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Richie_lecturer
20-05-2006, 21:08
Currently underway..

..and already Dennis Plankman has failed to pick up the sexiest male award. He lost out to Richard Fleeshman.

alan45
20-05-2006, 21:10
Obviously the voters have sorted out the wheat from the Chav

Richie_lecturer
20-05-2006, 21:50
Charlie Clements (Bradley Branning) has won an award.

BlackKat
20-05-2006, 21:58
The full list of winners is on Yahoo: Here (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/20052006/344/corrie-loses-top-soap-awards.html)

Layne
20-05-2006, 21:59
You beat me to it Kat :)


Corrie loses out in top soap awards

EastEnders trounced rival Coronation Street taking seven prizes at the British Soap Awards, including the coveted title of best show.

The ITV programme won just four, including a Lifetime Achievement Award for Johnny Briggs who played Mike Baldwin in the long-running series.

Among the awards going to Albert Square were Sexiest Female for Louisa Lytton, who plays troubled teenager Ruby Allen, and her screen father Billy Murray, who plays Johnny Allen won Villain of the Year.

The London-based show also won Best Actor and Best Actress for Ross Kemp (Grant Mitchell) and Lacey Turner (Stacey Slater). Best newcomer was the Square's Charlie Clements, who plays Bradley Branning, and the award for Best Single Episode also went to the programme for its Armistice Day edition.

Corrie had to settle for Sexiest Male for Richard Fleeshman (Craig Harris), Best Onscreen Partnership for Barbara Knox and Malcolm Hebden (Rita Sullivan and Norris Cole), and Best Dramatic Performance by Bradley Walsh as Danny Baldwin, as well as the award for Johnny Briggs.

The Special Achievement Award was given to soap director Tony Prescott, who has worked as a director on Emmerdale and Coronation Street.

Emmerdale picked up four awards.

They went to: Charlie Hardwick (Val Lambert) for Best Comedy Performance; Leah Bracknell (Zoe Tate) for Best Exit, and Nicola Wheeler (Nicola Blackstock) for Soap Bitch of the Year; and Spectacular Scene of the Year for Eden Taylor-Draper and Luke Tittensor as Belle Dingle and Daz Eden, being trapped in a mineshaft.

Two awards went to Hollyoaks, one for Ellis Hollins as Tom Cunningham, for Best Dramatic Performance from a Young Actor, and Best Storyline for Becca and Justin's affair, played by Ali Bastian and Chris Fountain.

Taken From Yahoo news http://uk.news.yahoo.com/20052006/344/corrie-loses-top-soap-awards.html

BlackKat
20-05-2006, 22:06
Half of them are a joke imo -- while Louisa's pretty she isn't anywhere near sexy. Ross Kemp's only been around about 3 months, and most of that's been the dire Jane/Grant storyline. If from what I've seen of Becca/Justin is anything to go by it's just Justin trying to cry and Becca droning on at him.


The ones I most agree with are -- Charlie Clements for Best Newcomer, Lacey's Best Actress, the Best Episode one. I'm not overly fussed about the Best Soap - EE was good last year so I'd have given it to them for that.

alan45
20-05-2006, 22:07
Johhny Allen best villan :rotfl:

Best Actor Ross Camp :rotfl:

Louisa Lytton Sexiest Actress :rotfl:

Best Actress Lacey Turner :rotfl:

I think these awards sum up the age and experience of the voters :rolleyes:

Richie_lecturer
20-05-2006, 22:10
Best show: EastEnders. :thumbsdow

Best actor: Ross Kemp (EE). :rolleyes:

Best actress:Lacey Turner (EE).

Sexiest Male: Richard Fleeshman (Corrie).

Sexiest female: Louisa Lytton (EE). :sick:

Villain of the Year: Billy Murray (EE). :confused:

Best newcomer: Charlie Clements (Bradley Branning) (EE).

Best Single Episode: Armistice Day with Alfie and Nana Moon (EE).

Best Onscreen Partnership: Barbara Knox and Malcolm Hebden (Corrie).

Best Dramatic Performance: Bradley Walsh (Corrie).

Lifetime Achievement Award: Johnny Briggs (Corrie).

Special Achievement Award: Tony Prescott (director, Emmerdale and Coronation Street).

Best comedy performance: Charlie Hardwick (Emmerdale).

Best exit: Leah Bracknell (Emmerdale).

Soap Bitch of the Year: Nicola Wheeler (Nicola Blackstock).

Spectacular Scene of the Year: Eden Taylor-Draper and Luke Tittensor (Belle and Daz, Emmerdale).

Best Dramatic Performance from a Young Actor: Ellis Hollins (Hollyoaks).

Best Storyline: Becca and Justin's affair (Ali Bastian and Chris Fountain, Hollyoaks).


As you can see, EE once again swept the board, probably in part, due to the tweenie vote. :rolleyes:

BlackKat
20-05-2006, 22:15
The shortlists are Here (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/20052006/344/winners-losers.html). Aren't much better.

alan45
20-05-2006, 22:16
[As you can see, EE once again swept the board, probably in part, due to the tweenie vote. :rolleyes: Yes only tween ies would vote children sexiest actor/actress

Layne
20-05-2006, 22:16
The ones I most agree with are -- Charlie Clements for Best Newcomer, Lacey's Best Actress, .

I totally agree, Lacye deffinatly deserved that award and i am glad she won it, also Charlie i think also deserved that award!
Urmm i suppose the best episode, and best soap was okay, but don't agree with the others

DaVeyWaVey
20-05-2006, 22:20
I am glad Charlie Clements won best newcomer he deserved it, and Lacey Turner definetly deserved best actress.
Well done to Johnny Briggs for the lifetime achievement award, i thought he might have won it because he was worked so well on Corrie and he deserved the award.
I wanted Tracy Ann Oberman (Chrissie) to win the best villain award. :(

Florijo
20-05-2006, 22:27
Louisa Lytton, Sexiest Actress? That is very disturbing, she looks about 12! :ninja: Ross Kemp as best actor is a joke, he's been pretty awful from what I have seen of him. Happy that Lacey and Charlie got an award. Thrilled about the two HO awards, especially the Justin and Becca one. Yay! :wub: :D

samantha nixon
20-05-2006, 22:31
i agree with some of them but i think they should have been
sexiest female - sarah jane dunn (yeah louissa is really pritty but sarah is prittier)
new comer - jenna louise coleman should have won
soap bitch - cant pick out of the other 3 but not nicola wheeler
storyline - either the mike one or the digging up den one

BlackKat
20-05-2006, 22:37
Y'know, if he wore a wig, Ross Kemp would be a dead ringer for the child catcher in this (http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=57666622&cdi=0) pic. /random.

alan45
20-05-2006, 22:41
Y'know, if he wore a wig, Ross Kemp would be a dead ringer for the child catcher in this (http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=57666622&cdi=0) pic. /random. Without the wig he looks like Shrek

alan45
20-05-2006, 22:56
Its nice to see a balanced lot of post on hhere about the daft soap awards unlike another board where the people with multiple accounts are making numerous posts agreeing with themselves. Doubtless these are the tweenies who made multiple votes to ensure that the soap most people agree is rubbish won the award

BlackKat
20-05-2006, 22:58
Without the wig he looks like Shrek

Oh Alan...see what you made me do? (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6017/shrek7wt.png)


*googles for pictures of the child catcher*

Richie_lecturer
20-05-2006, 23:01
Which one's Shrek then? :confused:

Bryan
20-05-2006, 23:06
BAFTAS was decided by a panel

Soap Awards was decided by the public

if Eastenders won both times then it shows that both the panels and the british public both agree: Eastenders is the best soap.

You can debate it till the end of days, but you should just congratulate them on winning the award. :)

Well done Eastenders on your SEVEN awards! :cheer:

Richie_lecturer
20-05-2006, 23:10
Well if the BAFTA's were so great, how come Emmerdale wasn't nominated last and this yeat, when arguably it had had its best years since the 90s. :confused:

Never mind, I'll congratulate EE nonetheless.

Chloe O'brien
20-05-2006, 23:30
I cant believe that nigel didn't win sexiest male :eek: I demand a recount :rotfl:

sarah21
20-05-2006, 23:54
I'm quite shocked that a little girl like Louisa won the sexiest actress. Actually, I'm probably more disturbed by that, unless the average voter was 10.

While I like Lacey Turner and think she is a failry good actress I don't think she deserved the best actress award. Her character is feisty and gobby, and it's easy to play someone like that. She is good, but not that good. Sue Cleaver should have won. But again, the average voter seems to have been 10.

Unfortunately the BSAs are now a complete joke. 5 years ago, there was a good mix of voting but now with the internet so popular, the voting is mostly done by very young people and the actors who deserve the awards are not even going to get nominated by their shows because they know they don't have a chance. And at the end of the day, the shows want to win.

Oh, I forgot. Ross Kemp, best actor. His return has been a big disappointment and the quality of his acting has been terrible. Not to mention it is an insult to the other actors on the show who have worked hard all year.

alan45
21-05-2006, 00:16
I'm quite shocked that a little girl like Louisa won the sexiest actress. Actually, I'm probably more disturbed by that, unless the average voter was 10.

While I like Lacey Turner and think she is a failry good actress I don't think she deserved the best actress award. Her character is feisty and gobby, and it's easy to play someone like that. She is good, but not that good. Sue Cleaver should have won. But again, the average voter seems to have been 10.

Unfortunately the BSAs are now a complete joke. 5 years ago, there was a good mix of voting but now with the internet so popular, the voting is mostly done by very young people and the actors who deserve the awards are not even going to get nominated by their shows because they know they don't have a chance. And at the end of the day, the shows want to win.

Oh, I forgot. Ross Kemp, best actor. His return has been a big disappointment and the quality of his acting has been terrible. Not to mention it is an insult to the other actors on the show who have worked hard all year. An excellent post. How on earth could anyone say Lacey is a better actress than 90% of th actors in the top three soaps The ten year olds are going to be in a load of trouble ehen their mummys find out they have been using premium rate phone lines to vote for the sexiest 14 yr old:nono:

Chris_2k11
21-05-2006, 00:32
Chuffed to bits about little Ellis Hollins winning an award. Well deserved. :)

di marco
21-05-2006, 08:25
Best actress:Lacey Turner (EE).

Best newcomer: Charlie Clements (Bradley Branning) (EE).

Best Single Episode: Armistice Day with Alfie and Nana Moon (EE).

Best Dramatic Performance from a Young Actor: Ellis Hollins (Hollyoaks).

i agree with those awards, although id have liked to have seen sarah dunn pick up best actress, i think lacey turner is a good actress and so i dont mind that she won it. im so glad little ellis won that award, hes so sweet! :)


Best actor: Ross Kemp (EE). :rolleyes:

Sexiest Male: Richard Fleeshman (Corrie).

Sexiest female: Louisa Lytton (EE). :sick:

Villain of the Year: Billy Murray (EE). :confused:

these awards i do not agree with, sexiest male and female should go to people a bit older, louisa might be sort of pretty but she doesnt even look her age so there is no way you can call her sexy! ross kemp is an ok actor but there are loads who are far better than him. i dont think billy murray should have got that award, johnny wasnt really that much of a villian, i would have liked to have seen warren brown pick up that award, the character of andy is who i would have called a villian!


Best show: EastEnders.

Best Storyline: Becca and Justin's affair (Ali Bastian and Chris Fountain, Hollyoaks).

hmmmmm these awards im not sure about, id have liked hollyoaks to have won best soap as its been fantastic for a while now, but i know realistically that would never happen, and seeing as ee is the only other soap i watch, id rather ee won it than corrie, even if it hasnt been that great recently. becca and justins affair has been a good storyline but im not sure whether it deserved to win or not

Chris_2k11
21-05-2006, 08:35
I agree about Warren Brown di marco. Completely robbed of that best villain award! :angry:

And can you believe Ruby won sexiest female over Mandy. :eek: :thumbsdow

di marco
21-05-2006, 08:37
I agree about Warren Brown di marco. Completely robbed of that best villain award! :angry:

And can you believe Ruby won sexiest female over Mandy. :eek: :thumbsdow

he was so robbed, he acted it brilliantly throughout and his character was actually a villian!
lol i thought youd say that! but yes sarah dunn is really pretty and doesnt look like a little kid so would actually have deserved to win the award

Chris_2k11
21-05-2006, 08:45
I'm also a bit disappointed Cassie Powney never won an award. :( She's been really good over the past year.

And it's a shame Sarah Dunn never won anything (cos this is going to be her last chance).

di marco
21-05-2006, 08:50
I'm also a bit disappointed Cassie Powney never won an award. :( She's been really good over the past year.

And it's a shame Sarah Dunn never won anything (cos this is going to be her last chance).

yeh cassie has been great as well, although i quite like the justin/becca storyine, i think that mels drinking problem and the date rapes were better storylines. it really is a shame sarah dunn didnt win anything, cos she a fantastic actress, depending on when shes leaving though, she might be nominated for next year, plus maybe the grace storyline might be nominated next year cos i think it was shown too late to be nominated this year

Em
21-05-2006, 09:31
I cant believe hollyoaks got best storyline for justin and becca over mikes illness!

Babe14
21-05-2006, 10:46
Well this just goes to show that the soaps are now catering for the "younger viewer" and not the "older" ones.
Give me a good ITV Drama/Murder Mystery/Detective, any day over the crappy soaps.

x Amby x
21-05-2006, 11:09
Im glad EastEnders won a lot, i can't believe Louisa Lytton won sexiest Female, i think Kara Tointon is way prettier than her. Im over the moon that Lacey Turner won best actress, she deserved it in my eyes!

Katy
21-05-2006, 12:00
2 awards for Hollyoaks, i think thats the most they have ever had. Sam Astin, move over its little Ellis' time to shine.

DaVeyWaVey
21-05-2006, 13:33
I am glad Lacey Turner won best actress and Charlie Clements won best newcomer, they both deserved those awards.
Also i am glad Johnny Briggs won lifetime achievement award, he was a great asset to Corrie so he really deserved that award and i kinda guessed he would get that award.....:)

chance
21-05-2006, 23:58
Johhny Allen best villan :rotfl:

Best Actor Ross Camp :rotfl:

Louisa Lytton Sexiest Actress :rotfl:

Best Actress Lacey Turner :rotfl:

I think these awards sum up the age and experience of the voters :rolleyes:

Its all one big joke,no way should any of those people got those awards,none of them deserved at all

callummc
22-05-2006, 01:01
I agree chance,i bet they all have big phone bills,voting for themselves probably,i also think that emmerdale has had the stronger storylnes this year and the acting has been better to,makes me wonder if i'm seeing the same show as anybody else,my loyalty usually goes ee way but the drivel i've seen this year does not deserve awards,ee winning the award will not help them improve cos now they will think that they are the best and continue to bore a lot of us,i dont understand how they can constantly lose in the ratings but still win awards

JustJodi
22-05-2006, 10:09
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Louisa was voted for the sexiest female :searchme: :lol: What a load of rubbish,,,,, shes too YOUNG to even be sexy,, if she was voted for being sexy cos of her relationship with Juley,, then this BSA should revamp their voting system !!!!!!!!!!!:wall: This was a kiddie vote obviously !!!

Florijo
22-05-2006, 11:13
Personally I think they should scrap the stupid Sexiest awards as they are a waste of time and change the voting system. Pubic voting shouldn't be allowed and it should all be done by a panel. That way there is no multiple voting, no tweenies voting for their favourite actor just because they fancy them and not because they are the best actor and a fairer chance for the lesser soaps to get some of the awards. IMO, Ross Kemp only get Best Actor cos he is in EE and that has a bigger fan base, same with alot of the other awards.

no1abbafan
22-05-2006, 12:24
Ross Kemp best actor - just about sums up what these awards mean, he has only been back a couple of months and his story lines weren't setting the world on fire, what an insult to the other actors on EE who week after week deliver on the rubbish scripts they have and this "nodding Gnome" walks off with the award.

tammyy2j
22-05-2006, 13:49
[QUOTE=Richie_lecturer]

Best actress:Lacey Turner (EE).


Best comedy performance: Charlie Hardwick (Emmerdale).


Best Dramatic Performance from a Young Actor: Ellis Hollins (Hollyoaks).
QUOTE]

I agree with these wins but i think Emmerdale should have won best soap and Sexiest Male Bill Ward

x Amby x
22-05-2006, 16:32
I cant believe Kara Tointon wasn't in the shirtlist for Sexiest Female! Haha none of the Corrie girls were either, but to be fair, Hollyoaks and EastEnders seem to have have sexiest cast!
Shortlist for sexiest Female:
Louisa Lytton- Pah!
Lacey Turner- Very Pretty
Sarah Dunn- Absolutly Stunning!
Roxanne McKee- Gorgeous

Dutchgirl
22-05-2006, 17:09
Well Lacey deserved her award I think she is a good actress, and Hilda Braid and Shane Ritchie deserved their award for the Best Single Episode for Armistice Day. I thought the episode was very moving. I really shed a tear there!

di marco
22-05-2006, 17:13
I cant believe Kara Tointon wasn't in the shirtlist for Sexiest Female! Haha none of the Corrie girls were either, but to be fair, Hollyoaks and EastEnders seem to have have sexiest cast!
Shortlist for sexiest Female:
Louisa Lytton- Pah!
Lacey Turner- Very Pretty
Sarah Dunn- Absolutly Stunning!
Roxanne McKee- Gorgeous

sarah dunn should have won that, but theyre all better than louisa. i dont think karas that pretty either tbh, well shes pretty but not as pretty as some of the others

BlackKat
22-05-2006, 17:46
From Louisa's interview on the BBC site:


Louisa, do you feel like the Sexiest Female?
No! This must be a joke!

Wow, those were almost my exact thoughts as well. :rolleyes:

Richie_lecturer
22-05-2006, 18:05
Did she also use the same quote for the rest of the awards? :rolleyes:

What a farce. Ross Kemp was only in EE for 11 episodes during the survey period, at the back end of last year. This is the final nail in the coffin for these awards, an absolute joke. These awards are prone to corruption, and they should be 18+ only. :readtheru

Abi
22-05-2006, 19:40
they should be 18+ only. :readtheru

Stereotyping all Teenagers are we?!

I'm actually prone to agree with you, as are a lot of teenagers. Sure there are a lot of obsessive teenage Eastenders fans, but keep it all in perspective! :rolleyes: Theres also a hell of a lot of us that aren't, thanks very much!

di marco
22-05-2006, 19:42
Stereotyping all Teenagers are we?!

I'm actually prone to agree with you, as are a lot of teenagers. Sure there are a lot of obsessive teenage Eastenders fans, but keep it all in perspective! :rolleyes: Theres also a hell of a lot of us that aren't, thanks very much!

yeh i agree abi, some teenagers are obsessive but not all of them, and im sure you could find a lot of stupid obsessive older people too

DaVeyWaVey
22-05-2006, 20:43
Stereotyping all Teenagers are we?!

I'm actually prone to agree with you, as are a lot of teenagers. Sure there are a lot of obsessive teenage Eastenders fans, but keep it all in perspective! :rolleyes: Theres also a hell of a lot of us that aren't, thanks very much!

I have to agree with you, Eastenders is my favourite soap but i thought Corrie and Emmerdale deserved to win most of the awards this year, i don't bother voting anyway, it's all one big farce!

Richie_lecturer
22-05-2006, 21:40
Sorry if I caused any offence, and the last thing I want to do is tar everyone with the same brush. :)
However it is often the under 16s who vote in abundance. These are the ones likely to multiple vote via web or phone. If there was some kind of age limit, it would go a long way to sorting the problem out, however I think these awards should be scrapped FULL STOP. They are a total joke. :angry:

Abi
22-05-2006, 21:45
Sorry if I caused any offence, and the last thing I want to do is tar everyone with the same brush. :)
However it is often the under 16s who vote in abundance. These are the ones likely to multiple vote via web or phone. If there was some kind of age limit, it would go a long way to sorting the problem out, however I think these awards should be scrapped FULL STOP. They are a total joke. :angry:

Its not a case of causing offence, i dont get offended by people stereotyping me, it happens all the time :rolleyes: :D

In a way, your right. People do multi-vote quite a lot, but there's a limit to the amount they can do it now. Websites log IP addresses, so they can't vote more then once, and Phone Lines are pretty similar. Sure, they can use other computers/phones, but they can't carry on doing that to such an extent, can they?! Generally- and i mean VERY- generally speaking, these must reflect a general view of the soaps, because of these loggings. Of course, theres always those obsessive few who'll vote as much as possible, but i for one find these awards interesting to see what the general view is. I dont think they should get scrapped, simply for that reason.

samantha nixon
22-05-2006, 21:48
why does it get assumed its just teenagers who vote loads adults might do aswell for sexiest female and male and stuff

Chris_2k11
22-05-2006, 22:07
I am a teenager myself and never in a million years would have voted for people like Ross Kemp as best actor, Bill Murray as best villain, etc. :)

alan45
22-05-2006, 22:35
why does it get assumed its just teenagers who vote loads adults might do aswell for sexiest female and male and stuff If us adults voted for sexiest female we sure as hell would not have voted for a kiddie like Louisa Lytton after all on EE we have sex goddesses like Big Mo, Fat Pat and Pauline Growler


I think Louisa must have gotten the paedo vote

x Amby x
23-05-2006, 18:38
Im a teenager too, i love EastEnders, but i think Hollyoaks deserved a lot of the awards like Best Actress for Sarah Dunn and Sexiest female should have o way gone to Louisa Lytton! Hollyoaks have tackled more interesting storyline than EastEnders. Hollyoaks are more realistic about them! But I'm still glad EastEnders came out on top!

Abi
23-05-2006, 18:59
If us adults voted for sexiest female we sure as hell would not have voted for a kiddie like Louisa Lytton after all on EE we have sex goddesses like Big Mo, Fat Pat and Pauline Growler


I think Louisa must have gotten the paedo vote

I'm assuming your referring just to awards which are 100% voted for by the public. A great deal of awards shows have shortlists made by a panel of judges, and then those 4 or 5 go through to a public vote. I think i'm pretty safe in saying that these wouldn't be "kiddies" as you say it, and in fact, this panel would be "mature" adults. Therefore you can hardly say the results are simply down to "kiddies" voting for people like Louisa, as if those "Sex Godesses" as you put it, were that popular, then they'd stand a chance when the "more mature" adults put them into the shortlist, wouldn't they?! :D

So the point i'm trying to make, is if you hold the same view as Alan here, then you can hardly disregard all award shows, because plenty of them are put down to 4 or 5 by ADULTS and not "kiddies"

DaVeyWaVey
23-05-2006, 19:24
Sorry if I caused any offence, and the last thing I want to do is tar everyone with the same brush. :)
However it is often the under 16s who vote in abundance. These are the ones likely to multiple vote via web or phone. If there was some kind of age limit, it would go a long way to sorting the problem out, however I think these awards should be scrapped FULL STOP. They are a total joke. :angry:

No offence taken. :) I have to agree with you though, the soap awards should be scrapped. I thought they were good at one time, but now they are a total farce, and i don't think they mean anything at all! Rant over! :D

alan45
24-05-2006, 19:11
The Daily Mirror's Jane Simon sums up the laughable British Soap Awards very well http://www.mirror.co.uk/tvandfilm/todaystv/tm_column_date=24052006-name_index.html

BRITISH SOAP AWARDS
24 May 2006
PICK OF THE DAY ITV1, 8PM
HA HA ha! Ross Kemp named Best Soap Actor? That's the best laugh EastEnders has come up with in years.

The only possible explanation for this travesty is that the award was actually for Baldest Actor but the paper was folded so the letters A, L and D were hidden from view.

It's the eighth year of the awards, voted for by an "expert panel of judges" who apparently decide these things by getting drunk and throwing darts at an old copy of the Radio Times. EastEnders went home from the bash with seven ill-deserved awards - including Best Soap, (voted `for by viewers) and - inexplicably - Sexiest Female for Louisa Lytton who plays hatchet-faced schoolgirl Ruby Allen.

Still, more by luck than judgment I suspect, two of the awards somehow ended up in the right hands - Corrie's brill Bradley Walsh for Best Dramatic Performance and Emmerdale's Charlie Hardwick who plays Val Lambert (Best Comedy Performance).

Phillip Schofield and Fern Britton are the hosts and while the awards may be a joke, the chance to see the winners and losers tarted up and playing up is not to be missed.

Abi
24-05-2006, 19:23
"expert panel of judges"

Expert panel of judges.... not "teenies"... how interesting...

:moonie: :rotfl:

alan45
24-05-2006, 19:39
Expert panel of judges.... not "teenies"... how interesting...

:moonie: :rotfl: You did of course observe the term expert panel of judges was contained in quotation marks '' '' which to me indicates an element of sarcasm. Maybe you should have read the remark in this context. :p

Abi
24-05-2006, 19:44
You did of course observe the term expert panel of judges was contained in quotation marks '' '' which to me indicates an element of sarcasm. Maybe you should have read the remark in this context. :p

Sarcasm maybe, but the fact remains. Whether they were "expert" or not (because, to me, that seems to be the sarcasm part of the remark) it was stilla PANEL OF JUDGES and not a public vote, according to this. So all those remarks about being simply down to the "teenies" vote, would go down the drain. Sarcasm, or not. :p

alan45
24-05-2006, 20:15
There is a difference between public votes and panel votes. Of the public votes EE won 5, Corrie one. The panel vote which was more representative of real viewers gave E'dale four Corrie three EE two and Hollyoaks one.

The rest of the votes were cast by the public which explains ridiculous happenings like Grant Mitchell getting best actor for appearing in half a dozen episodes.

Abi
24-05-2006, 20:26
You see, thats where i question what a lot of people have said in this thread. You yourself just said the panel's vote are representative of real viewers opinions. Well, if thats the case, then why scrap them?! If they're giving the awards to who the majority of people like/think deserve it, then whats so wrong with that?! You called these awards "daft" on one of your earlier posts, well if them awards are being given to those who deserve it, by the majority of the audience, then what part of that makes it daft?

I can understand people thinking the secist male/female is stupid. It is. Its pointless. But thats 2 awards, out of something like 18. 1/9. Thats, like only about 11% of the awards, so why should they be scrapped because of 11% of the awards?! Sure, get rid of them, but the whole thing?! Thats just stupid and pointless!

I'll be interested to see what you think.

Tamzi
24-05-2006, 22:10
I partly feel that these awards are starting to get a bit ridiculous. They need to scrap the Sexiest male/female award. What does it add to anything? Some of the winners this year seem to be a joke:

Best show: EastEnders (There was a time when it was good, but it doesn't deserve best soap anymore. It's time for it to go to Corrie or Emmerdale. Hollyoaks is slowly getting better too. Eastenders needs to improve or let another soap lead the way).

Best actor: Ross Kemp (EE) (He was hardly in the soap!!!!!! He did not deserve to win this for returning and being in a very boring storyline with Jane).

Best actress:Lacey Turner (EE) (She's good but there are better actressess out there)

Sexiest Male: Richard Fleeshman (Corrie) (Nice for someone else to get it apart from Nigel Harman! This award is a bit pointless though).

Sexiest female: Louisa Lytton (EE) (I am sure there is something wrong with her winnning it. Once again the award is a bit pointless).

Villain of the Year: Billy Murray (EE) (Ha Ha Ha! It should have gone to someone like Charlie Stubbs a.k.a Bill Ward. At least he was a more evil that Johnny Allen!)

Best newcomer: Charlie Clements (Bradley Branning) (EE) (Deserved).

Best Single Episode: Armistice Day with Alfie and Nana Moon (EE) (Deserved).

Best Onscreen Partnership: Barbara Knox and Malcolm Hebden (Corrie) (Deserved).

Best Dramatic Performance: Bradley Walsh (Corrie) (Deserved).

Lifetime Achievement Award: Johnny Briggs (Corrie) (There is no doubt that he deserved this).

Special Achievement Award: Tony Prescott (director, Emmerdale and Coronation Street) (Deserved).

Best comedy performance: Charlie Hardwick (Emmerdale). (Absolutely deserved)

Best exit: Leah Bracknell (Emmerdale). (Deserved)

Soap Bitch of the Year: Nicola Wheeler (Nicola Blackstock) (Deserved).

Spectacular Scene of the Year: Eden Taylor-Draper and Luke Tittensor (Belle and Daz, Emmerdale) (Deserved).

Best Dramatic Performance from a Young Actor: Ellis Hollins (Hollyoaks) (Nice to see it going to someone who isn't Natalie Cassidy or Sam Aston. He did deserve this).

Best Storyline: Becca and Justin's affair (Ali Bastian and Chris Fountain, Hollyoaks) (I'm sure there have been better storylines this year).

Overall I think some things needed to be sorted out with the BSA's. Some awards I feel were not deserved at all by the winners. Just my opinion.
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tammyy2j
25-05-2006, 10:50
After watching the show Val in Emmerdale was hilarious i'm really glad she won. Emmerdale should have won best soap not Eastenders. Little boy from Hollyoaks was adorable.

BlackKat
25-05-2006, 11:22
Anyone else see the 'Mitchells' faces when Becca/Justin won best storyline over the Mitchells return. :lol: I still don't think B/J deserved to win, but it was worth it just to see that. Some of the Corrie faces didn't seem too happy with some of the awards either. Or the guy that played the rapist in Hollyoaks.

Oh, and Louisa's little school girl giggle and running off the stage. Yeah, that was so sexy. :rolleyes: Still can't believe she won that, there is definitely something wrong there.

Xx-Vicky-xX
25-05-2006, 13:28
I thought Warren Brown should have won something for that week of the late night episode, he should have got the villan of the year he was much worse than Johnny.

Katy
25-05-2006, 16:39
Definatly i though that to, Warren Brown was excellent and he bothered to turn up for the awards.

Charlie Hardwick was funny when she took off her shoes and ran down the stairs to get the award. I loved her comment about Newcastle not getting any siverware this is for you. Her award was well and truely deserved.

I reckon, Nick Pickard should have got best actor, not noddy, i mean Ross Kemp, My dad went through them all, Cant act, Cant act Cant act, Cant act, Cant act, Cant act, can act, Overacts. And sexiest female definalty Roxanne Mckee, she looked stunning.

Chris_2k11
25-05-2006, 19:11
Some of the Corrie faces didn't seem too happy with some of the awards either. Or the guy that played the rapist in Hollyoaks.I don't blame the guy. He was completely robbed! How dare that other clown scoop the award! :angry:

Xx-Vicky-xX
25-05-2006, 20:22
I don't blame the guy. He was completely robbed! How dare that other clown scoop the award! :angry:

Totally Warren Brown should have got villan of the year, Andy was way nastier than Johnny

Jada-GDR
26-05-2006, 23:09
Totally Warren Brown should have got villan of the year, Andy was way nastier than Johnny i have to disagree with you there. he did, however, deserve best exit, which he didn't get :crying:

eastenders mad
27-05-2006, 10:05
i can't believe Charlie won best new comer he doesn't deserve it he can't act when he spoke for his speech i turned the volume right down.

Katy
27-05-2006, 10:12
I thought the best bit was the looks of the other soaps when Becca and Justins affair won best storyline, I dont think corrie could believe it, or Eastenders.

di marco
27-05-2006, 12:05
i have to disagree with you there. he did, however, deserve best exit, which he didn't get :crying:

no he was by far a better villian than johnny, but i have to agree his exit was great!

Chris_2k11
27-05-2006, 19:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5hq0ENNWqQ&search=hollyoaks%20awards

alan45
28-05-2006, 06:02
From Today's Sunday People

SOAP WHITEWASH
BUSHELL ON THE BOX
SO that's decided, then. EastEnders is our Best Soap.

Ross Kemp is Best Actor. And that moody little girl with the hunched shoulders and dowdy clothes is Sexiest Female.

Yeah, right. You waited in vain for Big Mo 'Arris to collect a gong for Shakespearean delivery. Or indeed, best performance by a character carved entirely out of balsa wood.

The British Soap Awards raise big questions. Not least: Who votes? Are any of them over 12? And is it too late to demand a recount?

Frankly, it's farcical. These results were so far-fetched, they made the Da Vinci Code seem like a documentary

Billy Murray won Villain Of The Year for a period when the great Johnny Allen was watered down and ruined. While Ross Kemp seems to have got his gong for best delivery of the words " 'Allo, mum." OK, it's good to see him back, and if there was an award going for Best Pop-Eyed, Wobbly-Headed Performance In A Deteriorating Character, then Ross's name would be on it, emblazoned in gold, no question.

But Best Actor? Ye Gods! Biggest Let-Down is nearer the mark. All Grant fans must be gutted by the way the big lug has been rewritten. It's like expecting Denis Leary and getting Les Dennis.

The whole evening was a washout. There was no suspense, as all the results were revealed four days earlier. No decent acceptance speeches. And Phil and Fern were a poor substitute for Paul O'Grady.

Although to her credit Fern did gamely go for laughs by sporting what appeared to be the nest of a disturbed albatross on her head. Lacey Turner and Charlie Clements deserved to win, but the seven-award landslide for EastEnders was worse than unfair: It sends BBC1 the clear message that they are actually getting away with this cack.

GRANTED Corrie hasn't had much of a year either, but it is consistently wittier and better-written than its wretched southern rival.

Well done to Bradley Walsh, Malcolm Hebden and co. But where were the accolades for brilliant Maggie "Blanche" Jones, Kate Ford :rolleyes: or Amber actress Nikki Patel?

Rather than honour the best in soaps, these joke awards devalue them.

ITV needs to RE-THINK the voting system. Book a FUNNY host (Harry Hill!). And televise the night LIVE.

Better still, cut down on the quantity of soaps broadcast. This would a) improve their quality, and b) free up prime time for some much-needed laughter.

HARRY HILL: "The Soap Awards are the highest accolade in the soap-related awards calendar' second only to Crafts."


Apart from thinking Kate Ford deserves anything I think Garry has it just about right:clap:

Florijo
28-05-2006, 09:46
The British Soap Awards raise big questions. Not least: Who votes? Are any of them over 12? And is it too late to demand a recount?

How does that explain how Corrie won eight (I think, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) awards last year? I don't agree with some of the awards but I don't buy this reason as it makes it sound as though only mature over 12's voted last year for Corrie, yet this year, cos EE got more awards, they only got them because of the tweenie vote. If the tweenies multiple voted this year then it is highly likely the same happened last year.

alan45
28-05-2006, 14:10
You will find if you care to check all the results for previous years is that EE nearly always wins the votes which are made by the voting public whereas the votes by the panel are more reflective od true opinion. At least they watch episodes of all the nominated programmes.

There are the awards that get voted for by the public (Best Actor / Actress, Sexiest Male / Female, Best Soap, Best Bitch) and the rest of the categories that get voted for by the panel.

Hence in the last 8 yrs EE has wone Best Actor 7 times Best Actress 6 times Sexiest Male 7 times Sexiest Female 7 times

Of the 8 awards Corrie got 1n 2005 only 3 were from public votes


Statistics can be quoted and manipulated by anyone to prove or disprove any argument.

It is a fact that over the last few years that EE has been aimed at a younger audience which can be seen by the fact that older viewers who have watched EE since the start are now turning off in droves. The quality of acting/scripts and storylines have fallen over the last few years and there is no need for me to repeat on here some of the more ridiculous offerings we have had. The transformation of characters and the constant coming and going of its so called stars have not helped much either.

BlackKat
28-05-2006, 14:26
I don't think either the panel or the public vote can be said to be a true opinion.

Lets say for arguments sake that the panel thinks EE (or indeed any soap just using EE as an example) deserve all the panel awards. Then the public awards all go to EE as well. Obviously they're never going to give all the awards to one soap. While some of the awards do go to a deserving winner I think part of it is to give everyone an award.

Not to mention the panel will have their own biases -- not even through any fault of their own, any person is going to have their favourite soap and their favourite characters. I don't enjoy Coronation Street so if I was on the panel I'd have a hard time looking past that to see the good storylines and the good actors (which I'm sure there are) because it just doesn't appeal to me. And I think that would go for anyone.

Dutchgirl
28-05-2006, 15:38
So Alan 45 did you vote? And if no, you cannot have an opinion, as it goes for everyone who didn't vote,you could have made a difference! And if yes, then at least there was someone over 12.

Florijo
28-05-2006, 15:59
I didn't realise about the difference between the number of public/panel voted awards for EE and Corrie. That does make that point more valid then, I agree. I personally think all awards should be panel voted for by a wide number of panel members, no public voting not even for Best Soap. There would still be bias etc but it would be much fairer. At the moment, a good actor on a smaller soap has little chance of winning a Best Actor/Actress award because they just don't have the fan base yet they lose out to someone like Ross Kemp because he happens to be in EastEnders.

Richie_lecturer
28-05-2006, 19:36
Well said I agree.

They should also scrap these 'sexiest' awards as well. These just prove what a joke these awards are. :thumbsdow

alan45
28-05-2006, 21:05
So Alan 45 did you vote? And if no, you cannot have an opinion, as it goes for everyone who didn't vote,you could have made a difference! And if yes, then at least there was someone over 12. Whether I voted or not I can still have an opinion. I didnt say that no-one over 12 years of age voted but judiging by the votes they certainly were in the majority. I agree with the previous poster who said that there should be no public vote. Its so open to manipulation and multiple voting.

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31-05-2006, 16:40
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