Current Episode Discussion - August to Oct

[Florijo]

Thinking about it now, Ruby may have gone to the Queen Vic because Stacey told her that everyone, including Johnny, had gone to the pub. I hope it is cleared up in tonights episode. It is little details like this that EastEnders still need to work on. I love the dramatic entrances in the Queen Vic but they have to be believable, like Sharon and Dennis' was when they came back in June.

[gazzer]

It was very unrealistic that Ruby went into the pub at that precise moment and i know most people love Banana Moon but i just cant stand the character... other than those scenes it was a very good episode... its definatly getting better.

[Richie_lecturer]

I agree with that. When did Ruby ever go in to the Queen Vic on her own before? And especially just at that moment - it was so false. And why should she believe Peggy instantly when no-one else does?

Absolutely. It wouldn't surprise me if all that support for Johnny at the start of the episode drains to Peggy at 8:02 tonight. I predicted Ruby entering through the Vic doors at the start of that scene. :rolleyes:

Sorry folks, for me it was another DREADFUL episode last night. James Payne is almost as bad as Rob Gittens when it comes to writing for EastEnders. That line from that bloke - "you trod on my face, just cos I spelt your name wrong" - ffs what a STUPID line. Wow I was put out of work cos you stamped on my nose, give over. Pathetic. Why did the guy have to come over to the Vic as well. He could've squared up to Johnny in Scarlet's and the reaction would have been the same. Pathetic again.

Nana Moon and Alfie, as usual excruciatingly bad and painful. Say no more. The sooner this gang go the better.

Sharon and Dennis an absolute snorefest for me I'm afraid. Chrissie and Jake as plain and irritating as usual. They have zero chemistry. I don't like

Doberman's acting much but it's still far better than Joel Beckett. He was good in the Office. Why is he so bad in EE?

Peggy was so awful tonight. Doing a John Major parading on a soapbox in the Market was absolutely dire.

Only highlight for me was Pat behind the mock bar, and a bit of Dot. There are only a precious few good characters left in EE now, and these are two them. My god what would EE be like without those two?

3.5-4
/10.


If it doesn't improve soon, the return of the Mitchells will either fall flat on its face, or it will only act as smoke and mirrors to the underlying problems this soap faces. Hopefully tonight's ep will be better, but last night's was just painful to watch for me in almost every sense of the word.

Believe me folks it is slowly improving, but I honestly don't believe it is out of the woods by any means. :(

[JustJodi]

Absolutely. It wouldn't surprise me if all that support for Johnny at the start of the episode drains to Peggy at 8:02 tonight. I predicted Ruby entering through the Vic doors at the start of that scene. :rolleyes:

Didn't think much of last night's episode I'm afraid. I thought the writing from James Payne was OK, but the characters and storylines got on my wick again. Only highlight for me was Pat behind the mock bar, and a bit of Dot. My god what would EE be like without those two?

5/10.

Pat and Dot u gotta love those two,, they are the MEAT AND VEG of this show.. they hold it together,, God love em both !!!:D :clap:

[JustJodi]

My guess is Ruby left school early and got to Walford early and figured if his dad wasn't at Scarlets he would be at the Vic ??? So I can see where it may be UNREALISTIC to some and Realistic to others,, depending on which angle u are looking ....:searchme:

[Angeltigger]

yes i agree the only ever time she has been in the pub is when it was st georges day and when the millers found out stacey dobbed them into the social.

But i was thinking her dad is going t be buying the vic soon and maybe she thinks she can go in or she was just looking for him

Ruby don't know about the pub as she has just come home from Broading School, i wonder why she came back!!!!!!!!!!! Also that man who Johnny beat up over a cake was very scareing- he was just sitting there so still and quite and he was the one in the pub and than peggy walked in

[dddMac1]

wonder how he is going to Explain that to Ruby

[JustJodi]

wonder how he is going to Explain that to Ruby

knowing Johnny he will probably lie thru his capped teeth...wonder if he will remember the promise he made to ruby some time back, that there would be NO MORE secrets between them :searchme: Oh since I was away for almost 3 weeks,, did Ruby ever find out that Danny torched their house ???:searchme:

[dddMac1]

i don't think she did find out

[Angeltigger]

Yeah we don't thinks she did find out here is the tread
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=25710

[angelblue]

I really enjoyed last nights espisode i thought peggy was an bit OTT in the square doing her little speech

I loved stacey her one liners and her hat great lmao

Loved the interaction between dennis and johnny i loved the way dennis decided too keep his wife sweet and still be dective at the same time over all loved the eppy :cheer: :cheer:

[Lizzie Brookes]

What I don't get is why Ruby believed Peggy. I don't think anyone else did. Anyway why should a man be judged by his past? I mean now Johnny's a perfectly ordnary guy - club manager complete with girlfriend and daughter, whatever his gangster life he certainly loves his family ulike Den. Does it actuallty matter about Andy or any of the things he did in the past - people move on. Anyway - I notice that Peggy was ll out to congraulate Sam for killing Den at first. I don't think she makes such a fuss about Phil and Grant being gangsters either.

[feelingyellow]

Anyway - I notice that Peggy was ll out to congraulate Sam for killing Den at first. I don't think she makes such a fuss about Phil and Grant being gangsters either.

yeah but they didn't do the EVIL thing of taking the pub AWAY from HER - it's a :nono:

[parkerman]

Can someone tell me how long the Queen Vic belonged to the Mitchells and how long it belonged to the Watts?

[Lizzie Brookes]

I love Watts but I can't stand the Mitchells - silly things.

[Richie_lecturer]

Can someone tell me how long the Queen Vic belonged to the Mitchells and how long it belonged to the Watts?

1985 - Watts.
1988 - Pat and Frank.
1989-1991 - Eddie Royle.
1991-Mitchells.

Then swapped between Watts and Mitchells between 2001 to present.

[Lizzie Brookes]

If Pat and Frank had it at one time surely Johnny can have it now. Better than those dum Mitchells.

[Richie_lecturer]

Another poor episode tonight, although slightly better than last night.

Only positives for me were Ian and Jane, Pat, and Johnny squaring upto Peggy. The rest was poor once again, such as the Millers and Juley, Peggy, etc.

4.5 / 10.

[angelblue]

Eddie royle wasnt he stabbed by dot son nick in the pub or the square and he died didnt if my memory serves me correctly :hmm:

[parkerman]

1985 - Watts.
1988 - Pat and Frank.
1989-1991 - Eddie Royle.
1991-Mitchells.

Then swapped between Watts and Mitchells between 2001 to present.
Thanks Richie.

[Richie_lecturer]

Eddie royle wasnt he stabbed by dot son nick in the pub or the square and he died didnt if my memory serves me correctly :hmm:

That is correct. Murdered by the wonderful Nick Cotton in 1991. :)

[BlackKat]

Pauline and Joe are so cute, :wub: I can't help but smile when they have a scene together. I like Joe -- I hope he doesn't turn out to have some deep, dark secret or anything like that, just a nice normal guy.

Martin should just kill Naomi. And Sonia. And then he should go out with Dawn. Sonia is such a selfish bitch, I hate her. Who the hell gets annoyed when their husband wants to spend some time with them?

Johnny was scary in the last scene -- I felt sorry for Peggy, :eek: Never thought that would happen. Ruby kind of annoyed me though -- I usually like her, but she irked me today, don't know why. I don't think she did anything wrong, I just didn't like her scenes.

Good episode I thought.

[Florijo]

Okish episode, I would not call it poor, in my opinion, but not great.

Good points:

- Joe and Pauline - I love them. Noticed Joe mentioned his daughters, I guess that might be a clue to them turning up soon?
- Pat and Peggy, especially Pat who is a star. :)
- Peggy being scared at the end of the episode. This may sound evil but, HAHAHAHAHA :cheer: :lol:
- Ian and Jane. Love them also. A nice normal EastEnders couple.
- Johnny. I really like him but he's leaving so I can't get too attached. :mad:

Bad points:

- Juley, Mickey and the stall. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I like Dawn, Mickey is fine in small doses but get rid of Juley, he's so annoying. :angry:
- Martin and Sonia. What happened to Sonia? Why is she being such a cow to Martin?

[alkalinetrio]

i enjoyed tonights episode

[_lil_hunni]

Tonights episode was boring except for the last bit with Jonny and Peggy. Too many of the irritating characters that I dont like.And hardly any characters I do like. Juley,Mickey,Jane,Tina,Ruby,sonia + martin,pauline,joe Too much of them for my liking:( It wasnt that well written either, give it 3/10 I much preferred Last nights episode.

[Bryan]

all i can say is welcome back the "real" jonny allen

[angelblue]

Loved the look at the end he means business :)

[Florijo]

Anyone else really liking Johnny? He works so much better as a gangster. Argh, it is so annoying he is leaving. I don't mind gangsters in EastEnders as long as they are believable and not rubbish like Andy 'the rubbish gangster' Hunter who was about as scary as the stuffed dolphin that is sitting on my bed.

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Okish episode, I would not call it poor, in my opinion, but not great.

Good points:

- Joe and Pauline - I love them. Noticed Joe mentioned his daughters, I guess that might be a clue to them turning up soon?
- Pat and Peggy, especially Pat who is a star. :)
- Peggy being scared at the end of the episode. This may sound evil but, HAHAHAHAHA :cheer: :lol:
- Ian and Jane. Love them also. A nice normal EastEnders couple.
- Johnny. I really like him but he's leaving so I can't get too attached. :mad:

Bad points:

- Juley, Mickey and the stall. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I like Dawn, Mickey is fine in small doses but get rid of Juley, he's so annoying. :angry:
- Martin and Sonia. What happened to Sonia? Why is she being such a cow to Martin?
Oh my god!! That's 100% exactly what I thought :cheer: Yay!! :D

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Anyone else really liking Johnny? He works so much better as a gangster. Argh, it is so annoying he is leaving. I don't mind gangsters in EastEnders as long as they are believable and not rubbish like Andy 'the rubbish gangster' Hunter who was about as scary as the stuffed dolphin that is sitting on my bed.
Lmao I agree with Andy and the stuffed doplhins :rotfl :rotfl: :rotfl:

I like Johnny too!! He's a great type of ganster :cheer:

[alan45]

That is correct. Murdered by the wonderful Nick Cotton in 1991. :) Now that was a scary guy not like the Pseudo-gangsters that roam the square today

[Johnny Allen]

all i can say is welcome back the "real" jonny allen

Exactly, we need the proper Johnny Allen back and tonight was just the start, Peggy is going to bring the worst out in him and so are the Mitchell brothers. Excellent.

[alkalinetrio]

going to get better now

[alan45]

Absolutely. It wouldn't surprise me if all that support for Johnny at the start of the episode drains to Peggy at 8:02 tonight. I predicted Ruby entering through the Vic doors at the start of that scene. :rolleyes:

Sorry folks, for me it was another DREADFUL episode last night. James Payne is almost as bad as Rob Gittens when it comes to writing for EastEnders. That line from that bloke - "you trod on my face, just cos I spelt your name wrong" - ffs what a STUPID line. Wow I was put out of work cos you stamped on my nose, give over. Pathetic. Why did the guy have to come over to the Vic as well. He could've squared up to Johnny in Scarlet's and the reaction would have been the same. Pathetic again.

Nana Moon and Alfie, as usual excruciatingly bad and painful. Say no more. The sooner this gang go the better.

Sharon and Dennis an absolute snorefest for me I'm afraid. Chrissie and Jake as plain and irritating as usual. They have zero chemistry. I don't like

Doberman's acting much but it's still far better than Joel Beckett. He was good in the Office. Why is he so bad in EE?

Peggy was so awful tonight. Doing a John Major parading on a soapbox in the Market was absolutely dire.

Only highlight for me was Pat behind the mock bar, and a bit of Dot. There are only a precious few good characters left in EE now, and these are two them. My god what would EE be like without those two?

3.5-4
/10.


If it doesn't improve soon, the return of the Mitchells will either fall flat on its face, or it will only act as smoke and mirrors to the underlying problems this soap faces. Hopefully tonight's ep will be better, but last night's was just painful to watch for me in almost every sense of the word.

Believe me folks it is slowly improving, but I honestly don't believe it is out of the woods by any means. :(
An excellent and honest critique of how Britains once favourite soap has slipped into the depths of mediocrity. Three producers within the year and save for the occasional glimmers of hope we are left with the same aimless plots. Every few weeks were are promised improvements which fail to materialise. The return of the poison dwarf was supposed to be yet another turnaround for EE. Sadly this did not live up to the over-hype. Similarly the promised return of Mah Boys will do nothing other than give a temporary boost in the ratings. EE needs to use the money to employ decent scriptwriters and get this soap back on track

[Richie_lecturer]

Thank you very much. :bow:

[feelingyellow]

loved the stacey and ruby and johnny and ruby scenes, love how ruby is discovering what her father is, what a stupid story johnny made up, he's so unbeliable.
liked the stall scenes, dawn was so cute with the little boy! :wub:
liked how johnny has come back as his 'gangster' self, the good johnny allen lasted long didn't it - about 5 - 6 months?

[Joanne]

I thought last nights episode was dire. I'm actually looking forward to Phil and Grant coming back to liven things up and I couldn't stand either of them before!

[crazygirl]

i cant wait for them to come back has i miss them both so much

[parkerman]

I have to agree with Richie. A few episodes ago it did look as though Eastenders might be digging its way out of its self-imposed mire, but the arrival of Peggy has shoved it right back down the hole. I just find her so irritating that I now find it difficult to watch. As for Alfie and Nana - please!!!

As Richie says the best characters in it these days are the old 'uns like Dot, Pat, Jim, Patrick, Pauline etc. The only "younger" character I have any time for is Dennis. He's so broody! Oh, and I also find Ian amusing.

Edit: P.s. How could I forget Stacey? She's brilliant.

[xXxJessxXx]

I thought last nights episode was dire

i thought it was rather boring. i looked at the clock and it said 10 past it felt like it should be nearly over. then i was like it must be over now and it as only 15 past! lol. it dragged on a bit. i must say peggy is to blame for it. God she does my head in . her return hasnt done nothing for me! if the return of phil and grant will be this bad then i think i will have to start taping it and fast forwarding those bits. lol

[Richie_lecturer]

liked how johnny has come back as his 'gangster' self, the good johnny allen lasted long didn't it - about 5 - 6 months?

It was OK but it's too little too late for me anyway (I know he's going). Johnny showed great promise at the beginning, bumping off the pantomine gangster over the flyover, but has since been ruined by the move towards his domestic side. Nice one EE, hang your heads in shame. A missed opportunity imo.

[Chris_2k11]

Afraid I missed last night's episode! :(

[shannisrules]

last nights episode was ok not the best but it certainly wasnt rubbish

[parkerman]

I've just found a quote in today's Daily Mirror "We Love Telly" magazine which sums up my view of the current Johnny/Ruby story line:

"For a soap that has shown such improvement recently, this story is so disappointingly inept, badly written and littered with so many cockney cliches that you half expect Dick Van Dyke to dance over the rooftops singing Chim Chim Cher-ee..."

Mind you, I wish the writer would say what he thinks and stop beating about the bush!

[Debs]

i missed last nights could someine fill me in??

[feelingyellow]

i missed last nights could someine fill me in??

the website gives a lot of info - > http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/eastenders/episodes/episode_content/episode20051014.shtml < - hope this helps :)

[Jessie Wallace]

Why don't you watch todays ominbus?

[alkalinetrio]

think ill be watching that:)

[Dutchgirl]

Missed friday's episode as well, so I'm defenitially watching th omnibus. Cannot do without a single episode.


http://bhani.punt.nl/upload/imgbim3.jpg

The real Ross!!

[Chris_2k11]

Wow, quite a few of us missed it lol

[alkalinetrio]

i watched them all just feel like watching them again:)

[Dutchgirl]

Stacey's nails were frightning, but she was so good to Ruby.

Peggy was genuinly sory for Ruby, she better watch out for Johnny tgough, he was so calm, that's always frightning when people act that way.:ninja:

[crazygirl]

i do hope ruby forgives johnny this week i cant stand anymore of her spoilt little brat ways, i want to see a smile back on her face

[Richie_lecturer]

Well that question should be answered in the spoilers section AFAIK. :)

[angelblue]

That a spoiler babe you have put in the general discussion richie_ lecture

[crazygirl]

are you refering to my post??
if so its not a spoiler

[melanielovesdennisrickman]

I hope Ruby forgives Johnny too!!
Can't wait untill tonight,but will be taping it,and will watch it later though!!

[crazygirl]

wonder if the 3rd buyer will be mentioned tonight

[Dutchgirl]

So are we building up suspension or what? Not!!!!:wall:

[Dutchgirl]

Any hint would be nice now. Please EE build up to something, all this other nonsense is killing me here, only thing that is worth watching now is the Ruby/ Johnny/Stacey line. I'm deeply disapointed!!!:crying:

[CrazyLea]

i thought ruby and stacey were well good tonight. i liked it when they trashed johnnys and when they found the gun.. the rest of the episode pretty much sucked

[Dutchgirl]

:angry: :angry: :angry: Bleh!

[Richie_lecturer]

I thought it was poor all round personally, except for a few nice scenes with Dot & Jim / Patrick & Yolande.

5/10.

[Dutchgirl]

Pocket money what is that all about, it is demeaning!!

[Jessie Wallace]

Brilliant Episode apart from any Peggy scenes. Ruby Stacey and Johnny brilliant, Dawn and Micky etc, amusing. Nana sweet as always, Jim Dot Patrick and Yolande, ok, made me smile in places, but then i like to see a woman get one over on a aman!
Keep it up Eastenders, loving the build up.

[xXxJessxXx]

i thought ruby and stacey were well good tonight. i liked it when they trashed johnnys and when they found the gun.. the rest of the episode pretty much sucked

i agree. the rest was boring but those bits were great. Ruby reminded myself of me when i get into a tantrum! the slightest thing makes me act like that sometimes. lol god knows how she must be feeling i'd be so distraught if i found out what she has just learnt.

how funny was Jonny though! His daughter has just found out that not only has he hurt people, he used to be a ganster, everything peggy said was true, he's used a gun on someone but he also killed someone! she stroms out in a balsing rage and when he gets home to see the place is trashed he thinks he's been burguled! :rotfl: how obvious was it that it was her! what did he expect for her to just smile sweetly up at him and say 'never mind, i dont care'. ruby now knows who her dad really is. the way he shouted when he came out from the house and yelled like that!

[BlackKat]

Well Billy has obviously done what everybody else only wishes they could -- forgotten all about Molfie. :rolleyes:

[crazygirl]

Brilliant Episode apart from any Peggy scenes. Ruby Stacey and Johnny brilliant, Dawn and Micky etc, amusing. Nana sweet as always, Jim Dot Patrick and Yolande, ok, made me smile in places, but then i like to see a woman get one over on a aman!
Keep it up Eastenders, loving the build up.dawn and mickey were not in it tonight :confused:

[Jessie Wallace]

Oh well, i'm getting confused as i was watching the onimbus from last week before it, and then again after, Sorry! Still enjoyed tonights tho.

[Chris_2k11]

Tonight's episode was ok I suppose, nothing special though.

[Florijo]

Good episode, not great, but good.

I loved the bit between Alfie and Pat in the Queen Vic near the end. They were talking about the 'Mitchell Liberation Front' and that Billy and Peggy were the 'active members'. Peggy is so delusional, and Billy too for that matter.

Ruby and Johnny were good. As was Stacey. Nice to see Patrick and Yolande again, and it is always nice to see Jim and Dot.

Martin and Sonia? Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

I wish I could be like Billy and Charlie and forget all about 'Molfie'. It still haunts me now. "Oooh Alfie". Shudders. :angry: :rolleyes:

[JustJodi]

So are we building up suspension or what? Not!!!!:wall:

Ruby and that gun !!!! whoooo.not sure what I think of Amy tho :searchme: But Tina gave her the typical "warning" stay on her end of the bar:clap:
Ahhhhh should be a real good week,, :)

[Jessie Wallace]

It was bizarre, Ruby looked good with a gun :eek:

[BlackKat]

So Johnny cheated on his wife for 10 years with Tina -- and now she gets all uppidity and warns the new girl off. :rolleyes: She knew what she was getting into. Tina's moved up the ranks into the position of wife/partner, and Johnny's going to be filling the gap she left behind.

[Jessie Wallace]

Yep, and she's younger and prettier than she is! Poor Tina

[littlemo]

Well Billy has obviously done what everybody else only wishes they could -- forgotten all about Molfie. :rolleyes:

I don't think he's forgotten, it's just there's more important things on his mind at the moment. He knows that Alfie isn't a bad man and I don't think Billy blames him for everything that's happened, he's the kind of character to blame himself rather than anyone else. Billy had to have expected the reaction from the rest of the people on the square. What has Phil ever done for any of them?

[parkerman]

What has Phil ever done for any of them?
'E's a Mitchell. So that makes it alright!

[Florijo]

Not a great episode.

Good points:

- Pat. Pam St Clement is a gem. :)
- Stacey. Always nice to see Stacey but I am beginning to think that Ruby is dragging her down a bit.
- Johnny. :) Shame he is leaving. :(
- Kat. Nice to see Kat again. :)
- Nice to see Patrick and Jim again. :)

Bad points:

- That naff cop. :rolleyes:
- Sonia and Martin. Please just split up and save us all this grief. Or if you can't do that then please just accept that couples can like different things.
- Ruby. I do want Ruby to stay and I do think she has potential but she seems to have regressed since she got back. I've not been too impressed with her acting either. I'll give her a break because she has had long periods away from the show but I'm not sure about Ruby anymore.
- Alfie and Nana. Not liking this.

I get the feeling that this week is just a filler week to prepare for next week.

[crazygirl]

peggy has got herself in deep water this time

[BlackKat]

Thought tonight's ep was really badly written -- not so much the actual storylines, but the dialogue was so clunky in some scenes. I'm thinking mostly of the Martin/Sonia storyline and the Patrick one. They came across as contrived.

So Johnny's character development so far is:

Shoved Andy off a bridge --> Old school gangster. Likes to keep order in community --> Family man, with a mistress who keeps threatening to leave 'forevah' --> Reformed wuss --> Slightly dodgy businessman --> Completely evil. Deforms prostitutes.

Ridiculous.

Tina is annoying me. Ruby hasn't impressed me either this week.

Martin should dump Sonia's selfish ass. "We were going to meet up." Oh, you mean like all those times he wanted to spend time with you and you were too busy with Naomi?

[Chris_2k11]

Didn't enjoy tonight's epi folks! :o

[CrazyLea]

i enjoyed it.. i liked nana hehe she was funny.. and stacey and ruby were great..

[crazygirl]

yea the best bit was when nana got arrested but other than that it was boring
but it will be boring all weeek now. the action starts next week

[littlemo]

There was a bit of banter with Alfie and Kat tonight, which I thought was nice. It's obvious Kat still cares what happens to Alfie and Nana. Alfie should just tell her that Nana's ill, I'm sure she'd be very supportive.

How pathetic was that police officer? an old woman steps on your foot and takes your hat off, and they arrest her. Why didn't he just walk off? I know we are supposed to be glad he fufilled one of her wishes, but still.. He must have been new on the job.

[JustJodi]

i enjoyed it.. i liked nana hehe she was funny.. and stacey and ruby were great..


I thought the whole episode was great,, the stripper was pathetic with Pat,, when she said BOO I lost it and laughed so hard,,, it was good it was good seeing Nana get her wish, bless her lil heart:love:

[Johnny Allen]

Not bad episode and liking the fact we get to see more of the real Johnny Allen.

[JustJodi]

Not bad episode and liking the fact we get to see more of the real Johnny Allen.

me too I love a "good " gangster character.. and Johnny is great... hes coming out of his DOMESTIC shell ,,,:thumbsup:

[alkalinetrio]

i enjoyed tonights episode nana moon was my favourite bit

[crazygirl]

she's good nana i liked it when she said 'im a wanted woman'

[Luna]

i missed nana kicking the police man :crying: i really wanted to see it

[parkerman]

Ruby really did my head in last night. I thought she was just dreadful. :wall:

I thought the Nana scenes were pathetic.

Sonia and Martin....aarrgghh!!

As you can see I wasn't impressed with last night's episode!

It's a good job Jim and Patrick were around that's all I can say.

[Keating's babe]

Ruby is hardly going to be jumping for joy her Dad is a gangster. Ooh I can see more fireworks between Johnny and Peggy. Great to see Billy Murray's talents being used for a change. :clap:

Great scenes between Nana and Alfie. It was nice to see Kat concerned for Nana. :cheer:

I thought Martin was out of order for not even showing to meet Sonia... especially seeing as it was his idea to go along. He should make more of an effort and if he truly doesn't like it then it doesn't really matter.

[brenda1971]

I loved the scenes with Nana stamping on that policemans foot and getting arrested.

[Debs]

missed tonights as mother was on the phone :mad: so will have to catch the omnibus!! what happened with stacey caught the bit where the police put herin police car

[JustJodi]

missed tonights as mother was on the phone :mad: so will have to catch the omnibus!! what happened with stacey caught the bit where the police put herin police car

Johnny had her busted he figured Ruby would come home IF he got her out,, Ruby basically told him off any way that he no longer had a daughter ( well along those lines at least ) I thought it was a good episode,, others thought it wasn't so good but I thought overall it was pretty good,,,:)

[Debs]

will watch in sunday and see if any good!

[feelingyellow]

quite a good episode.

thought ruby was fab, loved her last couple of lines about her mum and sister. :cheer:
patrick, jim, charlie :thumbsdow boring
liked the whole nana/alfie/kat scenes - so sweet :wub:
liked it with pat and the policeman - 'we've got a pevert here' :rotfl:

[kerry4nigel]

I loved Pat, that 'policeman' was so funny, he didn't even try and make it realistic. Pat sussed him straight away. Nana was hilarious as well. I'll miss her when she goes. I'm actually starting to like Alfie again now that all the kalfie/molfie rubbish is over. He's back to his comedy best again.

[Dutchgirl]

Sonia and martin, it looks realistic enough, thats what happens, but making him read a book he does not want to or go to the Tate, well, she's getting a bit arrogant there.:hmm: You either like to read or not, and if you're no into literature well, fair enough. I love to read but merely, thrillers though.:cool:

[JustJodi]

Sonia and martin, it looks realistic enough, thats what happens, but making him read a book he does not want to or go to the Tate, well, she's getting a bit arrogant there.:hmm: You either like to read or not, and if you're no into literature well, fair enough. I love to read but merely, thrillers though.:cool:

Personally I can see Sonia and Martin growing further and further apart, Sonia is "growing" and Martin seems to be happy with who he is and what he is and has no intention of changing,, I agree that Sonia is getting a bit arrogant ...

[littlemo]

Personally I can see Sonia and Martin growing further and further apart, Sonia is "growing" and Martin seems to be happy with who he is and what he is and has no intention of changing,, I agree that Sonia is getting a bit arrogant ...

Yes she can be a bit self involved. I understand she is trying to do something with her life and better herself, but just because those are her dreams, doesn't mean she can force Martin to have the same. They are very different people, with different interests. When they are together they should do something they both like, go clubbing together or out for a meal. You can see that Martin does try his best to be a good husband, but there's only so much he can do.

What's happening at the moment, is probably what a lot of people expected. Although she almost certainly would have encountered these problems if she had married Jamie. Martin much like (almost) everyone else in the square is just happy with earning a living and supporting his family. His stall has been handed down through generations for decades, and Pauline doesn't even seem to care that he hasn't got any ambitions for his life. Him minding the stall is his life as far as she's concerned. I'm very surprised that Sonia has had the ambition to do something with her life in these circumstances. So I am pleased with her. But she does have to think about Martin too, because made a commitment when she got married.

Even though they are very different, there is one thing they have in common, so watch this space hey!

[Dutchgirl]

Even though they are very different, there is one thing they have in common, so watch this space hey!

Yeah its aaccident waiting to happen, Sonia should of course better herself if she can, but she should think of Martin as well.:searchme:

[JustJodi]

Yeah its aaccident waiting to happen, Sonia should of course better herself if she can, but she should think of Martin as well.:searchme:

I am glad some one on the square is taking their education seriously, if Martin wants to be a couch potato or a bar fly then its up to them to work out their differences,, but watching them as of late is like watching a car accident in slow motion,, if those two do care about their marriage,, they need to get far away from Walford and work it out or they will be another divorce on the square ...communication is the KEY to any relationship,, they need to put that in practice

[parkerman]

Talking of Sonia, I'm sure Gus would like to read books and go to the Tate with her....Could they?

[JustJodi]

Talking of Sonia, I'm sure Gus would like to read books and go to the Tate with her....Could they?

Hmmmmmmm Gus would be a good buddy for Sonia,, you are right Parkerman, and ummm Gus would probably fall for Naomi :)

[crazygirl]

Hmmmmmmm Gus would be a good buddy for Sonia,, you are right Parkerman, and ummm Gus would probably fall for Naomi :)
gus and naomi.... i think they would make a fantastic couple

[JustJodi]

gus and naomi.... i think they would make a fantastic couple

However Gus is more "settled" and Naomi the "party girl".. but hey OPPOSITES attract...who knows what EE is supposed to be doing with Naomi.. nothing has been done with Gus character for some time,,, time to get the writers hustling:)

[Siobhan]

However Gus is more "settled" and Naomi the "party girl".. but hey OPPOSITES attract...who knows what EE is supposed to be doing with Naomi.. nothing has been done with Gus character for some time,,, time to get the writers hustling:)

wasn't Naomi making eyes at Gary last week????? Martin and Sonia are sweet couple but from the very beginning you could see they had nothing in common... I hope they last

[brenda1971]

I thought that Gus had been axed.

[JustJodi]

I thought that Gus had been axed.

:searchme: didn't hear about that.... any one ??? I mean they brought back that silly brother of his Juley.. Oh well :searchme:

[Dutchgirl]

:hmm: Gus and Sonia were an item before, Sonia got back with Jamie and then dumped Gus didn't she?

[Angeltigger]

Yeah Sonia did dump Gus

[JustJodi]

:hmm: Gus and Sonia were an item before, Sonia got back with Jamie and then dumped Gus didn't she?

I don't ever think Sonia considered her and Gus an item,, i think it was a bit one sided .. or at least that was my observation... :searchme:

[Dutchgirl]

Yeah could be, he did turn up with flowers but she said me and Jamie are back with each other, it would be out of character for her to knowingly dump him like that.

[JustJodi]

Yeah could be, he did turn up with flowers but she said me and Jamie are back with each other, it would be out of character for her to knowingly dump him like that.

DD if u remember Gus was always on the shy side, and he never really expressed his feelings to sonia, and like you said it would be out of character to do that to him( knowingly dump him ), so like I said it appeared to be one sided,, Gus was all:love: :love: and Sonia really didn't see him like that other than a good friend. Also remember Gus had a thing for poetry and sort of liked Robbie's wife ( what was her name ??)

[Abi]

Not a great episode today, in my opinion. It was ok, the car stuff was alright, but the rest wasn't that brilliant

[leanne27]

totally changing the subject here! lol but how can ruby fogive johnny so easily, she has just found out that her dad is a cold blooded killer, yes he helps little old ladies across the road, but he also throws people over bridges and chops peoples fingers off! im glad johnny is seen as the enemy for once, he is not the nice man people make out, i cant wait for him to get his compupence, i would actually like to see danny come back and threaten him the way he did danny.

[JustJodi]

I actually enjoyed this episode,, Ok Ruby was acting like a spoiled brat, hey shes a teenager( and she found out her daddy is a gangster, and may be responsible for her mom and sisters death )Peggy and Johnny. well I enjoyed their little banter, Ruby had a pretty nice car too bad she had to wreck Ian and Jim's cars... now Johnny is gonna have to shell out some serious money to get all 3 fixed:rolleyes:

In all honesty this episode wasn't BAD( come on gang we have seen alot worse than tonights episode). it wasn't GREAT .. good to see Minty and Gaz back.. missed those two chuckleheads !!!:rotfl:

Now we all know that Peggy is hiring a criminal lawyer for her two jail bird off spring,, should be an interesting week next week,,,,:hmm:

[Richie_lecturer]

Another poor episode. Apart from Jim and Patrick in the Vic I found it very poor one again. :( How predictable was that ending. :rolleyes:


P.S. Continuity error: Ruby's car was dry when she first saw it (bear in mind the roof was left open), yet at the end of the episode one could say from the bodywork that it had been raining heavily.
Poor work EE bosses. :thumbsdow

[BlackKat]

Dear EE writers,

Ricky Groves can act. Really, he can. So could you actually seem to recognise this and give him something resembling a storyline. And no, this ridiculous men behaving badly crap that's been going on since the dinosaurs doesn't count.

No love,
Kat.

PS. I'm kinda bored with Ruby. And Tina. And Johnny, if I am honest. It was a very nice car though.

[i_luv_dennis]

it is a lovely car i want one of those but in pink lol

[Florijo]

Not a great episode but I have seen worse. I'd rather watch an episode like tonights than an episode involving kidneys or fairgrounds.

Liked the bits between Peggy and Johnny. Naughty Peggy, hiring a dodgy lawyer.

Still liking Dawn but I wish Noami would disappear.

[BlackKat]

Still liking Dawn but I wish Noami would disappear.


Since when are they friends anyway? Have they even had a scene together before today? Does Naomi just latch onto random females that she sees -- or is it random females that have had boob jobs, :lol:

[Florijo]

Since when are they friends anyway? Have they even had a scene together before today? Does Naomi just latch onto random females that she sees -- or is it random females that have had boob jobs, :lol:

:lol: There is something about Naomi that is a bit wierd though. Maybe she will start hanging around Dawn now instead of Sonia.

[Dutchgirl]

DD if u remember Gus was always on the shy side, and he never really expressed his feelings to sonia, and like you said it would be out of character to do that to him( knowingly dump him ), so like I said it appeared to be one sided,, Gus was all:love: :love: and Sonia really didn't see him like that other than a good friend. Also remember Gus had a thing for poetry and sort of liked Robbie's wife ( what was her name ??)

Nita?!:hmm:

[i_luv_dennis]

yeah thats it i could'nt remember

[Dutchgirl]

Its always od to see Tracey on her own behind the bar, little Mo never to be seen, Chrissie, Jake? tuesday had Dennis though.:searchme:

[JustJodi]

Florijo]Not a great episode but I have seen worse. I'd rather watch an episode like tonights than an episode involving kidneys or fairgrounds.


I agree with u Flo.. we all have seen WORSE,, this one was just a tad better than some of the so called "fill in's" we have suffered the past few weeks..

[JustJodi]

Its always od to see Tracey on her own behind the bar, little Mo never to be seen, Chrissie, Jake? tuesday had Dennis though.:searchme:

yea come to think of it you are right DD Tracey pulling and serving alone,, yup.. odd that Chrissie isn't there making sure every thing was okie dokie.. or Sharon at least,, ah well,,,more exposure for an EXTRA

[JustJodi]

Nita?!:hmm:


BINGO give the girl a cigar,, thanks DD:cheer:

[i_luv_dennis]

i like dawn but i dont like how she is nasty to keith

[littlemo]

Yeah could be, he did turn up with flowers but she said me and Jamie are back with each other, it would be out of character for her to knowingly dump him like that.

Yes I thought that bit was out of character for Sonia. It wasn't all one sided, she had been sleeping with him. Maybe some people have sex with their friends, but he wasn't to blame for getting the wrong end of the stick. Sonia should have been clearer, that it was just a bit of fun. Throughout their relationship she was still in love with Jamie, and it was really unfair for her to use Gus in that way.

[littlemo]

i like dawn but i dont like how she is nasty to keith

I know she's being really unfair to him at the moment. Although I think tonight Keith was a bit over the top, saying he loved her and everything. I'm sure I would feel a bit odd about that. She's an adult, I don't think he should try to be a father figure to her. Dawn knows who her dad is, it would be nice if her and Keith could be friends but I don't think he should push things.

[Charmed]

Yeah,Dawn should be nicer than Keith!

Other than that I liked tonights ep! :D

[crazygirl]

that dirty rat johnny i thought something was going to happen tonight between him and that barmaid!
nice car ruby got was it ians car she smashed into?
dawn is doing my head in
naomi is just boring
but all in all it was another boring episode and it will be boring again tomorrow they are saving it all for next week!!

[Florijo]

I think this weeks episodes have highlighted a problem that I think that EastEnders still has. They are great at high drama but they still cannot quite get the 'filler' stuff quite right. IMO, no other soap can touch Easties, when it is on form, in the high drama stakes but Easties is not consistant. The 'filler' scenes are not great and are really boring and stale.

Garry and Minty are good characters and good actors, so why the hell do the writers persist in making them do this pathetic 'Men Behaving Badly' rubbish. I don't care that it was 400 (?) days since Garry last had a women, and I don't want to watch them spend all day in the pub getting drunk either. The writers made a mistake in not involving Minty in the Den murder storyline.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I think Ruby should forgive her dad and come home. He always loed his family despite his past. We all know he decied to put the past behind him and move on. A manshould not be judged by the past but by the present. I would actually have forgiven him straight away so long as hegaveme his word that he would never do anything dangerous again. I'm more like Stacey I suppose really. And Peggy was stupid to do that - you tread carefully around people like Johnny. You do't mess about with them, thenyou'll be fine. Chrissie, Peggy, Ruby they are all the same. Jake knows how to be careful.

[Lizzie Brookes]

i like dawn but i dont like how she is nasty to keith

Well I suppos it just varieswith different people. I get on with my stepmother like a house on fire. The strange thing is if you're not blood elated, sometimes you're less likely to row. My stepsister never rows with dad, and I never row ith my stepmother. Still I agree. Dawn should be nice to Keith after all Sgaron considers grissie as a mate. For me its different. I consider my biological mother as a mate and my stepmother as a mother figure but ell it varies I suppose.

[brenda1971]

I thought that Pauline was a bit interfering laying on the guilt trip with martin about rebecca.

[Luna]

she was!!! I found it weird that the grannie just showed up and asked them to go

[Chris_2k11]

One minute that Granny is asking them to stay away, next minute she wants them to see her! :rolleyes:

[Angeltigger]

Yeah how did she know where Sonia and martain lived, i never enjy last night one- maybe it because i have not watched it all week

[Florijo]

One minute that Granny is asking them to stay away, next minute she wants them to see her! :rolleyes:

I thought the granny offered to allow them to see Rebecca, but they decided not to?

[JustJodi]

Yeah how did she know where Sonia and martain lived, i never enjy last night one- maybe it because i have not watched it all week

remember sonia sent a card to Rebecca.. maybe there was a return address on the envelope ?????:hmm:

[JustJodi]

I thought the granny offered to allow them to see Rebecca, but they decided not to?

Last night Martin was not wanting to go,, but PAULINE laid on the guilt trip real thick,, so he decided to do what MOMMY asked him to do,, so I guess they WENT...

[Dutchgirl]

Last night Martin was not wanting to go,, but PAULINE laid on the guilt trip real thick,, so he decided to do what MOMMY asked him to do,, so I guess they WENT...
Oh yeah shw really played the monster in law part well there. (thanks for the phrase, saw it yesterday on the shoutbox):thumbsup:

[Behemoth]

That was a great episode!!

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Simply the best!!! Johnny scares me now... I looked up to him at first on the square all nice and helping everyone.. he scares me now :rotfl:

[shannisrules]

really good at the end! why didnt ruby come out and help peggy surely she heared her scream

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

She closed the kitchen door and put her hand (with her coat) by her ears.. surely she couldn't hear.. she didn't even scream, it was like whimpering sort of thing...

[shannisrules]

i suppose but she did scream when he first shut the door on her hand

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

True.. I was wondering that but then thought I think of an explanation!!

[alkalinetrio]

really good episode

[xCharliex]

Im not Peggy's biggest fan cos she is a cow! but that must'a hurt! That was out of order when Johnny did that!
And what he did to Ruby

[Chris_2k11]

1 2 3 4 5, once I caught a fish alive! :D :D

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

1 2 3 4 5, once I caught a fish alive! :D :D
:rotfl: Lmao oh yeah!! I was like :eek: What the... and then thought... :rotfl:

[Florijo]

Great end to a poor week. After tonight, I am so mad that they made Johnny all domesticated. Gangsters and criminals are great as long as they are believeable and played by good actors. Johnny has been wasted and EE has wasted the acting talents of Billy (Johnny).

Pat was great, as was Billy 'Not a real Mitchell' Mitchell. Peggy trying to recruit 'muscle' was funny. :lol:

[xCharliex]

1 2 3 4 5, once I caught a fish alive! :D :D

OMG that was sooooooo funny! :rotfl:

[Richie_lecturer]

It was better than some recent episodes, but still not particularly good imo.

Johnny was better tonight. Sadly too little too late as his character was already doomed. I wish Peggy's head was stuck in that door.

Ruby and Stacey and Peggy annoyed me as usual, and the rest was quite poor too, i.e. Gary and Minty, the 'Phil brigade' and Martin & Pauline.

Good writing though I thought. It seemed to flow a lot better tonight, thanks to Christopher Reason. For those who aren't old like I am, Christopher wrote the brilliant episode in 1988 when Kathy got raped by James Wilmott-Brown. Sadly current EE does not come within even a fingertip of matching that these days.

Tonight's episode rating: 5/10

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Lol oh yeah :rotfl: I am pretty angry they made Johhny like this, surely they could have left the evil to the past but now a changed man, like when he first arrived!!

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Tonight's episode rating: 5/10
Only?! :eek:

[Richie_lecturer]

So am I, he was great in the Bill as Don Beech. Then he came to EE and the writers/storyliners wrecked his character. What a huge waste. :angry:

[alan45]

Well done Johnny

[Richie_lecturer]

Only?! :eek:

I've been watching since day 1 and have seen the highs and the lows of EE, fortunately more highs, though pretty much non-stop lows for the last few years. Believe me if you think tonight's ep has been good, watch some of the classic episodes of the 80s and even much of the 90s. They really were magnificant.

[Richie_lecturer]

Well done Johnny

Absolutely. Like I said earlier, I wished he'd cut off the Poison Dwarf's poisonous fingers like he did to that pimp, as well as some other things. :eek:

[alan45]

I've been watching since day 1 and have seen the highs and the lows of EE, fortunately more highs, though pretty much non-stop lows for the last few years. Believe me if you think tonight's ep has been good, watch some of the classic episodes of the 80s and even much of the 90s. They really were magnificant.

I concur completely with you. That is why I give the impression of criticising EE. Its just that I know how good it was and is now a pale imitation

[Chris_2k11]

Yeah but the thing is alan, a lot of us didn't get the chance to see it all those years back, so we haven't really got anything to compare it to, if you know what I mean :searchme: The furthest back I can remember watching it is about 1996, or something like that.

[Richie_lecturer]

Well it was still really good in 1996 and pretty much for 6 years after that. Then it all went down the plughole.....

You're fully entitled to your opinion though, which I respect entirely. :)

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Yeah but the thing is alan, a lot of us didn't get the chance to see it all those years back, so we haven't really got anything to compare it to, if you know what I mean :searchme: The furthest back I can remember watching is about 1996, or something like that.
True, and with me about 1998.. when I was like 7 or something :rotfl: Mum and Dad used to watch it then but nowadays.. no only me!!

[angelblue]

oh i remember sharongate that was pure class their were some brilliant moments in ee over the year :)

[Bryan]

what a gripping episode! was expecting the bbc to suprise us by bringing backj grant and phil an episod early!

i offically hate jonny allen now, and i will do till he leaves, but it will be a love to hate siayiation, as billy murray is a fantastic actor and his character is brillaint, but how dare he hurt my two darlings: ruby and peggy, the best characters in walford

[Richie_lecturer]

True, and with me about 1998.. when I was like 7 or something :rotfl: Mum and Dad used to watch it then but nowadays.. no only me!!
Maybe that means your parents have fallen out of favour with the soap, just like many long-serving fans like myself and Alan.

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Only Ruby and Peggy you like?

[.:SpIcYsPy:.]

Maybe that means your parents have fallen out of favour with the soap, just like many long-serving fans like myself and Alan.
Dad scares me.. he knows whats going on without watching it!! He tells me spoilers I sometimes know or he gets there before me!!

Mum's to busy now with my sister and my lil brother to watch pretty much anything!!

[littlemo]

Brilliant episode! It had everything, lots of different storylines going on at the same time. Like a soap should be. I don't think there was any bit of it that I hated.

The Rebecca storyline- It seems to be a bit different this time. Margaret is in favour of the Fowlers seeing her now, and that's really nice. I think Martin and Sonia could be a significant part of their daughter's life. And the girl who plays Rebecca is really sweet.

I was very surprised at the way Johnny grabbed Ruby, and how he spoke to her. He's really losing it. The way they are remind me of the relationship Den and Sharon had. But Johnny is a lot worse than Den because Den never treated Sharon in the way that he behaved tonight.

Poor Peggy. I think she shouldn't have got involved with Johnny and Ruby's relationship, and kicked up a fuss like she has, but there is no excuse for what Johnny did tonight. He can be really evil sometimes.

A little interaction between Sharon and Dennis tonight about Phil. Dennis knows how much Sharon cared for Phil. There seems to be a lot of tension.

Lots of stuff to keep us glued to the screen!

[angelblue]

Yes the little interaction with dennis and sharon made me think even though they are married dennis is still jealous that her and phil were together i dont know why she would go back to him :hmm:

[littlemo]

Yes the little interaction with dennis and sharon made me think even though they are married dennis is still jealous that her and phil were together i dont know why she would go back to him :hmm:

Yes Dennis has always been jealous of Phil and Sharon's relationship. Most people probably remember when they had that conversation just before Den came back and before they got together. Dennis was asking Sharon how she could let Phil touch her etc., and you could see Dennis's blood boiling inside of him. Just the thought of them together was torture for him. I don't think all of that has gone away.

Dennis doesn't trust easily, he loves Sharon but I still think there's a part of him which feels that she could betray him. I don't think Sharon would go back to Phil now she's with Dennis. But she had affairs before, so it's not completely ridiculous.

[Dutchgirl]

Wow, Johnny was so scary, first grabbing Ruby, then letting the barnaid taking her clothes of and then friendly turning nasty with Peggy. Tina knows his dark ways, she said that he was reacting peculiar when Pat came round. Good acting by Billy Murray:bow:

[Dutchgirl]

Hey anyone noticed that the new barmaid of Scarlett's was in Spooks yesterday? As a nurse?

[angelblue]

Yes Dennis has always been jealous of Phil and Sharon's relationship. Most people probably remember when they had that conversation just before Den came back and before they got together. Dennis was asking Sharon how she could let Phil touch her etc., and you could see Dennis's blood boiling inside of him. Just the thought of them together was torture for him. I don't think all of that has gone away.

Dennis doesn't trust easily, he loves Sharon but I still think there's a part of him which feels that she could betray him. I don't think Sharon would go back to Phil now she's with Dennis. But she had affairs before, so it's not completely ridiculous.

Yeah and the spoiler we heard a about sharon it not going to do her any favours i dont think with dennis trusting her

But seen has he did marry her i think he does trust her i just think he is scared at the prospect of losing her but it nice he worries it show in an sense :o

[feelingyellow]

johnny is just pure evil! :angry: i hate him, i can't believe he did that! how exactly is that proving to ruby that he isn't a gangster no more, even from the kitchen she would have heard the whimpering and would have wondered what happened to peggy's hand.
liked the martin/rebecca stuff - it was so sweet! liked how magarat is letting them be part of her life now :wub:

[JustJodi]

Hey anyone noticed that the new barmaid of Scarlett's was in Spooks yesterday? As a nurse?

Now what is who it was ???? I wondered where I saw her,, thanks DD:)

[Dutchgirl]

So anyone know what her name is could not find it on IMDB, credits were not detailed enough.

[JustJodi]

Johnny let his true colors show tonight,, no wonder Ruby doesn't want any thing to do with him. Tonight he was one SCARY DUDE..
I wonder exactly how much Ruby heard about that oriental prostitute ( Johnny "confirmed" his involvement).

I did not like one bit of the Martin Pauline Margaret and Rebecca story line,, cos it bites,, keeping secrets from Sonia is not the way to go :nono: Pauline should STOP interfering in their marriage,, and she already knows things are rocky...and lying about the card was another :nono: And involving Martin,, now wait until the pictures come out, theres gonna be hell to PAY.
the rest of the episode was OK...:rolleyes:

[JustJodi]

So anyone know what her name is could not find it on IMDB, credits were not detailed enough.

didn't really check the credits .. darn

[Dutchgirl]

Johnny let his true colors show tonight,, no wonder Ruby doesn't want any thing to do with him. Tonight he was one SCARY DUDE..
I wonder exactly how much Ruby heard about that oriental prostitute ( Johnny "confirmed" his involvement).

I did not like one bit of the Martin Pauline Margaret and Rebecca story line,, cos it bites,, keeping secrets from Sonia is not the way to go :nono: Pauline should STOP interfering in their marriage,, and she already knows things are rocky...and lying about the card was another :nono: And involving Martin,, now wait until the pictures come out, theres gonna be hell to PAY.
the rest of the episode was OK...:rolleyes:
He's pure evil, Pauline is being an real Monster in law, she's very very interfering an old busybody. I wonder if it will backfire on her or on Martin?:angry:

[chance]

'come to tina,im your bad girl' LMFAO :rotfl:

Johnnys response was even funnier

[Dutchgirl]

'come to tina,im your bad girl' LMFAO :rotfl:

Johnnys response was even funnier
Yuck to much, she never spoke to him like that. I thought she was classier than that.

[Jojo]

I don't get why Peggy put her hand through to get the cards though!! She must have realised he would do something :searchme:

[kerry4nigel]

So anyone know what her name is could not find it on IMDB, credits were not detailed enough.
Her name on the EE credits is Nina Fry, dunno if this helps.. :)

[Florijo]

Even though Johnny treated Tina badly tonight, I don't really care much as I think her presence has ruined Johnny. I honestly think that Billy Murray would not be leaving EE if it was not for the fact that they made Johnny all domesticated. Johnny is a better character without her. Johnny was very scary when he grabbed Ruby like that. I can't believe he said he would break his own daughter. Scary. :eek:

I don't condone what Johnny did but where does Peggy get off using Ruby in her war with Johnny.

[Dutchgirl]

Ok thanks, her name only credits her as casualty and grange- Hill not Spooks, but I'm sure its her. I cannot sleep before I'm sure, it will keep bugging me now.

[leanne27]

i have hated johnny allan since he practically tortured jake and danny that night, but tonight was too far, poor peggy, i really like her and i love the elaosnship that enders have fromed between her and ruby, however i wish ruby had seen johnny when he was doing that to peggy, That way she would never forgive him. Has anybody noticed that he seems to have a split perosnality? he was genuinely nice to peggy, then turned evil, he has ceratainly got a few screws loose. Cant believe how that barmaid just stripped for him though, i thought she was someone flirty but as someone said before about tina classy at the same time, i dont reckon much to her now though.

[JustJodi]

Ok thanks, her name only credits her as casualty and grange- Hill not Spooks, but I'm sure its her. I cannot sleep before I'm sure, it will keep bugging me now. her credits may have not been updated yet with Spooks ???:searchme:

[Dutchgirl]

her credits may have not been updated yet with Spooks ???:searchme:
IMDB is nearly always up to speed with things but thank you for caring.:thumbsup:

[JustJodi]

I don't get why Peggy put her hand through to get the cards though!! She must have realised he would do something :searchme: or at least told him to PUT THEM THRU THE LETTER SLOT..:searchme:
one thing bothers me if i know my gangster/mobster stories ,, most of these men are dedicated to their childeren even tho they are awful to their wives and mistresses,, seems like Johnny has a bit of a problem mentally.. most gang leaders do not dirty their hands,, even old time gangsters let their flunkies do the dirty work,, okkkkk never mind:rolleyes:

[Dutchgirl]

or at least told him to PUT THEM THRU THE LETTER SLOT..:searchme:
one thing bothers me if i know my gangster/mobster stories ,, most of these men are dedicated to their childeren even tho they are awful to their wives and mistresses,, seems like Johnny has a bit of a problem mentally.. most gang leaders do not dirty their hands,, even old time gangsters let their flunkies do the dirty work,, okkkkk never mind:rolleyes:
Maybe something snapped?:eek:

[Carrie Bradshaw]

Maybe something snapped?:eek:
I think Johnny is slowly starting to go mad. He has lost control and can no longer keep the gangster parts and family parts of his life separate!!

[Carrie Bradshaw]

I was very surprised at the way Johnny grabbed Ruby, and how he spoke to her. He's really losing it. The way they are remind me of the relationship Den and Sharon had. But Johnny is a lot worse than Den because Den never treated Sharon in the way that he behaved tonight.
I can see what you mean here. I guess it shows that 'gangsters' cannot protect their families from who they are.

[parkerman]

I've been watching since day 1 and have seen the highs and the lows of EE, fortunately more highs, though pretty much non-stop lows for the last few years. Believe me if you think tonight's ep has been good, watch some of the classic episodes of the 80s and even much of the 90s. They really were magnificant.

I've not seen the last two episodes so I can't comment on Friday's which most people seem to think was a lot better than recent ones. However, as another who has watched since the first episode (though I did miss quite a few in the first couple of years), I agree with Richie and Alan. I'm sure the characterisation was much better back in the 80s and 90s. Characters like Nick Cotton, the old Den, Angie, Cindy, Arthur, Michelle, Ricky, Frank, Bianca, Ethel, Terry, Irene, Lofty, Mel, Steve....I could go on... all seemed so much better and somehow more real than many of today's crop, though I have to admit there were a few duff ones as well. I always thought Pete Beale couldn't act his way out of a paper bag and then there were Huw and his friend, whose name I can't remember. But also the story lines were more dynamic and gripping without resorting to over-dramatic and unreal situations.

[thetintinbloke]

re: "the good old days of enders" - hindsight and distance is fabulous - yeah, enders had its truly brilliant moments before, but we remember some with rose tinted spectacles - i can remember some of the crap as well - arthur going on a game show, tony hills or whateva his name was being a rubbish bisexual. enders will find its way again - and hopefully not just relying on old stars coming back (see grant, phil, den etc). Kate Harwood said in the radio times that they're concentrating more on character rather than silly storylines, i'll take her at her word, but they need some strong new characters soon before everyone leaves - in 2 years we will be anticipating the return of kat and alfie if they don't!!

[parkerman]

and then there were Huw and his friend, whose name I can't remember.

I've just remembered - it was Lenny.

[no1abbafan]

Scenes with Peggy were like a pantomime, Sorry but all this "round up as many heavies as you can" come on, then cut to Garry and Minty passed out. These storylines are rubbish - all to accomodate characters leaving. The birthday party was a bit rubbishy too, then deleting texts, another pile of rubbish. I am now at a stage where I dont care if I catch EE or not anymore.

[JustJodi]

Scenes with Peggy were like a pantomime, Sorry but all this "round up as many heavies as you can" come on, then cut to Garry and Minty passed out. These storylines are rubbish - all to accomodate characters leaving. The birthday party was a bit rubbishy too, then deleting texts, another pile of rubbish. I am now at a stage where I dont care if I catch EE or not anymore.

I thought Pauline was AGAIN out of line with MARTIN,, she is an interfering old busy body... Martin and Sonia's marriage is on the line as it is ,. they do not need a MONSTER IN LAW

[shannisrules]

i know pauline should have kept her nose out of it if she hadnt had persuaded martin he wouldnt have gone

[Bad Wolf]

i'm so pleased we are now seeing the really evil side of jonny (about ruddy time!) they should have made him that dark from the start

i though the scenes with him and ruby and peggy were really well done....everything before this was awful in comparison- he is actually menacing now...such a shame he is going

[melanielovesdennisrickman]

I really really enjoyed last night's episode!!
I know a lot of people are glad that Johnny did that to Peggy last night,but i actually felt really sorry for Peggy,and i thought that Johnyn was really out of order to Ruby!!

[willow]

i think it serves peggy right for stirring things up

[shannisrules]

peggy hasnt really sirred things up shes just been there for ruby when she wanted answers and a place to feel safe

[leanne27]

i totally agree with you shannisrules, peggy did not deserve to ahve her hand jammed in a door! people on this thread have earlier said that they think eastenders have done a bad job with johnny, i think they have done a really good job with his character, he came in the show really likeable and now he is hated! i think that is a really cleverly thought out storyline.

[alkalinetrio]

what a great ending that was phil looked more angrier then grant

[***Virgo***]

I loved that eppy!!! How brill at the end?

[Abi]

Fab!

I was great, can't wait untill tomorrow now...

[chance]

how excellent was that!!! have rewound it several times to watch back.eastenders is going to be back on top in no time at all with grant and phil back!! johnny doesnt know whats hit him.good on tina for warning peggy! even billys bit was great! brill!

[Debs]

that was good, quite looking forward to tomorrow now, just wish there had been more of the mitchell brothers tonight!

[Abi]

I hate it when they leave the big stuff untill the very end. I just want to see it!

[Debs]

yeah abi i start screaming at the tv!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! dont leave it there

[alkalinetrio]

2moz is going to rock haha

[Florijo]

That was great. Loved it when Chrissie said "I'm sure I can dig up something". :lol:

[Abi]

that was classic. I couldn't stop laughing...

[TreyAtwood]

Tonights Episode was absolutely Eastenders at its best! The best parts for me were Peggy confronting Johnny in his office and Grant and Phil coming back out of the car. " Hello Mum " Jokes!

[hannah-mj]

woweee! werent that great! ....gonna miss tommorow ..im at the NTA'S :D but cant wai to see what happens now! .....chrissie was funny tonight hehe x

[Timalay]

I thought Billy last line tonight was classic "Leave her alone or I'll wip your bleading head off" :rotfl:

[Florijo]

I thought Billy last line tonight was classic "Leave her alone or I'll wip your bleading head off" :rotfl:

This being the same Billy who was too scared to go back to the house last week without any 'muscle' (Garry and Minty) cos Peggy would murder him. He does try, bless him. :)

[shannisrules]

i loved the ending of that episode cant wait for tomorroes eppi now!

[matt1378]

great wasn't it, can't wait for tomorrows

edit -text talk

[feelingyellow]

good episode, loved the ending :cheer:

[?????]

And the NTA for soap goes to........EASTENDERS!

how good was that episode??? 'ello mum' - classic, chessy and predictable may it been but it was fricken brilliant. i was jumping up and down when grant come up, phil was like yeah whatever but then Grant came up and it was like yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[leanne27]

i did the same thing. chance!. rewound it to watch it again! lol (sad i know) it was brill, i felt so sory for peggy, johnny has sunk to a new low, i like tina bettre for warning peggy, this is exactly what enders needs, the mitchell boys are ack intown! they looked so threatening!

[feelingyellow]

i liked tina for trying to save peggy, but peggy could see this different as if she hadn't gone out of the house she wouldn't have been nearly beaten up by the man. she might think that tina was trying to make her get beaten up.

[suewoo]

excellent excellent excellent "hello mum" yes he's back

[JustJodi]

Whaooooo the boys are back,, yeeehawwwwww... now lets see what happens tomorrow,, should be verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry interesting for sure

[sarahwelford]

It was so so good well worth the wait and it will only get better is it werid i find grant attractive.
I loved the Ello mum

[_lil_hunni]

Loved that episode, Especially the scenes with Chrissie,dennis, at the dinner table, I thought it was hilarious "Anyone for pudding?" and "I'm sure I can dig up something!". Chrissie is so fabulous! Anyway and of course the Brilliant mitchell brothers return!!!Tommorows going to be great!

[littlemo]

It was so so good well worth the wait and it will only get better is it werid i find grant attractive.
I loved the Ello mum

No I think Grant is very attractive. I think it's partly because a lot of Ross Kemp comes out in Grant, and he seems like a such a nice bloke, when I see him on interviews. I also think he's got that rugid sexy quality to his character.

I thought tonight's episode was great! That scene at the dinner table between Dennis and Chrissie, how funny was that?! Dennis just blurts out at Sharon's birthday dinner. (Dennis to Chrissie) 'I killed a man once, now it's your turn'. Then Jake says something like 'right who's for icecream?' Talk about happy families!

How can Chrissie sleep at night?! Didn't it just make you want to throw up when she kept going on about how she thought of Sharon as her daughter? She's killed her dad, and now she's trying to make amends by throwing her a birthday party, how childish can you get!

Loved seeing Grant and Phil again, I can't wait to see it tomorrow night! They are brilliant characters, and I'm really glad they are back.

[sarahwelford]

I loved the i will see if i can dig some thing up

[littlemo]

I loved the i will see if i can dig some thing up

I think I'll have to watch it again on Sunday, because I don't think I got a lot of the euphanisms.

[sarahwelford]

i was literally crying of laughter at that line

[littlemo]

i was literally crying of laughter at that line

A lot of the stuff Dennis says cracks me up. I find him hilarious. He has no thought admitting to murder, in front of Chrissie and Jake, and Chrissie took it all in her stride didn't she?! She wasn't shocked at all. Maybe Sharon thought she was used to it, because she lived with Den for 7 years. There was a surprise around every corner with him.

[sarahwelford]

Yes he was like i murder someone now you.

And sharons line

You admitt murdering someone infront of my stepmum then ask herhas she murdered anyone recently if thats you being nice would nt like to see you being nasty

[littlemo]

Yes he was like i murder someone now you.

And sharons line

You admitt murdering someone infront of my stepmum then ask herhas she murdered anyone recently if thats you being nice would nt like to see you being nasty

Yes that was very funny too. It probably was Dennis being nice, he did try to restrain himself didn't he? Most of the time when Chrissie said something that rubbed him up the wrong way he walked out of the room, to get a drink. But I suppose there's only so much lying you can take before you can't stand it any longer.

[sarahwelford]

yes and by the end of the week sharon will be kicking herself for not trusting him

[littlemo]

yes and by the end of the week sharon will be kicking herself for not trusting him

I think that's a bit of a spoiler.

I wonder what Sharon offered Dennis in exchange for him coming to this dinner? It's probably not something that could be said on this board.

[squillyfer]

was tonights ee cut
one the ee website it says : As Sean challenges Billy, Phil and Grant appear. Grant drags Sean off and lays into him. Peggy's relieved to see that her boys are back.

But I didnt see grant do anything of the sort did they cut it or am I just being thick

[squillyfer]

just watched the preview clip its quiete funny

[JustJodi]

was tonights ee cut
one the ee website it says : As Sean challenges Billy, Phil and Grant appear. Grant drags Sean off and lays into him. Peggy's relieved to see that her boys are back.

But I didnt see grant do anything of the sort did they cut it or am I just being thick I was thinking the same thing didnt see Grant or Phil do any thing to Sean ...just Peg looking adoringly at her boys,, did u see her mouth PHIL,, :hmm:

[JustJodi]

I think that's a bit of a spoiler.

I wonder what Sharon offered Dennis in exchange for him coming to this dinner? It's probably not something that could be said on this board.
Lil Mo ,,, probably some horizonal mambo...

[littlemo]

Lil Mo ,,, probably some horizonal mambo...

I think it was a bit more specialised than that lol.

[JustJodi]

I think it was a bit more specialised than that lol.Oh I am sure it was a bit more special than that,, :p

[Sam Nixon Fan]

oooooo what an episode tonight, thought peggy would of had a bigger reaction to seeing them both, i hope they pick up tomorrows at exactly the same place, but unfortunatly im going to havwto wait till the end of the week to see it!!