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After reading some of the discussions about moving one of the threads in here to make it available to everyone i would just like to ask the older members of the forum if they think the whole forum should be made for over 16's only.
Obviously is NB's choice but i was just wondering what everyone else thinks???
I agree 100% or else this board will degenerate into the BBC boards and we all know what happened there. Some of the younger posters on here make great posts but there are several others who post just for the sake of it and make no sense nor add anything to the discussion. It seems unfair to tar all the under 16s with the same brush because of the irresponsible behaviour of a few
Richie_lecturer
29-01-2006, 17:40
Good idea. :)
i agree that it does seem unfair to tar some of the good 16's posters but other do ruin it for them
i totally agree
the past month i have biten my lip but in this forum i shall let it out!
this bored is plagued with the pointless "yeah i no" "lol" posters...who contribute notthing to thgese boards! and they are all under 16s...
look at the mature members: Jodi, Alan, Luna, Ems (the list could go on, im just using a few as an example) they have valid points to make, constuctive comments and mature posts...
the under 16s are too immature, they are forever breaking petty rules such as text talk, duplicate threads, going off topic, and when they get warned/alerted you get a mouthful of cheak and verbal backlash...
in respond to the question of the thread yes it should be over 16s! but then again there are a few (and only a few) exceptions to the rule as i think Layne and Abi are both mature posters and thats the only reason id say no to a 16+ forum
what id say is a 16+ forum with exceptions made to approved members#
sorry for the rant guys!
glad you got that off your chest :D and i totally agree with you
di marco
29-01-2006, 17:48
how would that work though, i mean surely people could just lie about their age?
how would that work though, i mean surely people could just lie about their age?
They could but then again two of the biggest offenders have already given their ages
hmmm that a tricky one as some of theunder 16s are ok!! today they seem to have gone a bit loopy and so maybe ot would be good but then most days they are ok1 the lol uh huh posts are a pain though!! although on saying that in the past i havebeen guilty of a few of them post my self
i am part of another forum who can monitor peoples ages some parts of it are over 18s and you have to register to get onto that part of it and somehow (dont ask me how) but they can tell if they are lying about their age
Angeltigger
29-01-2006, 17:57
I think that people over 16 should have there own space as they can talk about move grow up stuff. I never said things like stuff that people would use on their texts- it can get on people nerves
its not necessarily the age that is the problem more the maturity of members and quality of posts...i cant count a few on my two hands of members under 16 that can be mature and contribute good posts to the boards
there are mature under 16s like bondboffin said, with people that have been on regularly since last year i think it would be difficult to say they wernt allowed on anymore. Maybe if the forum only allowed over 16s in to new members, but syaing that it doesnt solve the problem.
In answer to the text talk problem would stricter warnings and bans not go a miss more alerts for example.
Chloe O'brien
29-01-2006, 18:01
i think its a shame that under 16's should be prevented from using the boards just because of a few who abuse the rules. Maybe you could put them on a trial basis for a time to begin with that way you may be able to spot the ones who break the rules
di marco
29-01-2006, 18:02
In answer to the text talk problem would stricter warnings and bans not go a miss more alerts for example.
thats a good idea, maybe if you try to temporary ban them for a few days they will start to get the message?
i think its a shame that under 16's should be prevented from using the boards just because of a few who abuse the rules. Maybe you could put them on a trial basis for a time to begin with that way you may be able to spot the ones who break the rules
thats a good idea, a trial basis would be a good idea
With a ban if they really appreciate the boards then they will not want to be banned in the future, so are less likely to do it again as they want to come back. By having a trial do you mean keeping an eye on them for a certain time or banning them for a certain.
Maybe by removing a thousand posts at a time as a punishment they would get the hint
Chris_2k11
29-01-2006, 18:12
hmm... im just glad im actually 16 and not under!
hmm... im just glad im actually 16 and not under!
huh??? sorry having a thick day
thats another idea, what about more restrictions due to post count, maybe that could work.
I was also thinking that im glad to be 16. I dont ubnderstand whats been going on today.
there are mature under 16s like bondboffin said, with people that have been on regularly since last year i think it would be difficult to say they wernt allowed on anymore. Maybe if the forum only allowed over 16s in to new members, but syaing that it doesnt solve the problem.
In answer to the text talk problem would stricter warnings and bans not go a miss more alerts for example.
the fact is the majorirty of under 16s do it frequently, and why should we spend all our time warning/alerting people when we come on hear to enjoy oursleves and discuss soap/dramas that we enjoy
the fact of the matter is if it were to be a 16+ site then the problem would be iradicated (sp?)
i think its a shame that under 16's should be prevented from using the boards just because of a few who abuse the rules. Maybe you could put them on a trial basis for a time to begin with that way you may be able to spot the ones who break the rules
in my opinion its reversed...theres a few that dont abuse the rules..and the rest do...
im sick to the back teeth of duplcicate threads, unconstructive posts, spamming, pointless posts and text talk!
and as for quality of post and opinions the MAJORITY (and not all may i add) have the basis that "fitness" goes before "acting", and "love stories" go before "storylines" and a shows "history". The under 16's are the kind that obsess over shannis and jakissie etc... and i mean when your a teenager your opinions and ideals are different to more mature members
in a way it seems unfair to tagret them for being young, but its the fact that old and young clash on these boards...its either a case of removing youngers or creating a seperate site for olders
i suppose. Its not fair on you lot who do a great job keeping everything safe. It is somewhere everyone to enjoy not a cyber babysitting forum. a 16 + site would get rid of the problem, but its the problem of how we/you put that into action.
Chris_2k11
29-01-2006, 18:22
Yeah but even though we're actually 16, I feel as if they're getting at us 16 year olds too... :o
i didnt start the thread to get at anyone i was just wondering what other peoples opinions where
i know what you mean. I cant get my head around why people have gone awol today. Its not really ever happened before i dont think. I can understand why it needs to get sorted as we dont want a repeat of what happened on the bbc boards.
thats another idea, what about more restrictions due to post count, maybe that could work.
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The problem there is that they would continue to post loadsaposts just to get to the magic level. After all just check out some of their post counts
The problem there is that they would continue to post loadsaposts just to get to the magic level. After all just check out some of their post counts
johnny allen and ritchie lecturer have only just got 1000 plus status due to the fact they only posts quality and constructive posts!
some of the "yeah i no" posters etc get to 1000 plus status in a month or so
lollymay
29-01-2006, 18:30
it took me ages to get to 1000 posts. but the one thing ill say is im under 16 (just) and i try not to do the 'lol posts' as i think they are pretty pointless.
that is a point that i think of regularly (sp) i cant understand how everyone gets 5000 posts 8000 posts etc when i have only got 2000 which has taken an age.
he main reason i love this board is the constructive posts of posters and everyones different opinions.
i have over 6000 post and i dont spam - well i hope i dont
and i hope im not classsed as a spammer either!!!
Chris_2k11
29-01-2006, 18:43
and i hope im not classsed as a spammer either!!!and me!!
squillyfer
29-01-2006, 18:45
It took me ages to get to 1000 posts and my average post count isnt stupidly high, the thing is you cant just blame under 16's there are a lot of older users who dont follow the rules we dont need an age restriction we need tighter rules
I think the board should stay,as it is, with the adults only thread.I too get annoyed,when I have written a long post and get a text reply or they repeat what I have said,Most of the younger posters on here add alot to the board,and they should'nt be banned, for the odd troublesome person.I think a post reduction for people that text talk etc. should sort it out.I chat to a few people off this board and they are very well versed,and mature for their age.I think the repeated thread thing can be difficult a times,I have done it once myself, it depends which,wording you are using.if it differs to the original thread,then you find no thread so you post. It is not all down to people not checking. I think we should keep the younger members and not get so ageist,what next I am going to be classed at 51 too old. To talk about pop groups,or fashion. Lets think carefully on this one.
Behemoth
29-01-2006, 20:20
Moved to 'General Discussion' by request.
i have asked for this thread to be moved so ALL members can access and reply. Apparently this has caused a lot of upset on the boards but i was just asking for peoples opinions as it had been brought up in another thread. If anyone wishes for this thread to be closed please say so.
May i also say that this thread has nothing to do with NB and as far as i know he has no plans to make this forum an over 16's only again this is just about personal opinion
and yet again can i just say that we dont want the under 16's...how was it put??? "chucked off the boards"
i have asked for this thread to be moved so ALL members can access and reply. Apparently this has caused a lot of upset on the boards but i was just asking for peoples opinions as it had been brought up in another thread. If anyone wishes for this thread to be closed please say so.
May i also say that this thread has nothing to do with NB and as far as i know he has no plans to make this forum an over 16's only again this is just about personal opinion Thanks for clearing this up.Some of the under 16's did get upset,due to some off the replies. and started to panic,and think no one liked them, this has settled down again. now.
I dunno if this would be a good idea. My side is pretty biased because I'm under 16 but it probably would be a good idea because most under 16's are immature on boards. But many regular posters like ~ Clo ~ are under 16 but are mature on the boards.
Am I spammer, please tell!
i don't think its a good idea- although i am biased, there are some people on here that do abuse the rules, and give us all a bad name. thats all i will say.
I really don't know what this is all about but it think i'm not sayin i know i'm really guessing that most people on the boards are unders 16 so really that wouldn't be fair but i have to agree with lisamaxwell fan some people do give us a bad name and some of them are my friends so if you read this i don't mean anything by it.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
29-01-2006, 21:33
I think some of you Over 16's are being very harsh to us Under 16's!! I thought some of you on here were very nice but clearly after today some of you know how my 'not nice' side shall we say is. I also know how some other member's side on here too. Being Under 16 myself I do not want this to happen seeing as I spend most my free time here. I given alot to this board.. and no not just trouble :p I think this board seems to move around and not just stick to one rule..
The Under 16's seem to be getting 'told off' for things. Perfectly fine we all make mistakes and that's why we get alerts and warnings. But then there are other senior members who are getting away with certain things in their own way. I would obviously say this but then you would all come back out to me because I offended you. Well your offending us in many ways too!! I could choose to fight back but Im not because Im bound to get banned for certain reasons!! I got alot to say and as it comes I will say it!!
Edited:
look at the mature members: Jodi, Alan, Luna, Ems (the list could go on, im just using a few as an example) they have valid points to make, constuctive comments and mature posts...
Mature?! :rotfl: Your making me laugh!! I recongised alot of things that some other member's don't see!! :rotfl:
the under 16s are too immature, they are forever breaking petty rules such as text talk, duplicate threads, going off topic, and when they get warned/alerted you get a mouthful of cheak and verbal backlash...
Clearly your talking about me with the cheek and stuff.. Im just explaining myself like I am here but clearly right now Im 'backlashing'
Hope I can sign on tomorrow after sharing my views.
Firstly, let me make a few things clear:
1. Luna has every right to start this thread and its a question that has been asked by many members.
2. We get a lot of users from other sites (esp DS) who simply won't post as they are sick and tired of the 'kiddy replies'
3. I will not tolerate abuse directed at any of the mods or members on this board.
We did consider making this forum 18+, forget 16+. But then we thought it would be totally unfair to the members under 16 who contribute valid discussion to this forum. So instead we decided to enforce the rules of the forums as well as opening the forums to attract a more mature audience.
However, as I have been privy to actions by members of soapboards today, words can't express my disgust at the actions and suggestions made by certain members.
Oh my, I guess I missed something at the weekend!
I am a mature person. I don't object to sensible under 16s (in fact I have 2 of them at home). If someone posts a load of rubbish I am quite happy to ignore it.
If on the other hand people (of any age) are spamming, breaking rules etc then they should be warned, and post reduction would seen to be a logical punishment for spamming.
I missed it all too Trinity.. I can see that there is a need to punish immature posting.. replying LOL or "i no" in a post does not add anything to the content of the thread
however, not all under 16's are immature and making this over 16's only will stop them coming on and adding their point of view. I don't think the rules are that harsh. I can understand the no text talk rule cause I would be hopeless lost on many posts if they were in text talk. And I also like the "pointless threads" rule.. why add a post to a thread if it is totally pointless..
I am not saying all under 16's are immature but there seems to be a lot of rule breaking on the site which can't go unnoticed
In general I like knowing the opinions of under 16s - maybe it even helps me understand my kids better? Certainly I agree that they are entitled to their opinion. With regards to the spamming. Maybe part of the problem is the 'reward' for high posting? Maybe people could be rewarded for 'active service' instead?
Chris_2k11
30-01-2006, 13:24
Maybe there should be a new rule where you have to put a certain amount of writing in your posts, otherwise it wont count towards your post count. For example, just saying 'lol' or 'yeah I know' wouldn't count towards your post count because it's not enough text and therefore you would have to write more for it to count.
I know it sounds a bit silly but anyway, it's just a thought... :searchme: :)
pops110874
30-01-2006, 13:29
I think it would probably be a little unfair to ban under 16s, people over 16 are just as likely to spam.
Maybe its down to experienced users to let the mods and users know when someone is spamming.
A 15 year old might think there is nothing wrong with a pointless reply like "i know" or "lol"
Is it a question of awareness?
big bro fan
30-01-2006, 13:58
i'm under sixteen if i have ever been imiture then i apologise.
i'm under sixteen if i have ever been imiture then i apologise.
Big bro fan, it is not just the immaturity, it is the blatant disregard for basic rules that is cause this fuss... You, so far, haven't broken any, you would have been warned.
Certain priviledges comes with number of posts so some people just type lol or put in a smilie to clock up post numbers in order to get things like banners, use of shout box and PM service..
I really think that one of the main problems is people posting just to get high postnumbers. Stupid things like wishing someone a happy birthday or telling them their latest banner is cooooooooll are in my opinion just used as devices to boost post numbers. I prefer to see something constructive or at least witty and amusing. As I said earlier there are a number of under sixteens who regularly post great posts on this board and it would be unfair to class them the same as their peers un make mindless and inane posts. No age limit but get rid of the silly posters
Looking at the boards, there are hardly any complaints in the Fan Art and Banners sections which is an area where the majority of posters are teenagers.
On the rest of the boards the audience is mixed and it is irratating to a lot of members when irrelevant and silly posts are made. That is what we are trying to cut down on. Nobody on soapboards jumps down your throat if you're under 16. Its only when text talk or spam is posted that members get annoyed.
pops110874
30-01-2006, 14:39
Do you think this might help with the awareness?
What about including a summary of the basic rules on threads?
eg
1. No text talk
2. No pointless short posts
3. All posts must be relevant to the thread topic
Wouldnt take up that much room but it might help - some people dont seem to know if they are spamming or not.
Behemoth
30-01-2006, 14:42
Do you think this might help with the awareness?
What about including a summary of the basic rules on threads?
eg
1. No text talk
2. No pointless short posts
3. All posts must be relevant to the thread topic
Wouldnt take up that much room but it might help - some people dont seem to know if they are spamming or not. This thread (http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=43267) explains it all.
di marco
30-01-2006, 15:50
in reply to your earlier post spicy, i dont think its always what you say that gets you told off, its sometimes how you say it
Angeltigger
30-01-2006, 15:53
johnny allen and ritchie lecturer have only just got 1000 plus status due to the fact they only posts quality and constructive posts!
some of the "yeah i no" posters etc get to 1000 plus status in a month or soi did good post to get my 1000 posts
i agree with what people are saying but some of the under 16's are mature and it would not be fair on them to put an age limit on the site
Angeltigger
30-01-2006, 16:02
well i don't really know like more people have said there are people who are 16 who do not break the rules- but it very hard to post the right stuff- also people talk in text talk as that what they know- somepeople say laugh out loud in code and that is all as that all they can see- like with me when i moved and come on-line but had nothing to say people had a go at me as i had nothing to say.
well i don't really know like more people have said there are people who are 16 who do not break the rules- but it very hard to post the right stuff- also people talk in text talk as that what they know- somepeople say laugh out loud in code and that is all as that all they can see- like with me when i moved and come on-line but had nothing to say people had a go at me as i had nothing to say.
If you have nothing to say on an issue, don't post!!! it is as simple as that. How can you say anything constructive about something you know nothing about.. LOL or I no are not constructive and are pointless...
well i don't really know like more people have said there are people who are 16 who do not break the rules- but it very hard to post the right stuff- also people talk in text talk as that what they know- somepeople say laugh out loud in code and that is all as that all they can see- like with me when i moved and come on-line but had nothing to say people had a go at me as i had nothing to say.
I have never heard anyone actually speak in text talk
Without appearing rude what are you trying to say here. You say that when you had nothing to say people had a go at you because you had nothing to say. Im sorry I just do not understand.
Angeltigger
30-01-2006, 16:15
I have never heard anyone actually speak in text talk
Without appearing rude what are you trying to say here. You say that when you had nothing to say people had a go at you because you had nothing to say. Im sorry I just do not understand. Yeah as that is what happened- i know what i know and you know what you know.
Angeltigger
30-01-2006, 16:15
If you have nothing to say on an issue, don't post!!! it is as simple as that. How can you say anything constructive about something you know nothing about.. LOL or I no are not constructive and are pointless...i know that is pointless- but sometime that all they have to say.
i know that is pointless- but sometime that all they have to say.
I think that that is Siobhan's point. Post because you have something to say, not to let us all know that you have read the thread!
It is not compulsory to post
i know that is pointless- but sometime that all they have to say.
The rules state that no-one should make POINTLESS POSTS. This rule applies to everyone.
Angeltigger
30-01-2006, 16:26
Yes I understand everyone
Behemoth
30-01-2006, 16:26
i know that is pointless- but sometime that all they have to say. Not having anything to say does not justify posting something pointless. Like Trinity said, posting isn't compulsory.
Not having anything to say does not justify posting something pointless. Like Trinity said, posting isn't compulsory.
Totally agree.. I have never posted in many of the forum/threads on this board cause a) I don't watch the program or b) I have nothing to say on the subject. The amount of time I spend on these boards and could have posted "lol" or "I no" post, I would be in 10,000 post by now. But the point of these boards, I assume the point is, to talk/discuss things in a rational and friendly manner or to post on something you feel strongly about..
Angeltigger
30-01-2006, 16:41
yes i do understand- so i shall be quite
the only time i post little things like well done etc is in the scripts forum as i think the writers deserve praise for their hard work.
how about if people want to get to the magic number of posts, let them buy rewards that are equal to 10, 20 posts with their petz money?
.:SpIcYsPy:.
30-01-2006, 17:02
in reply to your earlier post spicy, i dont think its always what you say that gets you told off, its sometimes how you say it
Yes I see what you are saying but then again you can't expres the way your saying stuff over the net.. say the way I could be saying this could be constructively said or maybe shouting back at you because your replying or something :searchme: Did you understand that by any chance?.. :hmm:
~charlie-lou~
30-01-2006, 17:02
Does that mean that those of us who are under 16 will no longer be able to post here?
Angeltigger
30-01-2006, 17:04
No the under 16 can still post- it just the older people want their own space (i'm not part of it) where they don't have under 16 people talking
I think there should be a place where over 16's can post. A lot of people are getting upset. I don't want to be banned
Hopefully everyone will come to a conclusion soon
No the under 16 can still post- it just the older people want their own space (i'm not part of it) where they don't have under 16 people talking
Please read the entire thread. The problem is with POINTLESS POSTS, TEXT TALK and silly LOL posts. No-one wants to ban all the under 16s but it has been pointed out that they are the biggest offenders regarding rule breaking
No the under 16 can still post- it just the older people want their own space (i'm not part of it) where they don't have under 16 people talking
Eh?
Anyone can post. All were asking is for some common sense before you post. Ever heard of "don't put your mouth into motion before your brain is in gear"? That's all we are asking. Think before you post.
Yes I see what you are saying but then again you can't expres the way your saying stuff over the net.. say the way I could be saying this could be constructively said or maybe shouting back at you because your replying or something :searchme: Did you understand that by any chance?.. :hmm:
I think you went to far with your apparent threats and insults
Well your offending us in many ways too!! I could choose to fight back but Im not because Im bound to get banned for certain reasons!! I got alot to say and as it comes I will say it!!
.:SpIcYsPy:.
30-01-2006, 17:12
I think there should be a place where over 16's can post. A lot of people are getting upset. I don't want to be banned
Hopefully everyone will come to a conclusion soon
There is a place where Over 16's can post.. you just can't see it as you need a 1,000 posts :)
this whole thread has become stupid, last night we were talking about improvements to the boards and now everyones getting at one another.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
30-01-2006, 17:13
I think you went to far with your apparent threats and insults
Sorry.. shall I edit it?
Sorry.. shall I edit it?
You already edited it once and made it worse. I think the damage has been done, DONT YOU?
.:SpIcYsPy:.
30-01-2006, 17:18
You already edited it once and made it worse. I think the damage has been done, DONT YOU?
Yeah guess so..
this whole thread has become stupid, last night we were talking about improvements to the boards and now everyones getting at one another.
yup, I'd agree.
Closing.
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