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dragoneye454
16-01-2006, 08:53
Was told they had the spoiler of who killed dennis so sent a txt to them asking and here's what I got back:
Dennis Rickman's killer in Eastenders is revealed as Danny Moon, but he won't pay 4 his crime- his brother Jake kills him
Just like to be the first one to say oh my God!!
crazygirl
16-01-2006, 09:43
why would johnny phone danny to kill dennis
well if that is true it is the silliest thingi have ever heard. why eould danny come back just to kill dennis for jhonny?? dosent make sense, nope i think that i just completely untrue
dragoneye454
16-01-2006, 10:17
all the spoilers have been right from there so far
Debbie Meadows
16-01-2006, 10:19
I don't believe that for a second Danny wouldn't be able to kill a fly let alone a person he's not strong enough to kill someone!
Sorry but I could see Danny do it.. he wants to get back in Johnny's good book, maybe he thinks this is his way to do that and then he can return to his family
Sorry but I could see Danny do it.. he wants to get back in Johnny's good book, maybe he thinks this is his way to do that and then he can return to his family
maybe and i guess it is a wat for them to bring him back then if the spoilers about him coming back are true.
i just dont think it sounds beleivable
From The Mirror.
EXCLUSIVE: MOONDUNNIT
Dennis killer revealed in EastEnders bloody climax
IT'S the TV whodunnit that has teased and tantalised EastEnders fans for weeks: Who killed Dennis Rickman?
Yes, gangster Johnny Allen ordered the hit, but viewers have been in the dark about who stabbed the dad-to-be in cold blood. Until now.
Nigel Harman's gruesome exit has set in motion one of Albert Square's darkest storylines.
Over the next two months, the saga develops like something out of a Quentin Tarantino movie.
So look away now if you don't want to know what happens...
The Mitchell brothers are tied and beaten up by Johnny's hoodlums. The killer himself is gunned down and killed by his brother.
Johnny's daughter Ruby saves a treble murder by persuading her dad to hand himself to police.
During the amazing climax the identity of the killer will be revealed as Danny Moon (Jake Maskall) in one of the soap's greatest twists.
Viewers will be stunned that Danny is not dead, after scriptwriters hinted Allen (Billy Murray) bumped him off months ago.
But now it turns out Johnny decided to spare Danny's life - in case he came in useful. And that's not all.
Danny may be the man who murdered Dennis and condemned his pregnant wife Sharon to a life of misery - but it was Johnny who ordered the stabbing. In Albert Square, you never get away with your crime scot-free, and Phil Mitchell (Steve McFadden) is determined to make Allen pay for what he did to Sharon and Dennis.
Handily for Phil, Grant (Ross Kemp) arrives back on the scene just in the nick of time.
The showdown between the bitter rivals will be screened in a week of special episodes shot entirely on location at Allen's new country house. He leaves Albert Square this month to start a new life with Ruby (Louisa Lytton).
But, of course, it's not long before his past catches up.
Just before Dennis was killed, he gave Johnny a thrashing which left him almost unconscious - but handed him a lifeline by throwing him his mobile.
Johnny was able to make a last call before falling unconscious - to Danny.
An insider reveals: "Danny is desperate to get back in with Johnny so when he is given the task he doesn't hesitate. But Johnny needs to be sure and so threatens Danny with death if he doesn't carry out the mission.
"He's not far away and minutes later he arrives to stab Dennis and slip away as the clock strikes midnight on New Year's Eve.
"Johnny recovers in hospital and has the perfect alibi for Dennis's murder so thinks he's in the clear - and decides to make a fresh start elsewhere with Ruby."
But Phil is furious his attempts to get at Johnny led to Dennis's death, and is guilt-ridden for what it has done to his friend Sharon.
With Grant in tow, he sets out to finish Allen once and for all - but somehow his enemy knows he's coming and is prepared.
The source explains: "Johnny is forewarned and forearmed after enlisting Danny's help once again.
"They are able to overpower the Mitchells and get them tied up, but no one could have predicted what happens next.
"As Danny prepares to murder the Mitchells on Johnny's orders, his brother Jake (Joel Beckett) steps from the shadows and shoots him dead.
"It falls to Johnny to try and grab the gun and kill the Mitchells and Jake himself, but help arrives from another unexpected source.
"Ruby pleads with her dad not to commit more crime and to instead turn himself in to the police.
Somehow her plaintive cries hit home and Johnny relents, handing himself in to the authorities."
The week-long special will be on BBC1 at the end of March.
thetintinbloke
16-01-2006, 10:34
Todays Daily Mirror has the same story = but with more details - Danny killed Dennis apparently.
Johnny and Ruby have left the square and live in a large countryside estate - the mitchell brothers go after him but are tied up and beaten up by Johnnys hoodlums. Danny is then killed by his brother Jake.
Ruby saves a treble murder by persuading him to hand himself to police, apparently!!
So, several more murders after the new producer saying they'd be concentrating on characters and less on ridiculous storylines and sensationalism! she lied obviously!!!!
Its gonna be a week of special episodes shot entirely on location at johnnys (doctor evils) secret lair! please!! This'll obviously help them catch up on their filming as they always do a week of filming outside the square to catch up from not filming for 2 weeks over christmas!
This will be shown at the end of march so can't be long til Grant and Phil are back filming...and Johnny doesn't get killed - its turning into reservoir eastenders dogs! too much blood!! stop now!! thank you!!
thetintinbloke
16-01-2006, 10:34
ooooooops sorry, a minute late posting and someone beats me to it!! soz!
well thast sounds fab guess it could be true then!!
It sounds good but it will be no big surprise anymore as it has all been leaked again. EE could increase their ratings no end if they kept things moreunder wraps like they did with the Who shot Phil storyline. That would not have had half the impact it did if viewers all knew who shot him before it was all revealed.
Debbie Meadows
16-01-2006, 11:15
I take it back about danny maybe it is true after all but not sure about jonny handing himself into the police, i mean would someone like jonny really hand themselves into the authotities? i,m not sure they would.
I take it back about danny maybe it is true after all but not sure about jonny handing himself into the police, i mean would someone like jonny really hand themselves into the authotities? i,m not sure they would.
I couldn't see Johnny handing himself over to the police.. seems a bit far fetched.. why would Jake kill Danny?? why chose to save the mitchells over your own brother???
Chloe O'brien
16-01-2006, 11:24
if it is true about Danny killing Dennis he could have got his money worth and had a mass killing in Albert square including the Mitchell brothers, and their fat hobbit of a mother :D
I couldn't see Johnny handing himself over to the police.. seems a bit far fetched.. why would Jake kill Danny?? why chose to save the mitchells over your own brother???
Maybe Ruby uses the same great persuasion skills ( :rolleyes: ) that enabled her to talk Johnny out of shooting Grand and Phil back in October.
Myabe Jake does not know that it is Danny when he fires the gun? :searchme: :confused:
Seems another Walford killing though is coming our way soon. I think maybe the residents should just stick with wearing black forever, it would save time when the next funeral comes around.
Maybe Ruby uses the same great persuasion skills ( :rolleyes: ) that enabled her to talk Johnny out of shooting Grand and Phil back in October.
Myabe Jake does not know that it is Danny when he fires the gun? :searchme: :confused:
I can believe that Danny did kill Dennis but the rest leaves a lot of questions about Jake and the mitchell brothers.. Why would johnny hand himself in and be put himself in jail for many years???.. why would ruby not want her dad around anymore. even if jake didn't know it was danny, why save the mitchells????
tammyy2j
16-01-2006, 12:05
I thought is was Danny alright but why the hell would he help Johnny.
So Johnny is in Walford until March and this storyline goes on until March. I really wanted Johnny to die and not go to prison.
I thought is was Danny alright but why the hell would he help Johnny.
So Johnny is in Walford until March and this storyline goes on until March. I really wanted Johnny to die and not go to prison.
Tammy.. Danny know if he wants to keep his own life he had to do this for Johnny.. they are even now so danny can return to his family if he wants.
I don't get this bit either.. Johnny tells Danny to get out of walford yet he is close enough to get to Dennis to kill him?? so what is it? get out of walford but please just live around the corner incase i need you???? :searchme::searchme:
Chloe O'brien
16-01-2006, 12:24
What a pile of mince the writers should be sacked
What a pile of mince the writers should be sacked
i totally agree. :wall: :wall:
crazygirl
16-01-2006, 12:43
sounds like a load of rubbish to me
I expect more details will be revealed (i.e the circumstances as to why Jake shoots Danny) in the next few months. Nobody right now (me included) knows why Jake shoots Danny just to save the Mitchells but it might all make sense when it is shown on screen or explained. After all Den Watts being killed by Chrissie with a dog shaped doorstop and being buried under the Vic sounds a bit dodgy on paper but it made for fantastic viewing.
I expect more details will be revealed (i.e the circumstances as to why Jake shoots Danny) in the next few months. Nobody right now (me included) knows why Jake shoots Danny just to save the Mitchells but it might all make sense when it is shown on screen or explained. After all Den Watts being killed by Chrissie with a dog shaped doorstop and being buried under the Vic sounds a bit dodgy on paper but it made for fantastic viewing.
that is true.. we just have to wait and see
BlackKat
16-01-2006, 13:26
Excuse me just one moment while I laugh my ass off.
Why would Johnny phone Danny to kill Dennis when we've seen he has people working for him that are capable of it.
We weren't led to believe Danny was dead -- Jake phoned Alfie the episode after to tell him they were okay, when Jake came back he told both Alfie and Johnny that Danny had gone travelling overseas, which usually requires being alive.
Danny is in no way capable of a professional killing the way Dennis was killed. Could he kill someone? If pushed far enough, probably. But it would be an extrmemely botched job, nowhere near the clean, preciseness of Dennis's death.
Why would Jake kill Danny when apparently Johnny is standing right there. If Johnny is pushing Danny into doing something, removing Johnny is the best option.
Oh, and again Ruby saves the day. Like the billion other times she asked him to reform and he did for about two minutes.
EASTENDERS - REVEALED: Who killed Dennis?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Mitchell brothers are tied and beaten up by Johnny's hoodlums. The killer himself is gunned down and killed by his brother.
Johnny's daughter Ruby saves a treble murder by persuading her dad to hand himself to police.
During the amazing climax the identity of the killer will be revealed as Danny Moon (Jake Maskall) in one of the soap's greatest twists.
Viewers will be stunned that Danny is not dead, after scriptwriters hinted Allen (Billy Murray) bumped him off months ago.
But now it turns out Johnny decided to spare Danny's life - in case he came in useful. And that's not all.
Danny may be the man who murdered Dennis and condemned his pregnant wife Sharon to a life of misery - but it was Johnny who ordered the stabbing. In Albert Square, you never get away with your crime scot-free, and Phil Mitchell (Steve McFadden) is determined to make Allen pay for what he did to Sharon and Dennis.
Handily for Phil, Grant (Ross Kemp) arrives back on the scene just in the nick of time.
The showdown between the bitter rivals will be screened in a week of special episodes shot entirely on location at Allen's new country house. He leaves Albert Square this month to start a new life with Ruby (Louisa Lytton).
But, of course, it's not long before his past catches up.
Just before Dennis was killed, he gave Johnny a thrashing which left him almost unconscious - but handed him a lifeline by throwing him his mobile.
Johnny was able to make a last call before falling unconscious - to Danny.
An insider reveals: "Danny is desperate to get back in with Johnny so when he is given the task he doesn't hesitate. But Johnny needs to be sure and so threatens Danny with death if he doesn't carry out the mission.
"He's not far away and minutes later he arrives to stab Dennis and slip away as the clock strikes midnight on New Year's Eve.
"Johnny recovers in hospital and has the perfect alibi for Dennis's murder so thinks he's in the clear - and decides to make a fresh start elsewhere with Ruby."
But Phil is furious his attempts to get at Johnny led to Dennis's death, and is guilt-ridden for what it has done to his friend Sharon.
With Grant in tow, he sets out to finish Allen once and for all - but somehow his enemy knows he's coming and is prepared.
The source explains: "Johnny is forewarned and forearmed after enlisting Danny's help once again.
"They are able to overpower the Mitchells and get them tied up, but no one could have predicted what happens next.
"As Danny prepares to murder the Mitchells on Johnny's orders, his brother Jake (Joel Beckett) steps from the shadows and shoots him dead.
"It falls to Johnny to try and grab the gun and kill the Mitchells and Jake himself, but help arrives from another unexpected source.
"Ruby pleads with her dad not to commit more crime and to instead turn himself in to the police.
Somehow her plaintive cries hit home and Johnny relents, handing himself in to the authorities."
Source: The Daily Mirror
EASTENDERS - REVEALED: Who killed Dennis?
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Jenkate, this was already posted in this thread.. please read the posts before posting..
parkerman
16-01-2006, 14:24
I don't get this bit either.. Johnny tells Danny to get out of walford yet he is close enough to get to Dennis to kill him?? so what is it? get out of walford but please just live around the corner incase i need you???? :searchme::searchme:
True. At what time did Johnny make his phone call? How far away could Danny have been?
True. At what time did Johnny make his phone call? How far away could Danny have been?
I wasn't too long before Dennis was stabbed.. from what it showed, Dennis beat him up, gave him the phone, when to paulines to wash his hands and have a chat with Sonia, so I would say about 30 -40 mins later he was stabbed.. In london, on new years eve, Danny would have to be living very very close to do it
eastenders mad
16-01-2006, 14:51
i can't believe it is Danny Moon.
I thought Johnny didn't want to see Danny ever again when he told them to leave, and if Danny came back he would kill him.
Very confusing maybe Johnny made up with Danny.
This sounds like a load of cack to me. Are the scriptwriters inhaling strange substances or what. Ruby convinces hard man father to spare the Mitchell bruvvas and confess all to police and spend the rest of his life AS IF!!!!!!!!!
What happens when the magnificent Mitchells get bored with EE again?????????
if it is true about Danny killing Dennis he could have got his money worth and had a mass killing in Albert square including the Mitchell brothers, and their fat hobbit of a mother :D
Brilliant description :rotfl:
CrazyLea
16-01-2006, 15:52
personally i think that it could be quite good.
di marco
16-01-2006, 15:54
this story sounds rather stupid!
this story sounds rather stupid!
thank you.. it just doesn't make sense
shannisrules
16-01-2006, 16:03
no it doesnt really make sense but i suppose this is eastenders land after all
Sounds ridiculous to me too but I guess it may (hopefully) fall into place nearer the time.
One thing for sure though, someone like Johnny Allen would never ever ever turn himself in to the police.
di marco
16-01-2006, 16:08
thank you.. it just doesn't make sense
yeh it sounds so stupid
1) why would danny be living so near yet jake doesnt seem to know about it, plus why would johnny let him live there when he told him he never wanted to see him again
2) and johnny was like near to dying after being beaten up so i doubt danny would have been the first person he would have thought of, also why would johnny have dannys number
3) jake wouldnt kill danny, even if he did kill dennis as jake would realise it was johnnys fault, also, i didnt think jake liked the mitchells so why would he go to johnnys house with them
4) even if johnny did hand himself in, surely he would kill jake, phil and grant first then go to the police
erm theres possibly other stuff which doesnt make sense but i cant think of them right now
yeh the story might be interesting to watch, but thats not the point, its going to seem stupid
BlackKat
16-01-2006, 16:27
I hope this is one of those times when only a small amount is true but the rest is pretty much made up by the newspaper. I was actually looking forward to Jake and Danny being involved in Johnny's exit, but this sounds ridiculous.
Johnny Allen
16-01-2006, 16:33
Danny is the most unlikely murderer you can imagine, he's a pathetic little wimp who has to rely on his brother all the time, Im more menancing then him.
I like the fact that Phil and grant are going to get tied up, but come on these two would so badly overcome Danny and Johnny.
Why is it Ruby always arrives at the right time, Johnny must have some alarm that goes of everytime he threatens to kill people.
and finally Johnny Allen wouldn't hand himself in, men like him never do, especially under the influence of his daughter, what kind of street cred would that give him?
It has potential but some bits dont add up.
you know the more i read it the more i actually think it quite good it would be better if danny wasnt involved as that just dosent add up but other than that it ok
you know the more i read it the more i actually think it quite good it would be better if danny wasnt involved as that just dosent add up but other than that it ok
yeah you need someone with a bit more muscle to tied up the mitchells
exactly!! dont know where oyu would find someone with that much muscle but im sure they could!
oooh ooh ooh!! maybe danny has been on steroids sice the last time we saw him and they have made him violent and moody so much so that he killed dennis just coz he was annoying and then decided to try and getvthe mitchells!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
ok maybe not!! :rolleyes: just my imagination
I don't like how this ends at all, i mean, i just think its rubbish!
And i think it would be completely out of character for Jake to kill danny,
I think EE have gone off on one again! lol x
sheilamarie
16-01-2006, 16:57
id hate it if jake killed danny then he might have to leave like chrissie did :(
Johnny Allen
16-01-2006, 17:09
It's trying to be too Hollywood for my liking, and reaches no satisfactoty conclusion, a man like Johnny just wouldnt give himself up.
angelblue
16-01-2006, 17:26
To be honest i see as the mitchells becoming the heros an again they start the problems and then they come out smelling like rosies :thumbsdow
I would of prefered sharon to get the revenage on johnny and people :)
BlackKat
16-01-2006, 17:30
To be honest i see as the mitchells becoming the heros an again they start the problems and then they come out smelling like rosies :thumbsdow
I would of prefered sharon to get the revenage on johnny and people :)
Well, the way The Mirror describe it, Phil and Grant are tied up about to be killed when Jake shoots Danny, saving their lives. And then when Johnny is about to kill all 3, Ruby stops him. So really it's The Mitchells to the rescue, except they somehow get overpowered by Danny and Johnny and are rescued by Jake and Ruby.
The fact that Phil and Grant end up needing saved is the only thing I like about this scenario.
angelblue
16-01-2006, 17:34
But blackkat that sounds a bit far fetched in my opinion danny oh please who are they trying to kidd :hmm:
Also i hope sharon does find out phil part in dennis death and makes him pay :p
Johnny Allen
16-01-2006, 17:36
Exactly I will so laugh when Danny tries to be tough, Johnny should have done away with him ages ago.
BlackKat
16-01-2006, 17:37
But blackkat that sounds a bit far fetched in my opinion danny oh please who are they trying to kidd :hmm:
Also i hope sharon does find out phil part in dennis death and makes him pay :p
Yeah, the entire thing sounds far fetched, but you're saying the article makes it sound like the Mitchells triumph again, but to me it actually says the opposite.
angelblue
16-01-2006, 17:44
I think we will have to see how they play this one out i will try to reserve judgement till then :hmm:
Dutchgirl
16-01-2006, 18:01
:eek: Danny is to volatile, and why did no one see him at 12.00am it does not make sense, a cold blooded killer Danny? The script writers have a rather thick thumb. (Dutch for making things up by sucking on your thumb):confused:
Harmanizing
16-01-2006, 18:21
I've known for a while that Danny is to come back just to be killed off (I think I read it on Ceefax a few months ago). I wasn't particularly bothered as I never liked him in the first place.This storyline however just sounds too pathetic and unbelievable. the only good thing about it seems to be, that Phil did at least try to keep his word to Sharon.
It shows the ridiculous lengths the folks at Elstree will go to to try to keep the overpaid overhyped Mitchells sweet.
BlackKat
16-01-2006, 18:43
It shows the ridiculous lengths the folks at Elstree will go to to try to keep the overpaid overhyped Mitchells sweet.
...Tying them up? :eek: I don't think I want to know anymore about that! :lol:
Chris_2k11
16-01-2006, 19:50
This all sounds extremely far fetched!!! :hmm:
di marco
16-01-2006, 19:55
:eek: Danny is to volatile, and why did no one see him at 12.00am it does not make sense, a cold blooded killer Danny?
thats a good point, surely someone would have recognised danny?
it sounds great cant wait!!!
i read in a soap magazine (cant remember which) danny was coming back in an explosive storyline to tie off loose ends, and he will get killed somehow. I wondered how it was going to happen, now i no!!!
Is Ruby leaving to?
sorry but Danny can't just go around killing people to get on the goodsied of People!
Was told they had the spoiler of who killed dennis so sent a txt to them asking and here's what I got back:
Dennis Rickman's killer in Eastenders is revealed as Danny Moon, but he won't pay 4 his crime- his brother Jake kills him
Just like to be the first one to say oh my God!!
i told you all this the night dennis was killed!!
The Mitchell brothers are tied and beaten up by Johnny's hoodlums. The killer himself is gunned down and killed by his brother.
Johnny's daughter Ruby saves a treble murder by persuading her dad to hand himself to police.
During the amazing climax the identity of the killer will be revealed as Danny Moon (Jake Maskall) in one of the soap's greatest twists.
From Walford Web
It's the TV whodunnit that has teased and tantalised EastEnders fans for weeks: Who killed Dennis Rickman?
Yes, gangster Johnny Allen ordered the hit, but viewers have been in the dark about who stabbed the dad-to-be in cold blood. Until now.
Nigel Harman's gruesome exit has set in motion one of Albert Square's darkest storylines.
Over the next two months, the saga develops like something out of a Quentin Tarantino movie.
So look away now if you don't want to know what happens...
The Mitchell brothers are tied and beaten up by Johnny's hoodlums. The killer himself is gunned down and killed by his brother.
Johnny's daughter Ruby saves a treble murder by persuading her dad to hand himself to police.
During the amazing climax the identity of the killer will be revealed as Danny Moon (Jake Maskall) in one of the soap's greatest twists.
Viewers will be stunned that Danny is not dead, after scriptwriters hinted Allen (Billy Murray) bumped him off months ago.Danny may be the man who murdered Dennis and condemned his pregnant wife Sharon to a life of misery - but it was Johnny who ordered the stabbing. In Albert Square, you never get away with your crime scot-free, and Phil Mitchell (Steve McFadden) is determined to make Allen pay for what he did to Sharon and Dennis.
Handily for Phil, Grant (Ross Kemp) arrives back on the scene just in the nick of time.
The showdown between the bitter rivals will be screened in a week of special episodes shot entirely on location at Allen's new country house. He leaves Albert Square this month to start a new life with Ruby (Louisa Lytton).
But, of course, it's not long before his past catches up.
Just before Dennis was killed, he gave Johnny a thrashing which left him almost unconscious - but handed him a lifeline by throwing him his mobile.
Johnny was able to make a last call before falling unconscious - to Danny.
An insider reveals: "Danny is desperate to get back in with Johnny so when he is given the task he doesn't hesitate. But Johnny needs to be sure and so threatens Danny with death if he doesn't carry out the mission.
"He's not far away and minutes later he arrives to stab Dennis and slip away as the clock strikes midnight on New Year's Eve.
"Johnny recovers in hospital and has the perfect alibi for Dennis's murder so thinks he's in the clear - and decides to make a fresh start elsewhere with Ruby."
But Phil is furious his attempts to get at Johnny led to Dennis's death, and is guilt-ridden for what it has done to his friend Sharon.
With Grant in tow, he sets out to finish Allen once and for all - but somehow his enemy knows he's coming and is prepared.
A source explains: "Johnny is forewarned and forearmed after enlisting Danny's help once again.
"They are able to overpower the Mitchells and get them tied up, but no one could have predicted what happens next.
"As Danny prepares to murder the Mitchells on Johnny's orders, his brother Jake (Joel Beckett) steps from the shadows and shoots him dead.
"It falls to Johnny to try and grab the gun and kill the Mitchells and Jake himself, but help arrives from another unexpected source.
"Ruby pleads with her dad not to commit more crime and to instead turn himself in to the police.
Somehow her plaintive cries hit home and Johnny relents, handing himself in to the authorities."
The week-long special will be on BBC1 at the end of March.
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=42247
the full article of the mitchells/danny/johnny/ruby is posted here
please discuss it in that thread
closing thread...
eastenders mad
17-01-2006, 10:07
wow it is all looking really good.
I still can't belive Danny is the killer. I wonder what Johnny will do now that Jake shoots his own brother when Danny was supposed to kill the mitchells?
Poor Ruby she has a tough time right now, i hope something happy happens to her.
Angeltigger
17-01-2006, 10:11
Oh my goss!
Danny killed Dennis. I am shocked.:eek:
Can not believe that Danny would do a thing like that
sounds excellent but why would jake kill his brother just to save the mitchells?
Sounds lie a cracker but there are a few flaws in this "article" like we know what happened to Danny. Yes I can see Jake shooting the killer to save the Mitchells because as far as Jake is concerned he is stopping another murder. But why hasn't Danny contacted Jake? Plus Johnny didn't know and as far as we know doesn't know where Danny is as Jake didn't tell him.
If Jake saved the Mitchells then they would be forever in his debt, but I can't ever see Jake bouncing back after shooting his own brother. Unless of course he ends up realising that Danny wasn't the brother he knows and loves, brought up and protected all those years but someone who had gone down a path from which there was no return and become someone whom he no longer knew or recognised anymore..
Angeltigger
17-01-2006, 11:54
Dennis nearlly told us on this morning who killed him and he never knew until he was killed who killed him
callummc
17-01-2006, 12:03
sounds ridiculas to me,hope the actual storyline is better than that,it'd be ridiculas if we didn't know what was happening,but if this is right well for 1 its to far fetched,and it leaves to many question marks as to why,and we all know the real reason dennis died,nigel harmon had had 12 months of pathetic storylines and jacked it in
Angeltigger
17-01-2006, 12:05
Nigel Harmon does guy and girls now so he can not do both
can someone please explain to me how Grant and Phil are overpowered by Johnny and Danny?? I mean come on that would just not happen!! however it does say are beaten and tied up by Johnny's houldums? Does Johnny have 4 or 5 blokes waiting for them? As once again it is totally ridiculous to think Johnny and Danny would overpower Grant and Phil!! :searchme:
callummc
17-01-2006, 13:51
it sounds like the person whos idea this storyline was high as a kyte when they wrote it,with storylines like this ee wont be no2 in the bbc worst drama they'll be no1 by next year and fully deserve the title,this storylines got more holes than a fishing net
tammyy2j
17-01-2006, 14:14
In Soaplife is saying "who kills Johnny"? Sharon, Grant or Jake and now Johnny hands himself into the police.
parkerman
17-01-2006, 14:50
Perhaps he gets beaten up and killed in the Police Station as revenge for killing John Boulton.
crazygirl
17-01-2006, 14:53
sounds like a good episode to me
eastenders mad
17-01-2006, 15:03
maybe Jake might take the blame for his brother. By saying that he killed Dennis
di marco
17-01-2006, 16:11
i dont want to offend anyone here, but how come the other thread about this was closed when the other one was started first?
i dont want to offend anyone here, but how come the other thread about this was closed when the other one was started first?
I was wondering that too... there was more chat in the other one.. can they be merged at least???
di marco
17-01-2006, 16:22
I was wondering that too... there was more chat in the other one.. can they be merged at least???
thats what i thought, and this article was on there too, couldnt you do it seeing as youre a mod?
thats what i thought, and this article was on there too, couldnt you do it seeing as youre a mod?
all done.. that chat was going on for a while yesterday and there is a possiblity of repeated posts. Merged..
reopening this thread as it is merge with another
di marco
17-01-2006, 16:27
thanks siobhan, it makes more sense now :)
1) why would jonny listen to a 17 year old squirt? he has been built up to be the man that listens to no one, the hard man...and then he just gives himself in? unbelivable!
2) why would jake shoot his own brother, "your a murderer, im shotting you now, but by doing so ill be as bad as the reason why im shooting you". The mitchells nailed Chrissie so why would he help them?
3) how could an old man and a little cretin tie up the mitchells!?
4) its all too staged and over dramatic and so not original! guns, hostages, perople coming in and saying their peice when theres no need (sharon on dens death for example)
to someone who watches tv this sounds good...to an avid and loyal fan of eastenders this is just a joke!
1) why would jonny listen to a 17 year old squirt? he has been built up to be the man that listens to no one, the hard man...and then he just gives himself in? unbelivable!
2) why would jake shoot his own brother, "your a murderer, im shotting you now, but by doing so ill be as bad as the reason why im shooting you". The mitchells nailed Chrissie so why would he help them?
3) how could an old man and a little cretin tie up the mitchells!?
4) its all too staged and over dramatic and so not original! guns, hostages, perople coming in and saying their peice when theres no need (sharon on dens death for example)
to someone who watches tv this sounds good...to an avid and loyal fan of eastenders this is just a joke!
what annoys me is that EE would have another murder so soon!! there has been too many of them already and this one makes the least sense:angry:
callummc
17-01-2006, 17:29
How many times is ruby going to whinge to johnny dont shoot phill,shes already done it once a few months ago,then send him to get locked up for what,andys murder,conspiring the murder of dennis,theyd throw the key away,what then an old man like him would die in jail,or be 90 at least when he got out,hed then leave ruby to live with a man old enough to be her dad who cleans tables in a greasy spoon
Daisyduck
17-01-2006, 17:51
poor old denis. but i hate danny moon so good riddens
i_luv_dennis
17-01-2006, 20:35
i cant belive it
I want to know how does Jake know that Danny is going to kill Phil and Grant?
I want to know how does Jake know that Danny is going to kill Phil and Grant?
someone suggested he doesn't and is only in Johnny office when it all kick off.. I am not sure about that one myself. I am sure EE will tell us over the weeks
I want to know how does Jake know that Danny is going to kill Phil and Grant?
Someone must find out what Johnny's up to with Danny and tell Jake. Can't think who though.
BlackKat
20-01-2006, 17:05
Danny might tell Jake if he's freaked out about the entire situation enough.
According to Billy Murray in one of the soap mags, something brings Johnny back to Walford in a few weeks. It might be that Danny turns up to see Jake, Johnny magically hears about it, and is worried that Jake might find out what Danny did.
jason_beech
21-01-2006, 13:48
maybe jake finds out mike has his money and jake goes through scarlets looking for it and finds evidence of danny and jhonny doing a deal through cctv
di marco
21-01-2006, 13:49
maybe jake finds out mike has his money and jake goes through scarlets looking for it and finds evidence of danny and jhonny doing a deal through cctv
lol the incredible cctv!
BlackKat
21-01-2006, 13:54
maybe jake finds out mike has his money and jake goes through scarlets looking for it and finds evidence of danny and jhonny doing a deal through cctv
Ahhhhh! Not another tape of exposition! Pretty soon people won't even need to talk to each other in Walford. They'll film everything, leave the tape lying about and the information will get out somehow.
lol the incredible cctv!
It seems to change quality depending on the situation.
jason_beech
21-01-2006, 13:59
has anyone mentioned that jake could shoot danny by accident as he might know that jhonny wants the mitchells dead and he goes to save them for some bizzare reason seeing that they got chrisse caught and runs in with a gun shoots and dannys dead.
Someone posted an article a little while ago, and there was nothing about it being an accident.
jason_beech
21-01-2006, 15:18
has it been filmed yet though because i read end of march?
di marco
21-01-2006, 15:37
has it been filmed yet though because i read end of march?
it will probably be filmed pretty soon
End of March? I thought that was when it will be revealed in the show? Or was it may? If March, them it would have already been filmed. If may, It will be filmed sometime next month.
di marco
21-01-2006, 16:00
End of March? I thought that was when it will be revealed in the show? Or was it may? If March, them it would have already been filmed. If may, It will be filmed sometime next month.
yeh the end of march its being shown, thats why i said it would be being filmed very soon if it hasnt already done so cos they film about 2 months in advance
I thought it was two and a half? They tend to skip dates on the webcam and then go back and fill in the ones they have missed.
di marco
21-01-2006, 16:03
I thought it was two and a half? They tend to skip dates on the webcam and then go back and fill in the ones they have missed.
well theyre doing the beginning of march on the webcam atm so they cant film that much in advance
That doesn't make any sense as they were doing the middle and then go back and do some of the beginning.
di marco
21-01-2006, 16:13
That doesn't make any sense as they were doing the middle and then go back and do some of the beginning.
i didnt think they have, the furthest i can find is march 3rd
They've definatley done it with other months, If not march at present.
di marco
21-01-2006, 16:21
They've definatley done it with other months, If not march at present.
i think they might do it with about a week or so, so they might film for the 20th and then do the 12th say
It was about that, maybe a little longer.
jason_beech
21-01-2006, 16:56
well i read it would be shown end of march so they must be filming now or roughly near now but it also said at jhonny allens country house meaning it must be of location anyway so im not sure if the webcam would pick it up and air it
BlackKat
21-01-2006, 20:00
They film 6 weeks in advance, so the end of March should be filmed about the second week of Febuary I think. Around Christmas they film 8 weeks in advance, so I think the dates jump around a bit then.
di marco
21-01-2006, 20:19
well i read it would be shown end of march so they must be filming now or roughly near now but it also said at jhonny allens country house meaning it must be of location anyway so im not sure if the webcam would pick it up and air it
no the webcam probably wouldnt pick it up, plus i just had a thought, cos its on location, they might not keep to the same schedule that they do with normal filming, so they might not film 6 weeks in advance like they normally do
xStephaniex
22-01-2006, 15:24
omg !!!! how freaky danny moon :eek: .... well i never ! *looks speechless*
diamond1
23-01-2006, 13:04
maybe when we next see danny he is even more uncontrollable and is proud of what he done to dennis,i can see danny doing this as all he wanted was for jhonny to be a father figure and in his mind killing dennis is his way of getting jhonny to treat him with respect and if its true about trying to kill the mitchels maybe that is why jake shoots him as he dont regonize danny as his brother but as the man who killed a married man about to raise a child and showing no remorse and then wanting to kill again,
i dont think jake wants anymore gangland killings i think he is haunted by andy still and wants to ease his guilt over his part played in andys murder
Dutchgirl
23-01-2006, 13:23
maybe when we next see danny he is even more uncontrollable and is proud of what he done to dennis,i can see danny doing this as all he wanted was for jhonny to be a father figure and in his mind killing dennis is his way of getting jhonny to treat him with respect and if its true about trying to kill the mitchels maybe that is why jake shoots him as he dont regonize danny as his brother but as the man who killed a married man about to raise a child and showing no remorse and then wanting to kill again,
i dont think jake wants anymore gangland killings i think he is haunted by andy still and wants to ease his guilt over his part played in andys murder
Wow you really did some soulsearching there!
JustJodi
23-01-2006, 13:25
Wow you really did some soulsearching there!
whoa she sure did... that was some deep thinking there !
BlackKat
23-01-2006, 13:41
I still don't think Jake would kill Danny. He's still affected by Andy's death -- and that was watching it, not even knowing it was going to happen, and a man he'd only known a few months and didn't like anyway. This is his little brother, that's he's always looked out for, that he was willing to take a bullet for, and it's killing him, intentionally. I don't see it.
I also never saw Danny as wanting Johnny to be a father figure. He wanted Johnny's attention. And it was always about Jake and Danny -- Danny freaked out because Jake was planning to go to the salsa night, because Jake was going with Chrissie to the salsa night. He didn't mind Alfie going, but Jake going practically made him hyperventilate. And it was Jake walking away from him that send him over the edge into the babbling mess that set fire to Johnny's house. He linked all the problems back to Johnny but not all of his problems were to do with him.
The last time Danny tried to get Johnny's attention he ended up with a gun shoved in his face, and Danny is not a complete idiot. He knows Johnny's dangerous. I don't believe he'd jump at any chance just to get into Johnny's good books, because he knows that it wouldn't last. Look how quickly Johnny dropped the boys when they brought dodgy whisky in. In fact the only reason Danny would have to do anything Johnny said would be to be able to come back to Walford, in which case -- where he is?
I swear, they f-up the Jake and Danny storyline and I will kill them.
Dutchgirl
23-01-2006, 13:49
I swear, they f-up the Jake and Danny storyline and I will kill them.
Now now don't get upset, they are not worth it.:rolleyes:
JustJodi
23-01-2006, 13:50
Thats telling them BK... I am so TIRED of being disapointed nite after nite,, its time the writers take their thumbs out of their u know whats and get on the stick and start writing something EXCITING,, :ninja:
BlackKat
23-01-2006, 14:00
Now now don't get upset, they are not worth it.:rolleyes:
Jake and Danny's storyline was the one storyline last year I enjoyed all the way through. I did enjoy others but I thought they all had parts where they either got boring, went round in circles for a bit or were just unrealistic. Plus Jake's my favourite character so I'm a wee bit annoyed that they have managed to find a way to mess it up. Not surprised, just annoyed.
I'm not suicidal, and "killing them" was just a figure of speech. I'm not going to start sending death threats to Kate Harwood.
I'm just cynical and annoyed, the same way I was when Molfie was boring the hell outta me, when Ruby took over every other second of the episodes, and when the writers expect people to be on the edge of their seats over the fate of Wellard. It just this time they're my favourites so I'm more annoyed, the same way Shannis fans would be if they had suddenly had Dennis shoot Sharon.
They could find a way to make it realistic, I just don't think they will.
and start writing something EXCITING
Oh, it'll be very exciting, I don't doubt that. I just don't think it's going to be in character -- and that's for all characters involved, not just Jake and Danny.
Dutchgirl
23-01-2006, 14:04
I'm not suicidal, and "killing them" was just a figure of speech. I'm not going to start sending death threats to Kate Harwood.
Did not think that you would, just sympathetic about your feelings, it can get annoying at the best of times, when nothing ecxiting is happening in EE. Or when it is getting a bit too farfetched.
diamond1
23-01-2006, 14:25
jake killing anybody would not likley happen after his small role in andys death and as blackkat espcially not danny but i wouldnt of thought danny killing dennis was unlikley but i was wrong here it seems
Can anyon think of a reason why danny would kill dennis for jhonny other than to return to walford without the threat of jhonny over him
a reason for jake killing danny is even harder to think of
although i do remember danny saying to billy once that jhonnys using billy as a gopher and he see's danny as the future it was the episode i think where jake and danny fell out and danny smashed all the beer bottles or around that time somtime (long time ago now)
that made me think that danny did look up to jhonny as a father figure....are we sure jake actually does shoot danny here because i read on here weeks back jhonny kills him
BlackKat
23-01-2006, 14:36
One of the only reasons I can think of for Jake killing Danny would be if he saw it almost as a mercy killing -- a way to end Danny's misery, or if say Johnny was planning on doing it. Jake might feel, in a twisted logic way, that a quick bullet to the head is better than any long drawn out death Johnny may devise. Also he might see it as his "responsibility," or his "duty," to do it.
I could see this because, in a twisted way, Jake is putting Danny first. Killing Danny because Danny killed Dennis and is about to the Mitchells means that Jake is putting Dennis and the Mitchells above Danny, which I think is one of my problems with it.
I think that though would be hard to pull off. There's no one around Jake could talk to about it, so we wouldn't be able to get in the insight needed to see that was his reasoning. One of my other problems is how to you then get Jake past it?? I have no problem with them bringing Jake down to his absolute rock bottom, in fact I want them to because I think that's where the best stories are. If this story is true we'll see a very dark Jake afterwards. I just don't know if they could realistically bring Jake back up again afterwards. :searchme:
diamond1
23-01-2006, 14:43
well knowing eastenders he will be sad for a week moody for weeks after that go for a long "break" with alfie or spencer and come back cheerful and happy then pointless to storylines
(they did with both paul and to an extent dennis)
when in all reality dannys death (with him involved or not) would make him near suicidal and to the point miserable
but i can see him and dawn growing closer from it months down the line
One of the only reasons I can think of for Jake killing Danny would be if he saw it almost as a mercy killing -- a way to end Danny's misery, or if say Johnny was planning on doing it. Jake might feel, in a twisted logic way, that a quick bullet to the head is better than any long drawn out death Johnny may devise. Also he might see it as his "responsibility," or his "duty," to do it.
I could see this because, in a twisted way, Jake is putting Danny first. Killing Danny because Danny killed Dennis and is about to the Mitchells means that Jake is putting Dennis and the Mitchells above Danny, which I think is one of my problems with it.
I think that though would be hard to pull off. There's no one around Jake could talk to about it, so we wouldn't be able to get in the insight needed to see that was his reasoning. One of my other problems is how to you then get Jake past it?? I have no problem with them bringing Jake down to his absolute rock bottom, in fact I want them to because I think that's where the best stories are. If this story is true we'll see a very dark Jake afterwards. I just don't know if they could realistically bring Jake back up again afterwards. :searchme:
just reading that, and it does kinda make sense, i can see where your coming from, i mean Jake was like really affected from watching Johnny kill andy so how will he recover from killing his own brother?
DaVeyWaVey
23-01-2006, 17:35
I can actually believe this storyline and if this is true, it would be very exciting. Does anyone know if it has been confirmed?
I think, if this is 100% true 2006 will be a very prosperous year for EastEnders.
Starting the year with something gripping and exciting as this sounds is a great thing to do. Chrissie killing Den - February. Ratings went up and EastEnders was out of the 'long downfall'.
I think Danny will somehow try to talk Johnny out of killing the Mitchells, with Jake secretly watching and when Johnny says "do it or else" it's the final straw. Killing someone close to you is a very strong and emotional thing to portray so he'd have to have a very good reason to kill his own flesh & blood. Probably Johnny tells Jake he is going to kill Danny after he does his dirty work so he doesnt "squeel" and Jake decides to do it to save Danny pain.
The comes in Ruby going "please dad do it for me :'(" etc.
Or this could be a plot to see Chrissie breaking out of prison and killing:
Johnny for keeping the tape.
The mitchells for helping Sam
Danny for stealing her boyfriend back in the days.
That's just my dream :'(
diamond1
25-01-2006, 13:31
pretty ture apart from the last bit i cant see chrissie doing that again like jake it would take too much out of her
pretty ture apart from the last bit i cant see chrissie doing that again like jake it would take too much out of her
Hence the "that's my dream" part of the post :p
Hence the "that's my dream" part of the post :p
My dream to, lol but tracy-ann has no plans (of yet anyway!) to return! x
Harmanizing
26-01-2006, 20:18
I don't know if this has already been suggested but I think this whole story would be a little bit more believable if Ruby turned her dad in, rather than have him do it himself. I couldn't see him ever turning himself in, no matter what Ruby said to him.
I don't know if this has already been suggested but I think this whole story would be a little bit more believable if Ruby turned her dad in, rather than have him do it himself. I couldn't see him ever turning himself in, no matter what Ruby said to him.
Agreed. Johnny would never turn himself in to the police as he believes that Dennis (and Andy and all the others he has harmed over the years) deserved it because they disrespected him or offended him personally. He never acted like he thought what he did to Andy or Dennis was wrong.
neetamon
26-01-2006, 22:32
johnny was lucky danny was so close to albert square to kill denis. think its a bit far fetched, it be more believiable if jake done it
neeta
Mc_Julie_B_2006
04-02-2006, 18:01
yeh i see it because he owes jonny a favour!!!
johnny was lucky danny was so close to albert square to kill denis. think its a bit far fetched, it be more believiable if jake done it
I agree it was a bit far fetched that Danny was there in Albert Square (he must of been very close) and for no-one to recognise him! was he disguised? :ninja:
Was told they had the spoiler of who killed dennis so sent a txt to them asking and here's what I got back:
Dennis Rickman's killer in Eastenders is revealed as Danny Moon, but he won't pay 4 his crime- his brother Jake kills him
Just like to be the first one to say oh my God!!
that is crazy how can he kill his own brother!! hehe
di marco
11-02-2006, 17:35
I agree it was a bit far fetched that Danny was there in Albert Square (he must of been very close) and for no-one to recognise him! was he disguised? :ninja:
thats what i said, surely someone would have recognised him?
stacyefc
16-02-2006, 23:26
and how was he in albery square. Jake siad he was abroad somewhere
diamond1
17-02-2006, 14:27
i have this theory jake will become involved through someone like billy he is in the vic talking to billy and jake brings up the mitchells and what animals they are (example) and billy goes well look at your danny and mentions how rough he looked on new years ever which gets jake thinking why was danny in walford on new years eve then everything falls into place
di marco
17-02-2006, 20:52
i have this theory jake will become involved through someone like billy he is in the vic talking to billy and jake brings up the mitchells and what animals they are (example) and billy goes well look at your danny and mentions how rough he looked on new years ever which gets jake thinking why was danny in walford on new years eve then everything falls into place
but surely if danny was seen on new years eve then someone would have said something by now?
I would have thought so! its one of the reason I find it unlikley no-one saw him, and if they did course they would mention it!
diamond1
18-02-2006, 12:09
was just a thought, it might not happen i was just thinking of a way to solve it lol
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