Emmerdale Spoilers 24th - 28th August 2015

[Perdita]

7270 Monday 24 August 7pm – 7.30pm

Pete makes a confession
Zak’s worries about Sam are compounded
Eric refuses to make arrangements

7271/72 Tuesday 25 August 7pm – 8pm

James begs Debbie for time
The villagers gather for Ruby’s funeral
Brenda is horrified by Bob’s request

7273 Wednesday 26 August 2015 7pm – 7.30pm

Pete is rejected by his family
Rachel says goodbye to the village
Dan struggles with his guilt

7274/75 Thursday 27 August 2015 7pm - 8pm

Pete faces up to the past
Bob stands up to Ged
Sam learns Megan’s secret

7276 Friday 28 August 7pm – 7.30pm

Emma relishes being needed
Rakesh takes a hard line with Jai
Eric’s resentment of Diane grows

[tammyy2j]

Does Rachel leave with Archie?

I am glad Pete confesses this soon

[mariba]

Doesn't sound right that they would kill Ross only for Pete to confess straight away..??
And nothing about Pete being arrested either.
So-we still don't know..

[mariba]

Doesn't sound right that they would kill Ross only for Pete to confess straight away..??
And nothing about Pete being arrested either.
So-we still don't know..

[Ruffed_lemur]

Doesn't sound right that they would kill Ross only for Pete to confess straight away..??
And nothing about Pete being arrested either.
So-we still don't know..

Would make a nice change for someone to confess quickly.

[Telly Watcher]

Pete makes a confession
Pete is rejected by his family
Pete faces up to the past

Pete's confession and family rejection sound like he comes clean at least to his family about killing Ross? (Can't think what else it could be about.)

Also sounds like Emma identifies the body as Ross on Monday 24th? The police must have found Ross' body very quickly on Friday 21st, that's when Emma reported him missing. Pete must have been very careless/unthinking to dump the body in an obvious place near the village.

'Pete faces up to the past'? I can't imagine even the Barton's shielding Pete over this, so does he confess early to the police about Ross to get an easier ride in court? I can't blame him, leaving all that DNA everywhere and a body just around the corner from the village to find within hours of looking. He still should be up for hiding the body, obstructing justice, etc, even if pleading self-defence to get off manslaughter.

Look forward to more detailed spoilers and episode details for 24th-28th August when they become available.

[lizann]

still think ross is missing his body gone from where pete put it

[kennedyfan86]

Pete's confession and family rejection sound like he comes clean at least to his family about killing Ross? (Can't think what else it could be about.)

Also sounds like Emma identifies the body as Ross on Monday 24th? The police must have found Ross' body very quickly on Friday 21st, that's when Emma reported him missing. Pete must have been very careless/unthinking to dump the body in an obvious place near the village.

'Pete faces up to the past'? I can't imagine even the Barton's shielding Pete over this, so does he confess early to the police about Ross to get an easier ride in court? I can't blame him, leaving all that DNA everywhere and a body just around the corner from the village to find within hours of looking. He still should be up for hiding the body, obstructing justice, etc, even if pleading self-defence to get off manslaughter.

Look forward to more detailed spoilers and episode details for 24th-28th August when they become available.

Pete is crippled with guilt and comes clean to Debbie whilst James and Emma are at the mortuary, then she's so horrified she leaves the house and bumps into James, I'm pretty sure he'd say if it is Ross lying on the slab or not, would you not? Doesn't seem clear but it sounds like Ross is missing and they disown Pete for what he did to him cause they don't know if he's dead or alive because of what Pete did to him. If if isn't Ross I imagine James would demand Pete take him to the sot where he left Ross, that's when we'll know one way or the other

[kennedyfan86]

Pete's confession and family rejection sound like he comes clean at least to his family about killing Ross? (Can't think what else it could be about.)

Also sounds like Emma identifies the body as Ross on Monday 24th? The police must have found Ross' body very quickly on Friday 21st, that's when Emma reported him missing. Pete must have been very careless/unthinking to dump the body in an obvious place near the village.

'Pete faces up to the past'? I can't imagine even the Barton's shielding Pete over this, so does he confess early to the police about Ross to get an easier ride in court? I can't blame him, leaving all that DNA everywhere and a body just around the corner from the village to find within hours of looking. He still should be up for hiding the body, obstructing justice, etc, even if pleading self-defence to get off manslaughter.

Look forward to more detailed spoilers and episode details for 24th-28th August when they become available.

Pete is crippled with guilt and comes clean to Debbie whilst James and Emma are at the mortuary, then she's so horrified she leaves the house and bumps into James, I'm pretty sure he'd say if it is Ross lying on the slab or not, would you not? Doesn't seem clear but it sounds like Ross is missing and they disown Pete for what he did to him cause they don't know if he's dead or alive because of what Pete did to him. If it isn't Ross I imagine James would demand Pete take him to the spot where he left Ross, that's when we'll know one way or the other

[mariba]

Yeah, he's alive.. will be back badly injured.
Pete ends up confessing his part on his injuries as everyone blaming cain and ross tells it was pete. Debbie wants pete out of course, james begging her to give pete bit more time.. And Emma is needed to nurse ross back to health and look after moses.. And so on.. Nothing in those spoilers suggest that ross would be dead. In fact - if Ross was killed by Pete and Pete confessed, surely he'd be arrested straight away?

[mariba]

Yeah, he's alive.. will be back badly injured.
Pete ends up confessing his part on his injuries as everyone blaming cain and ross tells it was pete. Debbie wants pete out of course, james begging her to give pete bit more time.. And Emma is needed to nurse ross back to health and look after moses.. And so on.. Nothing in those spoilers suggest that ross would be dead. In fact - if Ross was killed by Pete and Pete confessed, surely he'd be arrested straight away?

[kennedyfan86]

Yeah, he's alive.. will be back badly injured.
Pete ends up confessing his part on his injuries as everyone blaming cain and ross tells it was pete. Debbie wants pete out of course, james begging her to give pete bit more time.. And Emma is needed to nurse ross back to health and look after moses.. And so on.. Nothing in those spoilers suggest that ross would be dead. In fact - if Ross was killed by Pete and Pete confessed, surely he'd be arrested straight away?

Maybe that'll be the next twist, it is Ross and Pete does get arrested, it's just not obvious from the spoilers, lol. It's driving me nutty, Ross is my favourite and I just want to know either way if Mike is just having a little break away or if that really is it

[kennedyfan86]

Yeah, he's alive.. will be back badly injured.
Pete ends up confessing his part on his injuries as everyone blaming cain and ross tells it was pete. Debbie wants pete out of course, james begging her to give pete bit more time.. And Emma is needed to nurse ross back to health and look after moses.. And so on.. Nothing in those spoilers suggest that ross would be dead. In fact - if Ross was killed by Pete and Pete confessed, surely he'd be arrested straight away?

Maybe that'll be the next twist, it is Ross and Pete does get arrested, it's just not obvious from the spoilers, lol. It's driving me nutty, Ross is my favourite and I just want to know either way if Mike is just having a little break away or if that really is it

[Serena Williams]

Pete's confession and family rejection sound like he comes clean at least to his family about killing Ross? (Can't think what else it could be about.)

Also sounds like Emma identifies the body as Ross on Monday 24th? The police must have found Ross' body very quickly on Friday 21st, that's when Emma reported him missing. Pete must have been very careless/unthinking to dump the body in an obvious place near the village.

'Pete faces up to the past'? I can't imagine even the Barton's shielding Pete over this, so does he confess early to the police about Ross to get an easier ride in court? I can't blame him, leaving all that DNA everywhere and a body just around the corner from the village to find within hours of looking. He still should be up for hiding the body, obstructing justice, etc, even if pleading self-defence to get off manslaughter.

Look forward to more detailed spoilers and episode details for 24th-28th August when they become available.

I think we should wait I have a hard time believing Kate Oates would be stupid enough to kill off Ross Barton. Michael Parr has leading man potential Cain is getting old. It would be foolish to kill.off such a promising character.

[mariba]

I agree-all this speculation is doing my head in.
I just don't understand what would have been the point killing him if Pete then confesses everything right after?? And gets arrested-and that's 2 Barton brothers gone! Or are we meant to believe that police would just treat Ross's death as an accident? Maybe-if Pete had called for help, but he tried to hide his body which is crime itself. So there's no medical confirmation that he actually was dead...And then Debbie would be back to square one-miserable again and what would be next for her without Ross/Pete?

Who would we have left then? All the gay men(Finn, Robert, Aaron)+Adam! I like Cain, but he's got too soft-no edge on him anymore with Moira.
I just realized last night how many old or just settled boring characters Emmerdale has. There's nothing to write about if they keep losing their cast! And nothing to watch..
This week already has been really boring in Emmerdale..mainly because Ross is not there stirring things..! :)

I watched one very recent Mike Parr interview on youtube and he was very much enjoying his character Ross too..

So-I don't believe he's dead. Really disappointed in Emmerdale if he is.
And IF he wants to go, he would deserve better than what he's got so far. And leave the door open for him to come back.

ps. I don't know his situation but even if he happened to get a small part in some film, doesn't mean that he needs to leave Emmerdale for that?? Emmerdale means steady income and would be madness to throw that away for nothing..

[mariba]

I agree-all this speculation is doing my head in.
I just don't understand what would have been the point killing him if Pete then confesses everything right after?? And gets arrested-and that's 2 Barton brothers gone! Or are we meant to believe that police would just treat Ross's death as an accident? Maybe-if Pete had called for help, but he tried to hide his body which is crime itself. So there's no medical confirmation that he actually was dead...And then Debbie would be back to square one-miserable again and what would be next for her without Ross/Pete?

Who would we have left then? All the gay men(Finn, Robert, Aaron)+Adam! I like Cain, but he's got too soft-no edge on him anymore with Moira.
I just realized last night how many old or just settled boring characters Emmerdale has. There's nothing to write about if they keep losing their cast! And nothing to watch..
This week already has been really boring in Emmerdale..mainly because Ross is not there stirring things..! :)

I watched one very recent Mike Parr interview on youtube and he was very much enjoying his character Ross too..

So-I don't believe he's dead. Really disappointed in Emmerdale if he is.
And IF he wants to go, he would deserve better than what he's got so far. And leave the door open for him to come back.

ps. I don't know his situation but even if he happened to get a small part in some film, doesn't mean that he needs to leave Emmerdale for that?? Emmerdale means steady income and would be madness to throw that away for nothing..

[Telly Watcher]

I enjoyed reading the two alternative theories about how this week's Pete spoilers were interpreted by kennedyfan86 and mariba. All of the three theories fit the limited info in the episode summaries we know for now.

Telly Watcher:
Pete's confession and family rejection sound like he comes clean at least to his family about killing Ross? (Can't think what else it could be about.)
Also sounds like Emma identifies the body as Ross on Monday 24th? The police must have found Ross' body very quickly on Friday 21st, that's when Emma reported him missing. Pete must have been very careless/unthinking to dump the body in an obvious place near the village.
'Pete faces up to the past'? I can't imagine even the Barton's shielding Pete over this, so does he confess early to the police about Ross to get an easier ride in court? I can't blame him, leaving all that DNA everywhere and a body just around the corner from the village to find within hours of looking. He still should be up for hiding the body, obstructing justice, etc, even if pleading self-defence to get off manslaughter.

kennedyfan86:
Pete is crippled with guilt and comes clean to Debbie whilst James and Emma are at the mortuary, then she's so horrified she leaves the house and bumps into James, I'm pretty sure he'd say if it is Ross lying on the slab or not, would you not? Doesn't seem clear but it sounds like Ross is missing and they disown Pete for what he did to him cause they don't know if he's dead or alive because of what Pete did to him. If if isn't Ross I imagine James would demand Pete take him to the sot where he left Ross, that's when we'll know one way or the other.

mariba:
Yeah, he's alive.. will be back badly injured.
Pete ends up confessing his part on his injuries as everyone blaming cain and ross tells it was pete. Debbie wants pete out of course, james begging her to give pete bit more time.. And Emma is needed to nurse ross back to health and look after moses.. And so on.. Nothing in those spoilers suggest that ross would be dead. In fact - if Ross was killed by Pete and Pete confessed, surely he'd be arrested straight away?

With mine, I think he's dead and found by police but I've made the huge assumption that when Emma reports Ross missing to the police on Friday 21st, she gives them a description of his appearance, hair colour, etc, and recent photograph, as seems usual practice when someone reports a missing person. When the police later show up at Butler's Farm (August 21st) to question Cain and say they've found a body which they think is Ross', I've assumed that they've already matched the description and photo they were given (if they had these?) with the body and that Emma only has to confirm the body is Ross when she goes to see it (Monday 24th?). However, this is PC Plod/Keystone Kops Emmerdale police, so maybe they've just found a lump of skin and bone down by the stream from some lost Emmerdale fan who wanted to look around the set a couple of weeks before and did a Gemma smashed-skull thing by falling backwards onto a rock? We'll see. So many possibilities for an active imagination, haha!

Mike Parr's CV shows he's a regular mobile actor, switching between films and soaps since 2009. He's already had acting parts in 5 films (the latest gets released October 2015), was in Hollyoaks (2012) and been in Emmerdale since October 2013. Matthew Wolfenden (David) and Charley Webb (Debbie) mentioned in this week's OK magazine that filming for Emmerdale has been involving 12-hour days, five days a week, and I can only guess that Mike Parr has been doing the same, maybe even more as it seems he was working on his last scenes before his apparent Emmerdale character exit in the woods. Maybe Mike Parr decided this Emmerdale work schedule was just too much to be able to pursue other bigger acting roles at the same time and wanted to leave Emmerdale? There are two sequels to Dark Ascension so he could have a part lined up for these already or have something else in mind? Time will tell.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Parr (Dark Ascension gets released Oct 2015)

[mariba]

Yes-but why couldn't they then just confirm that Ross is gone for good??
Why to keep people guessing and speculating?

I know it may well be to get more viewers for this/next week, but I'm telling you-as frustrated as Ross fans in social media are at the moment- that if he really is dead after all this, these 2 weeks viewing figures don't mean anything for Emmerdale's very poor figures after that as so many viewers will say 'goodbye' to Emmerdale.

[mariba]

Yes-but why couldn't they then just confirm that Ross is gone for good??
Why to keep people guessing and speculating?

I know it may well be to get more viewers for this/next week, but I'm telling you-as frustrated as Ross fans in social media are at the moment- that if he really is dead after all this, these 2 weeks viewing figures don't mean anything for Emmerdale's very poor figures after that as so many viewers will say 'goodbye' to Emmerdale.

[Telly Watcher]

Yes-but why couldn't they then just confirm that Ross is gone for good??
Why to keep people guessing and speculating?

I know it may well be to get more viewers for this/next week, but I'm telling you-as frustrated as Ross fans in social media are at the moment- that if he really is dead after all this, these 2 weeks viewing figures don't mean anything for Emmerdale's very poor figures after that as so many viewers will say 'goodbye' to Emmerdale.

I agree with you. There was a massive much-hyped build up to Summer Fate, I lost count of the number of times I saw the video trailer on ITV between other programmes during the run up to the episodes which screened the helicopter crash during the week of August 3rd-7th. 'The choices we make are the paths we take. Who will meet their summer fate?', a classic show catchphrase if there ever was one!

The problem with over-hyping shows is that people get disappointed by the reality when they see them and they then switch off when the flashes and bangs have stopped. It's like Christmas, New Year and Easter, etc. There's a surge of public interest and obsession for the week before and week after, but then interest fades and switches to the start of the next public holiday/summer holiday/Olympics/Eurovision/World Cup/Football Championship, etc, etc. It happens everytime.

I read that the viewing figures were something like 4-6 million for some episodes that week. Episodes for this following week have been boring again, especially now Ross has gone for now. Will storylines like Bob in prison hospital and Megan's failing pregnancy keep the viewing figures up? I doubt this. Emmerdale really needs some very juicy storylines fast. Hopefully the Barton family issues during August 24th-28th will kick-start/maintain viewer interest. I'm sort of hoping that a mixture of your and kennedyfan86 theories are right for what happens during this week and that Ross comes back and has his injuries taken care of by Emma. I think this really would boost the ratings. We should maybe all be Emmerdale storywriters (Kate Oates take note!).

[Perdita]

Round-up:

Pete is terrified as he watches James and Emma head off to identify the body and he tells Finn to prepare himself for the worst. Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell. Zak is worried by the state of Sam and Rachel’s relationship when he catches them rowing in the street. Then Sam tells Zak that he and Lisa are not welcome at Ruby’s funeral. Zak confides in Lisa that he thinks Rachel is knocking Sam about. Ashley is nervous about conducting Ruby’s funeral, worried that he will bungle things again. Sam is a pallbearer, but when his mobile goes off during the service, Rachel is furious and tells him later in the Woolpack that he has ruined everything. Ali witnesses her sister’s behaviour and tells her that it is time she made a decision. Diane gathers a small group in the backroom of the pub to watch Val’s DVD but Pollard is clearly inconsolable. In prison, Bob’s violent cellmate Ged puts pressure on him to smuggle stuff inside for him, using Brenda as the mule. Ged gets his friend Anita to give Brenda a SIM card for her to bring inside, but when she passes through security she sets off the metal detector. With Harriet still unable to find Carly, things are looking bleak for the pair. Their only hope is for Bob to be released before Ged. Jai is having trouble shifting the cocaine and tries to recruit Kirin to do his dirty work. When he finds out what Jai has been up to, Rakesh is furious. David tells Alicia that their plans for Portugal are on hold forhttp://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif now – he has to take care of Pollard.

[mariba]

This kind of reveals it..he's alive-or he's not the body found anyway. Someone said somewhere else that what if it's Declan's body they find? But surely police can see the difference with body only over one week old and months old..I don't want Declan dead either :) It doesn't matter who the body is as long as it's not Ross..

[kennedyfan86]

Mike is clearly on an extended break and they'll keep it quiet in the same way as they did with the twist with Ross and Pete in the first place. Kate Oates is not going to come out and say one way or the other cause all interest in the show is good, the more the better, the minute they reveal anything people don't want to hear, there'll be a massive dip in viewing figures, they won't want that cause soaps fluctuate so much in the ratings as it is these days

[Telly Watcher]

Pete is terrified as he watches James and Emma head off to identify the body and he tells Finn to prepare himself for the worst. Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell.

This reveals some things but raises more questions for me. I don't think it's clear from just this extra limited info that Ross is dead or alive, he may still remain missing for the whole week of August 24th-28th and beyond that. I can still think of different explanations for the limited spoiler details we've had so far.

7270 Monday 24 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete makes a confession

Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell.'
It sounds like Pete confesses to Debbie and/or Finn about what he's really done with Ross.
If accurate, the underlined statement is very revealing. It sounds like there is doubt about the mortuary visit and the body isn't Ross? If so, then the storywriters have set up the Emmerdale police to be PC Plod/Keystone Kops again? When Emma reports Ross as missing to the police on Friday 21st, I would expect her to give the police a description of Ross' clothes and appearance and a recent photo to use to look for the two-week old body with. Most Emmerdale characters have great smartphones and it seems like most people in UK with them take phone photos nowadays. If Emma does give the police a description and photo, why don't the police use them to match with the body before calling at the farm to see Cain on Friday 21st to tell him they've found a body and they think it's Ross?

7271/72 Tuesday 25 August 7pm – 8pm. James begs Debbie for time

It sounds like James and Debbie now know what Pete's done to Ross, and Debbie either talks about leaving him, or him leaving her, or her going to the police, or someone checking the woods for the body?

7273 Wednesday 26 August 2015 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete is rejected by his family

It sounds like Pete gets told to stay away from Butlers Farm and the Barton family?

7274/75 Thursday 27 August 2015 7pm - 8pm. Pete faces up to the past

The past starts to catch up with Pete. Maybe Debbie talks about divorce or leaving Emmerdale, or Pete confesses to the police, or the police start closing in with forensics, or Pete goes to the woods to check the scene and/or bury the body, or Ross re-appears? If Ross has re-appeared, we'll need a really good explanation of how he survived in his injured state for two weeks, as his injuries looked like a serious hospital in-patient case to me.

7276 Friday 28 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Emma relishes being needed

Maybe Emma enjoys the role of just keeping the Barton family together. If Ross is back, maybe she nurses him at the farm?

Emmerdale Spoilers 24th - 28th August 2015, originally posted by Perdita, 12-08-15.
7270 Monday 24 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete makes a confession
7271/72 Tuesday 25 August 7pm – 8pm. James begs Debbie for time
7273 Wednesday 26 August 2015 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete is rejected by his family
7274/75 Thursday 27 August 2015 7pm - 8pm. Pete faces up to the past
7276 Friday 28 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Emma relishes being needed

[mariba]

Interesting to read these speculations based on spoilers. :)

Yeah-they don't seem to give away any info one way or the other-which starts to get really frustrating.

Regarding Ross's injuries-maybe he has managed to drag himself out of that hole and someone found him..We assume Pete drove good bit away so maybe whoever found him got him to another hospital. Of course, you would think police checks hospitals first in any missing person case. But like said-this is a soap police.

I have a feeling too that if he's alive and still missing, he won't be back next week yet..sadly. Based on those spoilers.

I know TellyWatcher that the producer doesn't reveal anything just to keep the viewing figures as high as possible-but like I've said already, if Ross ends up being dead after all this , those figures will drop drastically! I'm definitely one who will stop watching and I know few others. There's absolutely nothing to keep me interested if Ross is gone too. He's a good actor and Ross as a character funny at times too. And with Val gone already, it's all very bleak.
Jimmy&Nico are my favorite couple and they are not together at the moment either.

So without Ross-what do we actually have left? He's the one stirring things..
Barton family itself would be reduced in numbers..I assume Pete would be arrested and sent down(what was this talk about his character getting darker? Not much chance if he ends up in prison..)-so we would have Emma&James, maybe getting back together and looking after Moses. Finn? And thats it.
Moira+Cain together and Cain getting to know his son Kyle. And?
Debbie being single mum again?
Andy-yes Andy probably finding out about Katie and how she died, and then looking for revenge to Robert.
Vanessa's baby..Kirin..Belle..Adam..Victoria.. All I want is that baby secret to come out. It'll probably happen when something is wrong with the baby etc. yawn..
Bob, Brenda, Harriet..not interested how it happens. Just want Bob out.
The only funny character is Bernice at the moment and her relationship with Lawrence..But that wouldn't keep me watching..
No-we need a bad boy as Cain has gone too soft too. And he's just too predictable by now..we all know how Cain would react..Either he has to leave Moira and get back with Charity, or there's absolutely nothing to watch without Ross.
Rob is just twisted psycho, not tough bad. And he's gay-don't see attraction there. Not my type either. And Aaron and Finn gays too. Him& Kirin too young to drool over! :D We only have Adam!! Seriously??! :D Rakesh? Well no..
Yes-and this Jai, Rachel storyline better be over soon..so boring by now too.
Marlon's dating life and Laurel..omg..

[mariba]

Interesting to read these speculations based on spoilers. :)

Yeah-they don't seem to give away any info one way or the other-which starts to get really frustrating.

Regarding Ross's injuries-maybe he has managed to drag himself out of that hole and someone found him..We assume Pete drove good bit away so maybe whoever found him got him to another hospital. Of course, you would think police checks hospitals first in any missing person case. But like said-this is a soap police.

I have a feeling too that if he's alive and still missing, he won't be back next week yet..sadly. Based on those spoilers.

I know TellyWatcher that the producer doesn't reveal anything just to keep the viewing figures as high as possible-but like I've said already, if Ross ends up being dead after all this , those figures will drop drastically! I'm definitely one who will stop watching and I know few others. There's absolutely nothing to keep me interested if Ross is gone too. He's a good actor and Ross as a character funny at times too. And with Val gone already, it's all very bleak.
Jimmy&Nico are my favorite couple and they are not together at the moment either.

So without Ross-what do we actually have left? He's the one stirring things..
Barton family itself would be reduced in numbers..I assume Pete would be arrested and sent down(what was this talk about his character getting darker? Not much chance if he ends up in prison..)-so we would have Emma&James, maybe getting back together and looking after Moses. Finn? And thats it.
Moira+Cain together and Cain getting to know his son Kyle. And?
Debbie being single mum again?
Andy-yes Andy probably finding out about Katie and how she died, and then looking for revenge to Robert.
Vanessa's baby..Kirin..Belle..Adam..Victoria.. All I want is that baby secret to come out. It'll probably happen when something is wrong with the baby etc. yawn..
Bob, Brenda, Harriet..not interested how it happens. Just want Bob out.
The only funny character is Bernice at the moment and her relationship with Lawrence..But that wouldn't keep me watching..
No-we need a bad boy as Cain has gone too soft too. And he's just too predictable by now..we all know how Cain would react..Either he has to leave Moira and get back with Charity, or there's absolutely nothing to watch without Ross.
Rob is just twisted psycho, not tough bad. And he's gay-don't see attraction there. Not my type either. And Aaron and Finn gays too. Him& Kirin too young to drool over! :D We only have Adam!! Seriously??! :D Rakesh? Well no..
Yes-and this Jai, Rachel storyline better be over soon..so boring by now too.
Marlon's dating life and Laurel..omg..

[TaintedLove]

7270 Monday 24 August 7pm – 7.30pm

Pete makes a confession
Zak’s worries about Sam are compounded
Eric refuses to make arrangements

7271/72 Tuesday 25 August 7pm – 8pm

James begs Debbie for time
The villagers gather for Ruby’s funeral
Brenda is horrified by Bob’s request

7273 Wednesday 26 August 2015 7pm – 7.30pm

Pete is rejected by his family
Rachel says goodbye to the village
Dan struggles with his guilt

7274/75 Thursday 27 August 2015 7pm - 8pm

Pete faces up to the past
Bob stands up to Ged
Sam learns Megan’s secret

7276 Friday 28 August 7pm – 7.30pm

Emma relishes being needed
Rakesh takes a hard line with Jai
Eric’s resentment of Diane grows

I hope that`s true.
Even better would be if she took Ali with her.

[Telly Watcher]

Interesting to read these speculations based on spoilers. :)

Yeah-they don't seem to give away any info one way or the other-which starts to get really frustrating.

Regarding Ross's injuries-maybe he has managed to drag himself out of that hole and someone found him..We assume Pete drove good bit away so maybe whoever found him got him to another hospital. Of course, you would think police checks hospitals first in any missing person case. But like said-this is a soap police.

I have a feeling too that if he's alive and still missing, he won't be back next week yet..sadly. Based on those spoilers.

I know TellyWatcher that the producer doesn't reveal anything just to keep the viewing figures as high as possible-but like I've said already, if Ross ends up being dead after all this , those figures will drop drastically! I'm definitely one who will stop watching and I know few others. There's absolutely nothing to keep me interested if Ross is gone too. He's a good actor and Ross as a character funny at times too. And with Val gone already, it's all very bleak.
Jimmy&Nico are my favorite couple and they are not together at the moment either.

So without Ross-what do we actually have left? He's the one stirring things..
Barton family itself would be reduced in numbers..I assume Pete would be arrested and sent down(what was this talk about his character getting darker? Not much chance if he ends up in prison..)-so we would have Emma&James, maybe getting back together and looking after Moses. Finn? And thats it.
Moira+Cain together and Cain getting to know his son Kyle. And?
Debbie being single mum again?
Andy-yes Andy probably finding out about Katie and how she died, and then looking for revenge to Robert.
Vanessa's baby..Kirin..Belle..Adam..Victoria.. All I want is that baby secret to come out. It'll probably happen when something is wrong with the baby etc. yawn..
Bob, Brenda, Harriet..not interested how it happens. Just want Bob out.
The only funny character is Bernice at the moment and her relationship with Lawrence..But that wouldn't keep me watching..
No-we need a bad boy as Cain has gone too soft too. And he's just too predictable by now..we all know how Cain would react..Either he has to leave Moira and get back with Charity, or there's absolutely nothing to watch without Ross.
Rob is just twisted psycho, not tough bad. And he's gay-don't see attraction there. Not my type either. And Aaron and Finn gays too. Him& Kirin too young to drool over! :D We only have Adam!! Seriously??! :D Rakesh? Well no..
Yes-and this Jai, Rachel storyline better be over soon..so boring by now too.
Marlon's dating life and Laurel..omg..

I enjoyed reading all this. Here are my thoughts.

mariba wrote:
"I know TellyWatcher that the producer doesn't reveal anything just to keep the viewing figures as high as possible-but like I've said already, if Ross ends up being dead after all this , those figures will drop drastically! I'm definitely one who will stop watching and I know few others. There's absolutely nothing to keep me interested if Ross is gone too. He's a good actor and Ross as a character funny at times too. And with Val gone already, it's all very bleak."

I posted in the Ross Barton thread that usual Emmerdale viewing figures were averaging around 5.2million per episode before Summer Fate week, but rose to 6.08-6.45 for the Thursday episodes on August 6th showing Val being killed (and Ross?), whereas the Tuesday helicopter crash hour-long episode on August 4th was seen by 6.37million (digitalspy.co.uk).

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Emmerdale was Tuesday's top-rated programme (August 4) with a disastrous day for the village, overnight figures show.

6.37m (33.2%) tuned in at 7pm on ITV and 292k (1.5%) on +1 as an hour-long special saw a helicopter crash into Debbie and Pete's wedding reception at the village hall. This was the show's best rating since March 23.
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Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a661861/uk-tv-ratings-emmerdales-helicopter-crash-stunt-brings-in-64m.html#~pllTfIBVKT0YMC

Even if the viewing figures stayed up for this week (August 10th-14th), I don't think the extra roughly 1million viewers gained from Summer Fate week will stay for long when some of what they have to watch this week is about Rachel/Jai/Megan dealing drugs and Bob in jail getting beaten up by a murderer.

Rachel leaves the village on Wednesday 26th, I wish Jai would go soon too! Megan has been one of my favourite characters for ages, she's been the only one that I couldn't say a bad word about, but this week she's been drug dealing and shown as very naive in the way she's trying to beat Jai at his own game, which he's been playing and refining for a long time. Good luck to Megan for getting rid of Jai sometime. I can't understand Leyla, she knows Jai is unfaithful to Megan and others before and he's a rat but she still sees herself with him in a nice house and a cosy future, love is blind they say! Maybe Megan manages to make Jai's factory go bust somehow, if so this will really stir things up.

mariba wrote:
"Jimmy&Nico are my favorite couple and they are not together at the moment either."

Nicola Wheeler (Nicola) had a baby boy on March 13th. She's on maternity leave and will be coming back after.

Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3025588/It-s-boy-Emmerdale-star-Nicola-Wheeler-welcomes-child-just-weeks-confirming-pregnancy.html

mariba wrote:
"I assume Pete would be arrested and sent down(what was this talk about his character getting darker? Not much chance if he ends up in prison..)"

Pete gets disowned by the Bartons on Wednesday 26th, so he presumably loses his job at the farm and won't have any earnings. Maybe he turns to crime to pay the rent and bills, etc. Or, having tasted blood and death(?) from fighting with Ross, he becomes Cameron #2?

mariba wrote:
"so we would have Emma&James, maybe getting back together and looking after Moses."

The spoiler for Friday 28th talks about when 'Emma relishes being needed'. I was also thinking that this could mean that Emma and James get back together. But I seem to remember a while back that Bill Ward (James Barton) was rumoured to be leaving Emmerdale, so maybe if Emma and James get together again it may not last for very long? In any case, remember how Emma caused a loaded pallet to fall on top of James in the farm barn in January 2015 and nearly killed him, but he was saved by Pete. Maybe Emma isn't the best woman to have a close relationship with? I wonder how long Emma and James are meant to be in Emmerdale?

mariba wrote:
"Debbie being single mum again?"

Debbie is looking after Moses for now, Ross' baby. However, Charlie Webb (Debbie) is pregnant for real and due for her second child in December 2015. Any storyline for now will be a short one. I wonder what her exit storyline will be and will it only be temporary for maternity leave or will it be permanent (unlikely, I think)?

mariba wrote:
"Andy-yes Andy probably finding out about Katie and how she died, and then looking for revenge to Robert."

There's a big storyline this autumn. I think Robert could be seriously hurt by Andy in some way or another. Maybe he ends up leaving Emmerdale dead or disappearing?

mariba wrote:
"Vanessa's baby..Kirin..Belle..Adam..Victoria.. All I want is that baby secret to come out. It'll probably happen when something is wrong with the baby etc. yawn.."

Kirin is about to involved with the drugs that Megan planted on Jai. Will Kirin get busted as a dealer or will it all blow over to nothing (maybe there's a joke in there somewhere? haha!). As you wrote, mariba, there's also the baby story for Kirin. And will we get the first Emmerdale love-square for a long while = Kirin/Vanessa/Priya/Belle? Over-the-top again or what?

I'm wondering about this Granny Clegg's cordial stuff which Belle has told Kirin about and which he wants to make in Jai's (for now?) factory. I wonder if it's safe to drink or does it make something bad happen to you, like grow a 10 foot long beard on your chin overnight? I hope Belle gets partnership in the company for providing this Dingle family product for commercial use. Maybe Belle and Kirin become more than business partners later? We'll see.

mariba wrote:
"Marlon's dating life and Laurel..omg.."

I'm not a fan of Marlon. He's either over sentimental or shouting, and scenes showing him with bestie Paddy fail to be funny for me. Laurel needs someone else to cheer her up (and us too!).

mariba wrote:
"Rob is just twisted psycho, not tough bad."

As mentioned, Robert has a big story in autumn with Andy. Maybe Robert leaves/dies? Chrissie has left the village for now to stay with a friend. I'm hoping that she leaves permanently in due course.

Maybe the 'cast cull' is gathering pace now? We'll see.

[Telly Watcher]

I can still think of different explanations for the limited spoiler details we've had so far.

I'd like Ross to come back sooner or later, and a number of storylines would fit the spoiler info we know for now which would make this work.

Here's one that mariba posted earlier this afternoon.
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What I really think is going to happen with Ross, is that he's going to stay as a missing person for few months to come. Mike Parr will that way have a nice break too to try out new things -maybe Strictly? ;)

Pete panics when Emma and James go to mortuary to identify the body, and under pressure ends up telling the truth(or some of it-that they had a fight and he left Ross for dead..), later when the body found turns out not to be Ross and everyone knows what Pete has done, they turn against him and Debbie wants him out, even thinking to call the police. That's why James is begging Debbie to give Pete bit more time. Pete goes to check where he left Ross,maybe thinking to bury him properly- only to find out that he's not there. This takes Pete to a very dark place. His family has turned their back on him, Debbie has left him..He's struggling with his guilt and now even panicking about Ross coming back. I have a feeling that Mike Parr has indeed left the show-but hopefully only temporarily.
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But I'm now going to imagine an alternative storyline, in which Mike Parr doesn't come back and which also fits the spoiler info we know for now.

7270 Monday 24 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete makes a confession / Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell.
7271/72 Tuesday 25 August 7pm – 8pm. James begs Debbie for time
7273 Wednesday 26 August 2015 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete is rejected by his family
7274/75 Thursday 27 August 2015 7pm - 8pm. Pete faces up to the past
7276 Friday 28 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Emma relishes being needed

James and Emma go to the mortuary on Monday 24th and the body is Ross. Emma is devastated and heart-broken and blames Cain, as he had a motive to kill Ross for having a relationship with Debbie whilst she was going out with/engaged to Pete. Following Emma's suspicions about Cain, the police now think Cain has murdered Ross but have yet to prove it through forensics and questioning. Whilst James and Emma are at the morgue, Pete cracks at his house and tells Debbie what he really did to Ross. When James and Emma come back from the mortuary, Debbie tells James what Pete has done. Debbie says that she's going to the police to help save her father Cain from a murder charge but James says to wait, hoping that police enquiries and forensics can rule out Cain as having any opportunity for killing Ross and dumping the body where the police found it. Debbie and the Barton family then tell Pete that they want him out of their lives, as they are scared of what he's capable of and he has killed the middle Barton son. They also close ranks and don't tell the police anything just yet. Pete broods about what to do next. As his job at the farm is gone and he no longer has any earnings, he thinks about owning up to the police to get Cain off the hook for murder, or going on the run, or laying low in Emmerdale whilst making money from dodgy deals. Whatever he decides, he's on his own for now. In the meantime, Emma restarts her relationship with James at the farm and sets about bringing the Barton family back together now that Pete is no longer part of it.

We should have spoiler info for episodes for August 31st - September 4th next week from around August 19th next week, so this should help to guess more next week about which storyline the Emmerdale storywriters might have written for August 24th-28th.

[mariba]

The only problem is that there is no Bartons left to bring back together if Ross dead and they disown Pete.
Plus that with that theory Cain would be in trouble too - so we would not only have lost Ross but now Cain too. And surely none of the Bartons would be welcome to Home Farm.

[kennedyfan86]

The only problem is that there is no Bartons left to bring back together if Ross dead and they disown Pete.
Plus that with that theory Cain would be in trouble too - so we would not only have lost Ross but now Cain too. And surely none of the Bartons would be welcome to Home Farm.

Maybe just means James, Emma, Finn and Moses, I doubt Adam would get a look in with Emma, she'd probably give him the poisoned apple

[kennedyfan86]

The only problem is that there is no Bartons left to bring back together if Ross dead and they disown Pete.
Plus that with that theory Cain would be in trouble too - so we would not only have lost Ross but now Cain too. And surely none of the Bartons would be welcome to Home Farm.

Maybe just means James, Emma, Finn and Moses, I doubt Adam would get a look in with Emma, she'd probably give him the poisoned apple

[Telly Watcher]

But I'm now going to imagine an alternative storyline, in which Mike Parr doesn't come back and which also fits the spoiler info we know for now.

7270 Monday 24 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete makes a confession / Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell.
7271/72 Tuesday 25 August 7pm – 8pm. James begs Debbie for time
7273 Wednesday 26 August 2015 7pm – 7.30pm. Pete is rejected by his family
7274/75 Thursday 27 August 2015 7pm - 8pm. Pete faces up to the past
7276 Friday 28 August 7pm – 7.30pm. Emma relishes being needed

James and Emma go to the mortuary on Monday 24th and the body is Ross. Emma is devastated and heart-broken and blames Cain, as he had a motive to kill Ross for having a relationship with Debbie whilst she was going out with/engaged to Pete. Following Emma's suspicions about Cain, the police now think Cain has murdered Ross but have yet to prove it through forensics and questioning. Whilst James and Emma are at the morgue, Pete cracks at his house and tells Debbie what he really did to Ross. When James and Emma come back from the mortuary, Debbie tells James what Pete has done. Debbie says that she's going to the police to help save her father Cain from a murder charge but James says to wait, hoping that police enquiries and forensics can rule out Cain as having any opportunity for killing Ross and dumping the body where the police found it. Debbie and the Barton family then tell Pete that they want him out of their lives, as they are scared of what he's capable of and he has killed the middle Barton son. They also close ranks and don't tell the police anything just yet. Pete broods about what to do next. As his job at the farm is gone and he no longer has any earnings, he thinks about owning up to the police to get Cain off the hook for murder, or going on the run, or laying low in Emmerdale whilst making money from dodgy deals. Whatever he decides, he's on his own for now. In the meantime, Emma restarts her relationship with James at the farm and sets about bringing the Barton family back together now that Pete is no longer part of it.

We should have spoiler info for episodes for August 31st - September 4th from around August 19th next week, so this should help to guess more next week about which storyline the Emmerdale storywriters might have written for August 24th-28th.

Perdita wrote yesterday:
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Pete is terrified as he watches James and Emma head off to identify the body and he tells Finn to prepare himself for the worst. Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell.
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After more thought on this, I now think that Pete cracks at the house and tells Finn what he really did to Ross. When James comes back from the mortuary, Finn tells James what Pete has done to Ross, and Debbie also gets told too by Finn or James or Pete.

The alternative storyline theory becomes...

James and Emma go to the mortuary on Monday 24th and the body is Ross. Emma is devastated and heart-broken and blames Cain, as he had a motive to kill Ross for having a relationship with Debbie whilst she was going out with/engaged to Pete. Following Emma's suspicions about Cain, the police now think Cain has murdered Ross but have yet to prove it through forensics and questioning. Whilst James and Emma are at the mortuary, Pete cracks at his house and tells Finn what he really did to Ross. When James and Emma come back from the mortuary, Finn tells James what Pete has done. Debbie also gets told too by Finn or James or Pete. Debbie says that she's going to the police to help save her father Cain from a murder charge but James says to wait, hoping that police enquiries and forensics can rule out Cain as having any opportunity for killing Ross and dumping the body where the police found it. Debbie and the Barton family then tell Pete that they want him out of their lives, as they are scared of what he's capable of and he has killed the middle Barton son. They also close ranks and don't tell the police anything just yet. Pete broods about what to do next. As his job at the farm is gone and he no longer has any earnings, he thinks about owning up to the police to get Cain off the hook for murder, or going on the run, or laying low in Emmerdale whilst making money from dodgy deals. Whatever he decides, he's on his own for now. In the meantime, Emma restarts her relationship with James at the farm and sets about bringing the Barton family back together now that Pete is no longer part of it.

[mariba]

Well-as said before, I wouldn't be watching at that stage as there wouldn't be anything to keep me interested.

There's was some talk about Pete going to a darker place and going after those who have wronged him. He must be found guilty, surely if Ross is dead as his DNA would be all over the place!
If Cain got the blame, he would be gone, so that would be 2 bad boys out of the picture. These court scenes and prisons just don't interest me, seen enough of those in soaps recently. And Pete's struggle..? No interest whatsoever if Ross really is dead, Pete deserves everything.

I just don't see 'Ross dead'-storyline interesting either. It would just be a waiting game which we've seen before with Cameron and so many others..Whereas if he was left alive, even if off-screen-that would be psychologically much more interesting thinking 'oh when is he coming back?' , watching Pete panic and the whole family coping with a family member gone missing. Has there been missing person-storyline in Emmerdale, Corrie before? I know Cain disappeared for a while but was he really missing-they knew(Dingles) that he was alive.

[mariba]

Well-as said before, I wouldn't be watching at that stage as there wouldn't be anything to keep me interested.

There's was some talk about Pete going to a darker place and going after those who have wronged him. He must be found guilty, surely if Ross is dead as his DNA would be all over the place!
If Cain got the blame, he would be gone, so that would be 2 bad boys out of the picture. These court scenes and prisons just don't interest me, seen enough of those in soaps recently. And Pete's struggle..? No interest whatsoever if Ross really is dead, Pete deserves everything.

I just don't see 'Ross dead'-storyline interesting either. It would just be a waiting game which we've seen before with Cameron and so many others..Whereas if he was left alive, even if off-screen-that would be psychologically much more interesting thinking 'oh when is he coming back?' , watching Pete panic and the whole family coping with a family member gone missing. Has there been missing person-storyline in Emmerdale, Corrie before? I know Cain disappeared for a while but was he really missing-they knew(Dingles) that he was alive.

[mariba]

Plus-Debbie wouldn't wait and let her dad take the blame, no way!

And very unlikely that James would protect Pete on this? Or is Pete still his golden boy - even after killing his brother??

[maidmarian]

Maybe just means James, Emma, Finn and Moses, I doubt Adam would get a look in with Emma, she'd probably give him the poisoned apple

I agree about Adam .
Also-weeks if not months ago it was
mentioned on here about actor who plays
James leaving and it seemed to be factual
rather than opinion.
It seemed to fit as actor doesnt seem.to
like stay in one role too long.
So one less Barton !?

[maidmarian]

Dupl

[kennedyfan86]

I agree about Adam .
Also-weeks if not months ago it was
mentioned on here about actor who plays
James leaving and it seemed to be factual
rather than opinion.
It seemed to fit as actor doesnt seem.to
like stay in one role too long.
So one less Barton !?

I thought the extension to the Barton's would've been more popular than I seems to have been. Bill Ward is an excellent actor with a dull character to play with. Anthony Quinlan is a wooden actor whose acting ability has only improved since Pete accidentally "murdered" his brother. Mike Parr and Joe Gill are the ones to watch, very good actors and characters and Gillian Kearney has been good in other roles, but Emma I not the character I would've liked her to be, it has not been exciting having her come in cause it hasn't been played out in the right way and they made her too loopy

[kennedyfan86]

I agree about Adam .
Also-weeks if not months ago it was
mentioned on here about actor who plays
James leaving and it seemed to be factual
rather than opinion.
It seemed to fit as actor doesnt seem.to
like stay in one role too long.
So one less Barton !?

I thought the extension to the Barton's would've been more popular than it seems to have been. Bill Ward is an excellent actor with a dull character to play with. Anthony Quinlan is a wooden actor whose acting ability has only improved since Pete accidentally "murdered" his brother. Mike Parr and Joe Gill are the ones to watch, very good actors and characters and Gillian Kearney has been good in other roles, but Emma is not the character I would've liked her to be, it has not been exciting having her come in cause it hasn't been played out in the right way and they made her too loopy

[Telly Watcher]

Plus-Debbie wouldn't wait and let her dad take the blame, no way!

And very unlikely that James would protect Pete on this? Or is Pete still his golden boy - even after killing his brother??

I think Debbie would wait. I expect Cain would just be under suspicion whilst the police make further enquiries and wait for results from forensics. I think Debble would be very scared that Pete could kill her if she made the wrong move and went to the police so soon. You know how many bad boys she's had close to her in life (Cain, Ross, Cameron,...) and seen a lot of bad stuff over the years, so she's experienced enough to know to just get Pete to stay away from her for now.

I think James would protect Pete over this, for a while anyway. He is his eldest son (usually the golden boy, as you wrote, mariba) and wouldn't want to lose another of his sons, at least not in such a short space of time anyway. If you remember, it was Pete who saved James' life when Emma made the loaded pallet fall onto James and nearly killed him in January 2015, so I suppose James still owes Pete a big favour for saving his life. James may just wait for the police to prove that Pete was involved with Ross' death (IF he is dead, only one of several possible theories for now, of course) as I expect the Barton family (what remains of it) will stay silent about Pete, even though they disown him and presumably don't have him living or working at the farm for at least the time being. It was an accident initially during an angry fight, but the final kicking by Pete went beyond accident maybe and there may have been a murderous intent behind this even if Pete hadn't meant for this when the fight began?

[mariba]

Even worse than accidentally killing him+further kicking him, is that he was outside the hospital and could have easily called for help. But he didn't. That makes Pete a monster.

But-I don't like this theory. Ross HAS TO BE ALIVE!

[mariba]

Even worse than accidentally killing him+further kicking him, is that he was outside the hospital and could have easily called for help. But he didn't. That makes Pete a monster.

But-I don't like this theory. Ross HAS TO BE ALIVE!

[Telly Watcher]

Here is some more spoiler info which may be useful to help explain how the Emmerdale storyline might run for August 24th-28th when we get to see these episodes.

dalesfan wrote yesterday on the Ross Barton thread:
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Michael Parr signed a new 1 year contract last year. Reportedly August. So yes it would be up now. And Seeing as he has left the show now the timing does sound about right. They wrapped the Summer Fate stuff early July. This would mean he still had a few weeks left in his contract? Now I'm not really sure how it all works. BUT he was still seen at the studios in these last few weeks. This is why people still think it doesn't add up. If they have Killed Ross then he wouldn't be needed at the studios as there would be nothing for him to film. Unless he isn't really dead comes back or is found. Has some pretty nasty injuries and then leaves the show.
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Telly Watcher wrote yesterday on the Ross Barton thread:
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Mike Parr joined Emmerdale as Ross during 2013 and appeared first on July 9th as an unknown criminal character when he car-jacked Laurel in town. This appearance was presumably a screen-test which he was successful in as he eventually became a regular Emmerdale character on October 24th. In this episode, he showed up at Butlers Farm with a gunshot wound from a dodgy deal which had backfired and which Cain, being smart, had previously turned down and given to him, saying it was an easy job. It was at the farm that Moira realised that he was her dead husbands's brother's son named Ross, so she allowed him to stay. The other Barton brothers moved into the farm afterwards.

It sounds like Mike Parr's initial regular Emmerdale contract ran to August 2014 and was renewed to expire by August 2015. This means that he may now be out of contract and free from Emmerdale.
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I've thought further now on this and realised that the regular Emmerdale contracts for the other Bartons should also have expired around now, that's for James, Finn, Pete and Emma.

Anthony Quinlan (Pete) and Joe Gill (Finn) were announced as cast members on 5/11/13 and both appeared on TV during the episode for December 6th 2013.

Bill Ward (James) was announced as a cast member on 29/09/13 and appeared on TV during the episode for October 25th 2013.

Gillian Kearney (Emma) was announced as a cast member on 11/08/14 and appeared on TV during the episode for January 2nd 2015.

If their contracts were like Ross', and starting in August, then their regular contracts would have been due for renewal after 1 year and should also have expired around August 2015? Emma joined the Emmerdale cast around August 2014, so her 1 year contract should also have expired around August 2015?

This could mean that all of the Bartons may have completed filming now and are up for leaving Emmerdale when the episodes already filmed with them in get shown up to about October 2015? I wonder if this whole-family Barton clear-out is amongst what Kate Oates has planned as part of the 'cast cull' we've been told to expect in the news?

So what could happen by October 2015?

Maybe Pete gets written out by going to prison for a long time for murdering Ross?

Maybe James gets written out by being killed by 'dangerous' Emma?

Perhaps Emma kills James and herself at the same time or she goes to prison or just leaves Emmerdale?

Now that Val is gone and Finn no longer has a surrogate mother, maybe he is left as the surviving/free Barton member who leaves the village to go somewhere else by October 2015. He does have a university degree so I suppose he could finally use that and get a proper career somewhere else away from Emmerdale? Finn did plan to go to Tokyo for a new life during 2014 but didn't have the money to go, that's when he asked Declan for a job reference for another job somewhere (not sure where, UK?) but didn't get it because it was a poor reference.

All of this is hypothetical, of course, I'm only suggesting these things as there are completed filmed episodes waiting to be shown on TV up to October 2015 and a lot like this could happen in such a long time as this is soapland.

This contract issue for the Barton family could explain a lot about why the real Ross storyline could be that Ross has really been killed off by Pete and that Mike Parr has really left Emmerdale (to be followed by the other cast members of the Barton family?).

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Barton

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Emmerdale_characters

[mariba]

I'm not reading any more speculation.
I really don't care about their contracts-or even if Ross/Mike leaves/or has already left(as they are always filming few weeks ahead). The only thing that does matter to me, is that Ross would leave the village alive by his own choice, not in a box. That would leave the door open for him(maybe)to return one day. Or not. But would be more comforting to know that there's still that possibility.
Emmerdale village would be even more duller if Bartons disappeared too!

I must say Corrie is so much more enjoyable at the moment..

[mariba]

I'm not reading any more speculation.
I really don't care about their contracts-or even if Ross/Mike leaves/or has already left(as they are always filming few weeks ahead). The only thing that does matter to me, is that Ross would leave the village alive by his own choice, not in a box. That would leave the door open for him(maybe)to return one day. Or not. But would be more comforting to know that there's still that possibility.
Emmerdale village would be even more duller if Bartons disappeared too!

I must say Corrie is so much more enjoyable at the moment..

[Lustyfan]

I don't believe that the body Will be Ross

[Perdita]

Emmerdale's Debbie Dingle will be left horrified later this month when her husband Pete Barton confesses to killing his brother Ross.

Fans were left stunned when Ross met an untimely end in a huge showdown with Pete (Anthony Quinlan) that went horribly wrong.

Upcoming episodes will see the rest of the Barton family become worried over Ross's disappearance, realising that all is not right.

Ross's mother Emma will lead the efforts to solve the mystery, which leads to the police agreeing to investigate.

As the Bartons prepare for the worst, the latest developments leave Pete crippled with fear as he knows the discovery of Ross's body will bring the police to his door.

With the net closing in, a panic-stricken Pete decides to tell Debbie (Charley Webb) everything and confesses to killing Ross, telling her that he suffered a serious head injury amid their fight.
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Pete tells Debbie everything
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Pete tells Debbie everything
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Debbie is horrified by Pete's confession
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Debbie is horrified by Pete's confession

A disgusted Debbie immediately compares Pete to her dangerous killer ex Cameron Murray, before demanding that they go and find Ross's body.

After Debbie yells at Pete to stay away from her, James soon spots her running down the street in a panic. Is he about to learn the truth as well?
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Debbie tells Pete he reminds her of Cameron, and that he should stay away
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Debbie tells Pete he reminds her of Cameron
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A furious Debbie demands that Pete shows her where Ross's body is
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Debbie wants to find Ross's body

Emmerdale airs these scenes on Monday, August 24 and in an hour-long episode on Tuesday, August 25 at 7pm on ITV.


Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a663483/soap-spoilers-emmerdale-confession-eastenders-discovery-coronation-street-kiss-hollyoaks-crash.html#ixzz3iwmuK2NM

[Telly Watcher]

Daily Star, August 16th 2015

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Emmerdale: Secret's too much for Debs

PETE Barton admits killing his brother Ross – leaving his new wife Debbie terrified.

With the village still in shock after the helicopter crash, guilty Pete struggles to keep what he did a secret.

And with his mum Emma determined to track Ross down, poor Pete doesn’t know what to do. Emma realises something is wrong when she discovers her missing son’s phone and wallet. Suspecting Debbie has something to do with his disappearance she confronts her cheating daughter-in-law and demands answers.

Stressed-out Debbie goes to see her dad Cain who reveals he left Ross at the top of a cliff to stop him ruining her wedding.

She pleads with him to tell Emma what happened, not realising Pete is behind his disappearance.

Emma calls the police and is shocked when they arrive to tell her they’ve found a body and think it might be Ross.

An Emmerdale insider said “Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry”.

As Emma and former husband James go to identify the corpse, Pete breaks down and tells Debbie everything.

An Emmerdale insider said: “Debbie can’t believe what she is hearing. She went through so much at the hands of her serial killer ex-lover Cameron Murray and is terrified Pete is just like him.

“She didn’t realise what Cameron was like until it was too late.

“Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry and needed to tell someone. He is dreading his parents going to the morgue as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there. Pete knows what he did and has to face up to it.”
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Source: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz-tv/hot-tv/459506/Emmerdale-murder-soap-spoliers


"as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there". Sounds like the body in the morgue isn't Ross?

I think Ross is dead though. If the body in the morgue isn't Ross we'll just be kept wondering after the episode on Monday 24th whether Ross did somehow survive and come out the woods alive. Keeps the viewing figures up to do this of course.

[Telly Watcher]

Daily Star, August 16th 2015

Emma calls the police and is shocked when they arrive to tell her they’ve found a body and think it might be Ross.

Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry and needed to tell someone. He is dreading his parents going to the morgue as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there.

Telly Watcher wrote on 16-08-15:
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Daily Star, August 16th 2015

Emma calls the police and is shocked when they arrive to tell her they’ve found a body and think it might be Ross.
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Emma calls the police on Friday 21st. It sounds as if they don't visit her first at the farm to record a description of Ross' clothes and appearance and get a photo of him to use. Instead, the police have already found a body by the time they arrive at the farm so they assume it's Ross as no-one else has presumably been reported as missing from Emmerdale. This would mean that the body at the mortuary could be anyone found anywhere in Emmerdale.

When James and Emma go to the mortuary on Monday 24th to check the body, it is still uncertain and unclear from the spoilers available for now whether it is Ross or not, but some spoilers hint that the body is not Ross, see spoilers below.

Perdita posted on 13-08-15
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Pete is terrified as he watches James and Emma head off to identify the body and he tells Finn to prepare himself for the worst. Not realising what has gone on at the mortuary, Pete drops a bombshell.
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Telly Watcher wrote on 16-08-15:
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Daily Star, August 16th 2015

Pete is beside himself with guilt and worry and needed to tell someone. He is dreading his parents going to the morgue as he is convinced it will be Ross’ body lying there."
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When James gets back to the village, Debbie runs into him.

Perdita posted on 16-08-15
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With the net closing in, a panic-stricken Pete decides to tell Debbie (Charley Webb) everything and confesses to killing Ross, telling her that he suffered a serious head injury amid their fight.

A disgusted Debbie immediately compares Pete to her dangerous killer ex Cameron Murray, before demanding that they go and find Ross's body.

After Debbie yells at Pete to stay away from her, James soon spots her running down the street in a panic.'
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Debbie must tell James some or all of what Pete has just told her because other spoilers have said this.

Presumably, James will then tell Debbie about the body he and Emma have just seen in the mortuary.

If it's Ross, then the police should already suspect Cain because this is what Emma suspected from what Debbie told her earlier before Emma called the police.

If it isn't Ross (and this is what I think is now more likely because it seems as if the police weren't given a description and photo of Ross before they found the body), I expect that James and Debbie will put pressure on Pete to go to the woods with them to where Pete dumped Ross' body. When he goes (or when they go), then either 1) Ross is there dead and they all have an unburied body to deal with, or 2) there's no body there and they won't know if someone has found Ross dead or alive and taken him away, or 3) Ross regained consciousness after Pete left him for dead and Ross then left the woods by himself and disappeared.

When Pete/James/Debbie go to the woods, it will by then be about two weeks after the fight at the hospital, so this would be far too long for even a fit healthy person to survive without water, food and proper shelter alone in the woods, so it is not likely that they could find an injured Ross still there alive in the woods. He either has to be found dead there, or the dead body taken away, or Ross walked away/got rescued alive (with possible memory loss, turns up again one day in Emmerdale 2016?).

There hasn't been any news of Mike Parr (Ross) having a new contract with Emmerdale (present one expired around August 2015) and his Twitter post on August 14th states that he is starting a new job in London involving rehearsals. (I reckon that Mike Parr is unlikely to lie to his fans on Twitter or any other medium and he is more likely to remain silent about something confidential than to lie, so I think we can assume that the job in London is real, the question is how long is it for?)

Anthony Quinlan (Pete) has an existing Emmerdale contract which was announced on December 7th 2014 (for 1 year), so he could still be in Emmerdale TV episodes shown until about February 2016 even without a renewed contract from December 2015.

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Anthony Quinlan signs new Emmerdale contract
Sunday, 7th December 2014

Anthony Quinlan has signed a new lucrative Emmerdale contract that will keep him in the village for at least another 12 months.
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Source: http://www.soapsquawk.co.uk/news/anthony-quinlan-signs-new-emmerdale-contract.php


As an aside, other new contracts (these are usually for 1 year) recently include:

John Bowe (Lawrence), announced July 21st 2015 (digitalspy.co.uk)

Pasha Bocarie (Rakesh), announced June 14th 2015 (digitalspy.co.uk)

Chris Bisson (Jai), announced June 11th 2015 (digitalspy.co.uk)

Gemma Atkinson (Carly), announced March 7th 2015 (express.co.uk)

Roxy Shahidi (Leyla), announced January 6th 2015 (unrealitytv.co.uk)

Sources: (As shown)

Confirmed characters leaving Emmerdale as at July 29th 2015 include:

Charlie Hardwick (Val), leaving August 2015

Gemma Oaten (Rachel), leaving Summer 2015

Natalie Anderson (Alicia), leaving 2015

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/sitenews/a130011/soaplands-joiners-movers-and-leavers.html

The list is awaiting update, but Mike Parr is not yet listed as leaving Emmerdale as at July 29th 2015.

[alan45]

Airs Monday, Aug 24 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Pete panics as James and Emma set off to identify Ross's body. He tells Finn that he should prepare himself for the worst. James and Emma try to phone Pete after seeing the body but he doesn't answer his phone.

Pete is crippled with fear as he expects the police to come calling at any moment. This drives him to make a confession as he tells Debbie that he killed Ross.

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Emma and James wait anxiously at the mortuary

Meanwhile, Zak sees Sam and Rachel rowing when the car breaks down. Zak tries to raise the matter with Rachel but she reacts badly. Later, Rachel puts Sam under pressure to tell Zak and Lisa that they won't be welcome at Ruby's funeral. When Zak hears this, he is more worried than ever about what's going on.

Elsewhere, Ashley and Diane are finding it hard to get Eric to open up and discuss Val's funeral arrangements, so Diane uses underhand methods to find out what they are.

Also today, Ali is back in the village for Ruby's funeral. Dan explains exactly what happened, but it's clear that he's still suffering himself.

Finally, Priya is unimpressed when Rakesh tells her what Jimmy wants, while Emma and James give into their passion.

Airs Tuesday, Aug 25 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Hour-long episode

Debbie is shocked by Pete's confession, while he is floored to learn that the body in the morgue is not Ross but a complete stranger. Pete reluctantly tells Debbie about the deadly fight he had with Ross on the day of the wedding. When Debbie wants them to go and find Ross's body, Pete loses his temper and asks her how she can still love his brother. She is horrified by his outburst and begins to panic, shouting at Pete to stay away and thinking he is just like Cameron.

Soon afterwards, James finds a panicked Debbie running down the street and is soon left in shock when Pete tells him that he killed Ross. When he learns that his son is serious, a devastated James asks Pete to take him to where he left the body. Forced to agree, Pete takes James out in the moors.

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Debbie is horrified by Pete's confession

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Pete shows James where he left Ross's body

Meanwhile, it's time for Ruby's funeral but Lisa and Zak struggle after being banned from the service. Lisa is shocked when Zak tells her that he thinks Rachel is being violent towards Sam. Outside the church, Ali is concerned by Rachel's furious reaction when Sam's phone goes off as he is pall bearing. Later in The Woolpack, Rachel tells Sam that he ruined Ruby's funeral. Sam follows her outside, fearing her temper. Once outside, Ali is witness to Rachel's behaviour and makes a life-changing suggestion to her sister.

Elsewhere, Diane gathers a small group in The Woolpack back room to watch Val's DVD, which turns out to be a lively video detailing how she wants a spectacular and extravagant send-off. All except a numb Eric are amused and touched to see Val again - until she dishes out some rather harsh opinions!

Also today, Bob is left uneasy when Ged tries to coerce him into getting Brenda to sneak stuff into prison for him. Bob comes clean to Brenda about Ged's demands, but will she cooperate?


Airs Wednesday, Aug 26 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

James fills in Emma about what happened with Pete and Ross. Pete tries to talk to Debbie but is guilt-ridden when she compares him to Cameron and warns him to stay away from her. She points out that even if she could forgive him, he will never truly forgive her for the affair with Ross. Pete is devastated but unable to deny it.

Later, Pete feels the scorn of his family for the first time in his life.

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Pete feels the wrath of his family when he arrives

Meanwhile, Ged has arranged for his friend Anita to meet Brenda with a sim card for her to sneak into prison. As Brenda arrives through prison security, she sets off the metal detector. Will a terrified Brenda get through this?

Elsewhere, despite knowing it's for the best, Sam is devastated to be losing Rachel. Jai is shocked to hear that Rachel is moving to Liverpool but is powerless to stop her. Rachel goes to see Megan and thanks her for her help. She is shocked when Megan reveals that she is still pregnant. Later, Rachel says her goodbyes.

Also today, Ali tells Amelia that she is going to live with Sean. Dan is told that he needs to be there for his daughter, but it's clear that he is still struggling.

Finally, David tells Alicia the move to Portugal is on hold for now. Alicia convinces him to book flights, but it's clear that he is reluctant.


Airs Thursday, Aug 27 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Hour-long episode

Cain is angry to learn that Pete is hanging around, but Moira thinks he wouldn't attack Debbie as he worships the ground she walks on. Cain isn't convinced and points out that Cameron did as well.

Later, Debbie is unnerved to see Pete in her house. He tells her that he is just picking up his belongings, but he is heartbroken to see that she is terrified of him.

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Pete is disappointed that Debbie is scared of him

Meanwhile, Bob tells a frightened Brenda that she won't have to sneak anything else into prison. Back in their cell, Bob stands up to Ged but is wary when he agrees not to go near Brenda again. Later, Harriet is shocked when Bob rings her and says that she has to change her statement about Ged because Ged will hurt Brenda if she doesn't. Harriet tells Bob to lie to Ged that she'll do what he wants, hopeful that Bob will be released before Ged goes to trial.

Elsewhere, Sam realises that Megan is still pregnant and invites her to live with him. She is grateful for his support, but Jai evicts Sam from his house when he learns about the arrangement. Later, Megan tells Priya and Rishi about Jai's latest bad behaviour. Rishi warns Jai that business is bad at the factory thanks to the gossip about him and unless they recover the orders he lost, they won't be able to pay the staff. Rishi says that he'll only help Jai with the business if he lets Megan stay rent-free with Sam.

Also today, Doug watches Val's DVD as he helps with funeral arrangements, but is left unimpressed when Val has given Diane some advice. Later in the pub, Doug shows Laurel the comedy tie he has bought for the funeral, anxious to prove that Val was wrong about him!

Finally, Jai looks for Rachel but Lisa and Zak refuse to help him, Emma is overwhelmed when James suggests they tell people they're back together, while Alicia tells Jacob they can't go to Portugal at the moment.


Airs Friday, Aug 28 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Jai tries desperately to sell the cocaine but it's to no avail. At the same time, a frustrated Kirin is trying to get money for his cordial packaging but Rishi can't help him.

Jai sees Kirin's predicament and gets an idea. He tries to get Kirin to shift the drugs and even tells him about Rakesh's history with cocaine to convince him. Will Kirin agree to risk everything? Later, Rakesh is furious to learn that Jai told Kirin about his past with drugs.

Meanwhile, Harriet admits that she doesn't have any leads on Carly, with Bob's sentencing due to take place next week.

Elsewhere, Eric's resentment for Diane grows.

[Serena Williams]

Michael Parr is bluffing everyone his character Ross Barton is not dead. Ross will be back.

[Telly Watcher]

Airs Tuesday, Aug 25 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV
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Pete shows James where he left Ross's body

Yes, these detailed spoilers posted early this morning show that James and Pete go to the woods. It isn't clear from the text or photo that they find a body or empty ditch but Ross isn't mentioned in the spoilers for August 26th-28th and we know from Sunday World magazine that Mike Parr has been filming at the Emmerdale village up to last week at least. As it is unlikely that James and Pete would find Ross alive but injured in the ditch, it must be an empty ditch and Ross will have walked away/been rescued (seems he didn't have a mobile phone though) by a dog-walker or someone, and Ross will reappear in Emmerdale in due course. I wonder how the relationship beween Pete and Ross is played out. Ross really seems to have nine lives of a cat. First off, his mother Emma tries to kill him when he was a 2yo boy, and now his own brother Pete 'accidentally' nearly kills him in an angry fight over Debbie. It's true that love and sex are very powerful emotions though and can make someone capable of doing just about anything if the circumstances include being in the wrong place at the wrong time. In Pete's case, sexual love has beaten brotherly love.

I'm a bit worried that history might repeat itself in due course and that Emma might somehow kill Moses (or attempt to), either by poisoning or violence. I don't remember the reason or exact circumstances of the way in which Emma tried to kill Ross when he was a 2yo boy, but maybe it was a conflict between James and another woman who drove her to it, or a mother's instinct that Ross was obviously a bad 2yo destined to become an older bad boy that she attempted to kill him back then? Maybe the storywriters will tell us more/remind us about Emma's history in due course and we'll get to know what was happening in her life back then when Ross was very young? Pete has never forgotten/forgiven Emma for trying to kill Ross. How ironic that it turned out to be him who seems to also have nearly done the same thing nearly two weeks ago.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a625703/emmerdale-spoiler-video-emma-barton-faces-rosss-fury.html

I'm also wondering who the body in the mortuary is and where it was found? The spoiler says it is just some random who was around the village who seems to have had an accidental/dodgy end.

Cheetah wrote on 15-08-15 on the Emmerdale Spoilers 17th-21st August thread
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I think Ross is still alive - he's got a lot more trouble to stir up - I think the body may be the guy Harriet said she saw watching her. I think she said it was someone from her police time that she had to give evidence against. It could be someone from the fair.
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So we'll have to see what the spoilers say this week or when the episode about it gets shown on Tuesday 25th.

[Telly Watcher]

it must be an empty ditch and Ross will have walked away/been rescued (seems he didn't have a mobile phone though) by a dog-walker or someone

The video preview spoiler on itv.com for Wednesday 19th shows Emma finding Ross' mobile phone in one of Ross' bedroom storage containers. Finn then tells her it's Ross' old pay-as-you-go phone with Donna's old stuff on it. So Ross presumably had a new phone with him when Pete dumped Ross in the woods. I guess that the phone would show Ross on a map using GPS where he was and then he was either able to walk out of the woods by himself or to phone a friend to come and collect him from the woods and get treatment for his injuries in someone's home/hospital somewhere. Alternatively, maybe a dog-walker found Ross (dog smelled Ross and brought the dog-walker to the body) and took him away by helping him walk to his car nearby.

Source: http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/previews/video-preview-wed-19-aug-7pm

[tammyy2j]

The video preview spoiler on itv.com for Wednesday 19th shows Emma finding Ross' mobile phone in one of Ross' bedroom storage containers. Finn then tells her it's Ross' old pay-as-you-go phone with Donna's old stuff on it. So Ross presumably had a new phone with him when Pete dumped Ross in the woods. I guess that the phone would show Ross on a map using GPS where he was and then he was either able to walk out of the woods by himself or to phone a friend to come and collect him from the woods and get treatment for his injuries in someone's home/hospital somewhere. Alternatively, maybe a dog-walker found Ross (dog smelled Ross and brought the dog-walker to the body) and took him away by helping him walk to his car nearby.

Source: http://www.itv.com/emmerdale/previews/video-preview-wed-19-aug-7pm

Cain took Ross unconscious from his house without any phone and I assume he had no phone at the hospital going straight from village to there

[Debzyg]

I don't remember the reason or exact circumstances of the way in which Emma tried to kill Ross when he was a 2yo boy, but maybe it was a conflict between James and another woman who drove her to it, or a mother's instinct that Ross was obviously a bad 2yo destined to become an older bad boy that she attempted to kill him back then? Maybe the storywriters will tell us more/remind us about Emma's history in due course and we'll get to know what was happening in her life back then when Ross was very young? Pete has never forgotten/forgiven Emma for trying to kill Ross. How ironic that it turned out to be him who seems to also have nearly done the same thing nearly two weeks ago..

If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

[kennedyfan86]

If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

Yes she did. Looking after 3 young children with little support from James got too much for her and she snapped the night she left the family home

[kennedyfan86]

If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

Yes she did. Looking after 3 young children with little support from James got too much for her and she snapped the night she left the family home

[Telly Watcher]

If I remember correctly Emma said she was suffering from post natal depression and when Ross was crying she couldn't take it and tried to smother him with a pillow?

Yes, you're right about the post natal depression, I checked the internet and found two interviews involving this and Emma.

Daily Express published on Wednesday, April 22 2015:
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It was revealed last night that the actress' character Emma Barton had previously tried to kill her son, bad boy Ross (Michael Parr), when he was a toddler.

Speaking on Good Morning Britain today, the 42-year-old discussed what makes the troubled mother-of-three tick as well as the fun she is having in her latest role.

When asked about Tuesday's episode, which saw her big secret exposed, the soap star said: "It's something we talk about as a family within Emmerdale, but in the village she functions as a normal woman. Nobody knew until last night that she could be capable of that.

"We think it was at a time when Emma - I had to patch something together and think what would cause you to do something like that to your own baby - had post-natal depression."
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Source: http://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/572082/Emmerdale-Gillian-Kearney-Emma-Barton-family-life

Also Liverpool Echo published an earlier more general interview about playing Emma on December 30 2014:
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As mum to four-year-old son John did you struggle to play an estranged mother?

“You kind of think how do people do it? You can’t envisage leaving one behind never mind three, but she’s a more fragile person. When I was trying to find out what would motivate her to do that, it’s someone who isn’t very strong and someone who hasn’t got very much self belief. That’s what I have tried to depict. It’s not that she’s an evil person who just doesn’t bond with her sons, she loves them very much, but everyone overwhelms her to the point where she loses sight of reality. I think it’s definitely post natal depression she’s had.

“I love playing a mum, especially a mum of boys. I have three brothers as well so having the three sons is very familiar to me.”
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Source: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/showbiz-news/liverpool-actress-gillian-kearney-making-8363712

[Telly Watcher]

Cain took Ross unconscious from his house without any phone and I assume he had no phone at the hospital going straight from village to there

Yes, there wasn't any sign of a phone during the Ross scene in the house. He did already have his outdoor clothes on there though and I suppose it's possible that he had a phone in a trouser pocket or jacket pocket, although maybe Cain thought of this and took any mobile phone off unconscious Ross so as to prevent him contacting anyone at the wedding ceremony. If Ross did have a mobile phone on him when he was in the back of the van, then I've now realised that when Ross jumped into the water in the quarry and remained semi-submerged at the quarryside for what seemed like ages, any mobile phone he did have on him would be unlikely to work again, as all of the mobile phones I've known of to fall into water have never worked again or been repairable. When Ross ran back to the village and saw Debbie being carried into the car to be taken to hospital, it is not shown how Ross gets to the hospital. I suppose he might have gone into his house, got his new mobile phone (if he could find where he'd left it there/Cain had left it) and driven to the hospital in his car. So maybe he did have a working mobile phone when Pete dumped him in the woods?

The other thing is that Pete seemed to walk quite a distance with Ross on his shoulders away from the car to the dumping ground. Maybe this was too far off the beaten track for a dog-walker to find Ross and maybe Ross did instead regain consciousness and walk away by himself? We'll see in the Emmerdale episode on Tuesday 25th if the ditch is empty or not, but Ross may just remain missing and how he came to leave the woods might never be explained in detail, even when (I hope) he suddenly returns to Emmerdale some day.

[Telly Watcher]

Cain took Ross unconscious from his house without any phone and I assume he had no phone at the hospital going straight from village to there


When Ross ran back to the village and saw Debbie being carried into the car to be taken to hospital, it is not shown how Ross gets to the hospital. I suppose he might have gone into his house, got his new mobile phone (if he could find where he'd left it there/Cain had left it) and driven to the hospital in his car. So maybe he did have a working mobile phone when Pete dumped him in the woods?

I wondered about the distance from Emmerdale to Hotten General Hospital. Emmerdale used to be filmed on location in Esholt, with Hotten scenes being filmed in Otley, about 6 miles away by road. From 1989, the scenes for Hotten were filmed in Farsley, about 5.5 miles from Esholt. Since 1997, Emmerdale has been filmed on a set built around the former Stub House farm near Harewood, about 8 miles from Otley and 11 miles from Farsley (mileage calculator from aa.co.uk).

However, the emmerdale.me.uk website has a photo of the sign-post outside the vets' house which shows that it is 7.5 miles from Emmerdale to Hotten.

7.5 miles could be run by a fit lad like Ross in about an hour, so maybe this is how he got to the hospital. In his hurry, he might not have gone into his house and recovered his new phone, if this was where it had been left, so he might not have had a working phone on his body when he was left in the woods by Pete.

Road sign-post photo at: http://www.emmerdale.me.uk/IMG/emm-vets.jpg

Annotated Emmerdale Village aerial map at: http://www.emmerdale.me.uk/IMG/emmerdale-earth2-overlay.jpg

Info Source: http://www.emmerdale.me.uk/emmerdale.htm

(You'll need to click on the green "MORE" tabs to see the extra photos on the website)

Emmerdale Village labelled street map at : http://emmerdale.net/map/mapin.jpg

[lansineva]

It's been said on several occasions that Michael Parr has been seen at the studios. Seen by who?

[Telly Watcher]

It's been said on several occasions that Michael Parr has been seen at the studios. Seen by who?

Round-up of posts about references to Mike Parr seen on Emmerdale set recently.

kennedyfan86 wrote on 11-08-15 on Emmerdale Spoilers 17th - 21st August thread:
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Mike Parr gave us a hint anyway saying he was like Jesus at his last supper with cast, Jesus rose again, and Ross has a son called Moses, lol
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dalesfan wrote on 12-08-15 on Major Emmerdale spoiler thread:
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I so hope this is true! Ross needs to be alive. Nothing against you OP but it's hard to believe things on internet.

There is a lot of speculation going around. And I'm leaning more to him being alive. Maybe about 60/40 lol. Michael Parr was seen quite a few times at the studios over the last few weeks. After they wrapped on SummerFate
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dalesfan wrote on 14-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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Michael Parr signed a new 1 year contract last year. Reportedly August. So yes it would be up now. And Seeing as he has left the show now the timing does sound about right. They wrapped the Summer Fate stuff early July. This would mean he still had a few weeks left in his contract? Now I'm not really sure how it all works. BUT he was still seen at the studios in these last few weeks. This is why people still think it doesn't add up. If they have Killed Ross then he wouldn't be needed at the studios as there would be nothing for him to film. Unless he isn't really dead comes back or is found. Has some pretty nasty injuries and then leaves the show.
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shaine1811 wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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I think your right bout him taking a break but I'm veering towards him being alive as there was an article in yesterday's Sunday World magazine where Charley Webb is showing the Irish press around 8 weeks after the crash took place and she introduces the Irish press to Michael and Anthony and the article goes onto say that they 'are busy boys on set these days as the fall out after the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross'
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dalesfan wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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There is scans of it on twitter. Just had a look and it does sound like they were all on set and they do talk about it being 8 weeks ago
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dalesfan wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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Let me go and see if I can find it again. It was one of the Michael Parr Fan pages on twitter.

Edit - https://twitter.com/sher222_sher/status/632974322332774400
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Telly Watcher wrote on 17-08-15 on Ross Barton (Mike Parr) thread:
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It took me a while to read the article, I had to find a magnifying glass and type bits of the text out. But you're right, it does mention what you wrote. It looks like a really great spoiler.

Sunday World, August 16th 2015, published:
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Charley had SIX wedding dresses made for the disaster scene, and did all the stunts herself.

"The bit where you saw everything collapse - that was us [the actors]. We did all that ourselves," she says proudly. "We were absolutely covered in dust for days. But there was never anywhere where we didn't feel safe. We never felt in jeopardy while filming. So, because of that, we had a lot of fun doing it.

"That was filmed about eight weeks ago and Debbie was in a coma. But as viewers would have seen a couple of nights ago, she's back - fighting fit," says Charley with a massive grin.

... etc

Michael and Anthony are busy boys on-set these days after the fall-out from the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross. "Two brothers, one woman...it's big", smiles Michael.

After Pete beat Ross up and shoved him over a cliff, his mother Emma becomes worried about his disappearance. Cain Dingle then becomes a suspect when it's learned he left Ross locked in a van on the side of a cliff, while Pete soon freaks out when the police find a body.

... etc
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'Michael and Anthony are busy boys on-set these days after the fall-out from the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross'

Sounds like Ross is alive and kicking after all. The Summer Fate scenes would have been filmed around June, so for Pete and Ross to be filming on-set last week shows the storyline carries on between them and that Ross survives somehow. I think he must have regained consciousness and walked out of the wood himself/more likely got rescued by a dog-walker or something, maybe suffered amnesia and spent some days/weeks in hospital. Why weren't the police informed about this incident, I wonder? Time will tell.
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[Dalesfan]

It's been said on several occasions that Michael Parr has been seen at the studios. Seen by who?

Fans who visit the studios. One fan had a picture with him on on July 22nd. Someone that was involved in something at the studios/itv seen Ross on August 6th. ?It's kinda hard to hide stuff like that if people are actually seeing him there and they meet him or a quick search on twitter will have stuff come up. Mike himself even posted an instagram vid of him trying to scare Adam Thomas again and I'm sure that was after they filmed the disaster stuff

Probably not at studios but I was just having a look at Mike's twitter and a few people he follows. A critical care nurse who tweeted him on July 29th https://twitter.com/Skinsey00/status/626481038953459712 interesting tweet

[mariba]

Yeah, too many people working in that team or visiting studios..and with twitter and rest social media..stuff always leak out somehow..
I knew he wouldn't be dead/gone for good, he's far too popular character for the show..drama continues..

[mariba]

Yeah, too many people working in that team or visiting studios..and with twitter and rest social media..stuff always leak out somehow..
I knew he wouldn't be dead/gone for good, he's far too popular character for the show..drama continues..

[Telly Watcher]

Fans who visit the studios. One fan had a picture with him on on July 22nd. Someone that was involved in something at the studios/itv seen Ross on August 6th. ?It's kinda hard to hide stuff like that if people are actually seeing him there and they meet him or a quick search on twitter will have stuff come up. Mike himself even posted an instagram vid of him trying to scare Adam Thomas again and I'm sure that was after they filmed the disaster stuff

Probably not at studios but I was just having a look at Mike's twitter and a few people he follows. A critical care nurse who tweeted him on July 29th https://twitter.com/Skinsey00/status/626481038953459712 interesting tweet

Her twitter summary is "Critical Care Nurse whose feet are throbbing at the end of day. Wanders onto Corrie & Emmerdale occasionally, is a blood letter & always smells of horse crap..".

She could have just treated Mike Parr in hospital on July 29th for an injury unrelated to Emmerdale.

Or it could be that Mike Parr got injured whilst acting on-set on Wednesday 29th July and she treated him there/in hospital for this. If so, the acted scene wouldn't usually appear on TV for 6/7 weeks, roughly around September 9th - 16th 2015, unless it was a late rush over something to do for Summer Fate week during August 3rd - 7th (Ross 'died' on August 6th).

Mike Parr's claim about having a new job in London was on Twitter on August 14th.

[Telly Watcher]

Airs Monday, Aug 24 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Pete panics as James and Emma set off to identify Ross's body. He tells Finn that he should prepare himself for the worst. James and Emma try to phone Pete after seeing the body but he doesn't answer his phone.

Pete is crippled with fear as he expects the police to come calling at any moment. This drives him to make a confession as he tells Debbie that he killed Ross.

...etc

Airs Tuesday, Aug 25 2015 at 19:00 BST on ITV

Hour-long episode

Debbie is shocked by Pete's confession, while he is floored to learn that the body in the morgue is not Ross but a complete stranger.

...etc

The body in the mortuary could be the person who was reported on the TV News programme (seen in the pub with Eric, Rodney and Doug) as having fallen from the cliff edge on the same day as the helicopter crash. It's not mentioned where the cliff edge was but maybe it was someone near the van at the quarry where Ross was taken by Cain?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLlic9-WEAANHXZ.jpg
Emmerdale TV News screenshot after helicopter crash

[Telly Watcher]

It's not mentioned where the cliff edge was but maybe it was someone near the van at the quarry where Ross was taken by Cain?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLlic9-WEAANHXZ.jpg
Emmerdale TV News screenshot after helicopter crash

Having thought more about this, it sounds like someone near the quarry on August 4th saw Ross falling from the cliff into the water and reported it to the police, that's why the TV news mentions it. 'Emergency Services At Scene of Both...(incidents?). Maybe a body was recovered near the quarry after a search was made and it was taken to the hospital mortuary? Of course, the body in the mortuary could have come from anywhere around Emmerdale but we know that Ross survived the quarry water and that he isn't this body in the mortuary.

[Telly Watcher]

In yesterday's episode (Wednesday August 19th), Emma is worried about Ross being missing for about two weeks now and is opening his letters which have arrived at the farm during this time.

James:
"You're wasting your time. The phone proves nothing, you'll laugh about this in a few months when he walks through that door, larger than life, twice as cocky."

Emma:
"There's something wrong, I know it."

James:
"Yeah, well he nearly broke me the last time and we ended up nearly losing the farm, remember? Don't fall for it, Emma. It's about time he realised it just isn't all about him."

Emma:
"His car's been impounded. Left at the station weeks ago."

James:
"So it's a rust bucket held together with string. He probably thought it was cheaper than scrapping it."

Emma:
"Why can't you see what's in front of you?"

James:
"You are making out like I don't know my own son."

Finn:
"Wherever he is, he's not taken his wallet."

Emma:
"All his credit cards, his driving licence. Cash."

Finn:
"How is he going to manage without them?"

Emma:
"He'd need money, wouldn't he? Wherever he was."

James:
"His current account's not been touched."

Emma:
""Since when?"

James:
"Since the day he went missing."

Emma:
"No money, no credit cards, no cash. Oh God! I told you I could feel it. There's no other explanation. He's dead!"

(End of episode)


Emma mentions that Ross' car has been impounded and "left at the station weeks ago". Presumably this was at a railway station near to Hotten General Hospital?

I suppose he could have left it there when it broke down during the day(s) before the helicopter crash (August 4th)?

Or, during the day(s) after dumping Ross' body in the woods, maybe Pete drove Ross' car from the farm to the railway station and left it there (to make it look like Ross had run off for a time) before Pete used a taxi to get back to Emmerdale?

I think that maybe the storyline could go like this. After Ross got out of the water at the quarry and ran to near the village, he watched Pete putting injured Debbie into Pete's car to take her to hospital in Hotten. Ross then went into his house, got his new mobile phone(?) and car keys and then drove to the hospital to see if Debbie was all right. He then had his fight with Pete and got dumped in the woods. After a while, Ross regained consciousness, left the woods, got to the hospital for treatment over a day or two, then drove his car from the hospital to the railway station and he left on a train to remain missing for some time by staying at a friend's house away from Emmerdale. He has so far managed without having his usual credit cards and money but, as a bad boy, I'm sure he would be able to get whatever he needed in some dodgy way or another. Eventually, he shows up at Emmerdale, but he may do this secretly to see just one or two people as he might be scared of what Pete could do if he meets him again.

Just some ideas.

As an aside, here's a great labelled map showing Emmerdale Village with the locations of where characters live/lived.
(Looks like it was made before 2013).

Map at: http://i.imgur.com/xIEoC.png

[Tuareet]

Pete wasn't in the house with them, it was James his father!

[Telly Watcher]

Pete wasn't in the house with them, it was James his father!

Oops, was half awake. Script between Emma and James now corrected in original post.

[mariba]

Yeah-but surely if he got to hospital somehow, he would have been really bad way. They would have contacted the next of kin(we all have one in hospital records) or if he didn't know who he was himself due to head injury, they would have definitely contacted police. That's of course in real life..
I reckon he hasn't gone to hospital at all, not around there anyway. He has plenty of dodgy friends I'm sure who he could have rang for help.
We don't know how close to the hospital the railway station is? Maybe just next to it. He could have just parked it there out of view(because of Cain)when he went to see Debbie.
UNLESS-Pete used Ross's car to move the 'body' and then abandoned it at the railway station??

[Telly Watcher]

Yeah-but surely if he got to hospital somehow, he would have been really bad way. They would have contacted the next of kin(we all have one in hospital records) or if he didn't know who he was himself due to head injury, they would have definitely contacted police. That's of course in real life..
I reckon he hasn't gone to hospital at all, not around there anyway. He has plenty of dodgy friends I'm sure who he could have rang for help.
We don't know how close to the hospital the railway station is? Maybe just next to it. He could have just parked it there out of view(because of Cain)when he went to see Debbie.

Yes, I'm happy with these suggestions, mariba. A fresh eye from someone else with a different perspective and the sharing of ideas is always helpful in these matters.

I did wonder about the location of the station and whether it was near the hospital or not. I also wondered about the hospital and if he got treated or not, but if he was then maybe he was lucid enough to say he fell down somehow and it was just an accident involving no-one else and not a police matter as far as hospital staff were concerned? I think it is possible to not have to give details of any next-of-kin to be contacted if showing up as an adult at A&E for treatment after a personal accident. I also couldn't think of how he could be able to get on a train (where a guard would have been there to check tickets, etc) whilst covered in blood and looking really bad unless he had somehow been cleaned up first and had his wounds dealt with. Him staying with a friend in Hotten or anywhere else near the woods would also work. Of course, we might all be shocked on Tuesday August 25th if his dead body gets found in the woods by Pete and James, but I for one at least hope that this doesn't happen and am encouraged by the spoiler hints and suggestions given for now from several sources that Mike Parr has, until very recently at least, been seen to be working hard on the Emmerdale set around Leeds and so somehow must have survived the dumping in the woods by Pete.

What really happened to Ross after he was dumped in the woods by Pete might never be shown in a TV episode. After all, it wasn't shown on TV what happened during the time between when he ran to the village from the quarry and then appeared at the hospital later. I suspect that all we might see at some time in the future is when he re-appears (I hope) in Emmerdale later, unless Emmerdale shows a flashback sequence (unlikely, I reckon, it doesn't seem to be that kind of show, not being American and all that) or Ross gives clues away in his future spoken script. So we may only be left with our guesses and theories about the time-gap.

I am still waiting in the hope that Mike Parr will give an unambiguous statement about the Ross character. His Twitter posts remain ambiguous and incomplete. I don't think he has lied to his fans but he has maybe remained silent about definite details and about giving definite statements. Actors by profession play fake characters and essentially lie to their viewers under the illusion of suspending belief for viewers in what they as actors are doing. This, of course, is what the viewers are paying for, to be entertained in a fantasy world outside reality and normal life.

Here are some Twitter posts Mike Parr has made about Ross since he got 'killed off' on August 6th.

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 6
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Cheerio Ross!!! You caused some trouble in that village lad!
>

>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Cheerio Ross!!! You caused some trouble in that village lad! But Ross is going to be back in a while to cause even more!)


Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 6
>
Michael Parr retweeted Duncan Foster

Giz a job. In all honesty I've never been prouder to be part of a piece drama. Thank you for your guidance x

Michael Parr added,
Duncan Foster @duncanfo
@MikeParrActor you were superb mike. Catch up soon. C
>

>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Giz a job. In all honesty I've never been prouder to be part of a piece drama. Thank you for your guidance x. But I'm laying low for a while but I'm still on Emmerdale soon in the future and need something in the meantime to tide me over.)


Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 7
>
I forgot how much auditions absolutely suck.
>

>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: I forgot how much auditions absolutely suck. But I like to see what else is around that might pay better and add kudos points to my CV. Whatever happens on this, Ross is coming back on Emmerdale in due course, as the pay, working conditions and banter between me and fellow actors are just awesome.)

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 14
>
Off to London now. Got a new job, can't say what it is but when we start rehearsals I'll let you know.
>

>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Off to London now. Got a new job, can't say what it is but when we start rehearsals I'll let you know. It's only a short fixed-term contract thing, maybe part-time for now, but I want to see what else is around that might pay better and improve my CV. Whatever happens on this, Ross is coming back to Emmerdale in due course.)

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 17
>
Michael Parr retweeted Loz Wuz

It's been overwhelming. Thank you so much to everyone who signed. Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates

Michael Parr added,
Loz Wuz @LauraWoollin
You must be pretty chuffed if you're an actor that leaves a show and people start a petition to get you back @MikeParrActor
>

>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: It's been overwhelming. Thank you so much to everyone who signed. But the petition wasn't necessary really. Looks like the people up North, especially around Yorkshire (where Emmerdale is filmed and I'm known really well) and Merseyside (where I come from, that's St Helens, mert) knew all along that I haven't left Emmerdale but to suggest this really helps to keep viewers glued to Emmerdale episodes on the TV and keeps viewer ratings high until I come back as Ross. Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates. But our professional relationship isn't over yet, she's a really great boss and I'll be seen in Emmerdale on TV in the not-too-distant future, you'll see later.)

Michael Parr ‏@MikeParrActor Aug 18
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Bailey....can't find you on here. Quinny finally gave me your presents. Thank you so so much, not necessary but I'extremely generous x
>

>>Telly Watcher: (This could mean: Bailey....can't find you on here. Quinny finally gave me your presents. Thank you so so much, not necessary but I'extremely generous x. I haven't left Emmerdale really, you've wasted your time and money getting me presents though as I'm back on Emmerdale on TV really soon, just you wait and see.)

Source: https://twitter.com/MikeParrActor/with_replies

Adlibs by Telly Watcher ;)

In all seriousness though, what I'd really like to read is something very definite about Ross on Emmerdale from Mike Parr, with no ambiguity at all.

For example, Twitter post "Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates."

Here are two possible instances for what this could really mean, if a definite unambiguous statement was made.

1)
Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates. I had a great time on Emmerdale from 2013-2015 but my Ross character was killed off, I am no longer one of the Emmerdale cast and I now have a full-time job in London which involves rehearsals until the show begins later this year. I am also playing the role of 'G' in the next instalments of the film 'Dark Ascension'.

or,

2)
Very proud to have worked with Kate Oates. I hope that I can give much more to Emmerdale, the future looks really exciting for Ross and the latest script is terrific. Anthony is such a great guy to work alongside and the rest of the Emmerdale cast are a great laugh and we have great banter between us, especially between me, Kelvin, Danny and Adam.

I suppose that time will tell what happens next.

[Dalesfan]

Didn't anyone else think that when they said his car was impounded weeks ago sounded like it was longer before the disaster?

Also what car did Pete actually use to take Ross' body to the woods? He was driven to the hospital so who's car was it?

http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale/episodes/you-re-no-longer-a-barton

"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body"

So this spoiler gives an even bigger indicator that his body isn't there in the woods.

I had the same thoughts as you mariba. If he was in a bad way in a hospital then if they couldn't identify him that the police would have been involved. But then who knows what with patient confidentiality and all that. Or he could have got to a hospital and then later discharged himself, that would be something I could see Ross doing. He had some pretty big bangs to the head so I would be surprised if there wasn't any damage. And if someone was helping him it would be pretty difficult for them to give him treatment. Maybe once there is a police report that he is actually missing his whereabouts might come to light. His phone would be no use as it was in water. assuming it was on him when he jumped. So unless he put it in rice it probably wont work :p

As for the tweets Telly Watcher since Ross has been gone. Not from him but according to a tweet someone seen him in Leeds yesterday so he must be going back and forth to London and Leeds. But that probably isn't a surprise seeing as he lives there and his (possible) girlfriend does too

[Telly Watcher]

Didn't anyone else think that when they said his car was impounded weeks ago sounded like it was longer before the disaster?

Also what car did Pete actually use to take Ross' body to the woods? He was driven to the hospital so who's car was it?

http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale/episodes/you-re-no-longer-a-barton

\\\\\"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body\\\\\"

So this spoiler gives an even bigger indicator that his body isn't there in the woods.

I had the same thoughts as you mariba. If he was in a bad way in a hospital then if they couldn't identify him that the police would have been involved. But then who knows what with patient confidentiality and all that. Or he could have got to a hospital and then later discharged himself, that would be something I could see Ross doing. He had some pretty big bangs to the head so I would be surprised if there wasn't any damage. And if someone was helping him it would be pretty difficult for them to give him treatment. Maybe once there is a police report that he is actually missing his whereabouts might come to light. His phone would be no use as it was in water. assuming it was on him when he jumped. So unless he put it in rice it probably wont work :p

As for the tweets Telly Watcher since Ross has been gone. Not from him but according to a tweet someone seen him in Leeds yesterday so he must be going back and forth to London and Leeds. But that probably isn't a surprise seeing as he lives there and his (possible) girlfriend does too

dalesfan wrote:
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Didn't anyone else think that when they said his car was impounded weeks ago sounded like it was longer before the disaster?
>

I thought this, but Emma was upset and maybe not thinking clearly. By then, Ross had been missing for 13 days, so almost 2 weeks.

dalesfan wrote:
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Also what car did Pete actually use to take Ross' body to the woods? He was driven to the hospital so who's car was it?
>

Many thanks for this question, I'm really glad you brought this up as it has brought a number of things to light for me this morning. I just fast-forwarded through the episode from Wednesday August 5th and played it at normal speed to watch Pete put injured Debbie into a large greyish 4-door hatch-back (possibly a VW) 4x4-type car with a nearly vertical flat hatch and outside handrails on top along the edges of the roof and registration number something like QW14 MHJ?. This had been driven by Rhona to outside The Woolpack (so Rhona's car?). It is unclear who drove to the hospital in this car, it could have Rhona driving with Pete in the passenger seat, or Pete driving? At this time, Ross was standing on the road at the top of the hill watching them. The car sped off in the other direction to hospital. After Ruby's death scene the action continues with Pete bursting into the hospital carrying Debbie in his arms and he lays her down into the A&E reception area. Then the camera pans to the entrance door and Ross is already standing there looking on and asks Pete "Is she dead". End of episode.

So Ross must have driven to the hospital in his own car. I can't remember off-hand what his usual car is, however, but I seem to vaguely remember from previous episodes at Debbie's garage it could be something dark and sporty?

In the second Thursday August 6th episode, Pete is in the woods with unconscious/'dead' Ross inside the boot of a dark (grey?) low-height 2-door(?) hatch-back VW car with a more sloping hatch and no handrails along the top, so Ross was definitely in the boot of a different car to the one that took Debbie and Pete to the hospital. I'm now thinking that Pete took Ross's body to the woods in Ross' own car?. This definitely needs more study. If this was indeed Ross's car, maybe Pete drove it from the woods and back to the station and abandoned it there, then got a taxi or walked to the hospital. If this happened, then Ross wouldn't know this and would still think it was at the hospital. He also wouldn't have the keys for it anyway so it would stay there waiting to be impounded for having no parking ticket. I think somewhere in someone's script it said Pete was missing from the hospital for about 2 hours. Cain's script? Maybe I could check when I've got more time.

dalesfan wrote:
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http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale/episodes/you-re-no-longer-a-barton

"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body"

So this spoiler gives an even bigger indicator that his body isn't there in the woods.
>

Yes, this really gives the game away. This scene with Pete, Emma and James is aired on Wednesday August 26th, in the episode after the Tuesday one where James and Pete go to the woods to look for Ross' body. So, there's no body found in the woods at the location where they look.

WhatsonTV wrote in latest web magazine accessed on August 21st:
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'You’re no longer a Barton'
7:00pm, Wednesday, 26 August 2015, ITV

"While Pete is trying to talk to Debbie, who wants nothing to do with him, James tells Emma what their son has just told him – that he killed Ross. With that, the mum is on a mission to find her son’s body. When Pete later dares to come home, he discovers he is no longer welcome."
>
Source: http://www.whatsontv.co.uk/emmerdale/episodes/you-re-no-longer-a-barton

dalesfan wrote:
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As for the tweets Telly Watcher since Ross has been gone. Not from him but according to a tweet someone seen him in Leeds yesterday so he must be going back and forth to London and Leeds. But that probably isn't a surprise seeing as he lives there and his (possible) girlfriend does too
>

Yes, I seem to remember reading somewhere on Twitter that Mike Parr walks through Leeds railway station avoiding fans by pretending to be on his mobile phone, wearing a hat pulled low down and staring at the floor ahead of him. I wouldn't want to drive from Leeds to London on a regular basis, and the train is how I'd go too.

I was reading just last night about the latest Strictly Come Dancing news for 2015. This programme starts to air on Saturday September 5th. New contestants are still being reported as joining the show for definite but Mike Parr is not mentioned as yet, even as a possible. There is a lot of secrecy about this show on this. Last year the show was made at the Elstree Studios in Borehamwood, Herts, and I think it's the same place for this year. Although Elstree is technically Hertfordshire, it's very near to the Outer Ring Road and I've always thought of it as being just like Outer London myself. The train journey from Leeds to Elstree & Borehamwood takes about 3 hours and involves going from Leeds to London King's Cross, walking across to London St Pancras International, then train to Elstree & Borehamwood. Elstree Studios has a terrific history for making blockbuster movies and TV shows (East Enders and Hollyoaks are made there at present) and would look good on any actor's CV. If Mike Parr is going to take part in Strictly, then joining about now for rehearsals would be about right for a new contestant. Last year's Strictly was on TV for 3 months from launch night on September 7th, with live TV shows up to nearly Christmas 2014. If this is Mike Parr's new job, then it will end around Christmas this year.

Read more about Elstree Studios at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elstree_Studios

[mariba]

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[mariba]

1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '

2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)

[Dalesfan]

dalesfan wrote:
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Many thanks for this question, I'm really glad you brought this up as it has brought a number of things to light for me this morning. I just fast-forwarded through the episode from Wednesday August 5th and played it at normal speed to watch Pete put injured Debbie into a large greyish 4-door hatch-back (possibly a VW) 4x4-type car with a nearly vertical flat hatch and outside handrails on top along the edges of the roof and registration number something like QW14 MHJ?. This had been driven by Rhona to outside The Woolpack (so Rhona's car?). It is unclear who drove to the hospital in this car, it could have Rhona driving with Pete in the passenger seat, or Pete driving? At this time, Ross was standing on the road at the top of the hill watching them. The car sped off in the other direction to hospital. After Ruby's death scene the action continues with Pete bursting into the hospital carrying Debbie in his arms and he lays her down into the A&E reception area. Then the camera pans to the entrance door and Ross is already standing there looking on and asks Pete \\"Is she dead\\". End of episode.

So Ross must have driven to the hospital in his own car. I can't remember off-hand what his usual car is, however, but I seem to vaguely remember from previous episodes at Debbie's garage it could be something dark and sporty?

In the second Thursday August 6th episode, Pete is in the woods with unconscious/'dead' Ross inside the boot of a dark (grey?) low-height 2-door(?) hatch-back VW car with a more sloping hatch and no handrails along the top, so Ross was definitely in the boot of a different car to the one that took Debbie and Pete to the hospital. I'm now thinking that Pete took Ross's body to the woods in Ross' own car?. This definitely needs more study. If this was indeed Ross's car, maybe Pete drove it from the woods and back to the station and abandoned it there, then got a taxi or walked to the hospital. If this happened, then Ross wouldn't know this and would still think it was at the hospital. He also wouldn't have the keys for it anyway so it would stay there waiting to be impounded for having no parking ticket. I think somewhere in someone's script it said Pete was missing from the hospital for about 2 hours. Cain's script? Maybe I could check when I've got more time.

Just had a look and on the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k75jA0UREw&index=57&list=PLHMSUWxt2GlaJtSOUx0Bzw8ceI_maViLB Ross is driving a silver car and Debbie is driving a darker blue car. Ross has had quite a few cars though. He used to drive a black sporty car but seem to remember him selling it after that fighting stuff. Not sure the one above is his most recent car or not



1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '

2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)

I think she just assumes the worst. Pete has told them he killed him so they probably aren't expecting him to be alive because he hasn't been in touch and nobody has seen him. But then it might give them a little hope that his body isn't where Pete left it. But the longer the time has gone on especially with a head injury, it wouldn't look good.

I really can't see them moving the body. I know James has always seen Pete as golden boy but even that would be too much for him to help get rid of his son.

[Telly Watcher]

1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '

2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)



I think she just assumes the worst. Pete has told them he killed him so they probably aren't expecting him to be alive because he hasn't been in touch and nobody has seen him. But then it might give them a little hope that his body isn't where Pete left it. But the longer the time has gone on especially with a head injury, it wouldn't look good.

I really can't see them moving the body. I know James has always seen Pete as golden boy but even that would be too much for him to help get rid of his son.

mariba wrote:
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1. There isn't any body in the woods and Ross is alive. (most likely and wished scenario) But why would Emma say that she wants to find Ross's body if the body isn't where it was left? Surely first hope as a mother would be ' oh my son is alive! '
>

Emma is told by James in the Wednesday August 26th episode about what happened between Pete and Ross and how Pete said he'd killed Ross. She's upset and probably totally believes Pete when he claimed to have killed Ross. I think that Pete was absolutely convinced in his own mind that Ross was dead after the fight at the hospital. This was where he last seemed to check if Ross was dead or not (by feeling for a pulse on his jugular neck artery) although, in his shock and panic, he might not have checked this properly and missed this and other vital signs indicating life. Ross also didn't seem to regain consciousness by the time quite a while later when Pete left him in the woods, although by then Ross could have been conscious but playing dead and waiting for Pete to leave the woods before making any moves, as Ross might have thought that, if Pete knew he was still alive when he was being dumped in the woods, then Pete would maybe want to finish the job off properly and attack Ross further to make sure that Ross was really dead before leaving him. Ross hasn't been seen by anyone since Pete left him in the woods on August 6th (in scenes which were likely filmed by June/July).

mariba wrote:
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2. Pete and James find Ross's body but James helps Pete to get rid of it.(this would drag on for months before-if ever- the truth would come out.)
>

This is a possible storyline too. I wonder if James would do this, seeing as he would now have lost one son forever and wouldn't also want to lose his eldest son (golden boy Pete who saved his life in January 2015) by him being jailed. Although Pete could possibly claim self-defence and accidental death perhaps, there would still be police charges to face of hiding the body, preventing lawul burial and obstruction of justice, etc, probably warranting a custodial sentence? James does seem to be a decent and honest hard-working man though and I think it unlikely that he would think of doing anything involving illegal disposal of Ross' body.

We believe from news spoilers and fan tweets to date that Mike Parr has been acting on the Emmerdale set up until at least August 10th-14th 2015, so there must be a continuing storyline for Ross beyond him being dumped in the woods if these spoilers and fan tweets are true and being interpreted correctly by us. If so, the continuing storyline for Ross would involve him disappearing for a while and then returning some time later.

dalesfan wrote:
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I think she just assumes the worst. Pete has told them he killed him so they probably aren't expecting him to be alive because he hasn't been in touch and nobody has seen him. But then it might give them a little hope that his body isn't where Pete left it. But the longer the time has gone on especially with a head injury, it wouldn't look good.

I really can't see them moving the body. I know James has always seen Pete as golden boy but even that would be too much for him to help get rid of his son.
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Thanks, dalesfan, you posted this just as I was finishing off my reply to mariba but we share the same ideas about Emma assuming Pete's belief in him killing Ross, and doubts about James disposing of the body.

[mariba]

Yes - it was hard enough to watch it once Cameron digging out Alex's body- don't want to see it again.

And yes-I haven't lost my faith that Ross is alive yet. ;)

[mariba]

Yes - it was hard enough to watch it once Cameron digging out Alex's body- don't want to see it again.

And yes-I haven't lost my faith that Ross is alive yet. ;)

[Debzyg]

Maybe it's like the film Misery where some weirdo has found him and taken him back to their house in the woods to nurse him back to health:D

[maidmarian]

dupl

[maidmarian]

Maybe it's like the film Misery where some weirdo has found him and taken him back to their house in the woods to nurse him back to health:D

I dont know if that will happen but at least
its a new train of thought on the matter!
thankyou

[kennedyfan86]

I can't get over how much of a fool Pete would look if Ross reappeared out of the blue saying "hey bro, not dead, but you'll wish you were soon enough", he's going around like a hen on one leg saying "i've killed Ross". Pete just seems too dim to me to know someone's truly dead.
I am dying to know how they're writing Charley Webb out on maternity, i like to think it involves Ross, but then she'll be out for 6 months-a year, so it'll need to be something that would keep Debbie out of the village that length of time

[kennedyfan86]

I can't get over how much of a fool Pete would look if Ross reappeared out of the blue saying "hey bro, not dead, but you'll wish you were soon enough", he's going around like a hen on one leg saying "i've killed Ross". Pete just seems too dim to me to know someone's truly dead.
I am dying to know how they're writing Charley Webb out on maternity, i like to think it involves Ross, but then she'll be out for 6 months-a year, so it'll need to be something that would keep Debbie out of the village that length of time

[mariba]

I think if Ross is alive somehow-which I hope he is-he can't possibly be in very good condition..He will most likely be found in some hospital anyway, at least he should-it was an awful injury on his head.

[Telly Watcher]

dalesfan wrote:
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Also what car did Pete actually use to take Ross' body to the woods? He was driven to the hospital so who's car was it?
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Many thanks for this question, I'm really glad you brought this up as it has brought a number of things to light for me this morning. I just fast-forwarded through the episode from Wednesday August 5th and played it at normal speed to watch Pete put injured Debbie into a large greyish 4-door hatch-back (possibly a VW) 4x4-type car with a nearly vertical flat hatch and outside handrails on top along the edges of the roof and registration number something like QW14 MHJ?. This had been driven by Rhona to outside The Woolpack (so Rhona's car?). It is unclear who drove to the hospital in this car, it could have Rhona driving with Pete in the passenger seat, or Pete driving? At this time, Ross was standing on the road at the top of the hill watching them. The car sped off in the other direction to hospital. After Ruby's death scene the action continues with Pete bursting into the hospital carrying Debbie in his arms and he lays her down into the A&E reception area. Then the camera pans to the entrance door and Ross is already standing there looking on and asks Pete \\\\\\\\\"Is she dead\\\\\\\\\". End of episode.

So Ross must have driven to the hospital in his own car. I can't remember off-hand what his usual car is, however, but I seem to vaguely remember from previous episodes at Debbie's garage it could be something dark and sporty?

In the second Thursday August 6th episode, Pete is in the woods with unconscious/'dead' Ross inside the boot of a dark (grey?) low-height 2-door(?) hatch-back VW car with a more sloping hatch and no handrails along the top, so Ross was definitely in the boot of a different car to the one that took Debbie and Pete to the hospital. I'm now thinking that Pete took Ross's body to the woods in Ross' own car?. This definitely needs more study. If this was indeed Ross's car, maybe Pete drove it from the woods and back to the station and abandoned it there, then got a taxi or walked to the hospital. If this happened, then Ross wouldn't know this and would still think it was at the hospital. He also wouldn't have the keys for it anyway so it would stay there waiting to be impounded for having no parking ticket. I think somewhere in someone's script it said Pete was missing from the hospital for about 2 hours. Cain's script? Maybe I could check when I've got more time.

Here are some photos from the episodes shown on August 5th-6th.

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Pete placing injured Debbie inside large car outside Woolpack

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As the large car drives away, Pete is nowhere to be seen. Also note low dark sporty car on left of photo.

The photo shows the low sporty dark VW car in the front of the line of 3 parked cars. This was just down the hill from where Ross was standing, and would take him around 10 seconds to run to. After Pete places Debbie in the car, it is unclear what he does next. The large car drives off forwards, Cain runs off to the right to go and look for Kyle in the village hall, and there is no-one else to be seen around the parked cars, not even inside the low black sporty car. So it looks as Pete has gone to the hospital with Debbie in the large car, and he is either in the passenger seat wth Rhona driving or Pete is driving. At the hospital, Pete carries Debbie into A&E, so this implies that he was in the same car as her to get to the hospital, just as you would expect him to do. This means that Ross must have driven the sporty dark car towards the hospital. He must have parked at the hospital, this would get him into A&E asap, and would mean that when Pete had 'killed' Ross, he could take Ross' car keys out of Ross' pocket, go and get the car and bring it around to put Ross in the boot.

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Pete driving sporty car along woodland road

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Pete stops the sporty car with Ross in the boot in the woodland

When Pete opens the boot of the sporty car, a close-up shot of Ross inside it shows that the car paint colour is graphite grey, although the car seems to be black from a distance.

Ross' car is impounded at the station car park in due course (within 1-2 days?). Whether this is a red herring or not and is a different car we may not find out. But if the impounded car is the dark sporty one, then Pete must have left it at the station himself and got back to the hospital by walking or using a taxi, as Ross wouldn't know where it was by then and wouldn't have the keys for it as Pete presumably would have left the car locked and put the keys in a bin?


Just had a look and on the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k75jA0UREw&index=57&list=PLHMSUWxt2GlaJtSOUx0Bzw8ceI_maViLB Ross is driving a silver car and Debbie is driving a darker blue car. Ross has had quite a few cars though. He used to drive a black sporty car but seem to remember him selling it after that fighting stuff. Not sure the one above is his most recent car or not

OK, here's a photo of Debbie's and Ross' cars in the linked video from the July 13th episode.

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Photo of Debbie's and Ross' cars in July 13th episode

These cars are obviously different to the dark sporty car seen in the Thursday August 6th 8pm episode. Maybe the silver car Ross is driving on July 13th is one being repaired at Debbie's garage, or maybe it was his own but he replaced it during the 3 weeks to August 6th with the dark sporty one? There are a couple of sources for Ross to get money during the 3 weeks here. First off, he used Carly to steal Jimmy's van on July 13th, before selling the van in a dodgy deal outside Emmerdale and then giving Carly cash (to help buy Bob's cafe) and Charlie cash (to pay off his debts to him) and he may have had some cash left over for himself? Second off, Ross mugged Robert in his car at the roadworks traffic lights in the July 29th episode and got his man-bag containing the laptop and memory stick with the photos on it for Chrissie (and for Moira too eventually over his deal with Charity about splitting up Moira and Cain) and presumably his wallet/money/etc inside? So, Ross could have used any spare cash from these or any other dodgy deals like this to buy a dark sporty car before we see it parked in the village on August 5th.

I don't know what car Pete drives but I expect it's something boring and ordinary, and think that the dark sporty car would most likely be too fast, flash and expensive for Pete but would suitable for someone daring with dodgy money like Ross.

[Telly Watcher]

I was looking at parts of the Wednesday 5th episode earlier and spotted something very interesting.

After the helicopter has crashed into the village hall, Joanie is laying on the grass outside under a tree by the merry-go-round. Aaron is there looking at her, trying to find a pulse in neck. He then shouts to Emma who is nearby.

Aaron:
"Emma, I can't find a pulse."

Emma comes across and kneels down.

Emma:
"Joanie, Joanie." (Feels neck with fingers, listens and feels for breath coming from Joanie's nose)
"It's weak but it's there."

I suspect that this is a massive clue and a lead-up to what happens later at the hospital with Pete and Ross, as the suggestion is that Aaron couldn't find a weak pulse for Joanie in the village but a trained nurse like Emma could.

During the Thursday August 6th 7pm episode, Pete (who is a farmhand but not medically trained as far as I know) tries to feel for a neck pulse for Ross but couldn't find one. He didn't perform any other checks, however, and he was also likely to be angry, in shock, frightened and not thinking properly when he concluded that Ross was dead.

So the implication is that Ross could have had a weak pulse after the fight at the hospital but Pete wasn't able to find it and Ross was alive then.

[Dalesfan]

Thanks Telly watcher!

Yes it would be possible for Ross to take that car. But I don't think it is the one being impounded as they made an issue of telling us that it was basically being held together with a piece of string and would probably be cheaper to scrap it. That doesn't look like it if it was the blue one above as it looks in pretty good condition.

Yep and you're right I forgot about that but at the time I thought it was a massive clue showing us Aaron not being able to find a pulse. If it was weak then I think Pete would also struggle to find it especially when he is in such a state.

[sarah c]

Yes she did. Looking after 3 young children with little support from James got too much for her and she snapped the night she left the family home

but then the other evening she contradicted that when she handed Moses to Finn and said : 'your Dad was a dab hand with nappy....'

[kennedyfan86]

but then the other evening she contradicted that when she handed Moses to Finn and said : 'your Dad was a dab hand with nappy....'

I guess when he wasn't working or in the pub, he was a "dab hand with the nappy changing", it's easy to see how she could've snapped back then, she's fairly highly strung, I'm not surprised James wasn't around much, she wasn't even a good cook, so the sex would've been all he was going home for cause the sex is what he keeps going back for lol

[kennedyfan86]

but then the other evening she contradicted that when she handed Moses to Finn and said : 'your Dad was a dab hand with nappy....'

I guess when he wasn't working or in the pub, he was a "dab hand with the nappy changing", it's easy to see how she could've snapped back then, she's fairly highly strung, I'm not surprised James wasn't around much, she wasn't even a good cook, so the sex would've been all he was going home for cause the sex is what he keeps going back for lol

[Perdita]

Meanwhile, emotional new Emmerdale pictures show the moment that Rachel Breckle says her goodbyes to the village.

Rachel (Gemma Oaten) decides that it's time for a fresh start after finally being confronted over her mistreatment of Sam Dingle.

Things come to a head between the troubled couple when Ruby Haswell's heartbreaking funeral takes place in the village and Sam's phone goes off during the service.

Rachel is furious that Sam could be so careless and later unleashes her anger at him once again, but this time her horrified sister Ali Spencer (Kelli Hollis) sees everything.

Ali is quick to tackle Rachel over her bad behaviour and suggests that she should move to Liverpool with her, pointing out that the stresses of life in Emmerdale seem to have changed her for the worse.

Knowing that Ali is right, Rachel breaks up with Sam and agrees to go - marking the end of the Spencer clan's time in the village. Powerless to stop her from leaving, how will Jai Sharma react to Rachel's sudden exit?
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Everyone gathers for Rachel's farewell
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Everyone gathers for Rachel's farewell
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Rachel and Ali say goodbye
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Rachel and Ali say goodbye
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Jai is powerless to stop Rachel from leaving
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Jai is powerless to stop Rachel from leaving

Emmerdale airs these scenes on Wednesday, August 26 at 7pm on ITV.


Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3/coronation-street/news/a664601/soap-spoilers-coronation-street-attack-eastenders-discovery-emmerdale-exit-hollyoaks-proposal.html#ixzz3jbh12nLH

[Telly Watcher]

Here are the Sun's TV Soap magazine spoilers for Emmerdale for August 24th - 28th 2015

Sun TV Soap magazine published on August 23rd 2015:
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Monday August 24th 2015

Emma and James are asked to identify a body the police have discovered.

Tuesday August 25th 2015

The villagers bid farewell to Ruby, but Zak and Lisa are barred from the funeral. Elsewhere, Pete tells James that he killed Ross.

Wednesday August 26th 2015

Rachel leaves the village for Liverpool. Elsewhere, Pete is rejected by his family, Brenda smuggles a sim card into prison, and Emma and Finn search for Ross' body.

Thursday August 27th 2015

Sam realises Megan is pregnant, and offers his support. Elsewhere, Bob stands up to Ged, Doug tries to prove Val wrong, and Pete learns that Debbie is afraid of him.

Friday August 28th 2015

Jai tries to recruit Kirin to help him sell cocaine, Bob's sentencing looms with no news of Carly, and Pollard's resentment grows.
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The Wednesday episode summary says Emma and Finn search for Ross' body.

So James and Pete didn't find Ross' body in the woods on Tuesday August 25th when they went looking for it and so
Ross remains missing from at least Tuesday August 25th.

[mariba]

Already replied on 'Ross Barton' thread.

But again..why would only Emma and Finn continue looking for his body?? Surely James as well..?? Unless James helps Pete to bury it(awful situation for a father..), and they tell Emma and Finn that Pete can't remember where he dumped him. I hope I'm totally wrong and he's alive. As if it goes like I here suggested..I can say goodbye to Emmerdale. They would be dragging on that storyline for months-until it would all finally come out, and Pete and James(?) would be arrested etc etc. , Ross would be gone...and if Jimmy loses their family home+Nico is not back..there's absolutely nothing to watch..Just Jai with his dodgy dealings, same as baby face Rakesh..yawn..

[mariba]

Already replied on 'Ross Barton' thread.

But again..why would only Emma and Finn continue looking for his body?? Surely James as well..?? Unless James helps Pete to bury it(awful situation for a father..), and they tell Emma and Finn that Pete can't remember where he dumped him. I hope I'm totally wrong and he's alive. As if it goes like I here suggested..I can say goodbye to Emmerdale. They would be dragging on that storyline for months-until it would all finally come out, and Pete and James(?) would be arrested etc etc. , Ross would be gone...and if Jimmy loses their family home+Nico is not back..there's absolutely nothing to watch..Just Jai with his dodgy dealings, same as baby face Rakesh..yawn..

[Telly Watcher]

Thanks Telly watcher!

Yes it would be possible for Ross to take that car. But I don't think it is the one being impounded as they made an issue of telling us that it was basically being held together with a piece of string and would probably be cheaper to scrap it. That doesn't look like it if it was the blue one above as it looks in pretty good condition.

I think the silver car seen in the July 13th episode may have been a customer's one that Ross was repairing at the garage and he just used it to meet Debbie in the country lane, as it turns out the dark sporty car is Ross' car after all (it's actually graphite grey in colour) and has been since at least June 9th when Pete planted money in the back of it to set Ross up for stealing.

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Pete plants cash in Ross' car to frame him for stealing, June 9th 2015

This is the same car that Pete drives to the woods with Ross in the boot on August 6th.

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Pete stops the sporty car with Ross in the boot in the woodland on August 6th

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Rear offside car lights of sporty car with Ross in the boot in the woodland on August 6th

The impounded car at station could still be a 'red herring' and not the dark sporty one. Why James said "So it's a rust bucket held together with string. He probably thought it was cheaper than scrapping it." on August 19th about the impounded car is a mystery still as the dark sporty car (KK07 DMN , so 2007) looks OK to me. Maybe Pete was just trying to make light of the missing Ross situation and just said a flippant comment about the state of Ross' car? I suppose that further details about the impounded car might come out in due course, as someone has to pay whatever fine is applicable to close the matter with Network Rail or a private car park owner.

[Telly Watcher]

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Photo of a typical 2007 Volkswagen Golf GTi (4-door+hatchback model)

[Dalesfan]

Already replied on 'Ross Barton' thread.

But again..why would only Emma and Finn continue looking for his body?? Surely James as well..?? Unless James helps Pete to bury it(awful situation for a father..), and they tell Emma and Finn that Pete can't remember where he dumped him. I hope I'm totally wrong and he's alive. As if it goes like I here suggested..I can say goodbye to Emmerdale. They would be dragging on that storyline for months-until it would all finally come out, and Pete and James(?) would be arrested etc etc. , Ross would be gone...and if Jimmy loses their family home+Nico is not back..there's absolutely nothing to watch..Just Jai with his dodgy dealings, same as baby face Rakesh..yawn..

It's a good point and I hope they don't go down that route. James could just be trying to clean up the mess at the village. Trying to buy some time and stop Debbie and Cain etc going to the police. That gives them a chance to think what to do I'm confident his body is missing though. No matter what, Pete has already confessed so burying the body again isn't going to help him. His family and everyone else will always know what he did so there would be no way back for him anyway. Ross being alive and turning up at some point would give him a chance and a possible way back


I think the silver car seen in the July 13th episode may have been a customer's one that Ross was repairing at the garage and he just used it to meet Debbie in the country lane, as it turns out the dark sporty car is Ross' car after all (it's actually graphite grey in colour) and has been since at least June 9th when Pete planted money in the back of it to set Ross up for stealing.

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Pete plants cash in Ross' car to frame him for stealing, June 9th 2015

This is the same car that Pete drives to the woods with Ross in the boot on August 6th.

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Pete stops the sporty car with Ross in the boot in the woodland on August 6th

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Rear offside car lights of sporty car with Ross in the boot in the woodland on August 6th

The impounded car at station could still be a 'red herring' and not the dark sporty one. Why James said "So it's a rust bucket held together with string. He probably thought it was cheaper than scrapping it." on August 19th about the impounded car is a mystery still as the dark sporty car (KK07 DMN , so 2007) looks OK to me. Maybe Pete was just trying to make light of the missing Ross situation and just said a flippant comment about the state of Ross' car? I suppose that further details about the impounded car might come out in due course, as someone has to pay whatever fine is applicable to close the matter with Network Rail or a private car park owner.

Yea Pete planting the cash in Ross' car does look like the same one. Also I remember now when Aaron and Ross I think were trying to help Cain and Finn put sugar or something in his car. I think it might have been a dark blue one too

[mariba]

I'm impressed of your detective work regarding Ross's car Telly Watcher! :) But I assume he has few of them..He was working as a car mechanic and had his dodgy car dealings...

[sarah c]

Thanks Telly watcher!

Yes it would be possible for Ross to take that car. But I don't think it is the one being impounded as they made an issue of telling us that it was basically being held together with a piece of string and would probably be cheaper to scrap it. That doesn't look like it if it was the blue one above as it looks in pretty good condition.

Yep and you're right I forgot about that but at the time I thought it was a massive clue showing us Aaron not being able to find a pulse. If it was weak then I think Pete would also struggle to find it especially when he is in such a state.

lets face it Ross, Debbie and Cain use clients cars from the garage whenever they want to go somewhere???

if I used their garage I'd note my mileage before I dropped my car off

[Cheetah]

Sorry if this has been said but I'm not good at reading long posts - Ross didn't need or want a phone - he'd prefer not to phone anyone. Also Cain gave him money and a fake passport so he didn't need his wallet. Pete's remark about hi being in Magaluf (?) could just be true. Sort of thing Ross would do - take off and hope everyone would think he's dead and leave everyone speculating - just like us.

[Dalesfan]

Sorry if this has been said but I'm not good at reading long posts - Ross didn't need or want a phone - he'd prefer not to phone anyone. Also Cain gave him money and a fake passport so he didn't need his wallet. Pete's remark about hi being in Magaluf (?) could just be true. Sort of thing Ross would do - take off and hope everyone would think he's dead and leave everyone speculating - just like us.

His phone would have probably been on him, in his pocket or something so seeing as he jumped into water it would no longer work. Cain offered him a passport and money but Ross refused this. He threw the money onto the table where the passport was both items were still on the table when Cain knocked him out. I'm assuming Cain took them back

[Telly Watcher]

Gemma Oaten (Rachel) leaves Emmerdale on Wednesday August 26th 2015.

breakingnews.ie published on August 22nd 2015:
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Emmerdale's Gemma Oaten: Rachel's exit is heartbreaking

Emmerdale’s Gemma Oaten has promised Rachel Breckle and Sam Dingle’s split will be “heartbreaking” despite their difficult relationship.

Gemma is set to depart from the soap after five years when Rachel decides it is best for everyone if she leaves the village, after months of subjecting Sam to violent and mental abuse.

She revealed: “Rachel is devastated but, deep down, knows it is right. She loves Sam and he loves her, but they can’t go on like this.”

The actress added her final scenes are: “Pretty heartbreaking. Rachel and Sam get to say a proper goodbye.”

Things come to a head at Ruby Haswell’s funeral when Rachel’s sister Ali (Kelli Hollis) sees Rachel lashing out at Sam. Ruby was one of the villagers who died in the soap’s dramatic helicopter crash.

Gemma said of filming the funeral: “Alicya [Eyo, who played Ruby] had already left the show, so it felt strange. I couldn’t quite get my head around it. It was hard because I knew these were some of my final scenes.”
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Source: http://www.breakingnews.ie/showbiz/emmerdales-gemma-oaten-rachels-exit-is-heartbreaking-692235.html

[mariba]

Dalesfan: Pete only confesses to Debbie though. And to his family. If James helped Pete to bury the body properly, police wouldn't have evidence as in soapland they are not very clever ;) No body, no murder. I could so see James doing this! Even in Ross's death it would be Pete who is his favorite, his golden boy. Debbie wouldn't have any proof of confession-if they kept quiet, this could drag on for months..yawn..
I of course hope that I'm wrong. Would be much more interesting if body wasn't there and Pete was left wondering and panicking when is he going to come back..

[mariba]

Dalesfan: Pete only confesses to Debbie though. And to his family. If James helped Pete to bury the body properly, police wouldn't have evidence as in soapland they are not very clever ;) No body, no murder. I could so see James doing this! Even in Ross's death it would be Pete who is his favorite, his golden boy. Debbie wouldn't have any proof of confession-if they kept quiet, this could drag on for months..yawn..
I of course hope that I'm wrong. Would be much more interesting if body wasn't there and Pete was left wondering and panicking when is he going to come back..

[Cheetah]

His phone would have probably been on him, in his pocket or something so seeing as he jumped into water it would no longer work. Cain offered him a passport and money but Ross refused this. He threw the money onto the table where the passport was both items were still on the table when Cain knocked him out. I'm assuming Cain took them back

I'm probably wrong but I thought Cain told Debbie he'd given Ross the fake passport and money. I don't think Cain would have taken Ross' phone and put it in his bedroom where Finn found it - so it follows he didn't have that at all. Whatever it's just more for the speculation pot ....... :thumbsup:

[Dalesfan]

Dalesfan: Pete only confesses to Debbie though. And to his family. If James helped Pete to bury the body properly, police wouldn't have evidence as in soapland they are not very clever ;) No body, no murder. I could so see James doing this! Even in Ross's death it would be Pete who is his favorite, his golden boy. Debbie wouldn't have any proof of confession-if they kept quiet, this could drag on for months..yawn..
I of course hope that I'm wrong. Would be much more interesting if body wasn't there and Pete was left wondering and panicking when is he going to come back..

I just assumed from this spoiler that others find out too "Cain is angry to learn that Pete is hanging around, but Moira thinks he wouldn't attack Debbie as he worships the ground she walks on. Cain isn't convinced and points out that Cameron did as well."

I suppose I could see James doing that but it's a huge risk to take. The more people know the harder it stays a secret



I'm probably wrong but I thought Cain told Debbie he'd given Ross the fake passport and money. I don't think Cain would have taken Ross' phone and put it in his bedroom where Finn found it - so it follows he didn't have that at all. Whatever it's just more for the speculation pot ....... :thumbsup:

The phone in the bedroom was his old phone.

[Telly Watcher]

Extra released spoilers for August 24th - 28th 2015 included below:

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Emmerdale Episode Guide – Monday 24th August

Pete watches from across the street as James and Emma set off to identify Ross’ body. At the mortuary a nervous Emma and James are shown into a waiting room. Meanwhile, Pete tells Finn he should prepare himself for the worst. They try to ring Pete but he doesn’t answer his phone. Meanwhile, Pete is crippled with fear, as he knows the discovery of Ross’ body will bring the police to his front door. Will Pete’s fear cause him to make a confession? Moments later Pete drops his bombshell - he killed Ross.

Zak’s worries over Sam and Rachel’s relationship are piqued when he sees them rowing when the car breaks down. When Zak tries to raise the matter with Rachel she reacts badly and soon Sam is under pressure to tell Zak and Lisa they won’t be welcome at Ruby’s funeral. When Zak hears of this, he’s more worried than ever about Sam and Rachel.

Ashley and Diane are finding it hard to get Pollard to open up and discuss Val’s funeral arrangements so Diane uses underhand methods to find out what they are.

Ali is back in the village for Ruby’s funeral, Dan explains exactly what happened but it’s clear he’s still suffering. Priya is unimpressed when Rakesh tells her what Jimmy wants. Emma and James give into their passion.


Emmerdale Episode Guide – Tuesday 25th August

Debbie struggles to understand what Pete has just told her. He is floored to learn the body in the morgue is not Ross but a complete stranger. He tells Debbie about the fight he had with Ross and the severe head injury he gave him and what happened. Debbie can’t believe what she is hearing. Pete is soon bitter over how Debbie reacts. Later on, when Debbie wants them to go and find Ross’s body, Pete loses his temper and asks her how she can still love his brother. She is horrified and begins to panic, yelling at Pete to stay away, thinking he is just like Cameron. She runs out and leaves Pete utterly broken. James finds a panicked Debbie running down the street and is soon left in shock when Pete tells him he killed Ross. When he learns his son is serious, a devastated James asks Pete to take him to where he left the body.Out in the moors, Pete shows James over to where he left the body….

It’s Ruby’s funeral but Ashley is nervous about conducting it, hoping he doesn’t mess it up. It is heart wrenching when Ali, Amelia and Dan all speak from their hearts about Ruby. Meanwhile, Lisa and Zak struggle with Sam having banned them from it. Lisa is shocked when Zak tells her he thinks Rachel is knocking Sam about. Outside the church, Ali is concerned by Rachel’s furious reaction when Sam’s phone goes off as he’s pall bearing. Later in the Woolpack, Rachel tells Sam he ruined Ruby’s funeral. Sam follows her outside, fearing her temper. Once outside, Ali is witness to Rachel’s behaviour and makes a life changing suggestion to her sister.

Diane gathers a small group in the Woolpack back-room to watch Val’s DVD, which turns out to be a lively video detailing how she wants a spectacular and extravagant send off. All except a numb Pollard are amused and touched to see Val again. But soon the DVD content takes a turn when Val dishes out some of her rather harsh opinions.

In prison, Bob and Brenda are worried whether Harriet will be able to track down Carly. Bob is left uneasy when a fellow inmate Ged (James Gaddas) tries to coerce him into getting Brenda to sneak stuff into prison for him. Bob comes clean to Brenda, he needs her to smuggle stuff in for Ged. But will Brenda?


Emmerdale Episode Guide – Wednesday 26th August

James fills in in Emma about what happened with Pete and Ross. Whilst Pete tries to talk to Debbie. He is guilt ridden when she compares him to Cameron, warning him to stay away from her. Pointing out how even if she could forgive him, he surely could never forgive her for her affair with Ross. Pete is devastated but unable to deny it. Later on, Emma and Finn are finding it hard to locate Ross without the help of the police. Pete arrives and feels the scorn of his family for the first time in his life.

Violent prison inmate Ged has arranged for his friend Anita to meet Brenda with a sim card for her to sneak into prison. As Brenda arrives through prison security she sets off the metal detector. Terrified with what she is doing and aware Bob’s safety whilst inside, is in her hands.

Things are awkward between Sam and Rachel and despite knowing it’s for the best, Sam is devastated to be losing her. Jai is shocked to hear Rachel is moving to Liverpool, but powerless to stop her. Rachel goes to see Megan thanking her for her help, and left shocked when Megan reveals she is still pregnant. Rachel then says her goodbyes.

Ali tells Amelia she is going to live with Sean. Dan is told he needs to be there for his daughter, but it is clear that he is still struggling. David tells Alicia the move to Portugal is on hold for now. Alicia convinces him to book flights, but his reluctance is palpable.


Emmerdale Episode Guide – Thursday 27th August

Cain's angry to learn Pete is hanging around but Moira thinks he wouldn't attack Debbie as he worships the ground she walks on. Cain, however, points out Cameron did as well! Later, Debbie's unnerved to see Pete in her house. He tells her he is just picking up his stuff, but he's heartbroken to see she's terrified of him.

At the prison, Bob tells a terrified Brenda that she won't have to sneak any more stuff into prison and hopes his bravado has reassured he. Later, in the cell, Bob stands up to Ged but is wary when he agrees not to go near Brenda again. He worries he has made things worse. Later, Harriet's shocked when Bob rings her and says she has to change her statement about Ged because if she doesn't, Ged will hurt Brenda. Harriet tells Bob to lie to Ged that she'll do what he wants, hopeful Bob will be released before Ged goes to trial.

Zak tells Megan that Rachel is as much to blame as Jai for Sam's current state and explains why. At Home Farm, Sam can't believe Zak has told Megan and he is furious until he is completely thrown when she rushes out, to be sick. Sam insists he take her to see a doctor and she reluctantly agrees. Later, Sam realises Megan is still pregnant and invites her to live with him. She is grateful for his support. However, Jai evicts Sam from his house when he learns about Megan moving in. At the factory, Rishi and Priya try to mollify clients who have heard the gossip about Jai. Megan tells them about Jai evicting her and Sam and asks Rishi for help. Rishi warns Jai that unless they recover the orders he lost they won't be able to pay the staff and says he'll only help Jai with the business if he lets Megan stay rent free with Sam.

Doug watches Val's DVD as he helps with funeral arrangements but is left unimpressed when Val has given Diane some advice. Later, in the pub, Doug shows Laurel the comedy tie he's bought for the funeral, anxious to prove Val was wrong about him.

Jai looks for Rachel but Lisa and Zak refuse to help him. Emma's overwhelmed when James suggests they tell people they're back together

Alicia tells Jacob they can't go to Portugal at the moment as David has to look after Pollard.


Emmerdale Episode Guide – Friday 28th August

Jai tries desperately to sell the cocaine but to no avail. Meanwhile, a frustrated Kirin is trying to get money for his cordial packaging but Rishi can't help him. Jai, who has seen this, gets an idea. He tries to get Kirin to shift the drugs and even tells him about Rakesh's history with cocaine to try and convince him. Will Kirin be convinced to risk everything?

Rakesh is furious to learn Jai told Kirin about his past with drugs. Harriet admits she doesn't have any leads on Carly and Bob's sentencing is next week. Pollard's resentment for Diane grows
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Source: http://www.sofeminine.co.uk/emmerdale-gossip/alert-tp21625.html


During the episode on Wednesday 26th August:

James fills in in Emma about what happened with Pete and Ross.
Later on, Emma and Finn are finding it hard to locate Ross without the help of the police.

Sounds like James tells Emma everything between Pete and Ross, including dumping the body and how James and Pete didn't find the body in the woods?

I doubt if Emma tells the police the full details about what James has told her but just pushes them along in their missing person police enquiries and, presumably, the police step-up activities like checking around hospitals, places to stay, bobby-on-the-beat lookouts, etc.

What bothers me is that Ross never got a chance to say a proper goodbye on Emmerdale, his script and 'exit scene' called for him to just switch off like a lightbulb when his head hit the kerb at the hospital. This just doesn't seem to be the usual Emmerdale bad lad send-off, as even Cameron had big exit scenes. Carl King's send-off was short and sweet though. Good people like Ruby and Val had recent major send-off scenes too. I really think we haven't seen the last of Ross yet. And just what was Mike Parr acting out recently on the Emmerdale set, seemingly at least up to August 14th and weeks after filming for Summer Fate wrapped (from Twitter/TV magazine evidence)?

e.g. Sunday World published about the previous week Sunday August 16th 2015:
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Michael and Anthony are busy boys on-set these days after the fall-out from the wedding revelations continue for Pete and Ross. "Two brothers, one woman...it's big", smiles Michael.
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Source: https://twitter.com/sher222_sher/status/632974322332774400

[Telly Watcher]

Why only Emma and Finn?
Surely if Pete and James won't find his body in the woods, at least James would be looking as well. UNLESS-James helps Pete to bury it properly and keeps it as a secret.
And IF they don't find his body there, what would James think? That Pete either can't remember where he dumped him or is lying or that in fact-Ross must be alive.

All this is still very puzzling..those spoilers don't give away anything..

I posted the latest Sun's TV Sunday magazine spoilers on this forum earlier because the new spoiler in this magazine for Wednesday August 26th is the first and only one yet I'd seen to suggest that Emma and Finn still do not know, during at least some of Wednesday August 26th, where Ross is and that he remains missing to them (and to us and everyone else in Emmerdale I guess, maybe except for James and Pete who could have personal experience information which we do not know about yet/ever?). Since then, other magazines/newspapers have agreed with the Sun's Sunday TV magazine.

As you suggest, mariba, James and Pete would be expected to wonder where Ross is too for now, if the woods location they searched in did not have Ross' body there where Pete claimed that he left it. I really don't think that James would play any part in the burial/relocation/hiding of Ross' body in the woods or anywhere else. James is one of those hard-working (= local, boring, seemingly long-term) Emmerdale characters who is basically decent, honest and law-abiding. The Emmerdale bad lads just seem to end badly sooner-or-later (e.g recent ones include Carl King, Cameron, etc.) The current spoilers for August 31st - September 4th do not mention anything about Ross/James/Pete, so we are maybe safe in thinking that nothing much happens on this story for now and that Ross has simply disappeared for whatever reason. My own view on this is that Pete missed vital signs on August 6th that Ross was still alive outside the hospital buildings after the fight with Pete and when Pete tried to check for Ross' neck artery pulse and missed something weak that Pete just panicked and made the assumption that Ross was dead whereas, in reality, Ross was just unconscious and in a temporary state of unconsciousness from which he would recover from in due course and would make his way to friends/hospital to be cared for after Pete had left him for dead in the woods. I have to say that I think that the scenes with Pete (actor Anthony Quinn) fighting with Ross and then dumping him in the woods have been, for me anyway, the best acted scenes by Anthony Quinn on Emmerdale since he joined the cast in 2013. About the car thing, I seem to remember from previous episodes that Pete spends a lot of time driving around in a green farm Land Rover. Maybe he doesn't have a personal car, at least not a flash sporty black VW as he was seen driving to the woods on August 6th with Ross in the boot of the car? Ross would definitely be expected to have a lad's car and a sporty VW Golf would definitely fit the bill. Unfortunately, I cannot yet find any internet link/catch-up TV show for June 9th which will replay what happened then and which shows Ross's latest car then, it seems, and from which I could get images from.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNLRsTzW8AEr-wL.jpg
Pete driving green farm Land Rover into Emmerdale village, June 9th 2015

We know that Emma found Ross' wallet, cash, credit cards and old mobile phone at where he was living. What wasn't mentioned were Ross' car/house keys and new mobile phone. When Cain attacked Ross and knocked him unconscious at his place before Ross refused the fake passport and cash for overseas travel there before Cain took Ross in the back of Cain's van to leave Ross hanging over the cliff face at the quarry, it is possible that either Ross had his car/house keys and mobile with him in the back of Cain's van or that Cain had emptied Ross' pockets in the house and left these items there. What is extremely likely is that, if Ross had jumped into the quarry water and been floating there for quite a while, then any mobile phone he had on him would not have worked afterwards. We as TV viewers may never know if Ross had house/car keys and new mobile phone in his pockets when he jumped into the quarry water or whether he picked these items up from his house or car before he drove his car from Emmerdale village to the hospital in the August 5th episode to see if Debbie was all right. We'll just be left guessing on this maybe, if he shows up in Emmerdale again or not.

[mariba]

Thank you Telly Watcher! Glad to hear I was wrong and Ross is most likely alive!! :)

I DO like James by the way-as I like the whole Barton family, excluding Adam. Well-Emma has her moments too ;)

[mariba]

Thank you Telly Watcher! Glad to hear I was wrong and Ross is most likely alive!! :)

I DO like James by the way-as I like the whole Barton family, excluding Adam. Well-Emma has her moments too ;)

[mariba]

So Ali comes and goes(thank goodness for that..!) but it doesn't look like she really loved Ruby, as everything has happened off screen with her. At least she manages to attend the funeral..!!
Dan's guilt??! I'm sick of it already and it just continues this week as well??.. Man up Dan! What about your daughter?!

[mariba]

So Ali comes and goes(thank goodness for that..!) but it doesn't look like she really loved Ruby, as everything has happened off screen with her. At least she manages to attend the funeral..!!
Dan's guilt??! I'm sick of it already and it just continues this week as well??.. Man up Dan! What about your daughter?!

[lizann]

dan and rachel are grating big time on me, enough dan move on and rachel cant stop anyone going to a funeral :angry:

[kiwigirl]

dan and rachel are grating big time on me, enough dan move on and rachel cant stop anyone going to a funeral :angry:

I so agree with you, and I am so sick of that Rachel she needs to go away sooner rather than later.

[Debzyg]

I have to say I thought when Dan was getting all upset and doing the "I couldn't save her" thing I thought it was bad acting and looked quite pathetic.

I really think they should move on from the Dan feeling sorry for himself storyline now. It's getting tedious and cringeworthy to watch the fake tears!

[Telly Watcher]

I too think the Dan storyline is odd. This is so different from his usual chirpy self. As Ruby was the third person who got Dan's wife away from him, I'd have thought he'd have been at least a little happy that she'd gone.

Maybe this is the start of a storyline about mental health, perhaps Post Traumatic Stress Disorder in particular, and just another big issue thrown into the now very big Emmerdale storyline cooking pot they've been using for the show lately. The way things are going that pot is soon going to be big enough to feed the world. haha!

[Debzyg]

I too think the Dan storyline is odd. This is so different from his usual chirpy self. As Ruby was the third person who got Dan's wife away from him, I'd have thought he'd have been at least a little happy that she'd gone.

Maybe this is the start of a storyline about mental health, perhaps Post Traumatic Stress Disorder in particular, and just another big issue thrown into the now very big Emmerdale storyline cooking pot they've been using for the show lately. The way things are going that pot is soon going to be big enough to feed the world. haha!

Well if it is then they're doing mental health issues no favours by using this as an example because the acting from Dan is awful. My 9 month old nephew does better fake tears than that!!

[sarah c]

or is this the start of dan deciding to train in first aid or something as a way of over coming his failures with Ruby and then Ashley?

[Perdita]

or is this the start of dan deciding to train in first aid or something as a way of over coming his failures with Ruby and then Ashley?

I like that idea

[tammyy2j]

I too think the Dan storyline is odd. This is so different from his usual chirpy self. As Ruby was the third person who got Dan's wife away from him, I'd have thought he'd have been at least a little happy that she'd gone.

Maybe this is the start of a storyline about mental health, perhaps Post Traumatic Stress Disorder in particular, and just another big issue thrown into the now very big Emmerdale storyline cooking pot they've been using for the show lately. The way things are going that pot is soon going to be big enough to feed the world. haha!

Yes I thought depression too for Dan after Ruby's death

[Debzyg]

Ross lives!!!

Knew it!!

[suzewebb]

Actually thought charley webb was good in tonights ep and usually im not keen.

[Serena Williams]

Yes I thought depression too for Dan after Ruby's death

Did Dan have romantic feelings towards Ruby?

[Serena Williams]

Yes I thought depression too for Dan after Ruby's death

Did Dan have romantic feelings towards Ruby?

[mariba]

And nothing is Debbie's fault of course.. sigh..

[Perdita]

Did Dan have romantic feelings towards Ruby?

I don´t think so, she was his ex wife´s partner and step mother to his daughter and they were quite close in a platonic way. I think Dan feels guilty for not being able to help her, witnessing somebody dying and not being able to do anything about it can be tough on someone, I guess Dan feels that he failed her

[lizann]

Actually thought charley webb was good in tonights ep and usually im not keen.

yes debbie freaking was done well

[lizann]

Actually thought charley webb was good in tonights ep and usually im not keen.

yes debbie freaking was done well

[Telly Watcher]

The viewer figures for Tuesday's episode showing James and Pete looking for Ross in the woods and for Ross to be revealed as being in hospital were only 5.3m overnight, so about 1 million less than Summer Fate episodes and coming down to the regular viewer fanbase again.

digitalspy.co.uk published on Wednesday August 26th 2015:
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UK TV ratings: Emmerdale's big Ross Barton twist seen by 5.3m
By Daniel Kilkelly
Wednesday, Aug 26 2015, 10:12 BST
UK TV soap ratings roundup - data supplied by BARB

Emmerdale topped Tuesday's soap ratings (August 25) with Ross Barton's return from the dead, overnight figures show.

5.34m (28.1%) tuned in at 7pm on ITV and 320k (1.6%) on +1 as an hour-long episode ended with the revelation that Ross is still alive and recovering in hospital following his violent clash with his brother Pete.
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Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a665328/uk-tv-ratings-emmerdales-big-ross-barton-twist-seen-by-53m.html

[Telly Watcher]

mariba wrote on Ross Barton (Michael Parr) thread on 26-08-15:
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Pete is facing up to his past on tomorrow's hour long episode..hmm..could it be that Ross is back already..?
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I watched last night's Wednesday episode and a number of things of interest got shown.

First off, Ross had been carrying the fake passport that Cain had got for him in the name of Stephen Parkin. (I wonder if he had Cain's cash on him too?)

Second off, The police are due to visit him in hospital later today, Thursday August 27th, presumably to enquire about his identity, his injuries and how he got them.

So for now, no-one in the hospital or police knows who Ross really is. I don't think Ross will wait around to meet the police and reckon he'll run away from the hospital early this morning. He could maybe find somewhere to stay away for a while or even go back to Emmerdale directly if he has no money and nowhere else to go.

The ITV spoiler for today's episode says "Pete faces up to the past" and another spoiler summary says:
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Emmerdale Episode Guide – Thursday 27th August

Cain's angry to learn Pete is hanging around but Moira thinks he wouldn't attack Debbie as he worships the ground she walks on. Cain, however, points out Cameron did as well! Later, Debbie's unnerved to see Pete in her house. He tells her he is just picking up his stuff, but he's heartbroken to see she's terrified of him.
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Source: http://www.sofeminine.co.uk/emmerdale-gossip/emmerdale-27-08-pete-is-heartbroken-to-realise-debbie-is-terrified-of-him-s1525362.html

At first I thought the spoilers meant that Pete would find himself away from Debbie, his family and job at the farm, for a while anyway. The ITV spoiler for September 10th says "Pete’s vulnerable state worries his family", so he must have gone downhill mentally/emotionally by then. Even up to then, nothing is mentioned in any spoilers about Ross but we all know that proves nothing, given the secrecy about the whole Ross plot for the past 3 weeks. I suppose Ross could return later today, it is the Thursday big storyline episode after all.

[tammyy2j]

Which hospital is Ross in and if it is the local police (Donna's former partner) he will know Ross

[Telly Watcher]

Which hospital is Ross in and if it is the local police (Donna's former partner) he will know Ross

Tonight's double episode showed Ross was at York Infirmary to begin with. York city centre is about 22 miles from Harewood where Emmerdale is set so presumably the wood where Ross was found by a dogwalker was nearer York, so I'd guess the wood was about 5-7 miles away from there.

As expected, Ross ran away from this hospital to avoid being questioned by police over his fake passport. He later showed up at Butlers Farm where he subsequently fell ill (air embolism from damaged lung) and was taken to hospital, presumably Hotton General as usual.