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Could be. Johnny did say he'd hold Jake responsible if Danny messed up. :crying:
Also Jake said he would take responsibility for Danny, so he could tell Johnny that he has to be dealt the punishment i.e the beating. :crying:
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yeah cause Jake is alot smater than Danny
Danny is the wild one and Jakey the bright one, the one who takes and accepts responsibility :crying:
squarelady
25-06-2005, 10:39
Jake's not necessarily smarter. He's just older. He's had to take responsibility and look after Danny because Danny was treated really badly by their dad.
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 10:39
Also Jake said he would take responsibility for Danny, so he could tell Johnny that he has to be dealt the punishment i.e the beating. :crying:
(Still love the banner :love: )
That could be why they're still alive. Johnny might be angry enough to kill Danny, but I don't think he'd kill Jake.
Danny would have to watch if that happened. :crying:
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 10:41
Jake's not necessarily smarter. He's just older. He's had to take responsibility and look after Danny because Danny was treated really badly by their dad.
I think Jake probably had to grow up quite fast in order to look after himself and Danny.
squarelady
25-06-2005, 10:45
I think Jake probably had to grow up quite fast in order to look after himself and Danny.
Well they were very young when there was dad was rolling in night after night very drunk. I remember Jake having a conversation with Alfie talking about parents and Jake said that Alfie was 25 when his mum and dad died but Jake as so young trying to look out for Danny that's he's become his father figure.
That could be why they're still alive. Johnny might be angry enough to kill Danny, but I don't think he'd kill Jake.
Danny would have to watch if that happened. :crying:
Exactly and that would be his punishment to watch his brother being beaten to within an inch of his life. :crying: Danny would then have to look after Jake for a change:) Johnny and Jake would then be even, Jake can return to the square without fearing for his life...
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 10:58
Well they were very young when there was dad was rolling in night after night very drunk. I remember Jake having a conversation with Alfie talking about parents and Jake said that Alfie was 25 when his mum and dad died but Jake as so young trying to look out for Danny that's he's become his father figure.
Yep. I want to know where their mother was, from what we've heard it was just Dad, Jake and Danny.
From what we've heard though Alfie's side of the family is pretty decent, and Alfie obviously knew something was going on. It's hard to believe they'd stand by and let it carry on for a long time. The BBC site says: Childhood in broken homes, so maybe they also spent time in foster care, or being passed onto different relatives.
squarelady
25-06-2005, 10:59
Probably, Jake said he used to love going to Alfie's because Alfie had everything so I don't think their childhood was brilliant. I think that's why they've ended up how they have. Well Danny, and I think that's obviously why Jake tolerates him.
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 11:11
Exactly and that would be his punishment to watch his brother being beaten to within an inch of his life. :crying: Danny would then have to look after Jake for a change:) Johnny and Jake would then be even, Jake can return to the square without fearing for his life...
:crying: That would be so sad. I have this scene in my head now, with that happening, and Johnny walking away, and Jake just lying there. And then Danny really quietly, "Jake?"
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 11:13
Probably, Jake said he used to love going to Alfie's because Alfie had everything so I don't think their childhood was brilliant. I think that's why they've ended up how they have. Well Danny, and I think that's obviously why Jake tolerates him.
Yeah, I think that explains a lot. It explains why they're so dependent on each other (I think Jake needs Danny as much as Danny needs Jake). A kind of 'us against them' mentality.
squarelady
25-06-2005, 11:33
Yeah, I think that explains a lot. It explains why they're so dependent on each other (I think Jake needs Danny as much as Danny needs Jake). A kind of 'us against them' mentality.
Def. sometimes I think Jake puts on the hard man brave front but you could see when Danny went to leave after he punched Jake. The look of Jake's face said it all. He looks so vunerable.
di marco
25-06-2005, 11:37
:crying: That would be so sad. I have this scene in my head now, with that happening, and Johnny walking away, and Jake just lying there. And then Danny really quietly, "Jake?"
that made me really sad now :( id def be crying if that happened
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 11:53
that made me really sad now :( id def be crying if that happened
I keep depressing myself, lol, with all these scenarios that might not even happen.
di marco
25-06-2005, 12:09
I keep depressing myself, lol, with all these scenarios that might not even happen.
youre making me all sad too! love the banna btw the fire effects really cool! :)
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 12:17
youre making me all sad too! love the banna btw the fire effects really cool! :)
Jake getting beaten up was Babe14's idea first. Totally not my fault. :angel: :lol:
Thanks, :) I'm quite fond of this banner. I might actually keep it for longer than a few days. Of course, I might make another one and continue on changing my mind, lol.
di marco
25-06-2005, 12:18
Jake getting beaten up was Babe14's idea first. Totally not my fault. :angel: :lol:
yeh it wasnt totally your fault but your suggestion put the picture in my head
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 12:22
yeh it wasnt totally your fault but your suggestion put the picture in my head
Well, I'm still pleading innocent. :lol:
Wonder what Danny would do if that happened. I mean, would they go to a hospital, or would Danny try to look after Jake, or would Jake try getting up and pretend it wasn't as bad as it was.
di marco
25-06-2005, 12:24
Well, I'm still pleading innocent. :lol:
Wonder what Danny would do if that happened. I mean, would they go to a hospital, or would Danny try to look after Jake, or would Jake try getting up and pretend it wasn't as bad as it was.
i think jake would probably pretend it wasnt as bad as it was but that danny would try and look after him anyway, i dont think theyd go to hospital though
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 12:28
i think jake would probably pretend it wasnt as bad as it was but that danny would try and look after him anyway, i dont think theyd go to hospital though
New scene in my head:
Jake and Danny stumbling through the forest or wherever. Danny trying to help Jake, but Jake won't let him. They finally get somewhere safe (like say if they had a car which I know they don't but just go with it) and then Jake just collapses out of sheer exhaustion.
Hm...I don't like it. Something's missing. (Apart from their imaginary car) :p :lol:
:crying: That would be so sad. I have this scene in my head now, with that happening, and Johnny walking away, and Jake just lying there. And then Danny really quietly, "Jake?"
I think we have a psychic thing going on between us, because so do I.
Jake laying face down on the ground bleeding..Danny then taking him in his arms, holding him like a baby...crying..sobbing.."Jake..Jake. I'm sorry so sorry..what have I done...what have I done" and then us being left in suspenders until Jake returns...
di marco
25-06-2005, 13:16
I think we have a psychic thing going on between us, because so do I.
Jake laying face down on the ground bleeding..Danny then taking him in his arms, holding him like a baby...crying..sobbing.."Jake..Jake. I'm sorry so sorry..what have I done...what have I done" and then us being left in suspenders until Jake returns...
youre making me all sad again! :(
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 13:18
I think we have a psychic thing going on between us, because so do I.
Jake laying face down on the ground bleeding..Danny then taking him in his arms, holding him like a baby...crying..sobbing.."Jake..Jake. I'm sorry so sorry..what have I done...what have I done" and then us being left in suspenders until Jake returns...
Great minds, eh. ;)
I would completely bawling my eyes out if we had a scene like that. :crying: :crying:
squarelady
25-06-2005, 13:18
You people have got to stop thinking like this! It's heartbreaking!
Well, I'm still pleading innocent. :lol:
Wonder what Danny would do if that happened. I mean, would they go to a hospital, or would Danny try to look after Jake, or would Jake try getting up and pretend it wasn't as bad as it was.
That's right blame me LOL! Sorry but it's the writer in me I love grit and drama...plus I think it would make good viewing:)
Danny wouldn't be able to take Jake to a hospital because he would have to explain what happened. Danny would have to look after Jake..I don't think Jake would be able to get up..:)
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 13:20
You people have got to stop thinking like this! It's heartbreaking!
Can't help it, lol. Nothing like a sunny Saturday afternoon to think thoughts like these. :crying:
youre making me all sad again! :(
Sorry..but he'll be alright, return to Walford and into the arms of the woman he loves and tells her what happened that night and why for the first time in his life he has abandoned his brother:)
Can't help it, lol. Nothing like a sunny Saturday afternoon to think thoughts like these. :crying:
See we can run rings round those Easties writers:) Bet they can't have so many people in tears in one afternoon..well injust a few mins LOL!
New scene in my head:
Jake and Danny stumbling through the forest or wherever. Danny trying to help Jake, but Jake won't let him. They finally get somewhere safe (like say if they had a car which I know they don't but just go with it) and then Jake just collapses out of sheer exhaustion.
Hm...I don't like it. Something's missing. (Apart from their imaginary
car) :p :lol:
LOL! or collapses from his injuries :p :crying: :crying:
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 13:25
That's right blame me LOL! Sorry but it's the writer in me I love grit and drama...plus I think it would make good viewing:)
Danny wouldn't be able to take Jake to a hospital because he would have to explain what happened. Danny would have to look after Jake..I don't think Jake would be able to get up..:)
But how would Danny be able to look after Jake by himself? They'd have nowhere to go, and Jake would be out of it. :crying:
Maybe we should do a count of exactly how many :crying: icons there are in this thread, lol.
But how would Danny be able to look after Jake by himself? They'd have nowhere to go, and Jake would be out of it. :crying:
Maybe we should do a count of exactly how many :crying: icons there are in this thread, lol.
LOL!
He would have to find a squat or a place where they don't ask questions or just break in somewhere.. :crying: (my new icon for the next two weeks and prob until Jakey returns) :crying: :crying:
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 13:37
LOL!
He would have to find a squat or a place where they don't ask questions or just break in somewhere.. :crying: (my new icon for the next two weeks and prob until Jakey returns) :crying: :crying:
Can you imagine Danny coming back to a little squat, and expecting Jake to be where he left him, and then he's not. And Danny completely panicking, and shouting. And then it turns out Jake's like...in the bathroom, but just that panic when Danny can't find Jake.
Can you imagine Danny coming back to a little squat, and expecting Jake to be where he left him, and then he's not. And Danny completely panicking, and shouting. And then it turns out Jake's like...in the bathroom, but just that panic when Danny can't find Jake.
LOLyes and then giving a huge sigh of relief as he sees Jakey up and about again, although a bit unsteady on his feet... (I think we have just written a great storyline between us) 50/50 split :lol: :lol: oh wait your denying all knowledge of this idea though aren't you. :p :p :p so it's 100% for me then :rotfl: :rotfl:
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 13:50
LOLyes and then giving a huge sigh of relief as he sees Jakey up and about again, although a bit unsteady on his feet... (I think we have just written a great storyline between us) 50/50 split :lol: :lol: oh wait your denying all knowledge of this idea though aren't you. :p :p so it's 100% for me then :rotfl: :rotfl:
I'm not denying all knowledge, lol. I'm just saying you started it, and then dragged me in. :p :rotfl:
Maybe we should write a script on it, cos you know the Easties writers wouldn't do it justice.
I'm not denying all knowledge, lol. I'm just saying you started it, and then dragged me in. :p :rotfl:
Maybe we should write a script on it, cos you know the Easties writers wouldn't do it justice.
Alright then you can have 40% LOL! :p
No their ending won't be no where as good as ours..prob just see J&D sat in the forest in the back of the car with Johnny looking at them..
You and I seem to just bounce off one another with the ideas one starts the other is off and we seem to think alike. :lol:
I think the writers should let you and I do all the J&D stuff or just jakey stuff as the case is going to be :lol:
As the forest will prob be Danny'slast scene, I think there should be a J&D special which picks up from the forest and shows how they part, written of course by you and me. You got Jake maskells phone no? LOL!
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:01
Danny would be totally mothering while Jake was getting better. Jake would probably get annoyed with it, and then Danny would say that it was his fault it happened so the least he can do is look after Jake, and that would lead to Danny telling Jake to go back to Walford.
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:03
As the forest will prob be Danny'slast scene, I think there should be a J&D special which picks up from the forest and shows how they part, written of course by you and me. You got Jake maskells phone no? LOL!
Yeah! (To the idea, not to having his phone number unfortunatly) There'd have to be a warning before hand though: Warning. Thoroughly depressing. You will cry.
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:06
Alright then you can have 40% LOL! :p
No their ending won't be no where as good as ours..prob just see J&D sat in the forest in the back of the car with Johnny looking at them..
You and I seem to just bounce off one another with the ideas one starts the other is off and we seem to think alike. :lol:
I think the writers should let you and I do all the J&D stuff or just jakey stuff as the case is going to be :lol:
40% Pah...45% :p :rotfl:
If we did write all Jake's stuff we'd probably get Joel Beckett in our office:
Us: Is there a problem.
Him: Yes. I've been beaten within an inch of my life, had my parents turning up and reminded me of childhood, found out my girlfriend murdered her husband, had Dennis find out I was there when Andy died, and that's just in 3 weeks.
Us:...Your point?
Yeah! (To the idea, not to having his phone number unfortunatly) There'd have to be a warning before hand though: Warning. Thoroughly depressing. You will cry.
LOL! Especially when we describe Danny's reactions and behaviour, his depression and on the verge of a breakdown. I was thinking this could be another way Danny not returning to the square could be explained, he had a breakdwon and had to go into a home :crying: :crying: (Like the Sue/Ali storyline) Sue Osman had a total breakdown after loosing a baby and had to go into a home..some of those scens were sad..
di marco
25-06-2005, 14:09
There'd have to be a warning before hand though: Warning. Thoroughly depressing. You will cry.
lol!
di marco
25-06-2005, 14:09
Us: Is there a problem.
Him: Yes. I've been beaten within an inch of my life, had my parents turning up and reminded me of childhood, found out my girlfriend murdered her husband, had Dennis find out I was there when Andy died, and that's just in 3 weeks.
Us:...Your point?
hehe lol! :D
40% Pah...45% :p :rotfl:
If we did write all Jake's stuff we'd probably get Joel Beckett in our office:
Us: Is there a problem.
Him: Yes. I've been beaten within an inch of my life, had my parents turning up and reminded me of childhood, found out my girlfriend murdered her husband, had Dennis find out I was there when Andy died, and that's just in 3 weeks.
Us:...Your point?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
then an ex-girlfirend turns up and I have to wear a hankie!!
Alright 50/50 :p :p :lol:
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:12
LOL! Especially when we describe Danny's reactions and behaviour, his depression and on the verge of a breakdown. I was thinking this could be another way Danny not returning to the square could be explained, he had a breakdwon and had to go into a home :crying: :crying: (Like the Sue/Ali storyline) Sue Osman had a total breakdown after loosing a baby and had to go into a home..some of those scens were sad..
I don't think Jake would let Danny go into a home though. He'd see it as nothing split them up during their childhood, and nothing is spliting them up now. Maybe someone else (like Chrissie maybe) would have to convince Jake that he can't look after Danny by himself.
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:12
Alright 50/50 :p :p :lol:
Yay! :cheer:
Danny would be totally mothering while Jake was getting better. Jake would probably get annoyed with it, and then Danny would say that it was his fault it happened so the least he can do is look after Jake, and that would lead to Danny telling Jake to go back to Walford.
LOL you can just imagine it
Jake: Danny leave it out
Because finally Danny realise that he is messing up Jake's life and until he can get his head sorted he has to go his won way..
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:14
:rotfl: :rotfl:
then an ex-girlfirend turns up and I have to wear a hankie!!
Us: Actually it's a perfectly legitimate towel. It just looks like a hankie. *nod*
Him:...Really?
Us: ...If we said yes, would you agree to wear it?
:rotfl:
Us: Actually it's a perfectly legitimate towel. It just looks like a hankie. *nod*
Him:...Really?
Us: ...If we said yes, would you agree to wear it?
:rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
When I mentioned about Danny going into a home I meant because he had to have special care and medication, it wouldn't be possible for Jake to look after him:)
I like our idea of the beating and going on the run better:)
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:22
LOL you can just imagine it
Jake: Danny leave it out
Because finally Danny realise that he is messing up Jake's life and until he can get his head sorted he has to go his won way..
And we could a little call-back to the "Danny...don't go," scene, when Danny leaves and tells Jake to go back. Cos Jake's wee vulnerable face in that scene is just :crying: ( <-- oo, look there it is again. Appears so much I think we should name it, lol.)
And we could a little call-back to the "Danny...don't go," scene, when Danny leaves and tells Jake to go back. Cos Jake's wee vulnerable face in that scene is just :crying: ( <-- oo, look there it is again. Appears so much I think we should name it, lol.)
and in Scarlets when he was clearing up the broken glass after a row with Danny and told him he's on his own..on the bridge..
We'll have to think of some names for all his little faces, I think the one he has for Chrissie when he eyes her and does a slght phawwr with his lips/cheeks should be called "Horny" have to have a little think...
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:34
Okies, just to angst things up a little (cos heaven knows this thread isn't already depressing enough.)...if Jake was beaten to within an inch of his life, wouldn't there be a possibility of internal bleeding. Or some internal injury. However, my medical training consists of zilch, zip, nada, so I can't say for sure...
Okies, just to angst things up a little (cos heaven knows this thread isn't already depressing enough.)...if Jake was beaten to within an inch of his life, wouldn't there be a possibility of internal bleeding. Or some internal injury. However, my medical training consists of zilch, zip, nada, so I can't say for sure...
Yes there is that risk but sometimes people are lucky and end up with severe bruising or a few cracked ribs..(Zilch med knowledge, Just going by TV research!!)
Maybe we should say until he was unconscious but Danny thinks that he is dead at first..
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 14:42
Maybe we should say until he was unconscious but Danny thinks that he is dead at first..
Can you imagine that cliffhanger? Danny struggling to find a pulse, just going "Jake, Jake, Jake," over and over and over, a slow pan out of the forest, and then the credits.
I think it would be powerful if we didn't actually see the beating as well. Have Jake saying that Danny is his resposnibility, Johnny agreeing. Then cut to another scene (maybe Chrissie trying to phone Jake on his mobile. Although knowing Easties it would be a boring Molfie scene). And then go back to the forest with Jake face down bleeding.
Can you imagine that cliffhanger? Danny struggling to find a pulse, just going "Jake, Jake, Jake," over and over and over, a slow pan out of the forest, and then the credits.
I think it would be powerful if we didn't actually see the beating as well. Have Jake saying that Danny is his resposnibility, Johnny agreeing. Then cut to another scene (maybe Chrissie trying to phone Jake on his mobile. Although knowing Easties it would be a boring Molfie scene). And then go back to the forest with Jake face down bleeding.
No way would Easties show the beating. I think they could show either Danny being held by one of Johnny's goons and Jake and Johnny face to face cut...or Jake being held by one of Johnny's goons then cut...next scene Jake face down and Danny scrambling around on the ground going Jake..jake..then picking Jake in his uncounscious state up in his arms saying jake ...jake etc as mentioned bfore..then dum..dum...until Jake returns...
Yes we have the pefect cliffhanger be interesting to see if Easties come up with the same...
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 19:23
No way would Easties show the beating. I think they could show either Danny being held by one of Johnny's goons and Jake and Johnny face to face cut...or Jake being held by one of Johnny's goons then cut...next scene Jake face down and Danny scrambling around on the ground going Jake..jake..then picking Jake in his uncounscious state up in his arms saying jake ...jake etc as mentioned bfore..then dum..dum...until Jake returns...
Yes we have the pefect cliffhanger be interesting to see if Easties come up with the same...
They'd have to have the special eppy though, so we could see Danny taking care of Jake.
It would be so good if they did this. Jake saying it's his responsibility, and Danny trying to stop him and Johnny's goons holding him back, and then just having to watch. :crying:
They'd have to have the special eppy though, so we could see Danny taking care of Jake.
It would be so good if they did this. Jake saying it's his responsibility, and Danny trying to stop him and Johnny's goons holding him back, and then just having to watch. :crying:
it would be good to have a spin off or two but really at the end of the day it would take the edge off a posssible Danny return in Enders...but there again...
Neither Bros would let the other take a beating or otherwise unwillingly..unfortunately I don't think Easties will go this gritty which is a shame... love Jake as you all know...but it would make very good and emotional viewing...and would provide the perfect opening for Jake to return as there would be nothing for Jake to face upon his return and the two would be sworn enemies and stay out of each others way...
They'd have to have the special eppy though, so we could see Danny taking care of Jake.
It would be so good if they did this. Jake saying it's his responsibility, and Danny trying to stop him and Johnny's goons holding him back, and then just having to watch. :crying:
It would be good to see Danny taking care of Jake, roughing it, living on the streets (I know this has sort of been done before but I enjoy the Street life storylines) but then this would have to have a dramatic ending for Jake to reutrn with a good storyline...
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 19:41
it would be good to have a spin off or two but really at the end of the day it would take the edge off a posssible Danny return in Enders...but there again...
Neither Bros would let the other take a beating or otherwise unwillingly..unfortunately I don't think Easties will go this gritty which is a shame... love Jake as you all know...but it would make very good and emotional viewing...and would provide the perfect opening for Jake to return as there would be nothing for Jake to face upon his return and the two would be sworn enemies and stay out of each others way...
It would make very emotional viewing. Especially Danny at the end :crying:
I don't think Easties will go this gritty either, especially as they're wanting to cut back the gangster stuff.
Don't think Chrissie would be too happy though if she knew Jake got hurt. I don't think Jake would tell her though, he might see it as private.
It would make very emotional viewing. Especially Danny at the end :crying:
I don't think Easties will go this gritty either, especially as they're wanting to cut back the gangster stuff.
Don't think Chrissie would be too happy though if she knew Jake got hurt. I don't think Jake would tell her though, he might see it as private.
Yeah machoo stuff, but there again I don't know really . If they are going to have a no secerets relationship...
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 19:49
Yeah machoo stuff, but there again I don't know really . If they are going to have a no secerets relationship...
He could not tell her, and then they started to get...intimate with each other, lol, and she notices he's still got bruising on his ribs or something. Then she could go from worried about him, to angry he didn't tell her, all the way through to wanting to bash Johnny over the head lol.
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 19:51
It would be good to see Danny taking care of Jake, roughing it, living on the streets (I know this has sort of been done before but I enjoy the Street life storylines) but then this would have to have a dramatic ending for Jake to reutrn with a good storyline...
I wonder if Danny and Jake have lived on the streets before. I could easily buy that they had :searchme:
Aw, Jake and Danny in their wee bedsit, with Jake beaten up and Danny feeling helpless and guilty. :crying:
I wonder if Danny and Jake have lived on the streets before. I could easily buy that they had :searchme:
Aw, Jake and Danny in their wee bedsit, with Jake beaten up and Danny feeling helpless and guilty. :crying:
Yep I have that all written and visualised in my head with a twist or two..
I'm guessng that both J & D went from one broken home to another then ended up on the streets (re All sorts they used to hang out with)..Danny was always beaten and bullied by his dad..Jake had to watch...then one day Jake decided enough was enough..prob turned on the father...left home or wasp ut into homes...then decided one day it was time to try thei r luck on their own...
It would be ironic if Easties was to do our ending Danny having to watch Jake being beaten whereas in the past it was always Jake who had to watch...
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 20:02
Yep I have that all written and visualised in my head with a twist or two..
I'm guessng that both J & D went from one broken home to another then ended up on the streets (re All sorts they used to hang out with)..Danny was always beaten and bullied by his dad..Jake had to watch...then one day Jake decided enough was enough..prob turned on the father...left home or wasp ut into homes...then decided one day it was time to try thei r luck on their own...
It would be ironic if Easties was to do our ending Danny having to watch Jake being beaten whereas in the past it was always Jake who had to watch...
I might start writing the scenes I've got in my head out onto paper or something soon. Don't want to lose them. We should combine all our great ideas and sent them to Easties: "This is how you should do it. Have a complementary hankie." :rotfl:
Maybe they were split up when they went to foster homes. Or they decided to run away because they though that was better than being split up. (Still wants to know where the mother was).
I think Danny having to watch would be a wake up call for him that he can't carry on doing things and expecting Jake to bail him out.
I think Danny having to watch would be a wake up call for him that he can't carry on doing things and expecting Jake to bail him out.
It would be the perfect ending for him. Make him realise what a danger he was to Jake. Knowing that the time has come to stand on his own two feet and set Jake free..
Yes where was the mother. Did she walk out on her drunken husband, abandonded her children? Has the mother and father now had a recon? Changed man/ did she not want the boys?
Yep we are flowing girl!!! All I will say is that I have plans...:)
BlackKat
25-06-2005, 20:13
I'd like to see a storyline where the mother turned up, and it turned out she abandoned the boys when they were quite young. As it would be after Danny's exit, obviously only Jake would be there which is a shame, but I could see him being resentful, and her being quite a selfish person who is baffled as to why he's not welcoming her with open arms.
Yep we are flowing girl!!! All I will say is that I have plans...
I'm starting to think we share a brain, lol.
I'd like to see a storyline where the mother turned up, and it turned out she abandoned the boys when they were quite young. As it would be after Danny's exit, obviously only Jake would be there which is a shame, but I could see him being resentful, and her being quite a selfish person who is baffled as to why he's not welcoming her with open arms.
I'm starting to think we share a brain, lol.
I'd like both parents to turn up having got back together. This would be a very emotional and powerful storyline for Jake. He can't understand why they have got back together/how...how can the father be a changed man, Jake only remembers him coming home off his face and starting on Danny...etc
LOL! (Re Brain) Maybe we're twins separated at birth :rotfl:
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 09:07
I'd like both parents to turn up having got back together. This would be a very emotional and powerful storyline for Jake. He can't understand why they have got back together/how...how can the father be a changed man, Jake only remembers him coming home off his face and starting on Danny...etc
LOL! (Re Brain) Maybe we're twins separated at birth :rotfl:
Yeah, that would be good. There'd also be a bit of suspense of whether the father really is a changed man, or whether he'll start drinking again.
We're Mind Twins, hee. :rotfl:
Yeah, that would be good. There'd also be a bit of suspense of whether the father really is a changed man, or whether he'll start drinking again.
We're Mind Twins, hee. :rotfl:
:rotfl:
maybe he will after a bust up with Jakey and he gets told a few home truths or Jakey gives him a taste of what the father used to give Danny..
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 09:37
What do you think the mother would be like. She can't be very good otherwise Jake wouldn't have had to raise Danny all by himself. Would she drink as well, or just be neglectful in other ways, d'ya think.
Last night by the way, I wrote out a scene of Jakey gettting beat up in the forest as a fic. *possibly becoming obsessed with scenario*
Maybe the mother walked out leaving the boys with the father or maybe she slept around, the father found out and kicked her out...
Well done. (Look forward to reading it)
I was dreaming about it in my sleep and writing the scene and aftermath in my head...(see twin brains) and you will never ever believe this but I was also thinking trainers last night LOL!
Don't forget your depression warning!!!
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 09:49
You know what would be really creepy. If you were dreaming about it at the exact same time that I was writing about it, :rotfl:
You know what would be really creepy. If you were dreaming about it at the exact same time that I was writing about it, :rotfl:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: They say everyone has a copy of themselves out there...awwww two Jakey's/Joel's
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 09:57
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: They say everyone has a copy of themselves out there...awwww two Jakey's/Joel's
Aww :cheer:
It's only a paragraph or so. I got stuck when I realised I didn't actually know how Danny was going to get Jake out of the forest. And when exactly Jake wakes up. In the forest, or in the scummy squat? (I have this urge to put scummy squat in capital letters as like it's official name, lol.)
Aww :cheer:
It's only a paragraph or so. I got stuck when I realised I didn't actually know how Danny was going to get Jake out of the forest. And when exactly Jake wakes up. In the forest, or in the scummy squat? (I have this urge to put scummy squat in capital letters as like it's official name, lol.)
LOL!
I have it all written in my head, right up to Jake's return and what happens when Chrissie sees him again etc..so if you want I don't mind helping you.
I'll be typing it all up in outline form on my pc today anyway. So it won't be a prob. I think this week I'll be writing up some of these outlines into script form as I'm really in writing mode at the mo. :) (you've motivated me even more - thanks) :rotfl:
P.S. Your great to talk too:) your good fun:)
I've chnged squat to scummy caravan:) LOL
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 10:29
The help would be great. 50/50 after all, :wub: What I've got so far is mostly description based.
Oo...a caravan would be good. It could basically be anywhere, so they wouldn't have to go far. Plus, it would be such a good scene of Danny trying to get Jake somewhere safe, and they're not even out of the forest yet, and Jake can't go any further, and then just that avalanche of relief for Danny when he sees some scummy caravan you wouldn't leave a dog in lol.
You're great to talk to as well. :thumbsup:
A caravan is something which could easily be found in a forest or field or there might be a nearby camp somewhere, closed for the season or only partially used.
Jake took a bad beating but only bad enough to render him unconscious for a few mins, but Danny panicked during this time and thought for a min Jake was dead..Jake becomes semi conscious and tries to get to his feet..Danny is only partially with it, he's shocked, stressed out and lost the plot a bit but he's still with it enough to help Jake..... (See how you go with that) (more if you want it)
All my stuff is in outline form and in no order whatsoever,I type or write things down as I think of them and sort it all out later.
I do the same when I'm building characters.
eastenders mad
26-06-2005, 10:51
sounds a good storyline
sounds a good storyline
Thank you:) and that's from my partner too (Kat) LOL :)
eastenders mad
26-06-2005, 10:55
lol
The help would be great. 50/50 after all, :wub: What I've got so far is mostly description based.
Oo...a caravan would be good. It could basically be anywhere, so they wouldn't have to go far. Plus, it would be such a good scene of Danny trying to get Jake somewhere safe, and they're not even out of the forest yet, and Jake can't go any further, and then just that avalanche of relief for Danny when he sees some scummy caravan you wouldn't leave a dog in lol.
You're great to talk to as well. :thumbsup:
That's a good idea too, so there you go take your pick
:lol:
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 10:58
A caravan is something which could easily be found in a forest or field or there might be a nearby camp somewhere, closed for the season or only partially used.
Jake took a bad beating but only bad enough to render him unconscious for a few mins, but Danny panicked during this time and thought for a min Jake was dead..Jake becomes semi conscious and tries to get to his feet..Danny is only partially with it, he's shocked, stressed out and lost the plot a bit but he's still with it enough to help Jake..... (See how you go with that) (more if you want it)
All my stuff is in outline form and in no order whatsoever,I type or write things down as I think of them and sort it all out later.
I do the same when I'm building characters.
This is great. :cheer: Okay, I've written up to where Jake's coming round (he just vomited, which can't be good.) Shame we can't PM cos then I could show you what I've got so far.
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 10:59
That's a good idea too, so there you go take your pick
:lol:
I'm going to combine the two. So Jake's semi-conscious, and on the brink of collapse when they see the abandoned caravan park. :)
Danny will need bandages and plasters...food..water etc
I'm going to combine the two. So Jake's semi-conscious, and on the brink of collapse when they see the abandoned caravan park. :)
That sounds good. Yeah poor Jake won't be in a very good state, he won't really know what's happening...
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 11:09
Okay, where's Jake been hit. I'm guessing head wound, but what about chest area, cos then there might be problems with the breathing (not life threatening, but).
Okay, where's Jake been hit. I'm guessing head wound, but what about chest area, cos then there might be problems with the breathing (not life threatening, but).
Lip, eye, ribs, stomach badly bruised face etc (sorry not sure how descriptive I can be on here. already edited it twice) :) yes head and breathing is good idea..
How about Danny badly twisitng his ankle whilst helping Jake....
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 11:26
This is good. :) Do you want me to post what I've got so far here, or should we open a new thread?
This is good. :) Do you want me to post what I've got so far here, or should we open a new thread?
LOL We're at it again I've been sitting here thinking that it might be an idea to open a thread in the script section or somewhere where we can build our script...
(I'm going off line for a bit now, I'll pop back for a flying visit later)
Just thought Johnny might not even be in the car or in the forest. I read that he is brought out of his house by firemen. Perhaps Danny is sat in the front of Johnny's car when Jake returns to the canal and sees him. So maybe Jake climbs in shoves his bro over to the passenger seat and they drive off to the forest, Jake doing one of his eratic drives again, the boys argue..car goes out of control and ends up wrapped round a tree..the boys are in the car unconscious and injured..Jake slumped over the steering wheel..Danny with his head back injured...
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 13:00
LOL We're at it again I've been sitting here thinking that it might be an idea to open a thread in the script section or somewhere where we can build our script...
(I'm going off line for a bit now, I'll pop back for a flying visit later)
I don't think it would go in the Script section, cos we're still trying to figure out all the details, so people might get confused. :searchme:
I'm thinking maybe Jake has a slight concussion. Danny twisting his ankle is a good idea.
I don't think it would go in the Script section, cos we're still trying to figure out all the details, so people might get confused. :searchme:
I'm thinking maybe Jake has a slight concussion. Danny twisting his ankle is a good idea.
I'll leave it for you to decide where you want to start a new thread:)
Nice one, Jake concussed. Thinking about it he's bound to be after being beaten.:)
I'm starting on Alfie now LOL..I've done a second version of the forest and taken it all the way back to the square..Alfie and Johnny have just had their confrontation. (You'll see I'll start on Dennis soon and then Pauline LOL!)
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 13:20
Ooo tell me more.
I've actually got a bit stuck. Jake's coming around, but I'm not sure how...mobile he is. Like, can he walk, or his he sort of stumbling...I mean really what the poor boy needs is a doctor, but they can't because they'd have to explain... :crying:
eastenders mad
26-06-2005, 14:47
sounds good
the daily star sunday:
as chrissie and jake are about to have their first romp they here commotion in the square as jonny's house is ablaze... so jake didnt start it after all
bondboffin
squarelady
26-06-2005, 18:47
Todays News Of The World - Johnny caught in the blaze. This will only work if you can view PNG's on your computer. Click on it to enlarge! *shakes head* What has Danny done?
http://x2.putfile.com/6/17609203937-thumb.png (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17609203937.png&s=x2)
melanielovesdennisrickman
26-06-2005, 18:54
Hiya!!!!!
I Feel Quite Sorry For Johnny Allen Actually!!!!!
I Mean He Steals A Salsa Thingy Idea Of Danny Moon,And Danny Moon Decides To Burn His House Down,And Nearly Kill Him!!!!!!
It Will Be A Great Dramatic Storyline Though,I Absolutely Can Not Wait LOL!!!!!
Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:
squarelady
26-06-2005, 18:55
Arrr, but it's not just to do with the Salsa night. It's about Danny's dad too.
I'd agree if it was just about dancing then Danny would be a little out of order! :lol:
Arrr, but it's not just to do with the Salsa night. It's about Danny's dad too.
I'd agree if it was just about dancing then Danny would be a little out of order! :lol:
Dannys dad??
squarelady
26-06-2005, 19:15
Danny's dad?
Yer, Danny's dad was very abusive because he was an alcoholic. He used to do the same to Danny as Johnny does now. Always putting him down, saying he's rubbish and can't do anything right and all the anger Danny has pent up for his dad ends up transferring to Johnny. Just because Johnny 'big boy' Allen has to be above everyone. He's always singled Jake out as being favorite and the 'better brother' and it's left Danny feeling worthless.
di marco
26-06-2005, 19:41
thanks for the pic :)
Yer, Danny's dad was very abusive because he was an alcoholic. He used to do the same to Danny as Johnny does now. Always putting him down, saying he's rubbish and can't do anything right and all the anger Danny has pent up for his dad ends up transferring to Johnny. Just because Johnny 'big boy' Allen has to be above everyone. He's always singled Jake out as being favorite and the 'better brother' and it's left Danny feeling worthless.
that makes it clearer to understand now why danny is so annoyed with johnny
squarelady
26-06-2005, 19:49
thanks for the pic :)
that makes it clearer to understand now why danny is so annoyed with johnny
Thanks to Jake Maskell for that explanation not myself! :lol:
Thanks for the pic Lexie!!!! Your a star i haven't seen any 'fire' pics yet, well until that and thanks to 'Jake Maskall' then for the explaniation! LOL!
Layne
x x x
squarelady
26-06-2005, 20:05
Wait until Tuesday...the magazines are going to be fab this week!
thanks for the pic :)
that makes it clearer to understand now why danny is so annoyed with johnny
Yea it does make it clearer, still dont think it right to burn his house down, they are alot of other things he could have done, but then he is desperate and people to strange things in desperate situation?? ie Chrissie.
squarelady
26-06-2005, 20:15
True, he's always had a temper.
kayleigh6654
26-06-2005, 21:32
Theres a 2 page interview with Jake Maskell in Soaplife next week. the pic is awful though, its Danny all crying and :( and he looks so sweet, I just wanna hug him!
BlackKat
26-06-2005, 21:38
Theres a 2 page interview with Jake Maskell in Soaplife next week. the pic is awful though, its Danny all crying and :( and he looks so sweet, I just wanna hug him!
I can already tell I'm going to cry at this storyline, lol.
Is there much on Jake's part in the storyline or is it mostly Danny?
squarelady
26-06-2005, 22:31
http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/4;0;116/st/20050708/e/Jake+and+Danny+leave/dt/5/k/9056/event.png
Ooo tell me more.
I've actually got a bit stuck. Jake's coming around, but I'm not sure how...mobile he is. Like, can he walk, or his he sort of stumbling...I mean really what the poor boy needs is a doctor, but they can't because they'd have to explain... :crying:
Jake keeps drifting in and out of consciousness, so Danny has to help him and carry him through the forest...Jake is exhasuted and weak from the beating plus he is slightly concussed...(any help) :crying: :crying:
I think what really tips Danny over the edge is Jake telling him he's on his own. It will be the final straw for him ontop of everything else. :crying: :crying:
di marco
27-06-2005, 09:25
I think what really tips Danny over the edge is Jake telling him he's on his own. It will be the final straw for him ontop of everything else. :crying: :crying:
i think thats the thing that really does it for danny, he relies on jake and jake telling him that is going to make him annoyed and he feels its all johnnys fault
i think thats the thing that really does it for danny, he relies on jake and jake telling him that is going to make him annoyed and he feels its all johnnys fault
In the past we've heard Jake telling Danny a couple of times he's on his own and Danny had a look of sheer panic on his face. Plus one time Jake turned round and told Danny that one day he'll walk away and not come back and asked him what he would do then, Danny looked terrified. I think that the argument they have this time will be big and Danny will realise that Jake means it this time.. :crying:
I thought that it might be a case of Jake and Chrissie about to make love when Danny sets light to Johnny's house...(Flames of Passion..Flames of Anger)
squarelady
27-06-2005, 10:22
i think thats the thing that really does it for danny, he relies on jake and jake telling him that is going to make him annoyed and he feels its all johnnys fault
I think there is alot about Danny's past that explains his behaviour that we'll never get to know about. Not through Danny anyway.
I think there is alot about Danny's past that explains his behaviour that we'll never get to know about. Not through Danny anyway.
unless he returns
bondboffin
But we may through Jake about both their pasts
squarelady
27-06-2005, 11:34
But we may through Jake about both their pasts
Yer, that's what I'm thinking they'll do! :)
Perhaps in a heart to heart with Chrissie...
JustJodi
27-06-2005, 12:05
:crying: :crying: :crying: I can't believe they are actually letting the brothers go,,, Seems to me they are letting so many of them go,, now I can live with Whiney Zoe leaving , but things were just stoking up with Dennis and Sharon came back.
Gee whiz !!!!:wall:
squarelady
27-06-2005, 12:07
Remember Jake will be back Jodi! :D
JustJodi
27-06-2005, 12:10
Remember Jake will be back Jodi! :D:bow: thank goodness the writers see some sense bringing at least one of our favorite moon brothers :bow: thanks for setting me straight :)
squarelady
27-06-2005, 12:12
:bow: thank goodness the writers see some sense bringing at least one of our favorite moon brothers :bow: thanks for setting me straight :)
That's alright! :love:
JustJodi
27-06-2005, 12:17
That's alright! :love:
Where do all of you get your information??? I am an American living in Holland, and I have not seen anything in the magazine or news paper stands that offers any thing in English on this wonderful soap,, so are there any sites I can look into on line so I can keep up with you wonderful Brits :wub: Thanks in advance :love:
squarelady
27-06-2005, 12:55
Where do all of you get your information??? I am an American living in Holland, and I have not seen anything in the magazine or news paper stands that offers any thing in English on this wonderful soap,, so are there any sites I can look into on line so I can keep up with you wonderful Brits :wub: Thanks in advance :love:
Well there's this one. I also get my information from magazines, tv interviews, newspapers, Eastenders site, BBC press office and sometimes the actors themselves! :)
Well there's this one. I also get my information from magazines, tv interviews, newspapers, Eastenders site, BBC press office and sometimes the actors themselves! :)
the bbc press office is good for future storylines but dosent go as far as newspapers
even so its well worth a visit jodi!!! :D
bondboffiin
JustJodi
27-06-2005, 18:24
the bbc press office is good for future storylines but dosent go as far as newspapers
even so its well worth a visit jodi!!! :D
bondboffiin
Newspapers ??? U mean like tableoids :rolleyes: Ok so the BBC press office... I will have to find the site :) Coolness maybe I can catch up on this show before I take off to the states for a Month.. how much am I gonna miss in Sept and Oct :confused:
Thanks alot bondboffin for the info:)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/
Thats the link!!
JustJodi
27-06-2005, 18:41
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/
Thats the link!!
judejude thank u so much.. i got in and started reading whoa,, are we all in for a treat,, :cheer:
Thanks again :)
So it looked like last night Danny starts his own downfall. Jake got him a job and he said shifting bricks and grovelling to aforeman I don't do that..sorry I have no sympathy for him. I can understand given his childhood why he hates taking orders from people but if he wants to get on he'l have to just let go and move on as Jake has..In other words Danny listen to Jake!!
Danny is going to get on my nerves a bit but I'll prob have alump in my throat as this storyline reaches it's climax. Danny is sweet and you just want to mother him but at the same time he can be a right prat when he wants to be..if only he'd listen I mean really listen to Jake he would save himself a lot of heartache...
Angeldelight
28-06-2005, 09:37
Tis the beginning of the end...
Carrie Bradshaw
28-06-2005, 10:55
So it looked like last night Danny starts his own downfall. Mean Jake got him a job and he said shifting bricks and grovelling to aforeman I don't do that..sorry I have no sympathy for him. I can understand given his childhood why he hates taking orders from people but if he wants to get on he'l have to just let go and move on as Jake has..In other words Danny listen to Jake!!
Danny is going to get on my nerves a bit but I'll prob have alump in my throat as this storyline reaches it's climax. Danny is sweet and you just want to mother him but at the same time he can be a right prat when he wants to be..if only he'd listen I mean really listen to Jake he would save himself a lot of heartache...
Yeah, sometimes you just want to knock some sense into Danny! Its weird to think that one silly salsa night idea will lead to such chaos!
I don't know how Jake puts up with his behaviour. He always thinks about Danny and when he looks for work he always looks out for him as well. Jake has often said "we come as a pair", I think that this is a one way thing because Danny doesn't think about Jake only himself. Last night he may as well have just punched Jake in the mouth again..argh I was so cross, especially at the end of that scene when Danny went to Jake don't forget to bend your legs! If I was Jake I would of told Danny he was on his own now after turning his nose up at the work Jake had found for him.
Carrie Bradshaw
28-06-2005, 13:40
I don't know how Jake puts up with his behaviour. He always thinks about Danny and when he looks for work he always looks out for him as well. Jake has often said "we come as a pair", I think that this is a one way thing because Danny doesn't think about Jake only himself. Last night he may as well have just punched Jake in the mouth again..argh I was so cross, especially at the end of that scene when Danny went to Jake don't forget to bend your legs! If I was Jake I would of told Danny he was on his own now after turning his nose up at the work Jake had found for him.
I'm guessing that they make Danny more and more unreasonable, so that it does not seem too unrealistic that Jake comes back on his own after the Moons' exit.
Jake comes back on his own after the Moons' exit.
So is he definatly coming back?
Carrie Bradshaw
28-06-2005, 13:55
So is he definatly coming back?
Yup!! I think he has 3 weeks break, then is back after that! :cheer:
Johnny Allen
28-06-2005, 16:51
This is going to be one hell of an awesome storyline.
BlackKat
28-06-2005, 17:05
From the magazines: Jake gets there just as Johnny's putting Danny in the car, and jumps in after them. Johnny then drives them away, locks Jake in the car, gets out with Danny and puts a gun to Danny's head. Jake breaks out the car, and tells Johnny to shoot them both. In the end, he shoots neither, and on Monday Jake rings Alfie to tell him that both him and Danny are safe. :)
Some very good pics of both Jake and Danny -- heartbreaking. :crying:
melanielovesdennisrickman
28-06-2005, 17:14
From the magazines: Jake gets there just as Johnny's putting Danny in the car, and jumps in after them. Johnny then drives them away, locks Jake in the car, gets out with Danny and puts a gun to Danny's head. Jake breaks out the car, and tells Johnny to shoot them both. In the end, he shoots neither, and on Monday Jake rings Alfie to tell him that both him and Danny are safe. :)
Some very good pics of both Jake and Danny -- heartbreaking. :crying:
Hiya!!!!!
Oh My God,This Storyline Is Gonna Be Absolutely Great,I Am Going To Be Crying In Front Of The Telly!!!!!
Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:
BlackKat
28-06-2005, 17:34
Just some extracts from the magazines I got:
Inside Soap
"Danny wants to smoke Johnny out of the house so he can talk to him," says Jake Maskall, who plays Danny. "So he sets fire to it! He's not thinking straight - he's just so bitterly angry about the way Johnny has treated him."
Unemployed and feeling let down by both his brother and his former boss, Danny has hit rock bottom. His resentment towards Johnny has been growing over the weeks since his sacking, culminating in the young entrepreneur's decision to set fire to his ex-boss's house.
"In the build-up to the blaze, Danny's a loose cannon," reveals Jake. "He starts a fight in the club, he blows his relationship with Sam, and he's just generally a mess. He wants answers from Johnny for the way he's been treated, and just snaps. He doesn't intend to kill Johnny, though."
Then stuff about Johnny and Ruby.
"Danny's brother, Jake, realises that they have to leave Walford before Johnny tracks them down," says the 29-year-old actor. "So he arranges to meet Danny by the canal after he has said his goodbyes to Chrissie Watts. But unfortunately, Johnny catches up with Danny first, and bundles him into his car. Jake jumps in after him and they both know that they are being driven to their death..."
The week ends with Jake and Danny stranded in a remote forest, at the mercy of a gun-weilding Johnny. But, with the door being left open for both of them to return, can we assume that they both survive to die another day?
"The famous phrase!" laughs Jake. "Yes, the door isn't locked shut, so they do get a reprieve. You'll have to see how they get themselves out of it, though."
I'll do some more later. :)
Thanks for that:)
Have to say after last night I am having less and less sympathy for Danny and as far as I'm concerned he is bringing everything on himself. The only sympathy I have is for Jake whose life Danny is making a misery. As the storyline unfolds I think the sadness I will feel will be for Jake not Danny. Jake will be far better off without Danny, whom without, Jake will be able to have a life and happiness. Danny had no right last night calling Jake a loser..he is the loser. Also Danny isn't willing to graft for his money whereas Jake is he is a hard worker:) No sorry I am rapidly going off Danny.
I like the way they are now pairing Jake and Alfie up. I'm under the impression that they are trying to continue the commical moments through Alfie and Jake now, yes it is working but needs time to "develop" as the comedy between Danny and Jake was really good.
melanielovesdennisrickman
29-06-2005, 08:14
Hiya!!!!!
Yeah,I Also Feel Really Sorry For Jake Moon!!!!!
He Finally Gets Together With The Love Of His Life,Chrissie Watts,And Danny Moon Ofcourse Has To Go And Ruin It For Him,But Jake Also Is There For His Brother,Wich Is Really Sweet And Cute!!!!!
Jakissie Forever!!!!!Jakissie Forever!!!!!
Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:
Jake feels responsible for Danny and knows that he needs him to keep him on the straight and Narrow. I really do feel that Jake will be much happier without Danny, he'll be able to have a life whereas with Danny around he will never have total happiness. Danny's his brother whom he loves dearly and is always thinking about, but sometimes there comes a time when you just have to make them stand on their own two feet and leave them to deal with their own mistakes and learn the hard way. So I don't blame Jake for telling him he's on his own and meaning it this time..
JustJodi
29-06-2005, 09:29
Jake feels responsible for Danny and knows that he needs him to keep him on the straight and Narrow. I really do feel that Jake will be much happier without Danny, he'll be able to have a life whereas with Danny around he will never have total happiness. Danny's his brother whom he loves dearly and is always thinking about, but sometimes there comes a time when you just have to make them stand on their own two feet and leave them to deal with their own mistakes and learn the hard way. So I don't blame Jake for telling him he's on his own and meaning it this time.. Jake and Danny are both adults...even tho Danny is childlike and tempermentive, Jake feels a certain responsibility for him, but in order for him to try to make a life for himself, he is going to have to make sure Danny is settled before he can find a settled life for himself .. just my 2 euro cents worth..
Jake feels a certain responsibility for him, but in order for him to try to make a life for himself, he is going to have to make sure Danny is settled before he can find a settled life for himself .. just my 2 euro cents worth..
A very good 2 euro cents worth too. :) Your right Jake won't be able to settle until he knows that Danny is safe and well and won't do anything stupid,so like you said Jake will make sure Danny is alright first before saying goodbye to him and leaving him to find his own way in life..
Perhaps Jake will take him to a mate of theirs' where he'll know Danny will be alright and at the same time know there will be someone to keep an eye on him.
Just some extracts from the magazines I got:
Inside Soap
I'll do some more later. :)
So we now know how Johnny's car gets wrecked, by Jake when he breaks out to save Danny. I'm sure that Jake will talk Johnny into letting them live. He'll prob remind him that it was him who started all of this by sacking them both because he wanted to become a changed man and cut all ties with his past..by killing them he won't have changed and be breaking his promise to Tina.
Or there may of course be something from the past which Jake may use....
Jake will be holding it all together whilst Danny will be in a state of emotional distress. Jake is very strong and bright.
i can see next week being the making of joel beckett we will finally see what a good actor he is, and prove to us why he was saved over jake maskall!!!
bondboffin
BlackKat
29-06-2005, 13:26
Here's some from All About Soap:
Jake Moon seems to spend a great deal of his life putting his neck on the line for his belligerent brother, Danny. But this fortnight, Jake goes beyond the call of family duty when his selfish sibling sets fire to Johnny Allen's house, and he risks his life trying to save Danny. As the pair are forced to go on the run, does this spell the end of the brothers' life in Walford?
"Danny's desperate to prove himself to Johnny, and he's jealous of Johnny and Jake's close relationship," explains Joel Beckett, who plays the more mature Moon brother. "It all comes to a head when Johnny steals Danny's idea to have salsa night at Scarlet's. As usual, Jake ends up paying for Danny's mistakes!"
Danny also manages to sour Jake's fledgling romance with Chrissie Watts. "Chrissie invites Jake to lunch," explains Joel. "Unfortunately, Danny's in a real strop -- he even has a go at Johnny! Jake has to cancel on Chrissie to look after Danny. Luckily, she agrees to give him another chance - if he takes her to Johnny's salsa night."
But Danny begs Jake for a boys' night out. Fortunately, Jake refuses to cancel again but, knowing his brother's volatile mood, decides his plans with Chrissie will have to be altered.
"He changes the venue," admits Joel. "Danny would be hurt if his brother went to the salsa night so Jake keeps Chrissie company in The Vic instead. It's a quiet night so it gives them a chance to talk."
Things are just starting to get passionate when the couple are disturbed by a commotion. "Johnny's house is on fire -- Jake knows Danny's involved," reveals Joel.
"Jake realises they only have minutes to spare and tells Danny to pack a bag - they're leaving! Jake goes to sat goodbye to Chrissie, telling Danny to meet him at the canal. Chrissie tries to convince him to stay, but he knows he can't. It's sad because something could have happened between them - if Danny hadn't messed it up."
Jake then heads to the canal - just in time to see Danny pushed into Johnny's car. Jake also jumps in and Johnny locks the doors. When they stop on a deserted road, Johnny pulls Danny out and puts a gun to his head!
"Jake tells Johnny to shoot them both - Danny means that much to him. He also reminds Johnny that he's done some terrible things in his time and ruined a lot of lives too. He lets them go, but warns the pair that he never wants to see them again."
It's also in Inside Soap that Danny tries to stop Jake and Chrissie's relationship progressing - so Chrissie warns him to back off.
Carrie Bradshaw
29-06-2005, 14:57
Danny is being so mean and selfish - I think by the end of next week I will really not like Danny very much and will prob be glad to see him leaving.
BlackKat
29-06-2005, 15:10
I'm going to wait and see how it's played out.
I think as long as they show Danny as someone who clearly has problems, is falling apart, and trying to cling onto Jake I won't hate him.
Random observation on Danny and Jake: When everything is fine in Danny World, he accuses Jake on being a 'mother hen', and of always being on at him -- he's never had a problem with Jake and Chrissie before, and it was Danny who said Jake needed 'a bit of skirt'. Yet when Danny messes up, and falls apart, he wants Jake to himself, he wants Jake to sort things out, and he doesn't want anyone else to have him -- remember how he reacted when he thought Johnny was pushing him out of Jake's life, and this was before Andy even died! I think Danny would be fine with Jake having a girlfriend -- he just doesn't want him to have a girlfriend that might one day be as important to Jake as Danny is.
JustJodi
29-06-2005, 15:11
I knew this was gonna happen before I read it, Johnny :ninja: was going to be behind the Moon brothers leaving Walford.. he had Paul Trueman "rubbed out" he did Andy,, why not the Moon brothers,, some how none of this surprises me at all !! I am sure there will be more of Johnny and the Mitchells and the Watts story lines some where down the line , Johnny is an old fashioned gangster and he doesn't mind getting his hands dirty or shall we say BLOODY ????
EastendersRox
29-06-2005, 16:15
At least Danny doesn't die.
JustJodi
29-06-2005, 16:20
At least Danny doesn't die.
Hmm so they are going to leave the door open for their possible return to the square in the future ????:searchme: If they are not gonna kill ém off:confused:
Sorry if this has already been discussed as I haven't been following the thread, but in What's on TV it says that Johnny takes Danny to the woods in his car at gunpoint and we find out Danny was abused by his father as well as in care, doesn't this sound a little too familiar with another 30-something dark-haired little chancer?
Sorry if this has already been discussed as I haven't been following the thread, but in What's on TV it says that Johnny takes Danny to the woods in his car at gunpoint and we find out Danny was abused by his father as well as in care, doesn't this sound a little too familiar with another 30-something dark-haired little chancer?
:hmm: hum i wonder who you could be reffering to... :hmm:
they keep copying things without realising these days
bondboffin
I know, but it's unbelievably the same! Especially the children's home thing... and the woods of all places, they could have spared a little variation. Their name's begin with the same letter and all lol, I'm reading too much into it now. If Vicki was a boy I'd be right. :nono:
true.moon
29-06-2005, 17:35
cool sounds exciting
no one dies do they?
JustJodi
29-06-2005, 17:39
Sorry if this has already been discussed as I haven't been following the thread, but in What's on TV it says that Johnny takes Danny to the woods in his car at gunpoint and we find out Danny was abused by his father as well as in care, doesn't this sound a little too familiar with another 30-something dark-haired little chancer?
Yea but the 30 something dark haired lil chancer was holding the gun,,, are we refering to JACK DALTON and DENNIS ????:hmm:
It's the same principal, it still happened to Dennis whether he was the one holding the gun or not.
cool sounds exciting
no one dies do they?
Quote on quote, "'Both brothers are driven off. I can't tell you what happens,' says Jake, 'but I am leaving the show, possibly for good - possibly not.'"
I reckon he is. Like I said, we already have the character Dennis for the abused little boy act, there's no use for another.
Angeldelight
29-06-2005, 19:26
From All about soap
Jake heads to the canal - just in time to see Danny pushed into Johnny's car.Jake also jumps in and Johnny locks the doors. When they stop on a deserted raod, Johnny pulls Danny out and puts a gun to his head!
Jake tells Johnny to shoot them both - Danny means that much to him. He also reminds Johnny that he's done some terrible things in his time and ruined a lot of lives too. Johnny lets them go, but warns the pair that he never wants to see them again.
Johnny makes an enemny of Alfie when he admits he wanted to make Danny suffer. But when the stunned stall holder vows to get even, Johnny confesses that he let the brothers go. Alfie's unconvined though - until Jake phones histo reassure his cousin that they're all right.
How considerate lol, I'm jsut remembering what the article said as well. It said that Danny's always seen Johnny as some sort of father figure and that's why he's really p'd at Johnny for sacking them and stealing the salsa idea thing or whatever it was... EastEnders really is too repetitive for my liking now.
BlackKat
29-06-2005, 22:05
I don't think it's that he sees Johnny as a father figure - he doesn't respect him, or anything, it's just that he's putting all his anger about his father onto Johnny.
Just quoting from the mag, not that I get it regularly because it was only like 30/40p, but I was stuck in the middle of nowhere and you had to drive 15 mins to the nearest shop only to find they didn't sell Soaplife, I was sad lol.
I knew Jake would be able to talk Johnny out of killing them both, he is very clever, a real thinker. Maybe this is where he finds out about fire no1 and also uses that to persaude Johnny, a bit of emotional pressure..So it is going to be really interesting when Jake returns to the square after Johnny telling them he never wants to see either of them again..um..didn't he say the same thing to Eddy...Jake isn't afraid of Johnny he can handle him..one thing is for sure they will be sworn enemies from now on in..
As for Danny I am really going off him and I'll prob end up hating him but at the same time I may have a little compassion for him. To be honest though I think that all my sadness and sorrow will be for Jake.
Yes Danny and D have the abuse in foster care in common and the abuse by the father except D's father (Den) abused him mentally as well as physically in their confrontation in the pub, but D hasn't gone around screwing up lives..Danny has to let Jake go and make his own way in life if he doesn't then he is just going to keep on screwing up Jake's, plus he can't love him as much as Jake loves him.."If you love someone you'll let them go.." Jake has to let go of Danny too and let him learn the hard way.."You have to be cruel to be kind.."
***sharon rules***
30-06-2005, 12:10
i dont want them to leave
angelblue
30-06-2005, 12:26
Oh no when is this going to be screened i am going to miss the 7th and 8th espisode and i will miss the sunday repeat as well
But it sounds really good aww how cute is jake saving his brother i think his brother means alot to him it going to be sad though :lol:
***sharon rules***
30-06-2005, 13:23
Oh no when is this going to be screened i am going to miss the 7th and 8th espisode and i will miss the sunday repeat as well
But it sounds really good aww how cute is jake saving his brother i think his brother means alot to him it going to be sad though :lol:
i think the hole thing starts on the 6th july not sure.
angelblue
30-06-2005, 13:24
Thanxs :lol:
Its all next week 2 - 8th July. Bought my TV Quick for next week and its in there. Fri 8th is when Johnny takes them to the woods - supposed to be just Danny, but Jake jumps in with them, Jonny takes Danny into the woods with a gun, Jake manages to get out of the car and catch up with them, Jake and Danny at Jonny's mercy.......will they all survive........duff duff duff duff duff
***sharon rules***
30-06-2005, 13:29
Its all next week 2 - 8th July. Bought my TV Quick for next week and its in there. Fri 8th is when Johnny takes them to the woods - supposed to be just Danny, but Jake jumps in with them, Jonny takes Danny into the woods with a gun, Jake manages to get out of the car and catch up with them, Jake and Danny at Jonny's mercy.......will they all survive........duff duff duff duff duff
i think that jake will save danny.
JustJodi
30-06-2005, 13:31
Oh goody then we won't miss the EXIT :crying: We are hoping not to miss the Mitchells entrance either.. any one know when Phil, Grant and Peggy are storming in ????:searchme:
Yeah, maybe Jake will promise Jonny that Danny will never darken Walford again, and that he will make sure of it as long as he lets them go, or something like that??
***sharon rules***
30-06-2005, 13:37
Yeah, maybe Jake will promise Jonny that Danny will never darken Walford again, and that he will make sure of it as long as he lets them go, or something like that??
yeah.i read a mag and it said that jonny dies so maybe jake will get the gun and shoot jonny.
I hope there's no truth in that! Johnny rocks, he's like, to me, what Den could have been on his return if they didn't set out to destroy him.
BlackKat
30-06-2005, 13:42
Johnny doesn't die. He's mentioned in the next week's PO spoilers, very much alive, so...
As far as I know, nobody dies.
***sharon rules***
30-06-2005, 13:44
[QUOTE=BlackKat]Johnny doesn't die. He's mentioned in the next week's PO spoilers, very much alive, so...
As far as I know, nobody dies.[/Q
that good no one dies.
I know that, I assumed she meant that's how Jake comes back because he was told not to return as well. I'd hate for Jake to kill Johnny in order to return. The character of Jake is nothing to Mr. Allen lol.
BlackKat
30-06-2005, 13:46
I knew Jake would be able to talk Johnny out of killing them both, he is very clever, a real thinker. Maybe this is where he finds out about fire no1 and also uses that to persaude Johnny, a bit of emotional pressure..So it is going to be really interesting when Jake returns to the square after Johnny telling them he never wants to see either of them again..um..didn't he say the same thing to Eddy...Jake isn't afraid of Johnny he can handle him..one thing is for sure they will be sworn enemies from now on in..
I read in one newspaper article somewhere, the other reason Johnny doesn't kill Danny is for Jake -- that Jake has always been like a son to him, so when Jake tells him to shoot them both, Johnny can't do it. (I'm waiting for the revelation that Jake is actually Johnny's son, and that Johnny is fully aware of the fact, but I don't think it's going to happen, so...*sulks*)
***sharon rules***
30-06-2005, 13:48
I read in one newspaper article somewhere, the other reason Johnny doesn't kill Danny is for Jake -- that Jake has always been like a son to him, so when Jake tells him to shoot them both, Johnny can't do it. (I'm waiting for the revelation that Jake is actually Johnny's son, and that Johnny is fully aware of the fact, but I don't think it's going to happen, so...*sulks*)
i dont think jake is jonnys son.
BlackKat
30-06-2005, 13:50
i dont think jake is jonnys son.
I don't think he is either. I just think it would explain a lot if he was.
***sharon rules***
30-06-2005, 13:52
I don't think he is either. I just think it would explain a lot if he was.
yeah.
it says in radio times that joel and jake were axed becuase "the show was awash with gangsters"
that was a stupid reason... they werent really gangsters at all..juts sidekicks
and now that jonny fired them they wouldnt even be that!!! so surely jake maskall should be brought back aswell???
bondboffin
eastenders mad
30-06-2005, 17:38
i think he is staying but i don't know
i_luv_dennis
30-06-2005, 17:51
jake is staying
I read in one newspaper article somewhere, the other reason Johnny doesn't kill Danny is for Jake -- that Jake has always been like a son to him, so when Jake tells him to shoot them both, Johnny can't do it. (I'm waiting for the revelation that Jake is actually Johnny's son, and that Johnny is fully aware of the fact, but I don't think it's going to happen, so...*sulks*)
That thought has crossed my mind too and why he couldn't actually ever kill Jake but I don't think it's the case either. I think that Johnny does look upon Jake as a "substitute"son and perhaps this is why he gives them another chance. Johnny did tell Jake that he wanted someone to work along side him, like family...Really Johnny hasn't got any grievances with Jake as he has always been loyal to Johnny, all the problems have come from Danny..
I think if anyone was Johnny's son it would be Danny and perhaps that is why the father abused and beat Danny because he wasn't his...
I can't wait for Jake to return and his confrontation with Johnny, Jake will prob tell Johnny that he's back for good and doesn't care if he doesn't like it, he'll stay out of his way and Johnny's to stay out of his...
BlackKat
01-07-2005, 09:19
I think if anyone was Johnny's son it would be Danny and perhaps that is why the father abused and beat Danny because he wasn't his...
But I thought he beat Jake as well. I think Danny's just reacted to it a different way. Plus Jake's older, so he may have vague memories of happier times, whilst that's all Danny's ever known.
I think if Danny was Johnny's son and Johnny knew about it, he wouldn't treat him the way he does. Family seems to be important to Johnny. No, I think it would be Jake if either of them. But, like I said, I don't think either of them are. I think Jake's like a son to him, and that's as far as it goes. :)
But I thought he beat Jake as well. I think Danny's just reacted to it a different way. Plus Jake's older, so he may have vague memories of happier times, whilst that's all Danny's ever known.
I think if Danny was Johnny's son and Johnny knew about it, he wouldn't treat him the way he does. Family seems to be important to Johnny. No, I think it would be Jake if either of them. But, like I said, I don't think either of them are. I think Jake's like a son to him, and that's as far as it goes. :)
I agree. Jake is a lot stronger than Danny and yes you're prob right both boys were prob beaten...hopefully all will be revealed soon:)
Jake will be a lot happier if he has nothing to do with Johnny and I hate to say this but without Danny too..
I think that once Danny is away from the square and Johnny he will be o.k...
BlackKat
01-07-2005, 09:42
I agree. Jake is a lot stronger than Danny and yes you're prob right both boys were prob beaten...hopefully all will be revealed soon:)
Jake will be a lot happier if he has nothing to do with Johnny and I hate to say this but without Danny too..
I think that once Danny is away from the square and Johnny he will be o.k...
I think he'll be happier without Danny too. While usually everything's okay with Danny, there's always a chance that Danny will mess things up and I think whilst there's still that chance Jake won't be able to relax and be happy. I mean, Jake's only a few years older than Danny, and yet everyone puts this pressure on him to control Danny. He's spent all his life doing it, and he's still doing it now, and what's more people tell him to do it.
I think he'll be happier without Danny too. While usually everything's okay with Danny, there's always a chance that Danny will mess things up and I think whilst there's still that chance Jake won't be able to relax and be happy. I mean, Jake's only a few years older than Danny, and yet everyone puts this pressure on him to control Danny. He's spent all his life doing it, and he's still doing it now, and what's more people tell him to do it.
I think that Jake's getting fed up with it all now, but on the other hand he does feel responsible for Danny. Jake is the only person who has ever really loved Danny and given him the attention he needs, I get the impression that Jake has more or less brought Danny up, he did say once that he had spent the last 20 years mopping up after Danny. I reckon Jake was about 9 or 10 when he started taking care of Danny...
BlackKat
01-07-2005, 10:30
I think it's going to be the fact that Jake put his life on the line for Danny that basically tells both of them that something needs to change.
I think it's going to be the fact that Jake put his life on the line for Danny that basically tells both of them that something needs to change.
The wake up call for both or maybe just Danny..
Poor Jake he was really upset after the argument with Danny. Mnd you I think he was more upset over Chrissie. Jake did the right thing telling Danny to go and that he was fed up with clearing up after him, then telling him to go find Johnny and wind him up.."maybe he'll save me the trouble..." awww Jakey's face when he left Danny lying there amongst all that rubbish he was so upset. Danny was in the right place though amongst the rubbish. I have no sympathy for him and am glad he is leaving. My heart goes out to Jake and it is him I am going to feel sad for.
Chrissie's no better at the moment either by the way she keeps taking all her anger out on Jake....
squarelady
02-07-2005, 07:55
I feel a bit sorry for Jake! He's totally stuck in the middle but he's not helping himself. Everytime there's a fight between Danny and Chrissie he goes straight to Chrissie first. Which is lovely and everything but it's pushing Danny further away!
BlackKat
02-07-2005, 08:49
Poor Jake he was really upset after the argument with Danny. Mnd you I think he was more upset over Chrissie. Jake did the right thing telling Danny to go and that he was fed up with clearing up after him, then telling him to go find Johnny and wind him up.."maybe he'll save me the trouble..." awww Jakey's face when he left Danny lying there amongst all that rubbish he was so upset. Danny was in the right place though amongst the rubbish. I have no sympathy for him and am glad he is leaving. My heart goes out to Jake and it is him I am going to feel sad for.
Chrissie's no better at the moment either by the way she keeps taking all her anger out on Jake....
I loved the way Jake told Danny he wasn't going to keep not pushing back. Danny's just really annoying me at the moment -- they're not putting across why he's being like this, and Jake Maskall can do as many interviews as he likes, but I actually need to see some evidence of it onscreen. So :nono: at Danny.
With Chrissie, she is taking out her anger on Jake, but we know why she's doing it. It doesn't make it okay, but it's...I can't remember the word. But, yeah, it's that, :lol:
BlackKat
02-07-2005, 08:57
I feel a bit sorry for Jake! He's totally stuck in the middle but he's not helping himself. Everytime there's a fight between Danny and Chrissie he goes straight to Chrissie first. Which is lovely and everything but it's pushing Danny further away!
I think Danny's starting to become a bit resentful of Chrissie. Also think that Chrissie doesn't like Danny at all.
Yep, I think if Danny was staying longer they'd be a definite tug of war with Jake between them. And poor Jake stuck in the middle like you said.
I think Danny's starting to become a bit resentful of Chrissie. Also think that Chrissie doesn't like Danny at all.
Yep, I think if Danny was staying longer they'd be a definite tug of war with Jake between them. And poor Jake stuck in the middle like you said.
that would be interesting to see actually
bondboffin
Danny and Chrissie are both acting the same at the mo and they are both taking out their probs and anger on Jake.
I was thinking that Perhaps we are supposed to be disliking Danny so we don't miss him when he leaves. Whereas Jake on the other hand I think that we are being made to fall in love with him and really warm to him so that we will miss him and look forward to him returning...
Yeah. It would be bad if we hated Jake and loved Danny. But I could never hate Jake, unless he hit Chrissie or something.
xxx
BlackKat
03-07-2005, 11:23
I was thinking that Perhaps we are supposed to be disliking Danny so we don't miss him when he leaves. Whereas Jake on the other hand I think that we are being made to fall in love with him and really warm to him so that we will miss him and look forward to him returning...
I'm thinking that too. It's only very recently that Danny has started to bug me -- If he carries on like this, I won't be missing him. In fact, I think for Jake's sake, he really needs to go if he's going to continue like this.
I'm wondering whether anything will change once him and Jake are out of Walford, or whether Danny will just think "New place, new people, and I can act exactly like I did before."
I'm wondering whether anything will change once him and Jake are out of Walford, or whether Danny will just think "New place, new people, and I can act exactly like I did before."
:lol: Yeah Danny will probably go on to mess up again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again............. :lol:
LOL! It's obvious that Jake really loves Danny but I can't believe that Danny loves Jake as much. When Danny is happy he doesn't care about Jake, when Danny is upset and Jake is happy he doesn't like it, so he messes things up for him. I really am disliking him, it took me ages to warm to him but Inever did the way I have Jake. Danny just comes across as patheitc when trying to be hard. Yes he is very funny when he's not stropping and i have also thought until recently that he was sweet..sorry I don't think I am going to be upset where he's concerned at all. Jake I will be upset for..(and I'm going to miss him :crying: 9 weeks :crying: )
BlackKat
03-07-2005, 11:37
:lol: Yeah Danny will probably go on to mess up again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again............. :lol:
:rotfl: Yep, I think he will, and I think that's why him and Jake go their seperate ways: Jake's tired of it. At first I thought, Danny would decide he needed to stand on his own two feet for once, and tell Jake to go. But, I'm in a cynical mood, so I think Danny will shove everything that happened in Walford under the carpet, cling onto Jake for the first few weeks because he'll still be skittish about Johnny, then tell Jake to stop being a mother hen, and then do the same as before.
I think that it's going to be Danny who lets Jake go after having a big wake up call from Johnny. I think that he is going to realise that both him and Jake could of died that night, both would of done if it hadn't been for Jake talking Johnny round. I think that Danny will realise that he has been doing the same to Jake for the past 20 years holding a gun to his head, making him do what he wanted, messing up knowing that Jake would clear up after him and now the time has come to give Jake his life back and to take that gun away...to set him free..
I'm gonna cry, not for Danny but for Jake...awww when he says bye to Chrissie and Nana Moon.. :crying: :crying:
eastenders mad
04-07-2005, 15:59
i know the poor thing. At least he has a brain other than his brother.
poor old nana, loking at that pic, it seems that she is oblivious to what is going on, i love old nana moon!
bondboffin
O.K I ws wrong I did feel a tinsy winsy bit sorry for Danny last night. He cracked me up when he was wandering around the square in his dressing gown! I loved it when he was being all sweet again when he was helping Alfie and flogging those screw drivers to Big Mo..but oh dear he went off like a "Can" again!
In the end though Danny was starting to realise that he was acting badly and making the effort to make amends, unfortunately though in all the wrong places..He should of listened to Jake a long time ago because now it is a case of too little too late...
You can see that an exit and return is being built..exit for Danny and a return for Jakey they are setting things up for his return...
my heart went out to danny moon last night, it a sad sight to see a grown man in tears, dont know who said that before in eastender, maybe Den or Jonny about Billy not sure, anways...
i hated Jonny last night for the way he treated Jake, and im sure this week Danny's scenes are going to be very emotional...loosing Sam, Jake and the plot
Eastenders back at its best
bondboffin
lisa cullumbine
05-07-2005, 12:51
danny sets fire to johnnys house because johnny stole dannys salsa idea for the club then he told danny to bog off again when he asked for a job again that upset him even more johnny finds out danny done it and takes him away in his car to shoot him but jake spots danny in jihnnys car and gets in with him to try to persuade johnny not to he does let them both go and tells them not to come back jake does eventually come back though.
di marco
05-07-2005, 16:10
my heart went out to danny moon last night, it a sad sight to see a grown man in tears, dont know who said that before in eastender, maybe Den or Jonny about Billy not sure, anways...
it was johnny who said it to billy
i hated Jonny last night for the way he treated Jake
when did johnny speak to jake last night?
lisa cullumbine
05-07-2005, 16:20
No Johhny Spoke To Danny Last Night In The Club And Told Him To Bog Off
So As I Said Above Thats Why Danny Got Upset And Sets Fire To Johnnys House Thats Either Tonight Or By End Of Week Jake Spots Danny In Johnnys Car And Gets In With Him Because He Knows What Johhny Is Capable Of Thats When Johhny Speaks To Them Both And Tells Them To Leave Walford
lisa cullumbine
05-07-2005, 16:24
When Danny's thrown out by bouncers Johnny thinks the problem's over, but the next thing he knows his house is on fire. Patrick says he saw Danny outside the house so his suspicions are confirmed.
“It's his worst nightmare come to life,” says Billy. “He thinks Ruby's trapped inside.
“Johnny puts his life on the line, but he's overcome by smoke and pulled out by the firemen - and Ruby is not even in the building. Afterwards Johnny is seething and out for revenge.”
The Moon brothers prepare to flee the Square, but Johnny throws Danny into a car and Jake rushes to his side.
They are driven to a wood, where Johnny leads Danny off at gunpoint. Desperate Jake breaks out of the car and races to find Johnny, who's about to shoot Danny.
He's witnessed him killing Andy and is convinced that their numbers are up.
di marco
05-07-2005, 16:44
No Johhny Spoke To Danny Last Night In The Club And Told Him To Bog Off
yeh i thought thats what it was
it was johnny who said it to billy
when did johnny speak to jake last night?
sorry i meant danny, i get ethier names mixed up from time to time
bondboffin
After tonights epi and some of the things Jakey said I'm sure that Danny is going to end up in an institution as it is obvious he is mentally ill. I think this is why Jakey has been protecting him and clearing up after him all his life until now...
JustJodi
06-07-2005, 10:07
After tonights epi and some of the things Jakey said I'm sure that Danny is going to end up in an institution as it is obvious he is mentally ill. I think this is why Jakey has been protecting him and clearing up after him all his life until now... I was thinking of the mental illness thing myself, and so did my partner,,I do not think in EE they have not instiutionalized any one have they ????:searchme: Would be a good story line actually, cos it is realistic..I think that would be a good exit for Danny..And probably the best thing Jake could do for him..sad.. but if Jake thinks about it long enough, he will have done his brother a big favor ..Abuse had been brought up from time to time, maybe Danny is the way he is because of all the beatings done by his foster parents or while in "care"??:searchme:
Gosh us EE fans have better story lines in our heads,, hope EE writers are reading this stuff,, we got tons of great stories in the making whoo hoo !!!!
I was thinking of the mental illness thing myself, and so did my partner,,I do not think in EE they have not instiutionalized any one have they ????:searchme: Would be a good story line actually, cos it is realistic..I think that would be a good exit for Danny..And probably the best thing Jake could do for him..sad.. but if Jake thinks about it long enough, he will have done his brother a big favor ..Abuse had been brought up from time to time, maybe Danny is the way he is because of all the beatings done by his foster parents or while in "care"??:searchme:
Gosh us EE fans have better story lines in our heads,, hope EE writers are reading this stuff,, we got tons of great stories in the making whoo hoo !!!!
Sue Osman was Institutionalised after suffering a complete breakdown after the loss of her and Ali's baby. It was a good storyline and it showed Sue in the institution and Ali visiting her.
This is the only realistic thing that I can think of that will split the Moon babies up and ties in with
"We will understand why Jake did what he did and why for the first time in his life he abandons his brother.."
Also the something special..
Danny needs professional help and Jake has to get him this for both their sakes..
P.S. Yes between us all we can put EE way on top with all our grat ideas and storylines etc! :lol:
jake and danny fans, ive started a new script - Till Death Do Us Part (Danny's Revenge ) which is now in the scripts section
was almost in tears when i wrote it
bondboffin
BlackKat
06-07-2005, 15:35
Danny needs professional help and Jake has to get him this for both their sakes..
I think if what Jake said was true and Danny was torching things and stealing cars when he was 10 (!), he's probably needed it for a long time. I think Jake needs to realise this as well - even though he keeps saying that's he's had enough of dealing with Danny's mess, he still does it. When Danny was trying to get to Dennis, Jake kept saying that he'd be fine, he just needed to get him home. I don't think he realises that Danny has problems that Jake can't necessarily deal with by himself - or if he does, he's choosing to ignore it. If this behaviour does go back to childhood, then I can see it being likely that Jake hasn't realised - he was also a kid when it was going on, so he may have got into the mindset of it not being a problem that needs professional help, but that it's just Danny being Danny.
JustJodi
06-07-2005, 16:33
I think if what Jake said was true and Danny was torching things and stealing cars when he was 10 (!), he's probably needed it for a long time. I think Jake needs to realise this as well - even though he keeps saying that's he's had enough of dealing with Danny's mess, he still does it. When Danny was trying to get to Dennis, Jake kept saying that he'd be fine, he just needed to get him home. I don't think he realises that Danny has problems that Jake can't necessarily deal with by himself - or if he does, he's choosing to ignore it. If this behaviour does go back to childhood, then I can see it being likely that Jake hasn't realised - he was also a kid when it was going on, so he may have got into the mindset of it not being a problem that needs professional help, but that it's just Danny being Danny.
Jake needs professional help as well,, he is co-dependant, and Danny knows Jake will never LEAVE him or stop BAILING him out of trouble.. so hes using that .Ok we all know when a family crisis occurs, we all try to jump in and help,but this sort of problem is out of control and getting way outta hand,, Jake needs to get help dealing with his own problem,, being CO DEPENDANT,, and let Danny hit rock bottom,, a good dose of TOUGH LOVE will help Danny in the long run,, just my 2 euro cents worth:)
BlackKat
06-07-2005, 16:40
Jake needs professional help as well,, he is co-dependant, and Danny knows Jake will never LEAVE him or stop BAILING him out of trouble.. so hes using that .Ok we all know when a family crisis occurs, we all try to jump in and help,but this sort of problem is out of control and getting way outta hand,, Jake needs to get help dealing with his own problem,, being CO DEPENDANT,, and let Danny hit rock bottom,, a good dose of TOUGH LOVE will help Danny in the long run,, just my 2 euro cents worth:)
I don't think Jake needs help in the same sense that Danny does - I mean, he's not as dependent as Danny - seriously, I thought Danny was going to hyperventilate yesterday when he was trying to find Jake. But I agree, Jake is also part of the problem -- He can't leave Danny to fend for himself. It's not that he doesn't want to, or that it's not the best thing for either of them, I really do believe that Jake just can't do it. I think it goes much deeper and darker than the usual "Little bro messes up, Big bro sorts it out," storylines.
I think Jake knows that Danny has a prob and that is why he always cleans up his messes and sorts things out. He knows that Danny can't help himself, that he is messed up therefore he's not really responsible for what he does. Jake knows Danny can't make it on his own and has made himslef Danny's carer and it is taking it's toll on him and his life. Jake can't do it anymore and I think deep down he knows this. Perhaps after Danny torches Johnny's house, which almost cost them their lives, this will be the wake up call for Jake, making him realise that he can't iognore the problem anymore he has to do something for both their sakes...
Remember when he said to Dennis "He's messed up in the head..." (that also hit a nerve with Dennis as he is too but not to the extent that Danny is) "He dosen't realise what he's doing, he doesn't think.." Jake also makes Danny look at him when he's in a "strop" and he asks him what he's going to do..
Yes Jake knows alright.
I think if what Jake said was true and Danny was torching things and stealing cars when he was 10 (!), he's probably needed it for a long time. I think Jake needs to realise this as well - even though he keeps saying that's he's had enough of dealing with Danny's mess, he still does it. When Danny was trying to get to Dennis, Jake kept saying that he'd be fine, he just needed to get him home. I don't think he realises that Danny has problems that Jake can't necessarily deal with by himself - or if he does, he's choosing to ignore it. If this behaviour does go back to childhood, then I can see it being likely that Jake hasn't realised - he was also a kid when it was going on, so he may have got into the mindset of it not being a problem that needs professional help, but that it's just Danny being Danny.
I'm pretty certain that Jake knows that Danny is "Ill"
"He's messed up in his head" "He doesn't know what he's doing..he doesn't think.."
So both boys were beaten by their drunken father and Danny clung to Jake for protection. I loved the way their childhood was told thorugh both Jake and Danny, Jake all sentimental with Chrissie and Danny going wild in the club shouting it from the roof tops.
Can't wait for tonights, it will be sad though as it is bye bye Danny and No Jakey for 9 weeks :(
I'm glad Danny is going as I'm not really taking to him, I don't think he's made the impact Jake has and his character has never really been strong,. Danny has been good for comedy and emotion but there isn't really anywhere for the character of Danny to go..
So last night Jakey was trying to move on..like when Alfie rang himbecasue Danny was out of control down the club Jakey just tunred his phone off and said "..try to move on" Awww I loved the way he tenderley stroked the top of Chrissie's shoulder..
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 10:59
So last night Jakey was trying to move on..like when Alfie rang himbecasue Danny was out of control down the club Jakey just tunred his phone off and said "..try to move on" Awww I loved the way he tenderley stroked the top of Chrissie's shoulder.. I thought it was really SEXY :heart: when she goes thru the door, and looks at him ,, he is about to go out the door, and locks the door and goes to her:wub: :wub: ,,, hmmm will they actually do it.. or will some one come POUNDING on the door just before they get "comfortable"?????????:searchme:
You could tell that she deliberately let that door swing open whilst hesitating at the bottom of the stairs before going up...it was as much to say "Come get me baby, I'm all yours" I loved the way Chrissie casually Closely squeezed passed Jakey. I think that they could of poss just made love when they hear all the comotion. That's what I'm hoping anyway so that we get to see them in bed together, finishing off so to speak with a bit of kissing and hopefully this way we may get a lovely shot of Jakey with no shirt on...
i cant wait till tonight
Should be really good. I'm especailly looking forward to the bit where Jakey talks Johnny out of killing Danny...It's going to be sad when Jakey says his goodbyes to nana and Chrissie:)
I haven't been this excited about Eastenders for a very long time:)
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 11:14
You could tell that she deliberately let that door swing open whilst hesitating at the bottom of the stairs before going up...it was as much to say "Come get me baby, I'm all yours" I loved the way Chrissie casually Closely squeezed passed Jakey. I think that they could of poss just made love when they hear all the comotion. That's what I'm hoping anyway so that we get to see them in bed together, finishing off so to speak with a bit of kissing and hopefully this way we may get a lovely shot of Jakey with no shirt on... Jakey with out a shirt omg !!!!! :cheer: Well maybe with all the commotion going on out side,, they will think the EARTH MOVED for them :rotfl:
Any way this evenings eppi is going to be something !!!!
Hmmmm i need to think.. who used to own the house that Johnny is living in now ??? The Mitchells ??? ( having another brain freeze here ):hmm:
Jakey with out a shirt omg !!!!! :cheer: Well maybe with all the commotion going on out side,, they will think the EARTH MOVED for them :rotfl:
Any way this evenings eppi is going to be something !!!!
Hmmmm i need to think.. who used to own the house that Johnny is living in now ??? The Mitchells ??? ( having another brain freeze here ):hmm:
:rotfl: The Watts and yes the Mitchells did own it at one point
The Mitchells orignally owned Andy's House (31) which Pat now owns..
BlackKat
08-07-2005, 11:24
Janine's house is the one the Moon's are living in.
Johnny Allen's house used to be Phil Mitchell's, then Steve's, and then Den's according to the EE webbie.
I can't wait until tonight!
Janine's house is the one the Moon's are living in.
Johnny Allen's house used to be Phil Mitchell's, then Steve's, and then Den's according to the EE webbie.
I can't wait until tonight!
Oops I made a booby I was getting mixed up. Thanks:)
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 12:03
The Mitchells orignally owned Andy's House (31) which Pat now owns..
Hmmmmmm how will Phil feel about Pat living in his old house ??? What was their relationship like before ??? Just curious,, but I do know Pat has tons of experince dealing with shady characters, she did try to help Phil go out the back door didn't she , when he was on the run ????:searchme:
Hmmmmmm how will Phil feel about Pat living in his old house ??? What was their relationship like before ??? Just curious,, but I do know Pat has tons of experince dealing with shady characters, she did try to help Phil go out the back door didn't she , when he was on the run ????:searchme:
he will be mad, he was oik with pat but i dont think hed want anyone in his house or owing hus buisnesses
i know peggy will not stand pat living in her house
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 12:16
he will be mad, he was oik with pat but i dont think hed want anyone in his house or owing hus buisnesses
i know peggy will not stand pat living in her house
I seem to recall ( vaguely) that Pat and Peggy were never really on "friendly"terms,, any one have any back ground on those two...
I think Pat has come to the point in her life where she should at least have something -she will have the bookies ( and not have to pinch pennies) and have a house clear and free of debt,, so I think she has something to fight for now ..what do u guys think ??
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 12:20
I think tonight we will have one HECK of an episode..Is this when both of the boys leave.. or is it next week ??? I am getting my dates all mixed up.HELLP !!!!:wall:
BlackKat
08-07-2005, 12:22
I think tonight we will have one HECK of an episode..Is this when both of the boys leave.. or is it next week ??? I am getting my dates all mixed up.HELLP !!!!:wall:
Both of them leave tonight - on Monday is when Alfie gets a phone call from Jake telling him that they're both okay, but we'll probably just see Alfie's side of the call, not Jake on the other end.
I love Pat she is a great character and a fighter. Yes Pat did help Phil out when he made his brief return and she told Tina to keep quiet. So I don't think Phil has any grievances with Pat. I'll have to get the old memory going on Pat and Peggy. I will keep you informed as bits and bobs come back to me..if at all LOL! I think your right though there relationship was stormy. Something has just come back to me..they have been love rivals in the past and had a massive bust up over Frank Pat's childhood sweetheart and husband. Peggy and Frank got together (pat and frank having divorced)can't remember if they married, anyway they all went to Spain (Pat, Peggy, Frank and Roy)and it came out that Frank and Pat had been seeing one another. Well actually they were caught in bed together and things sort of spiralled from there and a rift was caused between Pat and Peggy..Pat and Frank went their seperate ways in a very emotional and good eppi. I think I've remembered this correclty, Pat was all set for leaving the square with Frank and actually did but somewhere along the way she changed her mind..ah that's right it's starting to come back to me now, she was married to Roy at the time and in the end Pat decided to stay with him..
Sorry it's a bit bity but I hope this helps you.
I seem to recall ( vaguely) that Pat and Peggy were never really on "friendly"terms,, any one have any back ground on those two...
I think Pat has come to the point in her life where she should at least have something -she will have the bookies ( and not have to pinch pennies) and have a house clear and free of debt,, so I think she has something to fight for now ..what do u guys think ??
even more unfrindly after she discoverd that husband frank has been sleeping with pat!!!!
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 12:28
Both of them leave tonight - on Monday is when Alfie gets a phone call from Jake telling him that they're both okay, but we'll probably just see Alfie's side of the call, not Jake on the other end.
So that means tonight Johnny tries to do Danny in ??? All of this in one night OMG :eek: I think I will just send my hubby out to get the dumb computer and I am gonna stay home ... gee whiz cant miss this one whoo hoo
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 12:31
I love Pat she is a great character and a fighter. Yes Pat did help Phil out when he made his brief return and she told Tina to keep quiet. So I don't think Phil has any grievances with Pat. I'll have to get the old memory going on Pat and Peggy. I will keep you informed as bits and bobs come back to me..if at all LOL! I think your right though there relationship was stormy. Something has just come back to me..they have been love rivals in the past and had a massive bust up over Frank Pat's childhood sweetheart and husband. Peggy and Frank got together (pat and frank having divorced)can't remember if they married, anyway they all went to Spain (Pat, Peggy, Frank and Roy)and it came out that Frank and Pat had been seeing one another. Well actually they were caught in bed together and things sort of spiralled from there and a rift was caused between Pat and Peggy..Pat and Frank went their seperate ways in a very emotional and good eppi. I think I've remembered this correclty, Pat was all set for leaving the square with Frank and actually did but somewhere along the way she changed her mind..ah that's right it's starting to come back to me now, she was married to Roy at the time and in the end Pat decided to stay with him..
Sorry it's a bit bity but I hope this helps you.
Bless your heart,, now as I read this it all became pretty clear... Frank was really the love of Pats life wasn't he,, i know she still carrys a torch for that man...Thanks Babe for the bits and pieces,, it was terrific and thanks so much for being patient with me :) :wub:
BlackKat
08-07-2005, 12:32
So that means tonight Johnny tries to do Danny in ??? All of this in one night OMG :eek: I think I will just send my hubby out to get the dumb computer and I am gonna stay home ... gee whiz cant miss this one whoo hoo
Yeah, it's all tonight. Can't wait. :cheer: I hope if they do cut bits of the fire out they don't cut too much.
Bless your heart,, now as I read this it all became pretty clear... Frank was really the love of Pats life wasn't he,, i know she still carrys a torch for that man...Thanks Babe for the bits and pieces,, it was terrific and thanks so much for being patient with me :) :wub:
Anytime and your very welcome. I will do my best to help. Frank is really the only love of Pat's life even though at one time he ran off and left her penniless and in debt. I believe this was another character who had a break down through failure. Pat and Frank also ran the Vic together at one time.
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 12:39
Yeah, it's all tonight. Can't wait. :cheer: I hope if they do cut bits of the fire out they don't cut too much.
Thats it I am staying home and hubby can just go get the computer,, I am not gonna wait till Sunday to see this one no way !!!!! Gonna sms him now and tell him to just go pick up the PC on his way home from work.. :p
So that means tonight Johnny tries to do Danny in ??? All of this in one night OMG :eek: I think I will just send my hubby out to get the dumb computer and I am gonna stay home ... gee whiz cant miss this one whoo hoo
What about the omnibus on Sunday..yeah I know you can't wait till then..nah send hubby out LOL
JustJodi
08-07-2005, 12:42
Anytime and your very welcome. I will do my best to help. Frank is really the only love of Pat's life even though at one time he ran off and left her penniless and in debt. I believe this was another character who had a break down through failure. Pat and Frank also ran the Vic together at one time.
I am still trying to figure out how Johnny Allen is a part of Pats past, I know she used to be a "prossie"at one time, but surely Johnny wasn't her pimp was he,, remember that documentary they did about BIG MO AND PAT last year,, I do not recall a Johnny being mentioned,, or did I miss that part when I ran to the kitchen for food :searchme: :wall:
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