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Kim

31-05-2006, 18:09

I couldn't find a thread that I thought this should go in, so I thought we could have a thread to discuss all future storylines concerning Sonia, Rebecca and Martin.

In the latest issue of soaplife, it says that Sonia wants to tell Rebecca that she is her biological mum.

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Chris_2k11

31-05-2006, 18:16

Zzzzzzzzz! Is it just me or has anyone else completely had their guts-full of all this Sonia/Martin/Rebecca/Naomi business?!! :mad:

willsmummy

31-05-2006, 19:24

Zzzzzzzzz! Is it just me or has anyone else completely had their guts-full of all this Sonia/Martin/Rebecca/Naomi business?!! :mad:

Absolutely Birks. I wish that Sonia would make her mind up, and then they can all leave the show.

Kim

31-05-2006, 19:25

Yeah I've had enough. I never thought I'd be saying this but it would be bearable if they were together.

shannisrules

31-05-2006, 19:28

ive not been watching for about a week but yea im getting kinda sickk of sonia now and the storyline eastenders isnt as good as it used to be for sure usually im craving for it lol but i dont feel the need to watch it anymore

crazygirl

31-05-2006, 20:18

yes it has now bwcome a boring storyline and i wish sonia would just leave martin alone because i think him n carly are great

Kim

31-05-2006, 20:25

yes it has now bwcome a boring storyline and i wish sonia would just leave martin alone because i think him n carly are great

I think they are but if he were to get with Carly for good Rebecca would gradually become isolated which I think is bad as Jade Shariff is a good actress for someone so young.

BlackKat

31-05-2006, 20:52

Zzzzzzzzz! Is it just me or has anyone else completely had their guts-full of all this Sonia/Martin/Rebecca/Naomi business?!! :mad:

Totally. Everytime it seems nearly over they add yet another 'twist' to keep it going. They'll be killing off Pauline next just to drag the storyline out some more.

sarah21

31-05-2006, 22:39

It isn't going to be over. It is a continuing storyline and will continue to be so. It is about character development and marriage breakup and the problems that go with it. It is very good and very well acted.

DaVeyWaVey

31-05-2006, 23:53

Good idea to start a thread on this, but the ongoing Martin/Sonia/Naomi/Rebecca saga is making me fall asleep!

Kim

01-06-2006, 12:33

Good idea to start a thread on this, but the ongoing Martin/Sonia/Naomi/Rebecca saga is making me fall asleep!

I agree Dave, just get Naomi out the picture and it would be better, well a little anyway.

littlemo

01-06-2006, 14:58

Yeah, I think Martin and Sonia should get back together. They were a great couple, and I don't understand why the writers decided to turn Sonia into somebody so self involved,and unconcerned. Fair enough if you don't want to be married anymore, and have fallen for somebody else. But the way she turned everything into Martin's fault, so he felt bad about it. She made him think that everything they ever had was worthless. I don't like that the writers destroyed such a good relationship.

Naomi isn't a great character. Carly is a nice person. But Martin and Sonia have a marriage which could just as easily be saved. They also have a child together, which is very important. I reckon they'll put them back together eventually, and they will leave the square as a family. Neither of them would want to be parted from their daughter.

Kim

01-06-2006, 15:32

I have to admit I didn't like them when they were a couple because Sonia was always moning and uninterested which made it boring to watch. After seeing the way they were with Rebecca last week, I would like to see them back together to make the storylines bearable viewing.

DaVeyWaVey

01-06-2006, 22:59

I think Sonia and Martin should get back together too, when Martin and Sonia first got together, i found it really unrealistic as Sonia had fallen in love with the man who accidentally killed her boyfriend, but eventually Martin and Sonia grew on me as a couple and i really liked them together, then Naomi got into the picture and it was really predictable that Naomi would split Sonia and Martin up, and that's what i think she has done, made Sonia and Martin grow further apart from each other until eventually they broke up, i really don't think Sonia is a lesbian and i am convinced she still has feelings for Martin, and after all, Rebecca is involved so the best thing for Martin and Sonia to do is get back together so Rebecca won't be caught up in endless feuds or custody battles.

littlemo

01-06-2006, 23:33

Yeah, Sonia should have realised what she'd be giving up if she went off with Naomi. It wasn't better than being married to a man as loving and supportive as Martin. They didn't talk to each other enough, I think that was the problem. Martin loved her so much, and tried his very best to support her choices. Until recently Sonia didn't realise that Martin knew what her favourite author was. She didn't see that Martin had been paying attention.

Sonia loved Martin. She said that if she went to college her feelings wouldn't change, and they did. It's horrible because they were so connected at one point. Thinking about that whole 'Sarah Stalker' thing, Sonia was so intent on keeping her marriage intact. She didn't care what Martin had done, she loved him enough to forgive, and was dedicated to him. Why did it have to change?

dddMac1

02-06-2006, 16:14

i am finding the storyline a bit boring but it would be better in Naomi was out of the Picture

Kim

02-06-2006, 16:38

I want them to get back together now as I find it boring when they keep meeting up to discuss their problems and Sonia obviously has the intention of a reunion when doing this.

littlemo

02-06-2006, 21:41

Lovely scenes tonight with Martin and Rebecca, very sweet. Nice little family. And Sonia's there for her as well. Rebecca's got a lot of people who love her.

eastenders mad

03-06-2006, 09:52

i loved the last scene last night when it looked all happy they they turned to pauline and Sonia then it went all sad very funny i thought.

I wonder how it is going to end

Dutchgirl

03-06-2006, 10:48

Well I think that Martin and Sonia should not salvage their marriage because of Rebecca, that wouldn't be fair on any of them! Maybe Martin will be happier with someone else, maybe Carly or not. Sonia thinks she is so intelligent and she has to think before she acts.

cappy

04-06-2006, 21:27

sarah21

05-06-2006, 16:34

I also agree. I don't think Martin and Sonia should get back together just because of their daughter. Martin seems much more happier without Sonia. I think Carly could make him happy. I'm glad Naomi dumped Sonia. She was clearly using Naomi.

I don't think Sonia was using Naomi and she proved that when she told her Granddad that she didn't know how she feels anymore. The girl is clearly confused and needs help and support. I'm a little disappointed in Martin not being able to help her. Yes, I know she has hurt him badly but it was Sonia who helped Martin when his life fell apart after killing Jamie. Without her, he wouldn't be the man he is now. Naomi behaved very badly when she threw Sonia out, the way she did it was nasty and callous. I hope that is over for good.

Sonia and Martin still have feelings for each other and I would like to see them work through their problems especially as Rebecca is now back permanently. Martin mentioned that he had to stay away from Sonia because the old feelings started to resurface when he was with her and he didn't want to be hurt again. Sonia needs time to sort herself out and get help to find out what she really wants and if it is Martin, she then needs to prove it to him. But with Carly around now, maybe it will be too late.

Kim

05-06-2006, 16:53

I don't think Sonia was using Naomi and she proved that when she told her Granddad that she didn't know how she feels anymore. The girl is clearly confused and needs help and support. I'm a little disappointed in Martin not being able to help her. Yes, I know she has hurt him badly but it was Sonia who helped Martin when his life fell apart after killing Jamie. Without her, he wouldn't be the man he is now. Naomi behaved very badly when she threw Sonia out, the way she did it was nasty and callous. I hope that is over for good.

Sonia and Martin still have feelings for each other and I would like to see them work through their problems especially as Rebecca is now back permanently. Martin mentioned that he had to stay away from Sonia because the old feelings started to resurface when he was with her and he didn't want to be hurt again. Sonia needs time to sort herself out and get help to find out what she really wants and if it is Martin, she then needs to prove it to him. But with Carly around now, maybe it will be too late.

I agree that Sonia needs help and support but I still think that she was using Naomi.

She had the help and support of her husband. Instead of concentrating on her marriage and career she became so obsessed with achieving her ambitions right away that she isolated him.

He wasn't happy with the way she was and who can blame him - ambitions are supposed to be things that you work towards, not achieve by the age of 21 as Sonia intended. She was so wrapped up in herself that she even blamed it on Martin!

So when she wanted to end her marriage but couldn't bear to be alone she just saw Naomi as a get out clause after the kisses they had shared, and used her.

Siobhan

05-06-2006, 17:00

I have to disagree about her using Naomi.. She has ambition and she was stuck with Martin who wanted to "sit in front of the TV" and his mother who side he always took.. He never stood up to his mother for her.. Sonia wanted excitment and love which she felt she wasn't getting and she got that from Naomi but I don't think she stopped loving Martin.
To use someone you have to get something out of it, what did Sonia get? no access to her daughter, a loads of crap of everyone about her breaking up her marriage.. She tried working on it but it didn't do any good.

I feel for Sonia, as she said on Friday, she is always there for everyone but who is there when she needs something.. Naomi excitment and Martin boredom just confused the girl.. I think if she had someone who was not either of them to talk to, she might have sorted something out. Naomi had a hidden agenda so she was clearly the wrong person for Sonia to open up too

littlemo

05-06-2006, 17:09

I do think she cared about Naomi. The problem is that she wants the best of both worlds. She thinks she can have it all, and obviously she can't! I can see why Naomi would be hurt about what happened. Sonia should make up her mind. But I think Naomi is quite a selfish person too, it's not her fault, she hasn't been married, and she's only got herself to look after. A while ago she asked Sonia what would happen if she had to choose between her and Rebecca, I don't think a mother would have done that. It's obvious who Sonia would choose!

I think Sonia should concentrate on Rebecca at the moment. Pauline is being a real cow to Sonia, and she has no right to dictate when she can see her own daughter. Martin knows Sonia is an important person in Rebecca's life, so I think they can work it out.

Siobhan

05-06-2006, 17:14

I have to agree with you about Naomi.. that is really stupid question to ask a parent, who would they choose??? Any parent would choose the child.
Pauline is just smug about the fact that martin has rebecca, she doesn't give a damn just as long as she has control over Sonia... Rebecca needs to have sonia around cause she will hate Martin and Pauline if she finds out Sonia is her real mum and they would let her see her...

Martin took the right step on friday not letting Pauline be there when he told Rebecca about Margaret.. Pauline has reared her kids, let Martin handle his own child

DaVeyWaVey

05-06-2006, 18:04

I really thought Naomi was really selfish to Sonia, Sonia was obviously dazed and confused over what she wanted and she needed support from Naomi but she didn't give it to her. Instead, Naomi pressurised her into making her mind up and challenged Sonia into choosing between her and her daughter, what a ridiculous question! Sonia would obviously choose her daughter, like you said any parent would! Naomi really doesn't understand.

Sonia does need help and support, she is dazed and confused but what she definetly wants is her daughter! I think if Sonia has time apart to think about what she really wants, her and Martin can work things out for their own sakes and for Rebecca's sake.

sarah21

05-06-2006, 22:59

I agree that Sonia needs help and support but I still think that she was using Naomi.

She had the help and support of her husband. Instead of concentrating on her marriage and career she became so obsessed with achieving her ambitions right away that she isolated him.

He wasn't happy with the way she was and who can blame him - ambitions are supposed to be things that you work towards, not achieve by the age of 21 as Sonia intended. She was so wrapped up in herself that she even blamed it on Martin!

So when she wanted to end her marriage but couldn't bear to be alone she just saw Naomi as a get out clause after the kisses they had shared, and used her.

I actually think Naomi came to Walford with the intention of breaking up Sonia and Martin. Right from day one, she told Sonia he wasn't good enough for her and poured scorn on him. Sonia did defend him at first and told Naomi to stop speaking about him like that. But Naomi did come to the squre to be with Sonia.

To be fair, Sonia did ask Martin to go to all the new places with her. He was the one who wanted to stay at home and watch the tv. She did try and get him to become involved with her new interests but he wouldn't, and I know that's because he felt insecure but he should have tried. Martin now wants a 'fun' relationship with Carly, it's a shame he didn't do that with Sonia.

I don't think for one minute that Sonia didn't want to be alone so used Naomi. I think she only left Martin because of her feelings for Naomi. Troulbe is she has confused her feelings of the love between two women friends and something more.

kinkybootz

05-06-2006, 23:59

yes i agree with you all it's getting very boring now. i wished pauline would keep her nose out and let sonia and martin bring rebecca up out of the square
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Kim

06-06-2006, 16:02

Wooo Joe's moving back in, that should shut her up a bit. I'd rather her going on about Bert than Sonia/Martin and Rebecca if she has to constantly moan.

Kim

27-06-2006, 17:23

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Chris_2k11

27-06-2006, 17:25

Do you know what i'm really gettin sick of all this.

lollymay

27-06-2006, 17:30

come on ee writers - change the subject - this has been running for 6 months!

Chris_2k11

27-06-2006, 17:43

come on ee writers - change the subject - this has been running for 6 months!More like 6 years :cartman: lol

Richie_lecturer

27-06-2006, 18:49

Didn't you know it's EE tradition by now to drive viewers away by these endless storylines which go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round for ages. :rolleyes:

crazygirl

27-06-2006, 18:55

it says in the tv guide that rebecca asks carley if she will be her mum!

cappy

27-06-2006, 19:02

wow! Bet Sonia won't be too pleased if she found out. I do feel sorry for her. Somehow I don't think Carly will feel ready to settle down as a proper family with Martin just yet. I do like Carly and Martin together though, I think they are very well suited.

Kim

27-06-2006, 20:50

it says in the tv guide that rebecca asks carley if she will be her mum!

Which TV guide is that in? Is there a full article about it?

BlackKat

27-06-2006, 21:04

I don't think she asks Carly to be her mum -- she asks Carly to be in the Mothers race at school sports day.

crazygirl

27-06-2006, 21:19

Which TV guide is that in? Is there a full article about it?i was in asda today and saw it on on the cover of 'whats on tv'

DaVeyWaVey

27-06-2006, 21:31

I don't think she asks Carly to be her mum -- she asks Carly to be in the Mothers race at school sports day.

Yeah that's right. I brought the what's on tv today and read the article, it said "Rebecca asks Carly to be her mum" It was very exaggerated...... Rebecca only asks Carly to take part in the Mothers race at school sports day like you said. A very misleading title!

sarah21

27-06-2006, 23:16

Didn't you know it's EE tradition by now to drive viewers away by these endless storylines which go round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round for ages. :rolleyes:

But this isn't going round and round, it is progressing nicely.

Chris_2k11

27-06-2006, 23:17

Well i'm sorry to say it's boring me to death.

sarah21

27-06-2006, 23:24

To each his own. I'm enjoying the character development that is happening here. EE does this very well.

crazygirl

28-06-2006, 14:13

i like martin and carly together i hope ee dont bring martin and sonia together again

littlemo

28-06-2006, 21:03

i like martin and carly together i hope ee dont bring martin and sonia together again

It doesn't seem like they are headed in that direction. I thought they would when they brought Rebecca back, but it seems not to be the case. I read an interview recently with the girl who plays Carly, and she said she'd just finished yet another kissing scene with James. They seem to be enjoying themselves.

I kind of want Carly and Martin to be together, but I don't like the fact that Pauline is so chuffed about it. And I heard Carly and Pauline are going to gang up on Sonia and I don't like that.

sarah21

28-06-2006, 21:48

It doesn't seem like they are headed in that direction. I thought they would when they brought Rebecca back, but it seems not to be the case. I read an interview recently with the girl who plays Carly, and she said she'd just finished yet another kissing scene with James. They seem to be enjoying themselves.

I kind of want Carly and Martin to be together, but I don't like the fact that Pauline is so chuffed about it. And I heard Carly and Pauline are going to gang up on Sonia and I don't like that.

There is far more drama to be had by not putting them back together - at least not yet. But apparently the splitting of Sonia and Martin has been extremely unpopular with the viewers so who knows?

I want Martin to stay with Carly. From what Kellie has said in interviews Carly is as much a bitch as Pauline in ganging up on Sonia. However, Carly will do what is best for Carly, she wants to have fun, not be a mother to someone elses child. Martin has been totally wrong introducing Rebecca to his latest conquest when her life has been in such turmoil. When Carly dumps him for being boring, which she will, the child will have to come to terms with another loss. Martin should've been nurturing the relationship with Rebecca and Sonia because Sonia would always be a stable influence in her life, but Martin is putting his love life first and of course, his mother ...

crazygirl

30-06-2006, 11:07

apparently sonia hits the drink big time!!!!

lollymay

30-06-2006, 12:40

i like matin and carly together - they make a good couple.

di marco

30-06-2006, 19:49

i breifly saw in one of the soap mags today that carly pretends that shes pregnant for some reason

Kim

12-07-2006, 19:55

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Kim

12-07-2006, 19:58

i breifly saw in one of the soap mags today that carly pretends that shes pregnant for some reason
I think that's because of the split, she dumps him so maybe she regrets it and uses that as an excuse to get back into his and Rebecca's lives.

Chris_2k11

12-07-2006, 20:52

Pinkbanana

12-07-2006, 21:43

Idiots at Elstree, they've completely ruined Sonia's character now. Well and truly destroyed the Sonia we all used to know and love. Nothing left for her now, that's it.

Shame on you producers, shame on you. :nono:

I totally agree with you there!!! Sonia use to be such a good character, one that you cared about. Now she is just pathetic and I cant bear to watch her when she comes on the screen. What they have done to her character is a complete disgrace.:mad:

sarah21

12-07-2006, 22:55

I think that's because of the split, she dumps him so maybe she regrets it and uses that as an excuse to get back into his and Rebecca's lives.

No, Carly pretended to be pregnant when she was being a complete cow with Pauline to deliberately upset Sonia.

Quote: Birks_2k4
Idiots at Elstree, they've completely ruined Sonia's character now. Well and truly destroyed the Sonia we all used to know and love. Nothing left for her now, that's it.

Shame on you producers, shame on you.

I totally agree with you there!!! Sonia use to be such a good character, one that you cared about. Now she is just pathetic and I cant bear to watch her when she comes on the screen. What they have done to her character is a complete disgrace.

I don't see it that way. Sonia has always felt unloved and thinks that everyone she cares about leaves her. She has had a terrible life starting with her mum leaving when she was 14, and the family falling apart. She gave up Chloe so that the baby could have a better life and Jamie died.

Unfortunately the problems of the past catch up eventually and this is what is happening. She is having a bit of a breakdown and her leaving Martin, going to be with Naomi and hitting the bottle are all part of the breakdown. Sonia has always had very strict rules for herself, she hates lying and cheating and would never behave this way if she was her normal self.

I think this is a very good storyline and Natalie is playing it fantastically. I don't think the character has been destroyed at all, it is part of her development. It is going to get a lot worse before it gets better ...

Kim

15-07-2006, 10:25

Read in The TV Mag that next week Phil has to swerve to avoid a sozzled Sonia. It looks like drink driving, she's already been drinking on the job so whatever next?

Babe14

15-07-2006, 10:45

Talk about complete character assassination! What is it with them who run things and destroying long established character's reps.

Sonia/Martin stroyline has gone on way to long and become boring. I used to like Sonia/Martin but the couple have been ruined. I quite like Martin being a single lad again but Sonia well she's just become patheitc. Well done Easties:)

Kim

15-07-2006, 10:50

Well he seems about 20 years younger since he's been separated. Hold on, he's only 20! He acts like a complete baby whenever he gets dumped.

Babe14

15-07-2006, 10:53

Well he seems about 20 years younger since he's been separated. Hold on, he's only 20! He acts like a complete baby whenever he gets dumped.

LOL! Yes Martin is the "sulky" type if he doesn't get his own way. At least he stand up to Pauline now. I used to enjoy the Martin/Asif days.

Kim

15-07-2006, 11:23

LOL! Yes Martin is the "sulky" type if he doesn't get his own way. At least he stand up to Pauline now. I used to enjoy the Martin/Asif days.

So did I. Yes they were a tad repetitive, but not half as bad as now. The character had some potential back then.

Babe14

15-07-2006, 11:26

So did I. Yes they were a tad repetitive, but not half as bad as now. The character had some potential back then.

Certainly did and so did Sonia. I loved the Martin/Sonia/Jamie storyline and poor Martin when he knocked over Jamie and killed him. However I hated him when he was being a prat with Asif after he had the one nighter with Sonia and was teasing her. I really enjoyed the epi when Asif and Martin went away somewhere (can't remember where it was now) and they were checking out the "naughty" clubs and just being typical lads.

eastenders mad

16-07-2006, 09:59

Maybe Martin should go away for awhile let things calm down a bit.

cappy

19-07-2006, 00:46

I don't think that Martin should leave. If anything I think Sonia shoiuld go away for a while to clear her head. She is clearly not coping. She should also not have turned to Gus in a romantic way so soon. It's all gonna end in tears.

JustJodi

19-07-2006, 13:12

Zzzzzzzzz! Is it just me or has anyone else completely had their guts-full of all this Sonia/Martin/Rebecca/Naomi business?!! :mad:

I have had my gut full of her since she left Martin for her lezbo lover.. now I am sick to death of the 4 of them Sonia/Martin/Rebecca and PAULINE,, time for them all to bow out, they have outlived their usefulness a longgggggg time ago......:banned:

Kim

19-07-2006, 14:21

Kim

02-08-2006, 11:50

Sonia is going to dump Gus next week so I think she will try and get Martin back after they get closer this week. :wall:

Babe14

02-08-2006, 11:55

Poor Gus I feel so sorry for him, why oh why does he keep doing it to himself. Surely he would of learnt to stay clear of Sonia by now espec given her recent behaviour. Sonia's character has really been destroyed first of all the constant rowing with Martin, leaving him and having a Lesbian realtionship, turned to the bottle, had sex with Gus what more can they do to the character.

I quite liked the scene with Phil a couple of weeks or so back where he tried to talk some sense into her. If anyone can spot the signs of a potential alcoholic it's Phil who of course has been there done that, got the T shirt etc.

Martin's character has been damaged to a certain extent, won't go into the reasons why I think so, but he is still likeable. I like him as a dad.

cappy

02-08-2006, 14:21

I also think that Martin is still a likeable character as a dad. Sonia's character has been totally destroyed. Altough Martin and Sonia get closer I don't think they should get back together. They should each move on and just agree on when to see their child. I feel too much has gone on for them to get back together.

littlemo

03-08-2006, 15:43

I'm glad Martin is becoming more willing to accept Sonia in Rebecca's life now. Lately he's been very hostile towards Sonia, because of her drinking which is understandable, but I kind of got the feeling that when he had Carly in his life he didn't feel like they needed Sonia but now he hasn't, he's ready to accept her again. I know Sonia's attitude played a part too, but I don't think he realised the extent to which he hurt her when he deprived her of Rebecca.

I expect his sudden turn around has something to do with Sonia putting her life back together. Otherwise it would be unjustified.

Happy Martin is trying with Sonia again, and gives Pauline an earful. She has no right to turn Rebecca against her mum. It's just not on!

DaVeyWaVey

05-08-2006, 18:33

I have a feeling that Sonia and Martin will get back together. Sonia does dump Gus this week and i feel so sorry for him as he genuinely had feelings for Sonia and Gus thought Sonia had the same feelings.

It would be a waste of time for Martin and Sonia to get back together though, this storyline would have gone around in circles. They split up, Sonia becomes a lesbian, she turns to drink and tries to get access of Rebecca and then she dates Gus and she gets back together with Martin again. It would just be pointless. They have split up and i think it should stay that way.

It's good that Martin is letting Sonia see Rebecca more now though, i think this storyline should conclude with Martin standing up to Pauline and Sonia finally having access to Rebecca along with Martin.

Paddy

07-08-2006, 11:25

I think they should get back together. One of the reasons it wasn't working between them was because of Pauline's interfering and Martin being incable of standing up to his mum, maybe when he stands up to her about Sonia's access to Rebecca it gives him a new front and makes him reliase the mother of his child and wife are more important than his mothers opinions.

crazygirl

10-08-2006, 00:12