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Monday, 2nd November - Patient threat
Sheila guiltily drives herself to exhaustion as she strives to atone for her actions during the fire but when Karl warns her that her blood pressure is spiking to alarming levels, Sheila refuses his advice to slow down. Instead, she confesses her sins and then angrily threatens to report him if he breaches patient confidentiality.
Tuesday, 3rd November - Brotherly betrayals
The three Brennan brothers have a massive falling out when Aaron and Tyler accuse Mark of keeping secrets from them because he doesn't trust them.
Also airing
Terese's health takes a turn for the worse.
Ramsay Street celebrates Melbourne Cup day.
Wednesday, 4th November - Sheila's surprise
Sheila gets a rude awkening when she interrogates Kyle's girlfriend, Shay, about the nature of her relationship with her grandson.
Also airing
Terese drives a wdege between Brad and Lauren.
Amy wakes up in a strange bed.
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Different spoilers:
Monday
Brad is drawn back to Terese; Sheila confesses her guilt to Karl; Mark is torn over what to do about Aaron.
Tuesday
The Brennan brothers are at odds; Lauren worries as Brad bonds with his family again; how sane is Steph?
Wednesday
Brad makes a difficult choice for his family and after a big night out Amy wakes up in the wrong person´s bed.
Thursday
Amy wrestles with the consequences of her night out; Hilary returns and causes problems; Sheila pushes to help Sonya with disastrous consequences.
Friday
Sheila is horrified when she realises she´s hit someone with her car; the school arsonist is revealed; Amy is torn over whether to report Paul.
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CuriousCase
19-10-2015, 05:32
So is Paul responsible for the fire?
Good to have Hilary back doing what she does best.
CuriousCase
19-10-2015, 05:32
So is Paul responsible for the fire?
Good to have Hilary back doing what she does best.
gillyH1981
19-10-2015, 09:30
Good to have Hilary back doing what she does best.
Hilary is only back for 1 episode.
Hilary is only back for 1 episode.
she isn't the one who set the fire?
Hilary is only back for 1 episode.
she isn't the one who set the fire?
gillyH1981
19-10-2015, 14:30
she isn't the one who set the fire?
No.
IamCamGee
19-10-2015, 22:51
I really hope Therese and Brad do not get back together , I have lots of questions wish there was more spoilers for November please
It may be immature of me, but I kinda hope Brad and Terese do get back together, just for Terese to dump him and see how he feels. She is worth so much more than him.
It may be immature of me, but I kinda hope Brad and Terese do get back together, just for Terese to dump him and see how he feels. She is worth so much more than him.
me too
It may be immature of me, but I kinda hope Brad and Terese do get back together, just for Terese to dump him and see how he feels. She is worth so much more than him.
me too
Sparklydee
20-10-2015, 18:43
me too
I don't hope they get back together but I hope she meets someone amazing and that Brad gets jealous and tries to get her back but she says thanks but no thanks 😀
ILTPandN
20-10-2015, 20:34
I don't hope they get back together but I hope she meets someone amazing and that Brad gets jealous and tries to get her back but she says thanks but no thanks 😀
I'd like either this, or the other suggestion here that they do get back together - but just for long enough for Terese to dump him!
tammyy2j
21-10-2015, 13:50
Terese deserves so much better than Brad
10079229
24-10-2015, 21:15
I also hope that Terese and Brad get back together so she can dump him! Lauren and Brad's affair was dreadful and their blatant disregard for their families feelings angers me so much. Lauren is a home wrecker! Brad is a dirty cheater! Can't stand them!!!
Ruffed_lemur
24-10-2015, 21:35
Terese deserves so much better than Brad
She does seem to love the guy though, whatever she deserves.
gillyH1981
25-10-2015, 15:52
Monday 2nd November - 7246
Lauren worries, as Brad spends time with Terese.
Sheila risks her health to help Toadie.
Mark compromises his principles to help Aaron.
Tuesday 3rd November - 7247
Mark learns from his past mistakes.
Terese's health takes a turn for the worse.
Just as she's starting to feel like a part of the community, Steph is given reason to doubt her sanity.
Wednesday 4th November - 7248
Brad promises to take care of Terese.
Amy wakes up in the wrong bed.
Sheila has an awkward first meeting with Shay, her new boss.
Steph can't live with Belinda's lack of trust.
Thursday 5th November - 7249
Amy turns to Paul for help but makes a shocking discovery.
Paul works hard to get Hilary on side.
Sheila pushes herself too hard - leading to a terrible accident.
Friday 6th November - 7250
Sheila's accident leads to a confession from the school arsonist.
Paul faces the consequences of his actions.
A call from Chris leads to a crisis of confidence for Nate.
Source: http://perfectblend.net/news/spoiler/thumbnails.htm
gillyH1981
25-10-2015, 15:55
They are making it look like Paul set the fire but it will be somoene else.
Sheila hits someone with her car. Wonder who it is and why her accident leads to a confession from the school arsonist.
TaintedLove
25-10-2015, 16:27
They are making it look like Paul set the fire but it will be somoene else.
Sheila hits someone with her car. Wonder who it is and why her accident leads to a confession from the school arsonist.
It wouldn`t surprise me if it was Sue Parker who set the fire. Or even her son (whose I can`t remember). And it could be either Sue Parker or her son that Sheila hits with the car.
That`s my guess anyway.
:D
gillyH1981
25-10-2015, 16:32
It wouldn`t surprise me if it was Sue Parker who set the fire. Or even her son (whose I can`t remember). And it could be either Sue Parker or her son that Sheila hits with the car.
That`s my guess anyway.
:D
Jayden is ruled out this week.
gillyH1981
25-10-2015, 21:53
Monday, 2nd November
Brad is still feeling guilty about saving Lauren from the fire aheah of Terese.
Karl warns Sheila she could have another heart attack.
Paul panics when he sees the front-page expose of his private email.
Tuesday, 3rd November
Tyler is stunned that Mark wants to stop Aaron from confessing about the fire.
Brad realises he's forgotten to pick up Lauren.
A specialist tells Toadie he could have an operation that will let him walk again.
Wednesday, 4th November
Amy and Kyle endure an awkward breakfast when he emerges with his 'friend', Shay.
Steph searches in vain for a phone but is sprung by Belinda.
When Brad says he wants to check on Terese, Paige thinks it's a bad idea.
Thursday, 5th November
Amy is caught on her walk of shame from Tyler's room.
Paul is forced to give Hilary a voice, as she represents the senior citzens.
While babysitting, Sheila pushes herself too hard.
Friday, 6th November
Ben makes a shocking revelation to Susan.
Finding Susan's school petition in her father's penthouse leads Amy to doubt Paul completely.
News of Chris and Lucy's new baby hits Nate hard.
Source: TV Week 26th October 2015
gillyH1981
25-10-2015, 21:57
Crash course
When a distracted Sheila takes her eyes off the road, an accident threatens to destroy her world.
She's already suffered on heath attack but is a trouble Sheila risking having another?
Tormented by the guilt of leaving Toadie (Ryan Moloney) behind in the school fire, Sheila's (Colette Mann) health hasn't been good in Neighbours.
She's constantly nervous, panicked and unable to focus.
If the Erinsborough busybody doesn't deal with it soon, she'll be heading straight back to the emergency room!
Ignoring Dr Karl's (Alan Fletcher) orders to take it easy, Sheila goes above and beyond to help Toadie and Sonya (Eve Morey) at home.
"She has a guilty conscious and is doing whatever she can to appease that," Ryan, 35, tell TV Week.
"She's trying ot help out by doing the washing, the cooking, the cleaning..."
When Sheila gets behind the wheel to run an errand, disaster strikes.
"Her guilty conscience gets the best of her and she's distracted- there's an incident," Ryan explains.
It seems Sheila has ploughed straight into something - or someone!
As she gets out of the vehicle to check what's happened, Sheila sees she struck schoolboy Ben (Felix Mallard). The teen has several broken ribs.
Furious with Sheila for not heeding his earlier advice, Karl tells her she has to face up to the source of her stress: her guilt at abandoning Toadie!
Another painful consequence of the school blaze is that Mark (Scott McGregor) believes his brother, Aaron (Matt Wilson), was involved in some way.
After coming across an incriminating photo of him, Mark pull hs sibling aside.
When the middle Brennan brother confesses to storing fertiliser at the school instead of at home, Mark advises him not to tell the police.
Struggling with what he sees as Mark's hypocrisy, their younger brother, Tyler (Travis Burns), hits the roof.
"He's really upset," Travis, 24, explains. "Tyler thinks Mark is showing he loves Aaron more than him - the brother who always stuffs up."
When Tyler was in trouble with the law, Mark didn't hesitate to haul him off to the cop shop. Now it's Aaron in hot water, it seems there's a different set of rules.
"He's not happy at all and confronts Mark about it," Travis reveals.
As the brothers argue yet again, will their dispute end in fisticuffs?
Source: TV Week 26th October 2015
gillyH1981
25-10-2015, 21:57
Amy coming out of Tyler's room could be totally innocent.
Tyler could have slept on the sofa and Amy slept in his bed.
Wonder why Aaron is storing storing fertiliser at the school?
After Sheila hits Ben with her car, it sounds like Ben confesses to starting the fire.
Sparklydee
25-10-2015, 22:41
"Paige thinks it's a bad idea."
I just know I'm going to throw something at the TV on Wednesday 4 November 😁
indigodance
26-10-2015, 08:28
I didn't like the comment on the other thread that Piper confesses to Lauren - add the pain on why don't you ....
Sparklydee
26-10-2015, 09:44
I didn't like the comment on the other thread that Piper confesses to Lauren - add the pain on why don't you ....
Which thread is that?
indigodance
26-10-2015, 11:21
Which thread is that?
Perdita - Neighbours (Aus) Spoilers 9th - 13th November 2015
indigodance
26-10-2015, 11:21
Which thread is that?
Perdita - Neighbours (Aus) Spoilers 9th - 13th November 2015
Sparklydee
26-10-2015, 11:40
Perdita - Neighbours (Aus) Spoilers 9th - 13th November 2015
Oh yes, I see it now. Yes, talk about adding the pain on! Although it also says Brad moves back home-I assume temporarily to take care of his family while Terese is ill-but that'll do, as long as it annoys Paige lol 😀
I just watched the latest episode. Holy ******* did anyone else just wanna scream "FINALLY!" when Imogen tore into Brad and Lauren? It was so satisfying! I had a smile on my face the whole time, finally someone spoke up, ok it was due to some pretty rubbish circumstances, but yes, they will possibly (and hopefully) start facing up to just how much pain they are causing everyone and I don't mean just with the fire.
Also, if it means Paige gets annoyed and upset, then it makes even more worth it! And when Lauren starts to get paranoid about Terese, I hope she finally feels a slither of what Terese was feeling for the longest time.
It came at the perfect time too. Like Brad just talking about how much pain they have caused...but no, that was thrown aside to confess his love for Lauren, but then boom, hurricane Imogen came in. Love it.
gillyH1981
26-10-2015, 13:11
Oh yes, I see it now. Yes, talk about adding the pain on! Although it also says Brad moves back home-I assume temporarily to take care of his family while Terese is ill-but that'll do, as long as it annoys Paige lol 😀
Brad returns home to look after Terese, after she was badly burnt in the fire.
Sparklydee
26-10-2015, 13:55
Brad returns home to look after Terese, after she was badly burnt in the fire.
Yes, thank u Gilly, for clarifying what I said 😀 so that will be after Terese collapses and is rushed to hospital, after Paige thinks it's a bad idea for Brad to check on her!
TaintedLove
26-10-2015, 14:30
I always knew Brad Willis was a spineless wimp, but he took spineless wimp to a new level when he saved Lauren before Terese in the fire. Wow.
And what makes it worse is that Terese had to watch Brad and Lauren leave together, and think she was going to die in the fire all alone. That was unforgivable. Terese is the Mother of his kids, and he should have saved her first. And then Brad had the gall to justify his actions by saying he went to save Terese but the firefighters wouldn`t let him the building. He didn`t put up much of a fight, the gutless swine.
I haven`t been much of a Terese fan since she arrived, but I am well and truly in her corner now. She`s a much better person than I could ever be if I had been in her position. I wouldn`t keep it quiet - I`d let the whole of Erinsborough know that he saved his lover before the Mother of his kids.
And now he wants to return home to look after Terese. Even there he is thinking about himself. He wants to show Ramsey Street that he`s a caring husband and father. While in reality he wants to absolve his guilt in what he did. As always, it`s about him.
If Lauren had any decency, she`d tell Brad to go back to his wife. Time will tell if she does.
:hmm:
NeighboursNutty
26-10-2015, 19:41
Lauren clearly wanted to change the subject in case he started doubting whether he done the right thing
I always knew Brad Willis was a spineless wimp, but he took spineless wimp to a new level when he saved Lauren before Terese in the fire. Wow.
And what makes it worse is that Terese had to watch Brad and Lauren leave together, and think she was going to die in the fire all alone. That was unforgivable. Terese is the Mother of his kids, and he should have saved her first. And then Brad had the gall to justify his actions by saying he went to save Terese but the firefighters wouldn`t let him the building. He didn`t put up much of a fight, the gutless swine.
I haven`t been much of a Terese fan since she arrived, but I am well and truly in her corner now. She`s a much better person than I could ever be if I had been in her position. I wouldn`t keep it quiet - I`d let the whole of Erinsborough know that he saved his lover before the Mother of his kids.
And now he wants to return home to look after Terese. Even there he is thinking about himself. He wants to show Ramsey Street that he`s a caring husband and father. While in reality he wants to absolve his guilt in what he did. As always, it`s about him.
If Lauren had any decency, she`d tell Brad to go back to his wife. Time will tell if she does.
:hmm:
Great post! :clap:
Great post! :clap:
The thing is aswell, once Brad knelt down next to Lauren, she pulled herself out and stood up...
He could have asked her if she could walk and then he could have help Terese. But he barely even looked at Terese. He went straight to Lauren, got her out, lifted her up and then acknowledged Terese. I don't think it was as hard as a decision as he makes it out to be.
Just me?
Ruffed_lemur
28-10-2015, 00:14
The thing is aswell, once Brad knelt down next to Lauren, she pulled herself out and stood up...
He could have asked her if she could walk and then he could have help Terese. But he barely even looked at Terese. He went straight to Lauren, got her out, lifted her up and then acknowledged Terese. I don't think it was as hard as a decision as he makes it out to be.
Just me?
I haven't seen it yet, but can understand his reaction. It's the firefighters job to rescue people anyway.
I haven't seen it yet, but can understand his reaction. It's the firefighters job to rescue people anyway.
Sometimes there is not the time to wait for firefighters and there have always been stories of untrained people rescuing friends/neighbours from burning houses
LollyCarpenter
28-10-2015, 07:02
Sorry, double posted by accident.
LollyCarpenter
28-10-2015, 07:02
I haven't seen it yet, but can understand his reaction. It's the firefighters job to rescue people anyway.
I heard that Brad said he couldn't life whatever it was on top of Therese and needed to get help so he ran out with Lauren and always intended to go back for Therese?
Sorry, double posted by accident.
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Yeah what was Brad supposed to do after he realized he couldn't lift the lockers? run out empty handed to get help??? What was the problem running out with Lauren?? At least he could save one there and then.... He tried to save Terese, but needed help????
binky321
28-10-2015, 15:07
Yeah I'm not Brad's biggest fan by any means but he really needs to explain what happened there and what his thought process was not allowing wrong assumptions to go as fact
tammyy2j
28-10-2015, 15:17
Did Brad go straight to Lauren first or to Terese, I think it was Lauren
Ruffed_lemur
28-10-2015, 16:51
Sometimes there is not the time to wait for firefighters and there have always been stories of untrained people rescuing friends/neighbours from burning houses
Oh I know, it's just that some on here think Brad's evil for not rescuing Terese. I believe he was going back for her anyway.
LollyCarpenter
29-10-2015, 03:59
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LollyCarpenter
29-10-2015, 04:10
Yeah I'm not Brad's biggest fan by any means but he really needs to explain what happened there and what his thought process was not allowing wrong assumptions to go as fact
He tried but he probably needs to try harder to make his family understand. Therese and Imogen are so angry that I don't think they want to hear his explanation. Maybe he needs to let them cool off a bit more, then when things have settled down Brad can sit with them and make them understand that he didn't leave Therese behind deliberately it was just a dangerous situation where he had to act quickly.
LollyCarpenter
29-10-2015, 04:10
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DiamondHeart
29-10-2015, 09:08
Brad didn't try hard enough to rescue Therese, he was too busy carrying Lauren out to even make the required effort to get his wife out from being trapped so she would burn. I saw it play out. He ran straight to Lauren, freed her and then lamented how he would come back later for Therese..
gillyH1981
29-10-2015, 15:08
Thursday, 5th November - School supporters
Paul's bid to close Erinsborough High hits a snag when he runs into opposition from the senior citzens group lead by his cousin, Hilary. Nothing Paul can say will sway Hilary's opinion until Paul throws a family lunch and warmed by Paul's appreciation of his relatives, Hilary promises to support his cause.
Friday, 6th November - Future or not
After learning of ex-boyfriend Chris' commitment to his new baby with Lucy, Nate questions Aaron's relationship with him and wonders if they have a future together.
Also airing
A car accident shakes up Sheila.
Amy is rocked by a discovery about Paul.
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He tried but he probably needs to try harder to make his family understand. Therese and Imogen are so angry that I don't think they want to hear his explanation. Maybe he needs to let them cool off a bit more, then when things have settled down Brad can sit with them and make them understand that he didn't leave Therese behind deliberately it was just a dangerous situation where he had to act quickly.
I haven't seen the episodes yet, but going by what everyone's said, Brad first instinct was to rescue Lauren. Terese - his wife of twenty years - was an afterthought. No doubt he still cares for her and would have gone back for her if necessary, but I can't blame Terese and Imogen for being angry he put his new girlfriend of five minutes first.
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I haven't seen the episodes yet, but going by what everyone's said, Brad first instinct was to rescue Lauren. Terese - his wife of twenty years - was an afterthought. No doubt he still cares for her and would have gone back for her if necessary, but I can't blame Terese and Imogen for being angry he put his new girlfriend of five minutes first.
From what I can remember, he ran straight to Lauren, moved the lockers a little, helped her out and up, picked her up and then shouted to Terese that he'd be back as he started walking out.
I can appreciate it's a difficult situation, but at least try and/or acknowledge Terese. He barely even tried to move the lockers, he tried one push and gave up.
Whereas Sonya was willing to practically die with Toadie if that's what it meant.
From what I can remember, he ran straight to Lauren, moved the lockers a little, helped her out and up, picked her up and then shouted to Terese that he'd be back as he started walking out.
I can appreciate it's a difficult situation, but at least try and/or acknowledge Terese. He barely even tried to move the lockers, he tried one push and gave up.
Whereas Sonya was willing to practically die with Toadie if that's what it meant.
Yes but Toadie and Sonya are together and in love with no one else involved..... bit of a difference.......
he did try to move the lockers but coudnt so he went over to Lauren grabbed her then told Therese he'd be back with help...... I don't think he did anything wrong...
Ruffed_lemur
31-10-2015, 13:30
Yes but Toadie and Sonya are together and in love with no one else involved..... bit of a difference.......
he did try to move the lockers but coudnt so he went over to Lauren grabbed her then told Therese he'd be back with help...... I don't think he did anything wrong...
I agree. He's not Superman, nor does he have fireproof clothing.
Yes but Toadie and Sonya are together and in love with no one else involved..... bit of a difference.......
he did try to move the lockers but coudnt so he went over to Lauren grabbed her then told Therese he'd be back with help...... I don't think he did anything wrong...
They have 3 kids together and 20 years worth of history, I think that's more than enough reason to care.
I agree. He's not Superman, nor does he have fireproof clothing.
no he is supersperm :p he didn't even try save terese his wife and mother of his 3 kids, he might have wanted her death too like matt
LollyCarpenter
31-10-2015, 20:24
Yes but Toadie and Sonya are together and in love with no one else involved..... bit of a difference.......
he did try to move the lockers but coudnt so he went over to Lauren grabbed her then told Therese he'd be back with help...... I don't think he did anything wrong...
I don't think he really did anything wrong. He made sure Therese knew he needed help and that he was going to come back for her before he took Lauren out. He was with Therese for a long time and they have kids together, he's not just going to abandon her when she's in danger like that. Brad can be a fool sometimes, but I don't think he could be that cruel.
Ruffed_lemur
31-10-2015, 21:25
no he is supersperm :p he didn't even try save terese his wife and mother of his 3 kids, he might have wanted her death too like matt
He did try and said he'd be back. He certainly doesn't want her dead. You really have got his character wrong. :wall:
Ruffed_lemur
31-10-2015, 21:26
They have 3 kids together and 20 years worth of history, I think that's more than enough reason to care.
He does care.
He did try and said he'd be back. He certainly doesn't want her dead. You really have got his character wrong. :wall:
brad and lauren have fans and are loved despite doing so much wrong
Ruffed_lemur
31-10-2015, 23:28
brad and lauren have fans and are loved despite doing so much wrong
Yes they do have fans, but not so many here it seems!
He did try and said he'd be back. He certainly doesn't want her dead. You really have got his character wrong. :wall:
He has cheated on EVERY woman he has ever been with. He was with Terese for 20 years, got together with Lauren 2 years (?) later, moved in right across from his family, even though he knew it would hurt his family with Terese.
He then flaunts his relationship with Lauren in public, practically blames Terese for pushing him into Laurens arms. Takes about two seconds to acknowledge how much hurt he has caused and then goes straight back to his feelings for Lauren.
And now it looks like he is going to try and re-establish some sort of relationship with Terese. A guy with morals? Don't think so.
They make him out to be a saint on the show, but his history and current actions say otherwise. He just seems like he can never be content with what he has.
And don't even get me started on Paige, it seems she got a lot of her selfish genes from her father.
Ruffed_lemur
01-11-2015, 13:31
He has cheated on EVERY woman he has ever been with. He was with Terese for 20 years, got together with Lauren 2 years (?) later, moved in right across from his family, even though he knew it would hurt his family with Terese.
He then flaunts his relationship with Lauren in public, practically blames Terese for pushing him into Laurens arms. Takes about two seconds to acknowledge how much hurt he has caused and then goes straight back to his feelings for Lauren.
And now it looks like he is going to try and re-establish some sort of relationship with Terese. A guy with morals? Don't think so.
They make him out to be a saint on the show, but his history and current actions say otherwise. He just seems like he can never be content with what he has.
And don't even get me started on Paige, it seems she got a lot of her selfish genes from her father.
Terese did push him into Lauren's arms.
Sparklydee
01-11-2015, 14:11
Terese did push him into Lauren's arms.
Oh yes, poor Brad. He's so hard done by when all he ever wanted was to be happy. Let's have a reality check here. Brad is being made out to be a poor long-suffering husband driven into the arms of his teenage sweetheart by his nagging shrew of a wife. Rubbish! The reality is that Brad is a long-time serial cheater and selfish idiot. He lost his job as gym manager due to teaching yoga on the side to pay for a private detective to find Paige-he kept that from Terese, also Lauren. It was Terese who made him tell Lauren. When Susan offered him a teaching job, for which he was qualified, he whinged about how he never wanted to be a teacher and had been previously pushed into it by Terese (ignoring the fact that someone clearly needed to have steady job earning money as Terese couldn't work for a while after she had the twins). Presumably he had to also pay child support for Ned-so studying marine biology wasn't gonna cut it. He could have done this part time or at night, but he didn't. So Terese had to tell him how it was and that their lifestyle and kids cost money-so basically take the job and be grateful. Then when he started to make surfboards again Terese supported him and she (and Paige, might I add!) tried to help him turn it into a business, so he could live his dream and make money at the same time. He wouldn't have had to teach if he did that, but he refused, as it was too much like hard work! Then he continually put Paige and Lauren first and whinged about Terese to them. Also, he glossed over the fact that Terese was really hurt by Paige trying to push him and Lauren together, didn't accept that Paige was a manipulative brat, and displayed a total lack of understanding about her feeling threatened and wanting Paige to leave with Mary. Then, when Terese developed a drinking problem due to the stress he caused her, he again whinged to Lauren, showed only a token amount of support to Terese and used the fact that she didn't attend her AA meeting as an excuse to storm out and sleep with Lauren. Oh yeah, poor Brad. What a prince 😂
Terese did push him into Lauren's arms.
Nope, sorry. No one forces anyone to cheat. That is a conscious choice made by Brad and Brad alone.
If he wanted to be with Lauren, the least he could have done was sat Terese down and talked to her before anything happened.
Terese isn't perfect, but she can't be blamed for her husband choosing to cheat! Along with Paige's manipulation and Brad and Lauren refusal to see Paige's true colours, no wonder Terese turned to drink, no one believed her when she said Paige was manipulative.
What about all the other times Brad cheated? Was he pushed into those womens arms too? Including when he cheated on Lauren? Was that Lauren's fault?
Brad thinks Terese gave him a rough deal by (like Sparklydee said) supporting his surf board dream and getting him into a steady job to support his family.
Nope, sorry, don't think so.
No one forced him to cheat, he made that decision himself.
I don´t have a problem with people falling out of love with their partners .. it happens, for a variety of reasons. But I believe that if you are attracted to somebody else, clearly there are issues in the current relationship and you need to sit down with your partner to discuss things. Sometimes things can be worked out and the attraction to somebody else goes .. if things can´t be worked out then finish your existing relationship before moving on! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/thumbs/smileys-thumbs-737311.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
tammyy2j
03-11-2015, 00:02
Terese did push him into Lauren's arms.
I'm sorry but Terese was right in her paranoia over Brad and Lauren, Lauren has wanted Brad since he moved next door so Terese didn't push them together and Brad will go with anyone boosting his ego and Paige was pulling strings also to get her real parents together :angry:
indigodance
03-11-2015, 12:36
When I hear the phrase "pushed in to someone's arms" - I always think that the perpetrator is just running away - not being pushed. For example Terese's assumptions on Lauren and Paige were correct. Her woman/mother instincts kicked in to see the threat - so like anyone under stress the barriers went up and the questions started to be asked ...... but like any one (so called "pushed") they run away and say its your fault you pushed me ...... in reality it is usually cos they wont own up, acknowledge or deal with the concerning issues .... Brad wanted the soft cushy life (like he had with Terese for 20 years as she was the high earner) .... as Terese was making him question his actions ..... she forced him out of his comfort zone ..... and his rebellion was to run ..... certainly not pushed .....
Ruffed_lemur
03-11-2015, 13:26
If you feel like you're being pushed / running away from a relationship, it's usually because there's something wrong with it.
When I hear the phrase "pushed in to someone's arms" - I always think that the perpetrator is just running away - not being pushed. For example Terese's assumptions on Lauren and Paige were correct. Her woman/mother instincts kicked in to see the threat - so like anyone under stress the barriers went up and the questions started to be asked ...... but like any one (so called "pushed") they run away and say its your fault you pushed me ...... in reality it is usually cos they wont own up, acknowledge or deal with the concerning issues .... Brad wanted the soft cushy life (like he had with Terese for 20 years as she was the high earner) .... as Terese was making him question his actions ..... she forced him out of his comfort zone ..... and his rebellion was to run ..... certainly not pushed .....
Preach! He was not pushed into anyone arms. He went to Lauren willingly. Like i've said so many times, Terese wasn't perfect but Brad is not one to be easily satisfied (proved by his inability to stay monogamous to any woman he has been with).
People blaming Terese for cheating need to question how they view cheating...
If someone I was dating cheated on me and said it was my fault they cheated in the first place...I'd struggle not to physically hurt them.
Sparklydee
03-11-2015, 13:45
If you feel like you're being pushed / running away from a relationship, it's usually because there's something wrong with it.
Yes but you do not have to run straight into the arms of another then blame your partner for making you do it! If something is wrong in the relationship there is usually fault on both sides and the mature thing is to sit down and talk it out, then decide what to do. You don't rush into the arms of someone else, claiming your partner drove you to it-that's just an excuse to justify bad behaviour. Although Brad is not mature and never will be.
Ruffed_lemur
03-11-2015, 19:04
Yes but you do not have to run straight into the arms of another then blame your partner for making you do it! If something is wrong in the relationship there is usually fault on both sides and the mature thing is to sit down and talk it out, then decide what to do. You don't rush into the arms of someone else, claiming your partner drove you to it-that's just an excuse to justify bad behaviour. Although Brad is not mature and never will be.
They have talked, many times.
It's not possible to push someone into another's arms. That implies they aren't autonomous human beings capable of making their own decisions. :wall:
It's certainly possible to push someone away with unreasonable behaviour, but - as other posters have pointed out - if you no longer love someone you ought to end the relationship before starting another.
Terese even gave Brad the opportunity to leave her when they separated for a while and she moved into Lassiters for several weeks. He chose not to.
Unless Terese physically took Brad over to Laurens bed and told them to sleep together, she can't be blamed for Brad CHOOSING to cheat.
If he wanted to be with Lauren so badly, do the decent thing and tell Terese and end things before moving on...
Cheating can't ever be justified in my eyes and in my opinion, people defending Brad and blaming Terese are justifying cheating...
They have 3 kids together and 20 years worth of history, I think that's more than enough reason to care.
who said he didn't care LOL.... he TRIED to move the locker.... did you actually watch it???
brad and lauren have fans and are loved despite doing so much wrong
What has that got to do with Brads actions in the fire??
What has that got to do with Brads actions in the fire??
i think i posted that as im surprised there is fans of brad and lauren
What has that got to do with Brads actions in the fire??
i think i posted that as im surprised there is fans of brad and lauren
Ruffed_lemur
08-11-2015, 15:37
i think i posted that as im surprised there is fans of brad and lauren
That's because they are not bad people. They're only human.
Ruffed_lemur
08-11-2015, 15:43
Preach! He was not pushed into anyone arms. He went to Lauren willingly. Like i've said so many times, Terese wasn't perfect but Brad is not one to be easily satisfied (proved by his inability to stay monogamous to any woman he has been with).
People blaming Terese for cheating need to question how they view cheating...
If someone I was dating cheated on me and said it was my fault they cheated in the first place...I'd struggle not to physically hurt them.
It would be very wrong to physically hurt them. Better to insult them.
Life is not black and white. I don't think Brad is a serial cheater. He has stuck with Terese for 20 years, and I believe she played a serious role in his cheating with Lauren.
i think i posted that as im surprised there is fans of brad and lauren
I agree. They're just not likeable, are they?
Characters don't need to be perfect for me to like them - in fact some of the best soap characters are downright bad sometimes (Naomi is a perfect example of this). Even the villains can be great to watch (I'm thinking of Paul when he's at his worst). I'm all for shades of grey.
In my opinion, Lauren and Brad could have been more sympathetic if written (and acted) better. I've sympathised before with soap characters who've had affairs (while at the same time condemning their behaviour), so it's not just the adultery that's the problem for me. Lauren and Brad don't have any chemistry at all (in my opinion) and appear to be almost completely self-centred and unsympathetic to the suffering they're causing. Plus I don't find them entertaining to watch (in contrast to Terese, who's not perfect but who has bags of personality).
They just don't have any redeeming features that make them likeable in my eyes.
indigodance
08-11-2015, 19:33
Terese (as an actress) has bags more talent than Lauren. Lauren is very plastic (like a barby doll) - her body language, facial expression and voice are all very monotone and boring - same ol' same without any actual acting (just a semi scowl when Terese is around). Men like Brad as they get older don't usually like the fresh challenges ladies like Terese bring into the relationship - hes lazy, boring and wants his cake and eat .... and then what's lefts .... just the crumbs no one wants ....
Terese (as an actress) has bags more talent than Lauren. Lauren is very plastic (like a barby doll) - her body language, facial expression and voice are all very monotone and boring - same ol' same without any actual acting (just a semi scowl when Terese is around).
I've never been a big fan of the new Lauren (or the actress, Kate Kendall), but I thought she was ok during the Paige storyline. I wonder if Kate dislikes the affair storyline as much as most of us do, and it's coming across in her wooden acting?
tammyy2j
08-11-2015, 21:21
It would be very wrong to physically hurt them. Better to insult them.
Life is not black and white. I don't think Brad is a serial cheater. He has stuck with Terese for 20 years, and I believe she played a serious role in his cheating with Lauren.
Terese was justified in her paranoia as Lauren was after Brad as you said Brad never cheated with Terese for over 20 years but when Lauren chases him and offers herself up to him he cheats
It would be very wrong to physically hurt them. Better to insult them.
Life is not black and white. I don't think Brad is a serial cheater. He has stuck with Terese for 20 years, and I believe she played a serious role in his cheating with Lauren.
Brad's not a serial cheater? That's why he has cheated on EVERY women he has ever been with?
Does he deserve a medal because for 20 years he was actually satisfied and as soon as things got a little rocky he decided to move on, yup, sounds like a great guy to me!
Terese's actions, whilst sometimes dramatic, turned out to be justified in the end and her actions right now are outstanding, it can't be easy watching your recent ex of 20 years moving on so quickly...
Plus, with Paige's manipulation, can you blame her for being so paranoid?
I agree. They're just not likeable, are they?
Characters don't need to be perfect for me to like them - in fact some of the best soap characters are downright bad sometimes (Naomi is a perfect example of this). Even the villains can be great to watch (I'm thinking of Paul when he's at his worst). I'm all for shades of grey.
In my opinion, Lauren and Brad could have been more sympathetic if written (and acted) better. I've sympathised before with soap characters who've had affairs (while at the same time condemning their behaviour), so it's not just the adultery that's the problem for me. Lauren and Brad don't have any chemistry at all (in my opinion) and appear to be almost completely self-centred and unsympathetic to the suffering they're causing. Plus I don't find them entertaining to watch (in contrast to Terese, who's not perfect but who has bags of personality).
They just don't have any redeeming features that make them likeable in my eyes.
Oh well guys, I guess you'l just have to stay suprised..... I might not like the way it happened with them, but I do think they are a better couple..... Therese might not have pushed them together but she surely did a good job of pushing Brad away....
Brad's not a serial cheater? That's why he has cheated on EVERY women he has ever been with?
Does he deserve a medal because for 20 years he was actually satisfied and as soon as things got a little rocky he decided to move on, yup, sounds like a great guy to me!
Terese's actions, whilst sometimes dramatic, turned out to be justified in the end and her actions right now are outstanding, it can't be easy watching your recent ex of 20 years moving on so quickly...
Plus, with Paige's manipulation, can you blame her for being so paranoid?
Didnt she get a little close with Esra a long while ago??? I didn't think Brad moved on then.....and Im sure it would've been a little rocky....
Terese (as an actress) has bags more talent than Lauren. Lauren is very plastic (like a barby doll) - her body language, facial expression and voice are all very monotone and boring - same ol' same without any actual acting (just a semi scowl when Terese is around). Men like Brad as they get older don't usually like the fresh challenges ladies like Terese bring into the relationship - hes lazy, boring and wants his cake and eat .... and then what's lefts .... just the crumbs no one wants ....
Hmmm I don't think so... There is something about Rebecca now shes all grown up that her emotions seem forced.....
Sparklydee
09-11-2015, 00:15
Didnt she get a little close with Esra a long while ago??? I didn't think Brad moved on then.....and Im sure it would've been a little rocky....
There is a bit of a back story about how she almost kissed Ezra when working in Perth and they separated over it as Brad was jealous, then he was jealous of her friendship with Paul when they moved to Erinsborough, also the time Ezra came back, Brad let Terese move out of home because of The Kiss in Adelaide and was a jerk to Terese about Ezra until he found out she had nearly been sexually assaulted. Terese isn't the only one who has let her jealousy get the better of her and we don't know who instigated the reconciliation the first time they separated in Perth-frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that Brad had slept with Beth during that time 😀 maybe that will come out if and when Ned is cast 😀
indigodance
09-11-2015, 10:05
Terese isn't the only one who has let her jealousy get the better of her and we don't know who instigated the reconciliation the first time they separated in Perth-frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that Brad had slept with Beth during that time 😀 maybe that will come out if and when Ned is cast 😀
ohhhh would look forward to seeing that scenario played out !!!!!
indigodance
09-11-2015, 10:05
Terese isn't the only one who has let her jealousy get the better of her and we don't know who instigated the reconciliation the first time they separated in Perth-frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that Brad had slept with Beth during that time 😀 maybe that will come out if and when Ned is cast 😀
ohhhh would look forward to seeing that scenario played out !!!!!
Therese might not have pushed them together but she surely did a good job of pushing Brad away....
Since Brad's faithlessness caused the worst of Terese's behaviour, I really don't see how she can bear much blame for pushing him away. Quite naturally, she was angry, insecure and jealous that he had feelings for another woman. Her behaviour wasn't perfect by any means, but it was in reaction to his even worse behaviour. Before meeting Lauren again, Brad had apparently lived with Terese in reasonable contentment (with just the occasional up and down) for twenty years despite her strong personality and sometimes downright pushiness.
Anyway, I don't think anything Terese did or didn't do would have made any difference in the long run as to whether he cheated with Lauren.
indigodance
10-11-2015, 08:25
I think Brads affection to Lauren just comes back to long lost youth and what might have been - just living in the dream. How many in real life hook up via Facebook etc and Friends United etc .... and start affairs only to find out it wasn't meant to be .... he only sought her out after they met up in Ramsey Street (the twinkle in his eye was already there before they knew about Paige).... if he was that entrenched in long lost love he would have sought her out long ago.
Sparklydee
10-11-2015, 08:50
I think Brads affection to Lauren just comes back to long lost youth and what might have been - just living in the dream. How many in real life hook up via Facebook etc and Friends United etc .... and start affairs only to find out it wasn't meant to be .... he only sought her out after they met up in Ramsey Street (the twinkle in his eye was already there before they knew about Paige).... if he was that entrenched in long lost love he would have sought her out long ago.
Yes I agree, he probably wouldn't have given her another thought if they hadn't both moved back to Ramsay St. Brad is lazy lol proximity is everything and it's convenient having his ex across the street so it's easy to re-live his youth. If he'd known about Paige when Lauren was pregnant I very much doubt they'd still be a united family, he'd probably have left Lauren for someone else and Paige would have been like Ned appears to be now 😀
LollyCarpenter
10-11-2015, 10:08
Yes I agree, he probably wouldn't have given her another thought if they hadn't both moved back to Ramsay St. Brad is lazy lol proximity is everything and it's convenient having his ex across the street so it's easy to re-live his youth. If he'd known about Paige when Lauren was pregnant I very much doubt they'd still be a united family, he'd probably have left Lauren for someone else and Paige would have been like Ned appears to be now ��
I agree. Brad has always been immature when it comes to relationships and goes with whatever is the easiest option at the time. He has two intelligent, beautiful women fighting over him and he's leading them both on, even if he thinks he doesnt mean to. I think in the end he'll go back to Terese and reconnect with his family.
There is a bit of a back story about how she almost kissed Ezra when working in Perth and they separated over it as Brad was jealous, then he was jealous of her friendship with Paul when they moved to Erinsborough, also the time Ezra came back, Brad let Terese move out of home because of The Kiss in Adelaide and was a jerk to Terese about Ezra until he found out she had nearly been sexually assaulted. Terese isn't the only one who has let her jealousy get the better of her and we don't know who instigated the reconciliation the first time they separated in Perth-frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that Brad had slept with Beth during that time 😀 maybe that will come out if and when Ned is cast 😀
Yeah alot of ifs in there..... of course he wouldve gotten jelous, who wouldn't he didn't move on tho.....
Since Brad's faithlessness caused the worst of Terese's behaviour, I really don't see how she can bear much blame for pushing him away. Quite naturally, she was angry, insecure and jealous that he had feelings for another woman. Her behaviour wasn't perfect by any means, but it was in reaction to his even worse behaviour. Before meeting Lauren again, Brad had apparently lived with Terese in reasonable contentment (with just the occasional up and down) for twenty years despite her strong personality and sometimes downright pushiness.
Anyway, I don't think anything Terese did or didn't do would have made any difference in the long run as to whether he cheated with Lauren.
Possibly not but she did push him away..... Brad didn't always show that he had feelings for Lauren, Terese was just always convinced that he did......yes they spent time because of Paige but it was never hot or heavy or even real flirty........
tammyy2j
10-11-2015, 14:02
Lauren has always wanted Brad I even think if Matt was still alive she would have cheated on him with Brad
Possibly not but she did push him away..... Brad didn't always show that he had feelings for Lauren, Terese was just always convinced that he did......yes they spent time because of Paige but it was never hot or heavy or even real flirty........
That's just not how it went down. Terese was not jealous of Lauren at first. This is a quote from Perfect Blend:
Though Terese was secure in her marriage, and had no problem accepting Brad's old flame living across the street, Lauren found it slightly more difficult to deal with, failing to tell her husband Matt about any of it.
http://perfectblend.net/neighbourhood/bio/willis-terese.htm
Terese started to become insecure after finding out about Paige, but the kiss between Brad and Lauren in Adelaide is what really caused their marriage to start falling apart. That kiss was definitely hot, heavy and flirty!
Terese has behaved badly at times and that certainly didn't help the situation, but blaming her for the breakdown of her marriage doesn't make sense.
Sparklydee
10-11-2015, 20:08
Anyone know that Lily Allen song with the line, "Spreading your seed all over the town, getting too greedy and messing around." For some reason that song plays in my head lately when I see Brad. Or maybe it's Paul trying to gaslight me lol ����
Sparklydee
10-11-2015, 20:08
Anyone know that Lily Allen song with the line, "Spreading your seed all over the town, getting too greedy and messing around." For some reason that song plays in my head lately when I see Brad. Or maybe it's Paul trying to gaslight me lol 😜😂
That's just not how it went down. Terese was not jealous of Lauren at first. This is a quote from Perfect Blend:
http://perfectblend.net/neighbourhood/bio/willis-terese.htm (\\"http://perfectblend.net/neighbourhood/bio/willis-terese.htm\\")
Terese started to become insecure after finding out about Paige, but the kiss between Brad and Lauren in Adelaide is what really caused their marriage to start falling apart. That kiss was definitely hot, heavy and flirty!
Terese has behaved badly at times and that certainly didn't help the situation, but blaming her for the breakdown of her marriage doesn't make sense.
Well of course Terese didn't at first because there was no ties between them but yes as soon as she found out about Paige she became paranoid but Lauren and Brad weren't carrying on like they liked each other at all, all Lauren was concerned about was finding her baby.....
In regards to the kiss in Adelaide being hot and heavy - oh dear.... yes at that point it was for heavens sake,,, it was emotional and heartfelt they were so caught up in their daughter they got carried away, its not like they were being malicious and made a point of sneaking around behind Terese's back..... and Lauren certainly wasn't flirting with and chasing Brad when they got back......
also I wasn't blaming her for the break down of the marriage - she definitely didn't help the situation thats for sure......
indigodance
11-11-2015, 10:11
As they had had sex before (hence Paige) their inhibitions were already gone as far as being intimate ..... the kiss was just another lead on from where they left off all those years ago ... yes, she was flirting maybe it not overly sexual - but a sexually viral man usually runs to a support a damsel in distress if he knows his options maybe open due to past acquaintances .... she was emotional and he was her knight in shining armour albeit 20 years too late. The fuse was lit .... even if it was a long burn ....
lauren was hiding her drawing of brad, she was flustered around him uncomfortable around terese, did she have a dream or dreams of him also, all before paigebabygate was discovered
even with matt she wanted brad
why did brad not tell his kids the truth instead he wanted hero worship that he was terese saver from fire
ILTPandN
12-11-2015, 13:15
lauren was hiding her drawing of brad, she was flustered around him uncomfortable around terese, did she have a dream or dreams of him also, all before paigebabygate was discovered
even with matt she wanted brad
Yes, I remember now......Lauren had those dreams about Brad (I think she all dolled up and dancing with him - in the dreams).
why did brad not tell his kids the truth instead he wanted hero worship that he was terese saver from fire
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I know Terese asked him to stay quiet, but he was happy to play along. Then when Imogen found out the truth, he was like "I was going to tell you all."
He and Lauren deserve each other...
Lauren knew exactly what she was doing. She could have at least waited until Matt's body was cold before she hopped into bed with Brad.
Terese can do SO much better than Brad.
lauren was hiding her drawing of brad, she was flustered around him uncomfortable around terese, did she have a dream or dreams of him also, all before paigebabygate was discovered
even with matt she wanted brad
So you don't think maybe it had anything to do with guilt of knowing she was pregnant with his child and never told him either??? she never let on that she wanted Brad, if she did at least she kept it to herself....... I never saw her flirting at all.......
Lauren knew exactly what she was doing. She could have at least waited until Matt's body was cold before she hopped into bed with Brad.
Na I don't agree.....
So you don't think maybe it had anything to do with guilt of knowing she was pregnant with his child and never told him either??? she never let on that she wanted Brad, if she did at least she kept it to herself....... I never saw her flirting at all.......
no she wanted brad for herself no care and regard to who got hurt, whether it be her kids or his kids or his wife, she was having steamy dreams about him, don't know why as shown that matt at art class was rump steak compared to chicken nugget brad
maidmarian
12-11-2015, 23:53
:cheer:
no she wanted brad for herself no care and regard to who got hurt, whether it be her kids or his kids or his wife, she was having steamy dreams about him, don't know why as shown that matt at art class was rump steak compared to chicken nugget brad
chicken nuggets Brad!!:cheer::)
Sparklydee
13-11-2015, 00:03
So you don't think maybe it had anything to do with guilt of knowing she was pregnant with his child and never told him either??? she never let on that she wanted Brad, if she did at least she kept it to herself....... I never saw her flirting at all.......
Yes she did say he reminded her of an alternate life that was lost to her (not really a nice reflection on Matt and the kids!) and at the time she said to Lucy that she was having the dreams as she was thinking about the baby she thought she had lost. In reality, I wonder what Brad would have done if he had known she was pregnant? Would they have stayed together? Lauren and Paige would probably have ended up like Beth and Ned are now, I doubt somehow they'd still be all together as a family. But yes, even though she admitted she'd always been attracted to Brad, I don't think she acted on it in the early days of both families living in Ramsay St
Yes she did say he reminded her of an alternate life that was lost to her (not really a nice reflection on Matt and the kids!) and at the time she said to Lucy that she was having the dreams as she was thinking about the baby she thought she had lost. In reality, I wonder what Brad would have done if he had known she was pregnant? Would they have stayed together? Lauren and Paige would probably have ended up like Beth and Ned are now, I doubt somehow they'd still be all together as a family. But yes, even though she admitted she'd always been attracted to Brad, I don't think she acted on it in the early days of both families living in Ramsay St
Thanks Sparklydee, at least someone else on here isnt hell bent at creating stories that just arn't true about Lauren xx
no she wanted brad for herself no care and regard to who got hurt, whether it be her kids or his kids or his wife, she was having steamy dreams about him, don't know why as shown that matt at art class was rump steak compared to chicken nugget brad
You see now thats just stories......
You see now thats just stories......
how can anyone defend brad and lauren's actions, they did wrong
You see now thats just stories......
how can anyone defend brad and lauren's actions, they did wrong
Thanks Sparklydee, at least someone else on here isnt hell bent at creating stories that just arn't true about Lauren xx
That's just not true. No one is creating stories, everyone's perceptions of storylines is different. You don't think Lauren and Brad have done wrong and that's ok.
Others believe that Brad and Lauren are cheaters, liars, scheming and probably much more and that's ok too. Just because someone doesn't agree with your version of events, doesn't mean they "create stories."
That's why some people loves some characters while others hate them, we perceive what they do differently.
I can't stand Lauren and that's always been the way, not just since she got with Brad, but that's potentially altered my opinion of the current situation. Whereas, you may be a big fan of Lauren and therefore that alters your opinion of the storyline.
I'm aware that sounds really cheeky, but it's not meant to be! :) Let's hug it out guys!
Sparklydee
13-11-2015, 16:19
That's just not true. No one is creating stories, everyone's perceptions of storylines is different. You don't think Lauren and Brad have done wrong and that's ok.
Others believe that Brad and Lauren are cheaters, liars, scheming and probably much more and that's ok too. Just because someone doesn't agree with your version of events, doesn't mean they "create stories."
That's why some people loves some characters while others hate them, we perceive what they do differently.
I can't stand Lauren and that's always been the way, not just since she got with Brad, but that's potentially altered my opinion of the current situation. Whereas, you may be a big fan of Lauren and therefore that alters your opinion of the storyline.
I'm aware that sounds really cheeky, but it's not meant to be! :) Let's hug it out guys!
Lol. I am a big Terese fan and was pretty mad at Brad and Lauren, but I just don't think it was some big conspiracy from the beginning. Yes their actions were wrong but I'm actually glad it has cleared the way for Terese to meet someone else. If she gets a new life and is happy, let Brad and Lauren do what they like 😀 Hugs to all 😜
Sparklydee
13-11-2015, 16:29
no she wanted brad for herself no care and regard to who got hurt, whether it be her kids or his kids or his wife, she was having steamy dreams about him, don't know why as shown that matt at art class was rump steak compared to chicken nugget brad
Matt at art class was HOT!!! 😀
Lol. I am a big Terese fan and was pretty mad at Brad and Lauren, but I just don't think it was some big conspiracy from the beginning. Yes their actions were wrong but I'm actually glad it has cleared the way for Terese to meet someone else. If she gets a new life and is happy, let Brad and Lauren do what they like 😀 Hugs to all 😜
I guess I just get mad when people don't seem to understand everyone is entitled to opinions :p
I so hope Terese does move on and I also hope Brad and Lauren separate permanently (sorry) because I suspect they will get back together after Lauren ends it. And yas, hugs! :p
That's just not true. No one is creating stories, everyone's perceptions of storylines is different. You don't think Lauren and Brad have done wrong and that's ok.
Others believe that Brad and Lauren are cheaters, liars, scheming and probably much more and that's ok too. Just because someone doesn't agree with your version of events, doesn't mean they "create stories."
That's why some people loves some characters while others hate them, we perceive what they do differently.
I can't stand Lauren and that's always been the way, not just since she got with Brad, but that's potentially altered my opinion of the current situation. Whereas, you may be a big fan of Lauren and therefore that alters your opinion of the storyline.
I'm aware that sounds really cheeky, but it's not meant to be! :) Let's hug it out guys!
You see I dont agree, its quite clear she didn't have it all mapped out to steal Brad,, so yes I believe people see what they want and create these stories up in their head, so Yes I will defend what I said,,, simple as that :) and lets just set it straight - I don't like how it happened but I understand how it happened, they had history,, and if Paige was never born it never would have happened..., she wouldn't of had these thoughts of what if, she wouldn't of been feeling guilty, she wouldn't of dreamt about him, they wouldnt of been looking for her. and regardless of whether I like Lauren or not, it was quite clear she wasn't chasing him from the beginning. but because people don't like her, thats all they are seeing...... hugs agreed :)
I guess I just get mad when people don't seem to understand everyone is entitled to opinions :p
I so hope Terese does move on and I also hope Brad and Lauren separate permanently (sorry) because I suspect they will get back together after Lauren ends it. And yas, hugs! :p
and I guess I get mad when people make stories up because they don't like someone.......(even you said yourself, not liking someone can sway your opinion, because your opinion is swayed doesn't mean its the truth) My argument all along has been that she hasn't been chasing and manipulating to get Brad from the beginning - other people just don't like them and say all sorts of scenarios that never even happened......I'd really like to ask the writers and find out if their intention was to make it look like she was,,, would be very interesting....
lauren should have distanced herself from brad once her feelings were getting stronger for him she always had feelings for him he is the love of her life (she isn't his though) lauren was aware of terese jealousy and insecurity of them and instead lauren always make sure she bumped into brad, listened to him, praised him, offered him a home etc.,
brad loves the positive attention
hugs all rounds folks :p
lauren should have distanced herself from brad once her feelings were getting stronger for him she always had feelings for him he is the love of her life (she isn't his though) lauren was aware of terese jealousy and insecurity of them and instead lauren always make sure she bumped into brad, listened to him, praised him, offered him a home etc.,
brad loves the positive attention
hugs all rounds folks :p
lauren should have distanced herself from brad once her feelings were getting stronger for him she always had feelings for him he is the love of her life (she isn't his though) lauren was aware of terese jealousy and insecurity of them and instead lauren always make sure she bumped into brad, listened to him, praised him, offered him a home etc.,
brad loves the positive attention
hugs all rounds folks :p
where was it said that he was the love of her life??? I missed that bit...... yes I agree that theres always been feelings there after what she went through with his kid (Paige), how can there not be really (unless it ended horribly)... and she probably should of distanced herself, but he should have kept away himself and by the time she offered him a home it was too late, she was obviously in love again.... She wasn't out to get him from the beginning though, she didn't have it planned all along like what people are suggesting.....
where was it said that he was the love of her life??? I missed that bit...... yes I agree that theres always been feelings there after what she went through with his kid (Paige), how can there not be really (unless it ended horribly)... and she probably should of distanced herself, but he should have kept away himself and by the time she offered him a home it was too late, she was obviously in love again.... She wasn't out to get him from the beginning though, she didn't have it planned all along like what people are suggesting.....
did she not say brad was always the one to lucy
where was it said that he was the love of her life??? I missed that bit...... yes I agree that theres always been feelings there after what she went through with his kid (Paige), how can there not be really (unless it ended horribly)... and she probably should of distanced herself, but he should have kept away himself and by the time she offered him a home it was too late, she was obviously in love again.... She wasn't out to get him from the beginning though, she didn't have it planned all along like what people are suggesting.....
did she not say brad was always the one to lucy
Sparklydee
15-11-2015, 15:59
did she not say brad was always the one to lucy
I remember her telling Paige that Brad was one of the only 2 people she had ever loved, Matt of course being the other. Interesting post from Summer8 about how they probably wouldn't have got close if Paige hadn't been born and they hadn't been looking for her-maybe Lauren only thought she had loved Brad because her feelings were all tied up with those about the baby. I was just thinking, if Paige hadn't been born and then given away by Kathy, then maybe Mason, Amber and Bailey wouldn't have been born either as Lauren only went to Mount Isa to escape from everyone-so you could say if it hadn't been for Brad being her first love she wouldn't have met her second.
did she not say brad was always the one to lucy
Not sure did she???? I don't remember that, like I said...... :S
I remember her telling Paige that Brad was one of the only 2 people she had ever loved, Matt of course being the other. Interesting post from Summer8 about how they probably wouldn't have got close if Paige hadn't been born and they hadn't been looking for her-maybe Lauren only thought she had loved Brad because her feelings were all tied up with those about the baby. I was just thinking, if Paige hadn't been born and then given away by Kathy, then maybe Mason, Amber and Bailey wouldn't have been born either as Lauren only went to Mount Isa to escape from everyone-so you could say if it hadn't been for Brad being her first love she wouldn't have met her second.
Yes I remember her telling Paige that, but I missed the bit of her saying that Brad was the one!!!!! Yes completely unresolved feelings, if Paige hadn't happened I don't think they wouldve happened lol.....circumstances pushed them together,,, not to mention living across the road from each other.....and it just goes to show where fate can lead you (even in a soap) ;)
Sparklydee
15-11-2015, 17:13
Yes I remember her telling Paige that, but I missed the bit of her saying that Brad was the one!!!!! Yes completely unresolved feelings, if Paige hadn't happened I don't think they wouldve happened lol.....circumstances pushed them together,,, not to mention living across the road from each other.....and it just goes to show where fate can lead you (even in a soap) ;)
Yes she definitely didn't tell Lucy that Brad was the one, she just said that looking at him reminded her of their baby.
I'm waiting from the day Brad loses his manliness. I mean, it's gotta be exhausted from all the sperm it's given out.
i'm waiting from the day brad loses his manliness. I mean, it's gotta be exhausted from all the sperm it's given out.
yuk!!!! Lol
tammyy2j
15-11-2015, 23:40
I think perhaps every viewer interrupts behaviour and actions differently because while Lauren didn't set out manipulatively to steal Brad from Terese, she did know Terese was paranoid about their closeness and was jealous so much that it was creating conflict within her marriage but Lauren and also Paige still choose to act in a way which hurted Terese and her kids and don't get me started on that weasel slime Brad whose character's personality is so different from the first blonde Brad, he has no self control
I would have loved to have see Mason and Bailey's reaction to Brad and Lauren's affair, I dont think Bailey especially would be happy, Amber wasn't but complied to go along with Paige and Lauren, Amber even mentioned she felt sorry for Terese once the story of the fire rescue was made known
I think perhaps every viewer interrupts behaviour and actions differently because while Lauren didn't set out manipulatively to steal Brad from Terese, she did know Terese was paranoid about their closeness and was jealous so much that it was creating conflict within her marriage but Lauren and also Paige still choose to act in a way which hurted Terese and her kids and don't get me started on that weasel slime Brad whose character's personality is so different from the first blonde Brad, he has no self control
I would have loved to have see Mason and Bailey's reaction to Brad and Lauren's affair, I dont think Bailey especially would be happy, Amber wasn't but complied to go along with Paige and Lauren, Amber even mentioned she felt sorry for Terese once the story of the fire rescue was made known
Of course everyone interprets situations different, but to make things up because you don't like a character is just ridiculous. And the fire rescue debacle jezus don't get me started on that, some people think Brad should of just jumped over Lauren ran over to Terese, try to save her first, if he couldn't that man just should of sat beside her till they all burnt to death LOL....
I'm waiting from the day Brad loses his manliness. I mean, it's gotta be exhausted from all the sperm it's given out.
has brad made a move on susan yet or is she too old to spawn another sprog for him
he needs his man card revoked
id love beth and ned to show up
Of course everyone interprets situations different, but to make things up because you don't like a character is just ridiculous.
Memory is a very unreliable thing. It's very well known that no two people will remember an event exactly the same - even a very important event (which a soap storyline most definitely isn't).
It's pretty insulting to keep repeating that people are making up stories (in other words lying) about their perception of what happened. I'm team Terese, but I take a pretty moderate view of Lauren and Brad's behaviour: putting it down to selfishness not malice. However, I accept that posters who disagree with me have different perceptions and memories of what occurred (and that our memories are coloured by our own experiences).
And the fire rescue debacle jezus don't get me started on that, some people think Brad should of just jumped over Lauren ran over to Terese, try to save her first, if he couldn't that man just should of sat beside her till they all burnt to death LOL....
As I've already said, this goes to show that the writing for Lauren has failed because many forum members despise her and feel Terese deserved to be rescued first whatever the circumstances. I don't agree (and wrote a post defending Brad's actions), but I understand why some posters feel so strongly.
if brad isn't guilty and didn't feel bad about his actions in the fire then why not tell his kids
indigodance
16-11-2015, 10:27
has brad made a move on susan yet or is she too old to spawn another sprog for him
he needs his man card revoked
id love beth and ned to show up
Susan did act as a surrogate for Libby a few years back - so you never know what might happen !!!!!!!!
indigodance
16-11-2015, 10:27
Dupe
Ruffed_lemur
16-11-2015, 13:30
Susan did act as a surrogate for Libby a few years back - so you never know what might happen !!!!!!!!
I hated that story. Seemed very selfish of Libby, and she already had a son too.
Ruffed_lemur
16-11-2015, 13:32
if brad isn't guilty and didn't feel bad about his actions in the fire then why not tell his kids
Because Terese made him feel guilty, even though he isn't.
Memory is a very unreliable thing. It's very well known that no two people will remember an event exactly the same - even a very important event (which a soap storyline most definitely isn't).
It's pretty insulting to keep repeating that people are making up stories (in other words lying) about their perception of what happened. I'm team Terese, but I take a pretty moderate view of Lauren and Brad's behaviour: putting it down to selfishness not malice. However, I accept that posters who disagree with me have different perceptions and memories of what occurred (and that our memories are coloured by our own experiences).
Preach! When we remember something, we're not actually recalling the event, we're remembering the last time we remembered (if that makes sense) so you're not actually remembering doing something or watching something. So it's understandable (as pointed out by Dazzle) that some people (probably myself included) have totally different recollections of the events. There's 3 sides to every story. One persons, the other persons and the truth.
I really wish you would stop saying people are making things up. Chances are everyones recollections of the storyline have swayed off course big time. Doesn't mean anyone has set out to lie about it.
Susan did act as a surrogate for Libby a few years back - so you never know what might happen !!!!!!!!
Oh my god I forgot about that! Haha!
OH God, could you imagine? Brad and Lauren want a kid, but Lauren isn't able to carry a child because Paige sold Lauren's womb to Dimato (totally a thing) so they ask Susan to be the surrogate?
Of course, Brad and Lauren would "totally understand" why Paige did what she did as she can never do anything wrong.
Sorry, I like to make up ridiculous storylines to amuse myself :p
how is neighbours not the no. 1 soap, the discussion it is generating even more than killer bobby from esstenders
if brad isn't guilty and didn't feel bad about his actions in the fire then why not tell his kids
He feels guilty but that doesn't necessarily mean he did anything wrong. It might be that he feels bad that Lauren was his first concern, even though he did everything he could for Terese. It might also be something akin to survivor's guilt.
Chances are everyones recollections of the storyline have swayed off course big time. Doesn't mean anyone has set out to lie about it.
You've said more eloquently in two sentences what it took me two paragraphs to say! :D
indigodance
16-11-2015, 21:50
an even more scary thought ...... Sheila could surrogate Brads next sprog from spawn .... apart from the Brannings old man she been a bit left on the shelf man wise, Lou and Harold did a runner (although she did have the hots for Paul no long ago)...
Sparklydee
16-11-2015, 22:12
Because Terese made him feel guilty, even though he isn't.
Terese wasn't aware of the true situation, she only woke up when Brad was carrying Lauren out and was gone when he came back for her, so her perception was that he had rescued Lauren and left her for dead. She seems to understand now, though.
Sparklydee
16-11-2015, 22:12
Because Terese made him feel guilty, even though he isn't.
Terese wasn't aware of the true situation, she only woke up when Brad was carrying Lauren out and was gone when he came back for her, so her perception was that he had rescued Lauren and left her for dead. She seems to understand now, though.
Memory is a very unreliable thing. It's very well known that no two people will remember an event exactly the same - even a very important event (which a soap storyline most definitely isn't).
It's pretty insulting to keep repeating that people are making up stories (in other words lying) about their perception of what happened. I'm team Terese, but I take a pretty moderate view of Lauren and Brad's behaviour: putting it down to selfishness not malice. However, I accept that posters who disagree with me have different perceptions and memories of what occurred (and that our memories are coloured by our own experiences).
As I've already said, this goes to show that the writing for Lauren has failed because many forum members despise her and feel Terese deserved to be rescued first whatever the circumstances. I don't agree (and wrote a post defending Brad's actions), but I understand why some posters feel so strongly.
If you want to feel insulted Dazzle thats fine, go for it..... The things that people say is ridiculous sometimes and sometimes clearly made up, if you want to feel offended and take that on as me saying that against your comment, thats fine....
An example - someone saying she didn't care about Matts feelings or the kids and she wanted to steal Brad from the beginning etc..... clearly untruths and MAKING THINGS UP frankly I dont even care to talk about it further its all getting rather boring.....
Preach! When we remember something, we're not actually recalling the event, we're remembering the last time we remembered (if that makes sense) so you're not actually remembering doing something or watching something. So it's understandable (as pointed out by Dazzle) that some people (probably myself included) have totally different recollections of the events. There's 3 sides to every story. One persons, the other persons and the truth.
I really wish you would stop saying people are making things up. Chances are everyones recollections of the storyline have swayed off course big time. Doesn't mean anyone has set out to lie about it.
I never used the word lie,,,, and when its clear that the truth has been completely deviated on, Ill call it as I see it....if that offends you -Im sorry .. also I think you are wrong - 'doesnt mean anyone has set out to lie about it' read back on some of the comments and youl see some extremely passionate comments that are completely removed from the truth!!!!!!
If you want to feel insulted Dazzle thats fine, go for it..... The things that people say is ridiculous sometimes and sometimes clearly made up, if you want to feel offended and take that on as me saying that against your comment, thats fine....
An example - someone saying she didn't care about Matts feelings or the kids and she wanted to steal Brad from the beginning etc..... clearly untruths and MAKING THINGS UP frankly I dont even care to talk about it further its all getting rather boring.....
I don't feel personally insulted since I haven't made any of the statements you're railing against - but I'll speak out when you repeatedly insist that posters I've known through this site for years are lying (or "creating stories"). Note that I didn't comment until you'd made that claim several times.
You're still doing it even though LauBuch and I have given well-documented reasons why different people often see events very differently. It's quite possible to disagree without resorting to insults.
tammyy2j
17-11-2015, 12:34
Even after the fire I am still on Team Terese, I'm sorry but I think the behaviour of Lauren, Brad and Paige and even Josh has been despicable
Terese is the victim
indigodance
17-11-2015, 12:37
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indigodance
17-11-2015, 12:37
It's quite possible to disagree without resorting to insults.
In the positive its called constructive criticism ..... to argue a point with out causing or taking offence. Its used to get to analyse a point without negativity and detraction of the issue being discussed.
I watch Aus pace and the break up scene with Lauren and Brad was actually good! I'm not saying that because I'm team Terese, but Lauren finally accepted and acknowledged just how much hurt they have caused! They still have a lot of ground to make up for, but it's a start :p
I don't feel personally insulted since I haven't made any of the statements you're railing against - but I'll speak out when you repeatedly insist that posters I've known through this site for years are lying (or "creating stories"). Note that I didn't comment until you'd made that claim several times.
You're still doing it even though LauBuch and I have given well-documented reasons why different people often see events very differently. It's quite possible to disagree without resorting to insults.
LIKE I said I never used the word lie, and frankly I dont really care what you think!!!!!! Or care how long you've known someone for, saying I think someone is telling stories is alot nicer than some other things that can be said...its actually quite laughable that you say Im resorting to insults because Im using the word stories LOL.
I watch Aus pace and the break up scene with Lauren and Brad was actually good! I'm not saying that because I'm team Terese, but Lauren finally accepted and acknowledged just how much hurt they have caused! They still have a lot of ground to make up for, but it's a start :p
I'm looking forward to seeing that! :D
I'm looking forward to seeing that! :D
I actually really enjoyed it because it was satisfying to finally see some acknowledgement to the amount of hurt they've caused and it seemed genuine...on Lauren's part at least. Brad seemed confused...
I don't even live in Aus, I'm in the UK but I just watch Aus pace, I'm such a loser :p
LIKE I said I never used the word lie, and frankly I dont really care what you think!!!!!! Or care how long you've known someone for, saying I think someone is telling stories is alot nicer than some other things that can be said...its actually quite laughable that you say Im resorting to insults because Im using the word stories LOL.
I was going to respond by listing all the ways you've called other posters liars (without actually using the word "liar") in this thread alone. However, everyone's read them so there's really no need for me to repeat them.
Defending yourself by trying to undermine your opponent instead of addressing their argument is a logical fallacy, by the way.
I'm not going to say any more about this now as I think I've made my point...
I was going to respond by listing all the ways you've called other posters liars (without actually using the word "liar") in this thread alone. However, everyone's read them so there's really no need for me to repeat them.
Defending yourself by trying to undermine your opponent instead of addressing their argument is a logical fallacy, by the way.
I'm not going to say any more about this now as I think I've made my point...
Yeah that would be pointless - because I never called anyone a liar, trying to undermine my opponent?? LOL wow are you my opponent??? I think I did address the argument many times thanks.... You like to think that my words were insulting - thats fine I don't care what you think as I said... If I wanted to insult someone there are alot harsher things that could've been said..... And great, because I think I made my point also.....
im sorry that i don't think lauren and brad are as good hearted as others do
im sorry that i don't think lauren and brad are as good hearted as others do
No need to be sorry. :)
I wouldn't say I think them good-hearted though. I think they've been incredibly self-centred and selfish. I've defended Brad's actions in the fire because I genuinely got the sense he tried his best to rescue Terese in that instance, but he's treated her very badly overall.
im sorry that i don't think lauren and brad are as good hearted as others do
No I don't think Brad is..... I think Lauren has been messed up due to the Paige story, then Matt dying then finding out he cheated (only 6 months ago), Bailey leaving etc.... and its reflected in her bad choices, I don't think she's a horrible person though...
No I don't think Brad is..... I think Lauren has been messed up due to the Paige story, then Matt dying then finding out he cheated (only 6 months ago), Bailey leaving etc.... and its reflected in her bad choices, I don't think she's a horrible person though...
lauren chased after brad when with beth and same when he with terese
No I don't think Brad is..... I think Lauren has been messed up due to the Paige story, then Matt dying then finding out he cheated (only 6 months ago), Bailey leaving etc.... and its reflected in her bad choices, I don't think she's a horrible person though...
lauren chased after brad when with beth and same when he with terese
lauren chased after brad when with beth and same when he with terese
Well Im not going on years ago, Im going on right now from what I have seen over the last couple of years.... I still don't think she chased after Brad while with Terese or think she's a horrible person.....bad choices Yes,, selfish at times yes.... but not a bad person....
millieq8
18-11-2015, 02:37
Summer inhale exhale
Summer inhale exhale
LOL I am actually quite fine but thanks for your concern :).....
Summer inhale exhale
LOL I am actually quite fine but thanks for your concern :).....
LollyCarpenter
18-11-2015, 03:45
Well Im not going on years ago, Im going on right now from what I have seen over the last couple of years.... I still don't think she chased after Brad while with Terese or think she's a horrible person.....bad choices Yes,, selfish at times yes.... but not a bad person....
I agree that she didnt actually chase after him trying to win Brad back. Lauren still had feelings for Brad when she came back to Ramsay Street happily married to Matt, but didn't act upon them until Adelaide and even then their kiss was a mutual giving in to old feelings from years ago. Why does the woman seem to become most responsible in certain people's eyes and the man almost given a pass because she somehow 'made' him want to cheat on his wife? Brad made that choice and he has to take the consequences of his actions same as Lauren does. I watch at AU pace and Im glad to finally see there was some acknowledgement from Paige that trying to get her parents together at the expense of Terese and her children was wrong. Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.
I agree that she didnt actually chase after him trying to win Brad back. Lauren still had feelings for Brad when she came back to Ramsay Street happily married to Matt, but didn't act upon them until Adelaide and even then their kiss was a mutual giving in to old feelings from years ago. Why does the woman seem to become most responsible in certain people's eyes and the man almost given a pass because she somehow 'made' him want to cheat on his wife? Brad made that choice and he has to take the consequences of his actions same as Lauren does. I watch at AU pace and Im glad to finally see there was some acknowledgement from Paige that trying to get her parents together at the expense of Terese and her children was wrong. Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.
Yes I agree 100%, I think people put themselves in the characters situation and sometimes through their pain only see one side and sometimes dramatize it passionately, and I guess that's what we do as human beings if we identify with something - however sometimes we need to stand outside the box and see the picture as a whole so we don't completely dramatize the situation and lose what really is going on... but at the end of the day it is only a soap - and when we get all worked up we have to stop and have a laugh at ourselves because really it is all just a fictional story... and yes yes yes,,, Paige last night was great to watch - lets hope she stays true to her acknowledgement :) :cheer:
LollyCarpenter
18-11-2015, 04:27
Yes I agree 100%, I think people put themselves in the characters situation and sometimes through their pain only see one side and sometimes dramatize it passionately, and I guess that's what we do as human beings if we identify with something - however sometimes we need to stand outside the box and see the picture as a whole so we don't completely dramatize the situation and lose what really is going on... but at the end of the day it is only a soap - and when we get all worked up we have to stop and have a laugh at ourselves because really it is all just a fictional story... and yes yes yes,,, Paige last night was great to watch - lets hope she stays true to her acknowledgement :) :cheer:
Thanks Summer8. I hope I didnt offend anyone, my comments weren't directed at anyone in particular, we all have ouri different perceptions and opinions but sometimes I just disagree strongly with certain things and need to speak my mind or speak my own truth if you will. But you're absolutely right, its a fictional story made up for our entertainment. :)
Thanks Summer8. I hope I didnt offend anyone, my comments weren't directed at anyone in particular, we all have ouri different perceptions and opinions but sometimes I just disagree strongly with certain things and need to speak my mind or speak my own truth if you will. But you're absolutely right, its a fictional story made up for our entertainment. :)
I doubt you offended anyone,,, that's my claim apparently!!!!! I think we all get a little worked up at times :)
tammyy2j
18-11-2015, 12:31
Both Brad and Lauren are in the wrong but Brad was the one who cheated on Terese as Matt was dead so Lauren didn't cheat but moved on very fast
As I said previously both Lauren and Brad were very aware of Terese's paranoia over their closeness but still chose to carry on to be close despite all the tension and conflict it was creating in the Willis house
Lauren didn't cheat but moved on very fast
In saying that Matt didn't have a problem moving on before he even died......
tammyy2j
18-11-2015, 13:23
In saying that Matt didn't have a problem moving on before he even died......
And Lauren kissed Brad too
Ruffed_lemur
18-11-2015, 13:26
And Lauren kissed Brad too
Matt would have done a lot more if Terese hadn't stopped him!
And Lauren kissed Brad too
A kiss due to being caught up in very heavy emotions and planning to go all the way with pretty much a random are two very different things!!!
tammyy2j
18-11-2015, 13:30
Matt would have done a lot more if Terese hadn't stopped him!
I like to think he would have stopped if Terese had not stopped him but would Kyle's mother let him stop :p
Matt always to me was a good family man driven if he did bad things, liked him way more than Brad and enjoyed his marriage to Lauren they worked well
Matt would have done a lot more if Terese hadn't stopped him!
Oh he was ready to go all the way, no doubt there!!!!! A little bit different to Lauren and Brads kiss (and before I get jumped on by anyone,,,, yes it was wrong)
I never really ever want to be in that situation but do you think knowing what Matt did would help her move on that little bit quicker???
tammyy2j
18-11-2015, 13:33
A kiss due to being caught up in very heavy emotions and planning to go all the way with pretty much a random are two very different things!!!
The emotion being love
The emotion being love
probably alot more complicated then that maybe, given the circumstances!!!
tammyy2j
18-11-2015, 13:38
Oh he was ready to go all the way, no doubt there!!!!! A little bit different to Lauren and Brads kiss (and before I get jumped on by anyone,,,, yes it was wrong)
I never really ever want to be in that situation but do you think knowing what Matt did would help her move on that little bit quicker???
Was it Brad or Terese who told Lauren?
Was it Brad or Terese who told Lauren?
I think it was Brad, because Lauren was going on about what a great husband he was!!!! Terese was trying to keep it from Lauren if I recall...
Ruffed_lemur
18-11-2015, 16:41
I like to think he would have stopped if Terese had not stopped him but would Kyle's mother let him stop :p
Matt always to me was a good family man driven if he did bad things, liked him way more than Brad and enjoyed his marriage to Lauren they worked well
That was earlier on in the marriage though. After he turned to crime to pay off the mortgage it was a different story!
Why does the woman seem to become most responsible in certain people's eyes and the man almost given a pass because she somehow 'made' him want to cheat on his wife? Brad made that choice and he has to take the consequences of his actions same as Lauren does.
I agree that the woman often gets the most blame on these situations; it's something I notice because it annoys me intensely. However, I haven't felt that Lauren has received more than her fair share of dislike on this forum. There's only been one instance when I felt obliged to point out that Brad was the more guilty of the two because it was him who cheated.
Lauren and Brad both seem to be disliked here fairly evenly. In fact, if anything, I think Brad has come in for the worst of the flak because he failed to rescue Terese from the fire.
I've also made the point that neither is Terese responsible for Brad cheating, no matter how much she "pushed him away". The only person to blame for cheating is the person who made the decision to do so: Brad.
I think it was Brad, because Lauren was going on about what a great husband he was!!!! Terese was trying to keep it from Lauren if I recall...
typical selfish brad, jealous of matt, did brad kill matt :p gillyitis is rubbing off on me, bring back matt
I think it was Brad, because Lauren was going on about what a great husband he was!!!! Terese was trying to keep it from Lauren if I recall...
typical selfish brad, jealous of matt, did brad kill matt :p gillyitis is rubbing off on me, bring back matt
typical selfish brad, jealous of matt, did brad kill matt :p gillyitis is rubbing off on me, bring back matt
HAHA, yeah I liked Matt to - even though he did go off the rails at the end....
LollyCarpenter
19-11-2015, 03:03
I agree that the woman often gets the most blame on these situations; it's something I notice because it annoys me intensely. However, I haven't felt that Lauren has received more than her fair share of dislike on this forum. There's only been one instance when I felt obliged to point out that Brad was the more guilty of the two because it was him who cheated.
Lauren and Brad both seem to be disliked here fairly evenly. In fact, if anything, I think Brad has come in for the worst of the flak because he failed to rescue Terese from the fire.
I've also made the point that neither is Terese responsible for Brad cheating, no matter how much she "pushed him away". The only person to blame for cheating is the person who made the decision to tso: Brad.
It annoys me too and as i said I wasn't singling out any one person or forum, it seems to be quite a common opnion round and about which I disagree with very much.
While I agree that Terese didnt cause Brad to cheat, if there were problems in the marriage both she and Brad should have addressed them. They both bear some responsbility for the marriage breakdown in my opinion, Terese being too caught up in work, not taking the time acknowledge that Brad was probably feeling neglected and Brad for being lazy about his marriage and not putting as much effort in as he probably should have done.
tammyy2j
19-11-2015, 11:27
It annoys me too and as i said I wasn't singling out any one person or forum, it seems to be quite a common opnion round and about which I disagree with very much.
While I agree that Terese didnt cause Brad to cheat, if there were problems in the marriage both she and Brad should have addressed them. They both bear some responsbility for the marriage breakdown in my opinion, Terese being too caught up in work, not taking the time acknowledge that Brad was probably feeling neglected and Brad for being lazy about his marriage and not putting as much effort in as he probably should have done.
I don't think Terese is in the wrong or did anything wrong, she was justified in her paranoia over Brad and Lauren which they knew and along with Paige made it worse so much that Terese even turned to alcohol
I am Team Terese
LollyCarpenter
19-11-2015, 16:20
I don't think Terese is in the wrong or did anything wrong, she was justified in her paranoia over Brad and Lauren which they knew and along with Paige made it worse so much that Terese even turned to alcohol
I am Team Terese
I sympathised with Paige at first because she never knew what it was like to grow up with her real parents but what she did was wrong and it's good she can see that now.
LollyCarpenter
19-11-2015, 16:21
I don't think Terese is in the wrong or did anything wrong, she was justified in her paranoia over Brad and Lauren which they knew and along with Paige made it worse so much that Terese even turned to alcohol
I am Team Terese
I sympathised with Paige at first because she never knew what it was like to grow up with her real parents but what she did was wrong and it's good she can see that now.
While I agree that Terese didnt cause Brad to cheat, if there were problems in the marriage both she and Brad should have addressed them. They both bear some responsbility for the marriage breakdown in my opinion, Terese being too caught up in work, not taking the time acknowledge that Brad was probably feeling neglected and Brad for being lazy about his marriage and not putting as much effort in as he probably should have done.
I wasn't trying to start yet another debate about who is responsible for the breakdown of the Willis' marriage lol. The point I was making is that blaming Terese for Brad's infidelity is to me another example of vilifying the woman while letting the man off the hook.
I don't blame Brad for falling out of love with his wife, only for choosing to start another relationship before ending his marriage. He couldn't control falling out of love, but he was in total control of whether he cheated or not. In my opinion there's absolutely no logic in putting any blame on Terese for the latter.
I wasn't trying to start yet another debate about who is responsible for the breakdown of the Willis' marriage lol. The point I was making is that blaming Terese for Brad's infidelity is to me another example of vilifying the woman while letting the man off the hook.
I don't blame Brad for falling out of love with his wife, only for choosing to start another relationship before ending his marriage. He couldn't control falling out of love, but he was in total control of whether he cheated or not. In my opinion there's absolutely no logic in putting any blame on Terese for the latter.
Amen to that.... and a marriage breakdown is the responsibility of two people......
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