat Draco's son in everything was quite amusing, and Harry with Albus Severus telling him that what house he went into would be his choice was really cute.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
02-12-2007, 15:14
* We will finally learn the full reason why some people become ghosts when they die and others don't
I haven't read the book and really don't want to, I might do so during Christmas or something but I was hoping if anyone could tell me what this is..
Thanks x
* We will finally learn the full reason why some people become ghosts when they die and others don't
I haven't read the book and really don't want to, I might do so during Christmas or something but I was hoping if anyone could tell me what this is..
Thanks x
I want to that answer as well, I must of missed it
Because some people fear death and try to defend themselves, and some accept that they have to die (as Harry did when he found that there was a part of Voldemort inside him, so Voldemort couldn't die because of this,) and do not try to defend themselves, as Harry didn't when he went into the forest to meet Voldemort.) I think this is why, anyway.
http://www.mugglenet.com/
On the home page there is a podcast with JK where she talks about Horcri (pl. horcrux), how to make them, who made the first one etc.
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