tv licence

[chance]

do you think we should have to pay the tv licence?
i do not think we should have to pay it because youve already paid for the tv,you pay for your electric why should you pay to watch the kind of rubbish bbc1 churn out?

[RealityGap]

hey cbeebies keeps me sane with 2 young kids I happily pay the liecence fee!!

[chance]

i pay for mine too i just dont think we should have too.

[Luna]

I think there should be on option if you dont pay it you dont have access to any of the bbc channels. I dont see why people who dont watch anything on they channels have to pay

[hazey]

At least we only pay for Tv licence now days,at one time you had to have a radio licence as well, without the licence BBC could not run,as they dont have commericals to off set the costs. I dont mind paying, as I hate adverts. But wish they would catch the non payers,and fine them I know someone that didn't have a licence for 10 years, they had to get a licence and was fined only £100, so they broke the law but ended up having Tv all that time for £100.

[Luna]

but is it really worth it are we really getting what we are paying for? I for one only watch eastenders

[RealityGap]

i pay for mine too i just dont think we should have too.

not trying to say people don't pay theres - I was saying I am happy to pay the liecence fee for the service of cbeebies - sorry if I offended anyone:(

[hazey]

no I didnt think you said that. I was just pointing out that I me happy to pay if other do as well.

[eastenderfan_91]

do you think we should have to pay the tv licence?
i do not think we should have to pay it because youve already paid for the tv,you pay for your electric why should you pay to watch the kind of rubbish bbc1 churn out? i agree with you

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

I agree chance.. though I don't do the paying.. its like we pay for our lives..

[eastenderfan_91]

yer i also agree with you spicyspy

[Jessie Wallace]

I'm happy to pay for mine. If you don't like whats on it don't watch it, but Video's or Dvd's.

[chance]

not trying to say people don't pay theres - I was saying I am happy to pay the liecence fee for the service of cbeebies - sorry if I offended anyone:(
ooo no sorry you didnt offend me i was just making sure because of the poll i started that it was clear i paid mine even though i disagree with it. :)

[Jojo]

I agree to some respects, but not to others - the bbc need money from somewhere and it'll either come through tax paying or through the licence (although they are looking at abolishing the licence fee I heard ?) I personally believe that I can't moan about paying £100 odd per year when I currently pay £51 per month for Sky - no that is extortionate, but we'd be lost without it!!

[Debs]

i pay my tv licenece but i really hate having to, as it is i pay enough for all the extra channels anyway in my ntl package. maybe bbc should have a few adverts then we wouldnt have to pay!! roll on when im 75!! its ffree then aint it??

[Jojo]

i pay my tv licenece but i really hate having to, as it is i pay enough for all the extra channels anyway in my ntl package. maybe bbc should have a few adverts then we wouldnt have to pay!! roll on when im 75!! its ffree then aint it??Thats only cause you won't be able to see the tv then hon!! :rotfl:

[Debs]

Thats only cause you won't be able to see the tv then hon!! :rotfl:

:rotfl: true and you get them free if your blind!! too right id be really peed off if i had to pay!!

[chance]

Thats only cause you won't be able to see the tv then hon!! :rotfl:lmao

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

75 :eek: If we live trhat long..

[RealityGap]

:rotfl: true and you get them free if your blind!! too right id be really peed off if i had to pay!!

you really are on form today debs...now feed your poor doggy before he goes to doggy heaven!!

[Debs]

you really are on form today debs...now feed your poor doggy before he goes to doggy heaven!!


oh god yeah i knoe! i was hoping he might run away or summin!!! LOL

[alan45]

The TV licence is a BBC tax. Let them raise money by advertising like ITV. Maybe then they would stop wasting money on rubbish programs and extortionate fees for second rate actors

[Debs]

The TV licence is a BBC tax. Let them raise money by advertising like ITV. Maybe then they would stop wasting money on rubbish programs and extortionate fees for second rate actors

couldnt agree more i dont mind having to sit throught a few adverts, i dont really watch a lot on bbc anyway!

[Abi]

Obviously i dont pay the licnse fee (i leave that to my mum :D ) but i dont agree with it, because when my sister moved to uni she really couldn't afford it. She went for months in a tiny roon with no TV because she couldn't afford the licence. She was harrassed with letters warning her that they are watching her, and that she better pay it. It was so dumb. In the end she got a black and white TV as its only £50 for that license. She'd just spent a fourtune on going to uni, then couldn't even get a tele!

I personally dont mind the adverts, as it gives you a chance to go to the loo ETC. Also, if yur recording something then you can just fast forward through them, and get through the programme a whole lot quicker.

I hat the fact that i know they waste so much money behind the scenes as well. If i'm thinking correctly, they spend the money on officy things as well. Between you, me and the trees they print hundreads of Radio Times's and give them out to everyone who works there. why? i dunno! They also have a lcub there, meaning a bar. The dirnks are dirt cheap. They dont care if you print stuff which isn't work related, and they freely give you stationary ETC. They waste sooo much money. Then they go and get poor actors and over pay them!

[alan45]

The Beeb Produce so much politically correct rubbish because they know they will get X millions from our dear leader Mr Bliar so they dont care about the content as long as they can get their narrow minded message accross. Not only that but they spend loadsamoney wooing back poor actors to prop up ailing programmes.

[pinkles14]

No i don think we should have to pay for a tv licence bbc should just have adverts

[Meh]

The Beeb Produce so much politically correct rubbish because they know they will get X millions from our dear leader Mr Bliar so they dont care about the content as long as they can get their narrow minded message accross. Not only that but they spend loadsamoney wooing back poor actors to prop up ailing programmes.

There is no truly impartial news network. Either too left or too right in their views. Take Fox Network- "Fair and balanced", yeah right - all funded by Rupert Murdochs right wing agenda. I think I'll take the BBC anyday.

[alan45]

There is no truly impartial news network. Either too left or too right in their views. Take Fox Network- "Fair and balanced", yeah right - all funded by Rupert Murdochs right wing agenda. I think I'll take the BBC anyday.

#You dont have to tell me iread the Daily mail and the Daily Torygraph as well as subscribing to private eye - but at least they are run as a business unlike the Biased Brodcasting Corporation :)

[Richie_lecturer]

There is no truly impartial news network. Either too left or too right in their views. Take Fox Network- "Fair and balanced", yeah right - all funded by Rupert Murdochs right wing agenda. I think I'll take the BBC anyday.

Oh yes the BBC news, with reporters weeping at the death of Yasser Arafat the terrorist.

Down with the Telly Tax. :thumbsdow

[Jojo]

Crumbs - its getting hot and political in here lol

[alan45]

Dont even mention the arslikhan of Gerry Adams and Martin Mc Guiness the worlds leading terrorists

[Richie_lecturer]

Perhaps if the BBC made their accounts and spending plans transparent, they may face less hostility towards the Telly tax. Will they do that, pff will they never. :wall:

It was a corporation dreamt up by Socialists, and run like a Socialist system: Wasteful, inefficient, and unaccountable. All their workers read the Guardian. All their job adverts are in the Guardian. Finally they waste lots of money on fat cat managers, bureaucracy and are overstaffed. Their press office (the Spin Centre) is a giant hydra.

[alan45]

The BBC tax is an unfair tax imposed by the pinko liberals in the beeb who produce left wing rubbish according to their own agendas an to hell with the wishes of the Great British Public

[Debs]

oh dear politics!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz#

all of a suden very sleepy night night

xxx

:rotfl:

[Jojo]

oh dear politics!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz#

all of a suden very sleepy night night

xxx

:rotfl:I was thinking the same - very hot in this thread, very hot...:rotfl:

[Richie_lecturer]

Night Debs.

Don't dream about Michael Foot and Tony Benn too much! :nono:

[Meh]

You're right. We just want to be brainwashed for free. Lets see, if we don't get right wingers like Bill O'Reilly spouting extremist views, its sensationalizing 'war on terror'. The right wing channels have done more to keep people in fear in line with the philosophy of McCarthyism and Orwells invisible enemy than Goebbels could have ever dreamed of.

The Government should make it a priority for the licence fee to be removed. Its a sad state of affairs when we have pay to have a sanity check.

[alan45]

:)
I was thinking the same - very hot in this thread, very hot...:rotfl:

Nighty night dont even dream about George Dubya
:)

[Meh]

The BBC tax is an unfair tax imposed by the pinko liberals in the beeb who produce left wing rubbish according to their own agendas an to hell with the wishes of the Great British Public

A bit ironic considering the Great British Public just voted in a socialist government.

No wait, you mean the disenfranchised didn't bother to vote.

[Richie_lecturer]

You're right. We just want to be brainwashed for free. Lets see, if we don't get right wingers like Bill O'Reilly spouting extremist views, its sensationalizing 'war on terror'. The right wing channels have done more to keep people in fear in line with the philosophy of McCarthyism and Orwells invisible enemy than Goebbels could have ever dreamed of.


Are you Robert Fisk in disguise?

Stop singing the Red Flag in the shower young man.

[Richie_lecturer]

A bit ironic considering the Great British Public just voted in a socialist government.

No wait, you mean the disenfranchised didn't bother to vote.

It's a 'Conservative' nation, or a 'right-leaning' nation at the very least. Labour are only in because Mr Bliar is occupying the centre and dipping his toes on a few right wing issues.

[Jojo]

:)

Nighty night dont even dream about George Dubya
:)Personally, I don't watch bbc, hardly itv either - I generally only watch sky or get stuck with my kids' dvd's.

And yes I voted in the election, as I have done for the last 11 yrs!!

And if I dreamt about George - I would know that I have serious issues that need sorting out!!!!

I just said that the conversation seemed to be getting rather heated! :D :D

[Richie_lecturer]

You could say that again Jo. :)

Saw your comment on Dubya, and I just choked on a pretzel. :eek:

[alan45]

A bit ironic considering the Great British Public just voted in a socialist government.

No wait, you mean the disenfranchised didn't bother to vote.

Ah but Mister Bates check the total percentage voters and you will discover that the dear leader did not recieve the majority of the vote. No wonder he is so scared of PR :)

[Jojo]

You could say that again Jo. :)

Saw your comment on Dubya, and I just choked on a pretzel. :eek:I really cannot see me dreaming about that imbicile (sp?) Who do guys think I am??!! :D :D

[Meh]

Are you Robert Fisk in disguise?

Stop singing the Red Flag in the shower young man.

Typical response coming from a right winger :lol:

Can't think of anything to say, I know what, I'll label them. :wall:

[Meh]

Ah but Mister Bates check the total percentage voters and you will discover that the dear leader did not recieve the majority of the vote. No wonder he is so scared of PR :)

I can't remember the last time the majority of the population voted. Obviously Mr Liar and his cronies don't want to change the system as it favours them (and the conservatives). Its the Lib dems and fringe parties that get shafted.

[Richie_lecturer]

Typical response coming from a right winger :lol:


Actually someone of the right, but also someone who respects (normally) the views of the left. :)

[alan45]

I really cannot see me dreaming about that imbicile (sp?) Who do guys think I am??!! :D :D

Well if you didnt live in Holland ~I woiuld think you were my American neighbour :)

[Jojo]

Well if you didnt live in Holland ~I woiuld think you were my American neighbour :)???? :searchme: What are you on?? :rotfl: Holland???????

[Meh]

It's a 'Conservative' nation, or a 'right-leaning' nation at the very least. Labour are only in because Mr Bliar is occupying the centre and dipping his toes on a few right wing issues.

Err, so the wealth that the Labour govt have created in the past two terms has got nothing to do with it?

[Meh]

???? :searchme: What are you on?? :rotfl: Holland???????

He thinks your JustJodi.

[Jojo]

He thinks your JustJodi.Thats what I thought he was thinking - I'm a bit younger than JustJodi!! And I'm sure my location says DEVON!!!!! :rotfl:

[alan45]

Err, so the wealth that the Labour govt have created in the past two terms has got nothing to do with it?

yes wonderful at the expense of the taxpayers :rotfl:

[Richie_lecturer]

Err, so the wealth that the Labour govt have created in the past two terms has got nothing to do with it?

No it's the inheritance of a previous Conservative administration's booming economy, set up by the economic reforms from a handbag owner.

Shame Labour are going to throw it all away now with that huge black hole they are creating, and taxing the likes of me to the hilt for little gain. :thumbsdow :(

[alan45]

He thinks your JustJodi.

Yep

#my mistake sorry

[Jojo]

Yep

#my mistake sorry Thats ok, but I am 20 yrs Jodi's junior!! :rotfl: And pregnant too, which I'm sure Jodi isn't! :D

[alan45]

Please award me tonights total ******* award

[Meh]

No it's the inheritance of a previous Conservative administration's booming economy, set up by the economic reforms from a handbag owner.

Shame Labour are going to throw it all away now with that huge black hole they are creating, and taxing the likes of me to the hilt for little gain. :thumbsdow :(

That's as bad as Labour blaming everything on what they inherited from the Conservatives. Its a no win argument.

Thacherism? That's opening pandoras box. Feel free to start another thread on it.

[Jojo]

Please award me tonights total ******* award:rotfl: lmao :rotfl: I shall officially award it to you :D

[Meh]

Please award me tonights total ******* award

Why you gonna add it your exisiting collection? And please don't use such language.

[alan45]

which i graciously accept

[Richie_lecturer]

That's as bad as Labour blaming everything on what they inherited from the Conservatives. Its a no win argument.

Thacherism? That's opening pandoras box. Feel free to start another thread on it.

Well we'll call it a day there Norman Lightfoot I think. :)

Now, back to the Telly Tax. What a rip off. :mad:

[Meh]

yes wonderful at the expense of the taxpayers :rotfl:

I don't see people complaining. Sour grapes somewhere down the line?

[Richie_lecturer]

I don't see people complaining. Sour grapes somewhere down the line?

I'm complaining. Lots of people I know are peeved off about it.

Countries with high taxes and big Government don't work. Try telling France that. :)

Neo-liberal economies with low tax, less regulation and less interference are the way forward. :)

[alan45]

:)
Why you gonna add it your exisiting collection? And please don't use such language.

Well at least i was insulting myself and the system deleted the offensive wolrd :)

[Meh]

I'm complaining. Lots of people I know are peeved off about it.

Countries with high taxes and big Government don't work. Try telling France that. :)

Neo-liberal economies with low tax, less regulation and less interference are the way forward. :)

Don't mention France. I think the farmers there need a good kicking.

I'm all for a free market economy. Its just that greed happens to pervail over all things.

As for less regulation, some public services should never be privatised. Its inviting chaos.

Once again, off topic ....

[Meh]

:)

Well at least i was insulting myself and the system deleted the offensive wolrd :)

I deleted it, but auto-censor will do it from now on

[Richie_lecturer]

Don't mention France. I think the farmers there need a good kicking.

I'm all for a free market economy. Its just that greed happens to pervail over all things.

As for less regulation, some public services should never be privatised. Its inviting chaos.

Once again, off topic ....

Fair points, although privatisation does work, except when it involves trains :rolleyes:. Just look at British Telecom and British Airways for example.

[Dr. Tangliss]

I do not think we should pay for one, considering it's only for the BBC! I have got loads of other good channels on NTL. At the end of the day, I pay a monthly fee for that, so why should I have to pay extra for the BBC to profit from!

[alan45]

Don't mention France. I think the farmers there need a good kicking.

....

Its not just the french farmers its their weak government which does not stand up to them :)

[chance]

The TV licence is a BBC tax. Let them raise money by advertising like ITV. Maybe then they would stop wasting money on rubbish programs and extortionate fees for second rate actors
well said! :cheer:

[di marco]

hmmmmm i dont know. it is a bit unfair if you dont watch bbc at all or you hardly ever watch it, but they need to get the money from somewhere, although yes maybe they need to spend their money better. however i think, and i hope not to offend anyone here, that if you have a subscription to sky or cable and you pay to watch those channels, then i dont think you should be complaining about paying for the bbc

[Behemoth]

I don't mind having to pay for a TV license...but that could be because it's not me who actually pays it!

[eastenderfan_91]

lol

[Dr. Tangliss]

Yeah, true, but I choose to pay for the extra channels, and not made to do so! I rarely watch BBC channels, mainly for Holby and EE. I probably watch Channel 3 & 4 more, and other stuff on NTL.

[di marco]

Yeah, true, but I choose to pay for the extra channels, and not made to do so! I rarely watch BBC channels, mainly for Holby and EE. I probably watch Channel 3 & 4 more, and other stuff on NTL.

ok fair point, but if it became optional to pay for the license and if you didnt you couldnt view any bbc channels, would you pay the fee or not watch anything on them?

[Dr. Tangliss]

ok fair point, but if it became optional to pay for the license and if you didnt you couldnt view any bbc channels, would you pay the fee or not watch anything on them?

Good question :) If the fee was greatly reduced, I would pay it. However, at the current price, and with it rising yearly, then no.

[eastenderfan_91]

i would say it would be harder to pay if you had children looking at my cousins for example they have the telly on all day so that would have to equal a lot of money

[Dr. Tangliss]

i would say it would be harder to pay if you had children looking at my cousins for example they have the telly on all day so that would have to equal a lot of money

My children mostly watch Nick Jr, which is so much better then CBeebies.

[eastenderfan_91]

lol my cousins always watch cartoon network lol

[di marco]

Good question :) If the fee was greatly reduced, I would pay it. However, at the current price, and with it rising yearly, then no.

how much would you like to see it reduced to then?

[Dr. Tangliss]

how much would you like to see it reduce to then?

Well, atm, its £126.50, which is stupid. I would pay £50 at the very most.

[eastenderfan_91]

that is alot of money i dont pay my parents do but thats outrageous

[di marco]

Well, atm, its £126.50, which is stupid. I would pay £50 at the very most.

i suppose £50 is a good price seeing as you dont watch much on it

[Dr. Tangliss]

that is alot of money i dont pay my parents do but thats outrageous

Indeed it is, and get this! If you are blind you still have to pay £63.25!:cartman:

[di marco]

that is alot of money i dont pay my parents do but thats outrageous

do you watch much on bbc?

[Dr. Tangliss]

i suppose £50 is a good price seeing as you dont watch much on it

Well, at present, if you have a black & white tv, all you have to pay is £42!!!

[di marco]

Indeed it is, and get this! If you are blind you still have to pay £63.25!:cartman:

do you? i thought it was free if you were blind

[eastenderfan_91]

eastenders mostly lol and what you have to pay if your blind how bizzare lol

[Jojo]

do you? i thought it was free if you were blindNope, cause if you're blind, you can still hear, therefore you can apparently still watch what is on!!

[di marco]

Well, at present, if you have a black & white tv, all you have to pay is £42!!!

ok i think you should pay a bit less if you have a black and white tv, but not that much less as you can still see it and hear it!

[Dr. Tangliss]

do you? i thought it was free if you were blind

Nope, half price if blind, and people with a black & white tv, pay less then those who can't see:searchme:

[di marco]

eastenders mostly lol

i was just wondering cos if you watched a lot of bbc then i dont think the amount you pay is that bad, especially when you compare it to sky etc

[Dr. Tangliss]

So, for a colour tv £126.50
If you are blind : £63.25
If you have a black & white tv: £42!

Put's it all in prospective, doesn't it.

Me'h!

[di marco]

Nope, cause if you're blind, you can still hear, therefore you can apparently still watch what is on!!

thats stupid! what about if youre deaf?

[eastenderfan_91]

ok well i think it should drop down to what dr tangliss said about £50

[Jojo]

thats stupid! what about if youre deaf?Still pay full price I think - you just get it subtitled...

[Dr. Tangliss]

Deaf, you pay the full amount, as you can watch it and they provide subtitles!

[eastenderfan_91]

yer same probably

[Dr. Tangliss]

ok well i think it should drop down to what dr tangliss said about £50

Too right:p

[di marco]

So, for a colour tv £126.50
If you are blind : £63.25
If you have a black & white tv: £42!

Put's it all in prospective, doesn't it.

Me'h!

if you watch a lot of bbc then i dont think £126.50 is that much to pay. however i dont think you should pay that much less for a black and white tv, maybe £80 or £90, but you should def pay a lot less if youre blind as although you can hear it you cant see whats happening, i dont think you should pay more than £20 at the most, maybe even nothing at all

[eastenderfan_91]

if you watch a lot of bbc then i dont think £126.50 is that much to pay. however i dont think you should pay that much less for a black and white tv, maybe £80 or £90, but you should def pay a lot less if youre blind as although you can hear it you cant see whats happening, i dont think you should pay more than £20 at the most, maybe even nothing at all yer i agree

[di marco]

Deaf, you pay the full amount, as you can watch it and they provide subtitles!

if youre deaf i think you should pay the same amount as those with black and white tvs

[eastenderfan_91]

ok well i leave this thread now lol

[RealityGap]

So, for a colour tv £126.50
If you are blind : £63.25
If you have a black & white tv: £42!

Put's it all in prospective, doesn't it.

Me'h!

that is terribly unfair..........about how much a blind person pays verses a person with a b&w tv....

still don't think that at under 36pence per day the TV licence is too bad.......

[Dr. Tangliss]

if youre deaf i think you should pay the same amount as those with black and white tvs

Yeap, me too, and blind people should get it for free.

[RealityGap]

Yeap, me too, and blind people should get it for free.

I guess their argument would be that there would be sighted people in most blind peoples houses that watch the tv.........(I DON'T agree with this but I would guess this would be their defence)

[Dr. Tangliss]

I guess their argument would be that there would be sighted people in most blind peoples houses that watch the tv.........(I DON'T agree with this but I would guess this would be their defence)

That's true.

I remember a few years ago, a guy was taken to court as he refused to pay for his tv licence, on the grounds he did not watch BBC channels. When they examinied his tv, they found that he actually blocked BBC transmissions, and got away with it, lol!

[RealityGap]

That's true.

I remember a few years ago, a guy was taken to court as he refused to pay for his tv licence, on the grounds he did not watch BBC channels. When they examinied his tv, they found that he actually blocked BBC transmissions, and got away with it, lol!

I remember that too !

I just couldn't get through the day without cbeebies!! keeps my eldest happy for the while he is aloud to watch it and allows me to get some house work done....

[Dr. Tangliss]

I remember that too !

I just couldn't get through the day without cbeebies!! keeps my eldest happy for the while he is aloud to watch it and allows me to get some house work done....

What would we be like without the likes of Balamory, lol! Mine prefer Nick Jr, they likes Blue's Clues and Animal Alphabet.

[Jojo]

What would we be like without the likes of Balamory, lol! Mine prefer Nick Jr, they likes Blue's Clues and Animal Alphabet.Ci has really got into Nick Jr lately - Peppa Pig and (don't tell his daddy) Angelina Ballerina!!!

[di marco]

What would we be like without the likes of Balamory, lol! Mine prefer Nick Jr, they likes Blue's Clues and Animal Alphabet.

omg balamory, it treats little kids like theyre stupid! i like blues clues though............

[Dr. Tangliss]

Ci has really got into Nick Jr lately - Peppa Pig and (don't tell his daddy) Angelina Ballerina!!!

:rotfl: My son likes, Dora, much to his Daddy's dismay:rotfl:

[eastenderfan_91]

yer i no what you mean by balamory lol

[Dr. Tangliss]

omg balamory, it treats little kids like theyre stupid! i like blues clues though............

I prefer it too

[Jojo]

:rotfl: My son likes, Dora, much to his Daddy's dismay:rotfl:yep, Ci is currently watching that as we speak, whilst trying to swat a fly!!! :rotfl:

[di marco]

teletubbies does my head in too! and this other programme i saw once on cebeebies, dont know what it was called but the 2 people on there were acting like such idiots!

[$sTaCeY$]

I agree chance.. though I don't do the paying.. its like we pay for our lives..

I agree spicy, we shouldn't have to pay the goverment to live!!

[$sTaCeY$]

omg balamory, it treats little kids like theyre stupid! i like blues clues though............

I used to like blues clues, i used to sing the letter song all the time (we just got a letter, we just got a letter wonder who its from) :rotfl: ill have that song in my head now

[RealityGap]

teletubbies does my head in too! and this other programme i saw once on cebeebies, dont know what it was called but the 2 people on there were acting like such idiots!

mmm 2 people acting like idiots - that will be Higglty House - Sarah Jane and Justin (a part of Tikkabilla)

We dont have Nick Jr - but I know I am in the minority here - even if we did my little ones still wouldnt get to watch them. I like cbeebies and love the fact there is no adverts on it. Some of the show I *hate* like Roly Mole - but the kids seem to like most of them and there is an educational side to most of them

[Dr. Tangliss]

yep, Ci is currently watching that as we speak, whilst trying to swat a fly!!! :rotfl:

Awww, they are so sweet:rotfl:

[di marco]

I agree spicy, we shouldn't have to pay the goverment to live!!

i dont mean to offend, but thats a bit of a silly comment, seeing as we pay the government for lots of other things we do and we pay big companies for lots of things we buy, so really we pay lots of people to live if thats the case

[Jojo]

The main thing i try to remember is that these programmes are aimed at preschool children (cbeebies) and so what we find to be daft etc, are very educational and fun to watch for the little ones - the only one I really disagree with is Teletubbies, because of the speech side of things

[di marco]

mmm 2 people acting like idiots - that will be Higglty House - Sarah Jane and Justin (a part of Tikkabilla)

tikkabilla, thats it! yeh one of them was called sarah jane i seem to remember, that had to be the worst kiddies show ive ever seen!

[$sTaCeY$]

i dont mean to offend, but thats a bit of a silly comment, seeing as we pay the government for lots of other things we do and we pay big companies for lots of things we buy, so really we pay lots of people to live if thats the case

all way have to pay is VAT when we buy things the vat only goes to the goverment, i can't see the goverment doing much to make our world a better place so why should we give them money?

[di marco]

The main thing i try to remember is that these programmes are aimed at preschool children (cbeebies) and so what we find to be daft etc, are very educational and fun to watch for the little ones - the only one I really disagree with is Teletubbies, because of the speech side of things

i dont mind most kiddie shows, cos as you say little children like these sort of things, but some of them are so stupid, epsecially the ones with real people on, to me it seems theyre treating the kids like theyre stupid

[di marco]

all way have to pay is VAT when we buy things the vat only goes to the goverment, i can't see the goverment doing much to make our world a better place so why should we give them money?

what i mean is, we need food to live but we have to buy our food, we need heat and shelter to live but we still need to pay for our electricity and houses, so what im saying is its not only the government we are paying to live going by your comment but lots of other big rich companies too

[Jojo]

i dont mind most kiddie shows, cos as you say little children like these sort of things, but some of them are so stupid, epsecially the ones with real people on, to me it seems theyre treating the kids like theyre stupidit does sometimes, but preschool is classed as under 3 or 4....I always find that the tone of my voice changes when speaking to preschoolers changes in comparison to say, speaking to children the same age as my eldest for example..

[RealityGap]

The main thing i try to remember is that these programmes are aimed at preschool children (cbeebies) and so what we find to be daft etc, are very educational and fun to watch for the little ones - the only one I really disagree with is Teletubbies, because of the speech side of things

Its weird to think that teletubbies has been around for so so long (over 10 yrs)but it started when I was at college studying childrens nursing, and we looked into how teletubbies affected speach development - and it actually helped the children who were in the right age group for this as it made them mimic and articulate their sounds better - most people don't like the programme for the reason of the speech side of things - but when asked the age group the programme was aimed at they always said much higher than the target audience (18mths to 3yrs)

[Jojo]

Its weird to think that teletubbies has been around for so so long (over 10 yrs)but it started when I was at college studying childrens nursing, and we looked into how teletubbies affected speach development - and it actually helped the children who were in the right age group for this as it made them mimic and articulate their sounds better - most people don't like the programme for the reason of the speech side of things - but when asked the age group the programme was aimed at they always said much higher than the target audience (18mths to 3yrs)And its even weirder to think that Pui was Po!!!

This is what I mean though - as adults we don't like the programmes because of the way we interpret them, but psycologists (sp?) etc have been looking into helping child development through programming etc and studies have shown that it can help.

[Meh]

TBH, paying the BBC license fee is a yearly annoyance more than anything else. I'm more bothered about the tax on petrol.

[RealityGap]

And its even weirder to think that Pui was Po!!!

LOL this one gets me all the time too

And Justin - is Jake from the tweenies, and Sue is Dizzy from Bob the builder

[Jojo]

LOL this one gets me all the time too

And Justin - is Jake from the tweenies, and Sue is Dizzy from Bob the builderAnd the lovely Chris was Mr Mopple!!! Now where did Nicole come from?!

[Jojo]

TBH, paying the BBC license fee is a yearly annoyance more than anything else. I'm more bothered about the tax on petrol.Agreed - diesel used to be the cheapest fuel and now I'm paying 96p per litre and considering I have a 40 gallon tank :angry:

[RealityGap]

Agreed - diesel used to be the cheapest fuel and now I'm paying 96p per litre and considering I have a 40 gallon tank :angry:

we spend so much money on fuel its awful :angry: but hubby need to get to work and no public transprt isnt an option :(

[di marco]

we spend so much money on fuel its awful :angry: but hubby need to get to work and no public transprt isnt an option :(

we spend a fortune on petrol too! my dad gets the train to work but the bus system round my area is so awful that my mum has to drive him to the station and my sis to school

[Dr. Tangliss]

The main thing i try to remember is that these programmes are aimed at preschool children (cbeebies) and so what we find to be daft etc, are very educational and fun to watch for the little ones - the only one I really disagree with is Teletubbies, because of the speech side of things

Oh, and Boobahs!:thumbsdow

[$sTaCeY$]

TBH, paying the BBC license fee is a yearly annoyance more than anything else. I'm more bothered about the tax on petrol.

my dad spends about £45 in petrol to travel about 500 miles

[Dr. Tangliss]

Does anyonbe know why fuel goes up and down on a daily basis?

[Meh]

Does anyonbe know why fuel goes up and down on a daily basis?

Right now they are blaming Katrina.

[Dr. Tangliss]

Right now they are blaming Katrina.

Really, how come? Do we get most of our fuel from the states?

[RealityGap]

Oh, and Boobahs!:thumbsdow

Boobahs freak me out!!! they really geniunly spook me - my kids are blissfully unaware they exist!

[Meh]

Nope, something to do with the fact that oil refineries in the Gulf of Mexico have been destroyed, raising the oil prices in the states, which affects our economy. Because there is a projected shortfall, its made prices shoot up.

[Dr. Tangliss]

Boobahs freak me out!!! they really geniunly spook me - my kids are blissfully unaware they exist!

Lucky you, I wish mine were.:)

[RealityGap]

Does anyonbe know why fuel goes up and down on a daily basis?

it is to do with the market fluctuation on the price of a barrel of oil - if the price is high on the barrel then the petrol prices drop if it is low then it rises

[RealityGap]

Lucky you, I wish mine were.:)

LOL the joys of having 2 young toddlers (1 and 2 1/2) that dont realsie that kids ITV exsits (apart from when Thomas was on - my son adores Thomas)

[RealityGap]

Nope, something to do with the fact that oil refineries in the Gulf of Mexico have been destroyed, raising the oil prices in the states, which affects our economy. Because there is a projected shortfall, its made prices shoot up.

BUT it is all ok because Bush has said he is going to relise some federal reserves so it will be ok - do we believe him? Personally NO!!

I was chatting to an american friend who was complaing that their gas prices are $4 a gallon and set to be $5 by Christmas - our are set to be £1 a litre which equates to almost $7.50 by Christmas!!

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Oh, and Boobahs!:thumbsdow
Oh even the word sacares me!! I scream at my mum to change the channel!! They are just spooky I mean look:

http://www.nickjr.co.uk/shows/boohbah/media/boobahsSmall.jpg

On topic: Yeah so I disagree with paying TV when not watching.. you should pay for when you do watch!!

[Meh]

BUT it is all ok because Bush has said he is going to relise some federal reserves so it will be ok - do we believe him? Personally NO!!

I was chatting to an american friend who was complaing that their gas prices are $4 a gallon and set to be $5 by Christmas - our are set to be £1 a litre which equates to almost $7.50 by Christmas!!

£1/litre. I think its time for protest

[Dr. Tangliss]

Nope, something to do with the fact that oil refineries in the Gulf of Mexico have been destroyed, raising the oil prices in the states, which affects our economy. Because there is a projected shortfall, its made prices shoot up.

Really! Thanks for telling me, it's true that you learn something new every day :)

[Dr. Tangliss]

Oh even the word sacares me!! I scream at my mum to change the channel!! They are just spooky I mean look:

http://www.nickjr.co.uk/shows/boohbah/media/boobahsSmall.jpg

On topic: Yeah so I disagree with paying TV when not watching.. you should pay for when you do watch!!

:cartman: *runs away*

[RealityGap]

£1/litre. I think its time for protest

there are talks about protesting - one suggestion is not to buy from BP or Esso (the 2 biggest companys - although they are the same company!) and only buy from the supermarkets or Shell - as then BP/Esso will have to lower prices and then the others will have to match - they recon if you held out long enough we could push it back down to 65p a litre again......

[Dr. Tangliss]

Are we not the only country in the EU, that pays the highest amount on petrol, due to tax, etc?

[RealityGap]

Spicyspy - you are frightening us with the boobah pics.....please stop

[Dr. Tangliss]

Lol, tell me about it.

[RealityGap]

Are we not the only country in the EU, that pays the highest amount on petrol, due to tax, etc?

yip we do pay a shed load of tax on fuel!!

[Dr. Tangliss]

Why do we pay the most? Me'h, government.

[RealityGap]

Why do we pay the most? Me'h, government.

would be my guess! Norman Bates - can you shine any light on this?

[Meh]

would be my guess! Norman Bates - can you shine any light on this?

I think most of the Govts in Europe tax heavily on petrol, with the UK govt being the worst culprit

[Luna]

The cheapest ive seen it at here is 70p per litre but on a trip down to wales recently i noticed it was almost 1 pound - how can they chop and change the prices depending on where they are?

[RealityGap]

I think most of the Govts in Europe tax heavily on petrol, with the UK govt being the worst culprit

thank you kind sir......thats is what I thought but thought

[Meh]

The cheapest ive seen it at here is 70p per litre but on a trip down to wales recently i noticed it was almost 1 pound - how can they chop and change the prices depending on where they are?

70p a litre? Where?

My bike fills up on around 15 pounds which lasts me a couple of weeks at least

[RealityGap]

The cheapest ive seen it at here is 70p per litre but on a trip down to wales recently i noticed it was almost 1 pound - how can they chop and change the prices depending on where they are?

we are at 90p - the prices fluctated from region to region - just like the price of a pint of milk.

[Jade]

is some duty on fuel to do with environmental tax, they dont pay it in the states?

[alan45]

And guess what they spent £11.8 million quid of the Telly Tax on??????


TAXis to ferry their overpaid employees around in.

Source -: Daily Mail

[Meh]

Here's where the BBC say the license fee goes: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/

I think the bbc site is value for money

[RealityGap]

My bike fills up on around 15 pounds which lasts me a couple of weeks at least

sounds like heaven!! How much riding do you do though?

although I have only put £20 in my car in the last 5 weeks.....oh but wait a minute that is because I broke my arm and couldnt drive the money drinking thing!!

[Meh]

sounds like heaven!! How much riding do you do though?



A full tank will do me at least 230 miles - more if i'm on the motorway

[alan45]

Here's where the BBC say the license fee goes: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/

I think the bbc site is value for money

MMmm no mention of the junkets to foreign climes and weekly team building meetings in luxury hotels. :hmm:

The telly tax should be divided up equally between all the networks.

I do agree that BBC.co.uk is an excellent site and would go so far as to say that its one of the best internet sites around (present company excepted) :)

[RealityGap]

A full tank will do me at least 230 miles - more if i'm on the motorway

good mileage then

[DaVeyWaVey]

I came across this thread and thought I would post my thoughts...

As I am going to uni soon, I will have to start paying the BBC licence fee. I fully support the fee because I think the BBC provides a brilliant variety of programming, ranging from well produced and sophisticated dramas (Hustle, New Tricks, Waking The Dead, Spooks, Silent Witness to name a few) to providing informative and factual programming (Top Gear, The One Show, Crimewatch) reality TV (Strictly Come Dancing, The Apprentice) and the soaps (EastEnders, Doctors), as well as providing excellent sports coverage (Wimbledon, Formula 1). Whilst not all these programmes are to everyone's tastes, they do try and cater for everyone.

As well as this, they've offered high quality public services such as the BBC I Player where viewers can catch up on programmes at any time. This service is so much better than the shoddy ITV "Catch Up" Player, which is frankly quite a joke.

They have digital channels which try and cater for different audiences - the older, upmarket audience for BBC4, to catering for a young target audience of 16-34s on BBC3.

In these tough economic times, other terrestrial channels such as ITV1 will struggle to provide a variety of programming for its viewers and will stay safe, only sticking to the shows that rate well. The X Factor, Britain's Got Talent, Coronation Street etc. ITV will try and fill as many primetime hours as possible with these shows, as these are the only shows that do exceptionally well for them. They won't expand on their other genres, such as dramas.

If the licence fee was scrapped, then the BBC would face the same troubles as ITV if they started showing adverts.

My post is biased towards the BBC but I do think they make the effort to give us some great programming, that try and make everyone happy.

[Abbie]

I agree with you when you think about it like that, I do watch the bbc a lot
I do agree with it sort of, the only thing Im like a bit argh about it the fact uni is gonna be expensive enough

[DaVeyWaVey]

the only thing Im like a bit argh about it the fact uni is gonna be expensive enough

That's true and I doubt I will be watching much TV at uni, but I think I will use the BBC I Player quite a bit so I can catch up on programmes whenever it suits me.

[Abbie]

And then im like argh again cos my laptop seems to turn its self off/crash when I try and watch the i player.
It never used to it only did with the ITV one but now its doing in a lot more and its such a pain so im not sure what to do

[di marco]

in my first year we all had to have a separate license each which was a joke! though for the past 2 years we only needed 1 per house so it worked out as about £20 something each which isnt too bad i dont think. i watch bbc the most anyway

[Abigail]

I came across this thread and thought I would post my thoughts...

As I am going to uni soon, I will have to start paying the BBC licence fee. I fully support the fee because I think the BBC provides a brilliant variety of programming, ranging from well produced and sophisticated dramas (Hustle, New Tricks, Waking The Dead, Spooks, Silent Witness to name a few) to providing informative and factual programming (Top Gear, The One Show, Crimewatch) reality TV (Strictly Come Dancing, The Apprentice) and the soaps (EastEnders, Doctors), as well as providing excellent sports coverage (Wimbledon, Formula 1). Whilst not all these programmes are to everyone's tastes, they do try and cater for everyone.

As well as this, they've offered high quality public services such as the BBC I Player where viewers can catch up on programmes at any time. This service is so much better than the shoddy ITV "Catch Up" Player, which is frankly quite a joke.

They have digital channels which try and cater for different audiences - the older, upmarket audience for BBC4, to catering for a young target audience of 16-34s on BBC3.

In these tough economic times, other terrestrial channels such as ITV1 will struggle to provide a variety of programming for its viewers and will stay safe, only sticking to the shows that rate well. The X Factor, Britain's Got Talent, Coronation Street etc. ITV will try and fill as many primetime hours as possible with these shows, as these are the only shows that do exceptionally well for them. They won't expand on their other genres, such as dramas.

If the licence fee was scrapped, then the BBC would face the same troubles as ITV if they started showing adverts.

My post is biased towards the BBC but I do think they make the effort to give us some great programming, that try and make everyone happy.

I agree with everything you've said there. People go on about the BBC spending taxpayers money on this, that and t'other (yawn) yet forget about the standard and range of programs they produce.

As for a tv license at uni, I'll say this. If you live in halls you have to be given 24hours notice if someone wants to access your room.

[di marco]

I came across this thread and thought I would post my thoughts...

As I am going to uni soon, I will have to start paying the BBC licence fee. I fully support the fee because I think the BBC provides a brilliant variety of programming, ranging from well produced and sophisticated dramas (Hustle, New Tricks, Waking The Dead, Spooks, Silent Witness to name a few) to providing informative and factual programming (Top Gear, The One Show, Crimewatch) reality TV (Strictly Come Dancing, The Apprentice) and the soaps (EastEnders, Doctors), as well as providing excellent sports coverage (Wimbledon, Formula 1). Whilst not all these programmes are to everyone's tastes, they do try and cater for everyone.

As well as this, they've offered high quality public services such as the BBC I Player where viewers can catch up on programmes at any time. This service is so much better than the shoddy ITV "Catch Up" Player, which is frankly quite a joke.

They have digital channels which try and cater for different audiences - the older, upmarket audience for BBC4, to catering for a young target audience of 16-34s on BBC3.

In these tough economic times, other terrestrial channels such as ITV1 will struggle to provide a variety of programming for its viewers and will stay safe, only sticking to the shows that rate well. The X Factor, Britain's Got Talent, Coronation Street etc. ITV will try and fill as many primetime hours as possible with these shows, as these are the only shows that do exceptionally well for them. They won't expand on their other genres, such as dramas.

If the licence fee was scrapped, then the BBC would face the same troubles as ITV if they started showing adverts.

My post is biased towards the BBC but I do think they make the effort to give us some great programming, that try and make everyone happy.

I agree with everything you've said there. People go on about the BBC spending taxpayers money on this, that and t'other (yawn) yet forget about the standard and range of programs they produce.

i agree, i think the license fee is quite expensive but bbc is the channel i watch the most cos they have the best shows, i wouldnt want it to turn into itv if they stopped the license fee!


As for a tv license at uni, I'll say this. If you live in halls you have to be given 24hours notice if someone wants to access your room.

is that true for all unis? cos when i was living on campus they were always turning up to go in our rooms without letting us know beforehand

[Abigail]

I do believe so. If it was the university you're talking about, it could be because they gave you notice at the start of the year (via a letter) therefore they don't have to give notice the day before they go in.

They can't prove (if you do have a tv) that you're watching it without a license if its not plugged in to the mains and the aerial. I'm not advocating not having a license.

[di marco]

I do believe so. If it was the university you're talking about, it could be because they gave you notice at the start of the year (via a letter) therefore they don't have to give notice the day before they go in.

yeh it was the uni. theyd do it if they found things in our kitchen (like a bin we had stolen or something :rolleyes: ) and just decide to go into our rooms to check in there as well. or if they thought the kitchen was untidy they would get the head cleaner and then go and see how untidy our rooms were


They can't prove (if you do have a tv) that you're watching it without a license if its not plugged in to the mains and the aerial. I'm not advocating not having a license.

they cant prove it if you arent using it but if you are they can detect it on their tracker things they have