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moonstorm
29-07-2015, 11:08
EastEnders Week 32 Spoilers
Monday 10th August 2015
Emotions are running high in the Beale household as Jane panics about why Carol’s been talking to the police.
But will she listen to Ian’s pleas to carry on as normal?
Abi heads to a homeless shelter to find Cora.
Tuesday 11th August 2015
Ian struggles to keep his family together and soon finds himself at a loss when he makes a shocking discovery.
Buster has some friendly advice to Vincent about the Mitchells but will Vincent listen?
Vincent frets about his kiss with Ronnie.
Thursday 13th August 2015
Further evidence comes to light in the Lucy Beale investigation but the revelations leave the Beales at war with one another.
Carol comes to a shocking realisation but what has she uncovered?
Friday 14th August 2015
There’s more trouble brewing in Walford and with her whole world falling apart, Jane finally realises what she needs to do to in order to save her family. But as she puts her plan in motion, will it work or cause more upset?
What next?
Things continue to get worse for the struggling Beale family.
What next for Vincent and Ronnie?
Roxy’s a fool for love – but will she begin to see things more clearly?
moonstorm
29-07-2015, 11:08
Looks like Jane is going to take the blame for the murder?
Looks like Jane is going to take the blame for the murder?
or tell all to carol but would she cover for bobby at he expense of max
Looks like Jane is going to take the blame for the murder?
or tell all to carol but would she cover for bobby at he expense of max
parkerman
29-07-2015, 16:31
or tell all to carol but would she cover for bobby at he expense of max
Well I certainly wouldn't!
Well I certainly wouldn't!
me too but ian could pay her off
Well I certainly wouldn't!
me too but ian could pay her off
maidmarian
29-07-2015, 18:41
me too but ian could pay her off
Well he could and probably would.! But Id
like to think better of Carol than that she
would accept. ! Shes usually one of the
better female characters on EE.
It does sound as tho she might a have a bit
of a.meltdown soon(in spoilers) and they've
got to write an exit story for her break/ leaving.
Perhaps use money to get away from Walford.
Who knows . Another character behaving
" out of character".I always thought Max&
Carol had a good bro/ sis relationship!!
So hope its some other exit story for her!
maidmarian
29-07-2015, 18:41
Dupl
tammyy2j
29-07-2015, 21:14
Looks like Jane is going to take the blame for the murder?
I like that Jane at least is showing signs of guilt and could confess
I don't think Carol would let Max stay in prison, I think Carol will fight to get Max out only her and Stacey will be on Max's side
Different spoilers:
Monday
Emotions are running high at the Beales. With her world crumbling, Jane resorts to drastic measures.
A familiar face returns to the Square.
Tuesday
Ian tries his best to keep his family together, but he soon finds himself back at square one when he learns a shocking truth.
Paul and Les open up about their feelings.
Thursday
Carol comes to a shocking conclusion.
Ronnie attempts to make friends with the enemy - but her plan soon backfires.
Friday
Roxy reels from her discovery - and makes a surprising decision.
The Butchers and Beales reach breaking point.
Carol struggles to come to terms with recent events.
Kathy back would be my guess
Kathy back would be my guess
Yes, I've heard she's due back in August.
it couldn't be lauren could it
Kathy back would be my guess
Kathy is September so I've heard.
Kathy back would be my guess
Kathy is September so I've heard.
Robbie I think
Forgot about him coming back for a short while ...
EastEnders youngster Bobby Beale will continue to spiral out of control later this month, deciding to take revenge on Max Branning for supposedly killing his sister Lucy.
With the Beales in turmoil following Max's arrest, they soon find themselves at war with each other - and Cindy (Mimi Keene) in particular will struggle to cope with keeping their dark secret under wraps.
Having been left to look after Bobby (Eliot Carrington), Cindy heads out alone to get some fresh air and soon finds herself opening up to Liam Butcher about her concerns.
When Cindy returns, she is horrified to see an upset Bobby about to put a brick through Max's car window, believing he was responsible for murdering Lucy.
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Bobby attempts to take revenge on Max
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Bobby attempts to take revenge on Max
Without thinking, Cindy angrily grabs Bobby and drags him home where the pair have a huge argument, but as the situation escalates, Cindy finds herself being pushed over.
With emotions running high, will Cindy finally crumble and come clean about what really happened on Good Friday 2014?
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Cindy catches Bobby in the act
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Cindy catches Bobby in the act
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A furious Cindy drags Bobby away
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A furious Cindy drags Bobby away
EastEnders airs these scenes on Monday, August 10 at 8pm on BBC One.
parkerman
02-08-2015, 09:13
Ooooohhhhh!!!!!
Just had a thought. I remember hearing that when news of Liam's departure came, James Forde tweeted that people might not be happy with how it ends. He seems to be regarded as a weak actor so I'm wondering if Liam is going to be told the truth and confess to cover for Bobby (and get Uncle Max out.) The character could then be recast and come out of prison once the police work out that he couldn't possibly have done it and have him serve some time for perverting the course of justice.
It seemed that Liam was going before Carol and that was odd to me.
maidmarian
02-08-2015, 11:12
Just had a thought. I remember hearing that when news of Liam's departure came, James Forde tweeted that people might not be happy with how it ends. He seems to be regarded as a weak actor so I'm wondering if Liam is going to be told the truth and confess to cover for Bobby (and get Uncle Max out.) The character could then be recast and come out of prison once the police work out that he couldn't possibly have done it and have him serve some time for perverting the course of justice.
It seemed that Liam was going before Carol and that was odd to me.
Its a good idea Kim and perhaps could
work. Not sure saving Uncle Max is a strong
enough reason-but there have been less
believable ones in soaps!! But even if Liam
takes the blame - that only temporarily
solves things??
Where I think the "Bobby Story" will unravel
is because he is becoming out of control
in public. ( spoilers above).
Jane &Ian may make him think hes innocent
of Lucys death and may connive/bully family
members to be complicit but he is becoming out
of control and may seriously harm someone
outside the family circle and it cant be swept
away. Phil would hardly complain about a 10yr
old brandishing a golf club.
But if he attacked and harmed another child -
there would be repercussions- outside the
family control.
The only way to protect him is for - say-Jane
to take him away. But that may not work
as more time alone with her may actually
make him worse.And he could commit
some offence where ever he is- particularly
if he feels hes being punished wrongly - in
his opinion.
Im not sure they can contain the Bobby
story realistically for several more months
as intended- but we will see!
maidmarian
02-08-2015, 11:12
Dupl.
Its a good idea Kim and perhaps could
work. Not sure saving Uncle Max is a strong
enough reason-but there have been less
believable ones in soaps!! But even if Liam
takes the blame - that only temporarily
solves things??
Where I think the "Bobby Story" will unravel
is because he is becoming out of control
in public. ( spoilers above).
Jane &Ian may make him think hes innocent
of Lucys death and may connive/bully family
members to be complicit but he is becoming out
of control and may seriously harm someone
outside the family circle and it cant be swept
away. Phil would hardly complain about a 10yr
old brandishing a golf club.
But if he attacked and harmed another child -
there would be repercussions- outside the
family control.
The only way to protect him is for - say-Jane
to take him away. But that may not work
as more time alone with her may actually
make him worse.And he could commit
some offence where ever he is- particularly
if he feels hes being punished wrongly - in
his opinion.
Im not sure they can contain the Bobby
story realistically for several more months
as intended- but we will see!
Yeah, it's not the most believable thing in the world, which had me thinking that it could happen - actors seem to get little say these days in the scripts/whether their character would ever do x, accounting for some continuity errors (no one knows the character better than the actor surely) and farfetched storylines. Someone else taking the blame for Bobby wouldn't go down well either.
If it does happen, I could see Ian making a comment that prison is better than a life with Bianca.
Liam is probably the most stuck in the middle character in the whole Square in this, by blood anyway. It's a shame DTC hasn't utilised Liam since bending over backwards to keep him when Bianca left (Liam saying that he was staying because Whitney was was ridiculous) to build up his relationships with these relatives. If that is the way it's headed, it would have made it more realistic.
Cindy, being the half-sister of Lucy but not even a step-sister to Bobby, should realistically have been at the police station shopping Bobby along with Peter. Liam is close to her though, so might well go along with the pretence if that was what she wanted. Ian is his Great Uncle as well as Max (although half rather than full.) Bobby is his first cousin once removed, though I think people forget that seeing as Tiffany and Bobby were 'dating' back in Newman era.
I wonder if Bobby will discover his involvement in the coming weeks. Cindy is bound to complain to Ian and Jane that they have taught him that using force/violence is acceptable, seeing as he has been led to believe that no harm came to Lucy after he hit her. He's probably unaware of the injuries that these objects can cause (he's into computer games and was doing well at school, so probably isn't the most streetwise 12 year old.) He has been overhearing more and more so I think it's only a matter of time before he overhears the truth or enough to put two and two together.
if bobby kills again it could be liam or cindy
maidmarian
02-08-2015, 14:41
if bobby kills again it could be liam or cindy
Possibly so.He is out of control.!!
There be more problem covering anr death up
tho!! And from same/ connected family.
Ive just been reading the Synopsis of
" We need to talk about Kevin" as I didn't
see the film. The producer says that is where
he got the idea for "Bobby Story " from.
Bobby doesnt seem as bright/crafty as Kevin
and Jane is more aware/ manipulative than
Kevins mother. Also not Bobbys birth mother
and came into his life when already had bad
experiences!!
I might have got the story a bit wrong but
it seems a bit extreme and spread over a longish
period. It would have to be cut back a lot
to be in a Soap - both in content & length.
Viewers do complain if stories go on too long.!
maidmarian
02-08-2015, 14:41
Dupl
Just had a thought. I remember hearing that when news of Liam's departure came, James Forde tweeted that people might not be happy with how it ends. He seems to be regarded as a weak actor so I'm wondering if Liam is going to be told the truth and confess to cover for Bobby (and get Uncle Max out.)
I love that idea, but if Liam does confess I think his prime motivation would be Cindy. He's been in love with her for a long time, and has shown time and time again that he's willing to sacrifice himself for her. What better way to prove his love than to sacrifice himself to protect her secret? :heart:
Im not sure they can contain the Bobby
story realistically for several more months
as intended- but we will see!
No, it doesn't seem as if the Bobby story is going to be as long-term as I hoped from the above spoilers. I suppose, realistically, DTC is going to want to complete this story during his tenure. He's been EP for going on two years now, and they often don't stay longer than that.
However the story finally ends, the ramifications will be felt within the Beale family for years, that's for sure! :eek:
Ive just been reading the Synopsis of
" We need to talk about Kevin" as I didn't
see the film. The producer says that is where
he got the idea for "Bobby Story " from.
Bobby doesnt seem as bright/crafty as Kevin
and Jane is more aware/ manipulative than
Kevins mother. Also not Bobbys birth mother
and came into his life when already had bad
experiences!!
I might have got the story a bit wrong but
it seems a bit extreme and spread over a longish
period. It would have to be cut back a lot
to be in a Soap - both in content & length.
Viewers do complain if stories go on too long.!
Yeah, there's no way they can go as extreme as the truly evil Kevin in the above film (I didn't make it until the end as I found it too disturbing, but I think he eventually went on the rampage and gunned down some schoolkids). I'd say DTC was inspired by the film rather than the Bobby story being a direct copy.
parkerman
02-08-2015, 20:20
I realise that EE doesn't care too much for plausibility, but how is Liam going to show he murdered Lucy? Even if he confesses he will still have to provide evidence for how he did it. It seems bad enough to me that the police think they have a case against Max but Liam???
The same way Stacey did I guess. Although she was actually guilty, there were no forensics, only a motive. Cindy could tell Liam what Jane told them about how Bobby did it and Liam could adapt it and say he went round and Lucy started saying he wasn't family or something. It was only a thought so of course I could be completely wrong.
I realise that EE doesn't care too much for plausibility, but how is Liam going to show he murdered Lucy? Even if he confesses he will still have to provide evidence for how he did it. It seems bad enough to me that the police think they have a case against Max but Liam???
If Liam did confess to Lucy's murder, I'd be more worried about what motive he'd provide.
None of the soaps are big on realism in legal matters - it's all about entertainment and sensationalism. As long as the explanation is possible (even if somewhat unlikely) I'll probably go along it. At least in Max's case there is evidence, albeit circumstantial, and we know that people are sometimes wrongly convicted on nothing more in real life. Clever barristers can twist the facts to suit themselves.
As for Liam, maybe Cindy could tell him some details about Lucy's murder that the general public don't know? That's often how the police weed out false confessions in real life. Maybe he could tell them that he used the music box? There might still be forensic evidence on that.
Edited to add: cross-posted with Kim's post.
As for Liam, maybe Cindy could tell him some details about Lucy's murder that the general public don't know? That's often how the police weed out false confessions in real life. Maybe he could tell them that he used the music box? There might still be forensic evidence on that.
Yes, I'd have thought so. Everyone in the house had their prints taken for elimination purposes if I recall, plus Jane I'd imagine, as the former step-mother (because immediate family aren't the first place to look in soapland.) If Liam wanted to confess and touched the jewellery box, his prints would look out of place: a half first-cousin once removed who wasn't particularly close to his Uncle and who probably wouldn't have come into contact with the box the one time he was in the house with Cindy prior to Lucy's death. (Mind you, being male, I'm not sure what Bobby would want with it, whereas Ian's would be on it because he found the cocaine in there.)
Was it Emma that planted the box for Beth at Christmas? Did we ever get any confirmation of who did it?
Yes, I'd have thought so. Everyone in the house had their prints taken for elimination purposes if I recall, plus Jane I'd imagine, as the former step-mother (because immediate family aren't the first place to look in soapland.) If Liam wanted to confess and touched the jewellery box, his prints would look out of place: a half first-cousin once removed who wasn't particularly close to his Uncle and who probably wouldn't have come into contact with the box the one time he was in the house with Cindy prior to Lucy's death. (Mind you, being male, I'm not sure what Bobby would want with it, whereas Ian's would be on it because he found the cocaine in there.)
Was it Emma that planted the box for Beth at Christmas? Did we ever get any confirmation of who did it?
I think they could get away Liam's lack of fingerprints because the music box has been handled by so many people since the murder (it even ended up in a charity shop at one point). It's likely that any fingerprints from April 2014 would be smudged by now. It was probably even been wiped clean before being given to the charity shop (although that wouldn't remove all traces of blood).
Jane said that Bobby put the music box under the tree as a surprise for Beth. Another example of how twisted he is perhaps?
tammyy2j
02-08-2015, 22:05
I cant see Bianca letting her son Liam go to prison for Lucy's murder she would be back fighting for him
I cant see Bianca letting her son Liam go to prison for Lucy's murder she would be back fighting for him
She probably won't even hear about it all the way from Milton Keynes! :p
maidmarian
02-08-2015, 22:46
She probably won't even hear about it all the way from Milton Keynes! :p
We might hear her tho.!
Just been looking for ear-plugs!
maidmarian
02-08-2015, 22:46
Dupl
We might hear her tho.!
Just been looking for ear-plugs!
I'll have to dig mine out in readiness too! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/happy/smileys-happy-514478.gif (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
EastEnders' Cora Cross will return to Albert Square next week, but will struggle to reconnect with those closest to her.
Cora (Ann Mitchell) was last seen in April as she departed Walford following the death of her partner Stan Carter.
Although she left with the intention of living with her daughter Tanya, recent episodes have implied that did not go to plan, and upcoming scenes will see her spotted in a local homeless shelter.
After Jane offers to drive Carol and Abi to the location, they do not get the reaction they were expecting when Cora attempts to run away after seeing them.
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Carol, Jane and Abi find Cora
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Carol, Jane and Abi find Cora
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Carol, Jane and Abi find Cora
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Carol, Jane and Abi find Cora
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Abi chases after Cora
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Abi chases after Cora
Although Cora initially refuses to return to the Square, she eventually changes her mind after an emotional plea from Jane.
However, on arriving back, Cora's struggle continues as she refuses to open up to her family or accept that they care about her. Will anyone be able to change her mind?
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Cora talks to Abi
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Abi and Cora have a heart to heart
EastEnders airs these scenes on Monday, August 10 at 8pm on BBC One.
Airs Monday, Aug 10 2015 at 20:00 BST on BBC One
Cindy is asked to look after Bobby for a while as Ian and Jane are both busy. With her world spiralling, Cindy heads out alone to get some fresh air and opens up to Liam about her worries. When she returns, she is horrified to see an upset Bobby about to put a brick through Max's car window. Cindy angrily grabs Bobby and drags him home, where the pair have a huge argument and Cindy finds herself being pushed over.
Later, Jane and Ian both return home to find an upset Cindy on the floor. It's clear that Cindy has had enough and she shares some home truths about Bobby. Ian defends his son, but it seems that Jane is also at the end of her tether and she vows to tell Carol the truth.
Jane marches over to the Butcher house and Ian does his best to stop her, but he has no luck and they soon find themselves standing before a confused Carol. Is Jane about to reveal the Beale family's dark secret?
Meanwhile, Cora is back on everyone's mind following the news that she has been spotted at a local homeless shelter. Carol, Jane and Abi visit the location and manage to find her, but they don't get the reaction they were expecting and Cora attempts to run away.
Cora eventually agrees to return to the Square after an emotional plea from Jane, but she still refuses to open up to her family or accept that they care about her.
Airs Tuesday, Aug 11 2015 at 19:30 BST on BBC One
Ian tries his best to keep his family together, but he soon finds himself back at square one when he learns a shocking truth.
As Ian struggles to come to terms with the news, he and Cindy come up with a plan to fix the problem - but will their idea work?
Meanwhile, Buster gives Vincent some friendly advice, urging him to be wary of the Mitchells. A concerned Vincent visits Ronnie and asks her if she told Buster about their kiss. Ronnie realises that someone must have been in the house at the time. When confronted about this, Roxy insists that things are over between her and Dean. Later on, Ronnie realises this isn't true, as Roxy is wearing a new top that she saw Dean buy from the market earlier.
Elsewhere, a dishevelled Les continues to struggle without Pam. Feeling guilty, Paul visits his grandad and they open up about their feelings.
Airs Thursday, Aug 13 2015 at 19:30 BST on BBC One
When further evidence in the Lucy Beale investigation comes to light, the Beales find themselves at war with one another.
At the same time, Carol comes to a shocking realisation.
Meanwhile, Ronnie confronts her sister over Dean, forcing Roxy to come clean and admit that she is still seeing him. After a huge argument, Ronnie eventually apologises to Roxy and agrees to stay out of the relationship from now on. Despite this promise, Ronnie clearly has other ideas as she makes friends with the enemy and invites Dean over for dinner.
Dean hopes the drama is finally over, until Ronnie interferes again by warning him to not hurt her sister. Dean tells Roxy about this but is annoyed when she defends her sister. Finally snapping, Dean leaves Roxy stunned by revealing that Ronnie has been spying on her via a hidden CCTV camera.
Elsewhere, with Pam still away, a guilty Paul does his best to look after Les.
Airs Friday, Aug 14 2015 at 20:00 BST on BBC One
With her world falling apart, Jane finally realises what she needs to do to save her family. She puts her plan into motion, but how will Ian react when he finds out what she is up to?
Meanwhile, Carol struggles to come to terms with recent events.
Elsewhere, Roxy reels from her discovery.
Also today, Les remains angry at Paul. After losing his job at Blades, he calls Pam and desperately pleads with her to return home.
storyseeker1
04-08-2015, 12:45
Yes! We get to see more of psycho Bobby! This week sounds the best so far. Judging by the sounds of it, it seems Jane and Ian have switched roles. Originally it was she who was in denial over Bobby's attitude, and Ian was the one worried, but according to this it seems now he's the one in denial and she's accepted the truth. (Took her long enough!)
maidmarian
04-08-2015, 17:09
I love that idea, but if Liam does confess I think his prime motivation would be Cindy. He's been in love with her for a long time, and has shown time and time again that he's willing to sacrifice himself for her. What better way to prove his love than to sacrifice himself to protect her secret? :heart:
No, it doesn't seem as if the Bobby story is going to be as long-term as I hoped from the above spoilers. I suppose, realistically, DTC is going to want to complete this story during his tenure. He's been EP for going on two years now, and they often don't stay longer than that.
However the story finally ends, the ramifications will be felt within the Beale family for years, that's for sure! :eek:
Yeah, there's no way they can go as extreme as the truly evil Kevin in the above film (I didn't make it until the end as I found it too disturbing, but I think he eventually went on the rampage and gunned down some schoolkids). I'd say DTC was inspired by the film rather than the Bobby story being a direct copy.
Just a small point of info Dazzle re "Kevin"
I was looking through some old spoilers for
ED( which I know you dont watch)
In the thread Chrissie White Sudgen there is
a very long interview dated March 2015with
the Actress who plays the part ( Louise Marwood).
In it she is musing on the problems of
dealing with her son Lachlan and mentions
she wonders if it could be a " We need to
talk about Kevin" issue. The producer isn't
mentioned but would usually have some input
into publicity for such a big new story .**
So all we need is S Blackburn to have a
"Kevin" moment and we have a hat-trick.!!
New soap ideas anyone!!
** The big story was his serious sexual assault
(.as a minor child) on.an adult women.
The character had been in trouble before the
family arrived in ED. He will shortly be tampering
with his grandads meds in order to frame
his step- father as the potential "murderer/
assailant"!!
I thought Lachlan was tampering with Lawrence´s medication to frame Robert so Robert leaves Emmerdale after all the upset he has caused ...?? Why would he want to kill his grandfather?
maidmarian
04-08-2015, 18:27
I thought Lachlan was tampering with Lawrence´s medication to frame Robert so Robert leaves Emmerdale after all the upset he has caused ...?? Why would he want to kill his grandfather?
No.I dont know if Lachlan does actually WANt to
murder his grandfather and yes he does want
rid of Robert.He has a very strange personality
tho.
But messing with meds particularly of an"older"
person is a dangerous thing to do and can
have very serious consequences inc death.
Lachlan doesnt seem to me to be much of a
thinker or detailed planner.Just does what
occurs to him !
When I put murderer -it was to cover all likely
outcomes and if Robert was suspected-
Lachlan would probably think it a bonus!
And per latest spoilers the plan doesnt work
anyway??
maidmarian
04-08-2015, 18:27
Dupl
Bobby Beale's anger is unleashed yet again on EastEnders tonight (August 10) as he lashes out at Cindy Williams.
The troubled youngster doesn't react well when Cindy tries to discipline him following more bad behaviour.
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Bobby lashes out at Cindy
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Bobby lashes out at Cindy
An argument between the pair flares up when Cindy finds Bobby (Elliot Carrington) about to put a brick through Max Branning's car window.
Bobby is under the mistaken impression that Max killed his half-sister Lucy and wants revenge, still unaware of his own guilt in the tragic murder case.
Cindy tries to get Bobby back in line by grabbing him and dragging him home, but the youngster fights back by pushing her over.
The argument marks the beginning of a huge week for the Beales, which will see them become divided over Bobby's behaviour and the ongoing murder cover-up. Is it time for the family's dark secret to be revealed?
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Cindy takes a tumble when Bobby goes too far
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Cindy takes a tumble when Bobby goes too far
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Bobby's bad behaviour will concern his family
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Bobby's bad behaviour will concern his family
EastEnders airs these scenes tonight (August 10) at 8pm on BBC One.
Ronnie Mitchell's CCTV secret is exposed by Dean Wicks in EastEnders tonight (August 13).
New pictures show the moment that Ronnie's recent paranoia is revealed to her sister Roxy (Rita Simons) as tensions run high.
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Dean reveals Ronnie's secret spycam
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Dean reveals Ronnie's secret spycam
Tonight's episode sees Ronnie (Samantha Womack) force Roxy to come clean about how she is still seeing Dean, sparking a huge argument between them.
Fearful of pushing her too far, Ronnie is eventually forced to apologise to Roxy and invite Dean (Matt Di Angelo) over for dinner as a peace offering.
Roxy is delighted that Ronnie seems to be making an effort at last, but Dean sees that it's nothing more than a front when Ronnie privately warns him not to hurt her sister.
Dean is livid when he reports back to Roxy and she defends Ronnie, so he plays his ace card by telling her that Ronnie has been using a spycam to keep watch on her. Will this cause a rift between the Mitchell sisters?
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Roxy is shocked by Ronnie's behaviour
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Roxy is shocked by Ronnie's behaviour
EastEnders airs tonight at 7.30pm on BBC One.
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storyseeker1
13-08-2015, 06:40
Seriously, what does it take to get Ian and Jane to see the truth and accept what needs to be done?! Bobby's obviously a loose canon, and needs help. If he doesn't get it, he's just gonna get worse.
I'm amazed Ian doesn't take this seriously, as he went through kinda the same thing with Bobby's brother, Steven. They didn't see the signs soon enough, and he went loony as he got older.
I recall there's a psychological condition I once heard about, but I can't remember what it's called. It's basically where a person has a moment of utter violence, and then seemingly has no memory of it afterwards. The violent mood swings seem to come and go randomly. I wonder if that's what Bobby has. Certainly sounds like it.
<Will this cause a rift between the Mitchell sisters?>
Duh! Finding out your sister's been spying on you with cameras...that would cause a rift with anyone!
I recall there's a psychological condition I once heard about, but I can't remember what it's called. It's basically where a person has a moment of utter violence, and then seemingly has no memory of it afterwards. The violent mood swings seem to come and go randomly. I wonder if that's what Bobby has. Certainly sounds like it.
That would have been a really interesting condition to give Bobby, but unfortunately it doesn't fit with what happened with Lucy. He does remember attacking her but Jane convinced him she got up and went out afterwards - which is why he doesn't appear to know he killed her.
storyseeker1
13-08-2015, 15:52
Found it! The condition is called Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED), a behavioral disorder characterized by explosive outbursts of anger/rage. Aggressive acts are frequently reported accompanied by a sensation of relief and in some cases pleasure, but often followed by later remorse.
Seems I was wrong about the amnesia part. As I said, it says people with this condition feel remorse and such afterwards. Though I suppose there are people who after experiencing true remorse might block the memories of the incident.
Found it! The condition is called Intermittent Explosive Disorder (IED), a behavioral disorder characterized by explosive outbursts of anger/rage. Aggressive acts are frequently reported accompanied by a sensation of relief and in some cases pleasure, but often followed by later remorse.
Seems I was wrong about the amnesia part. As I said, it says people with this condition feel remorse and such afterwards. Though I suppose there are people who after experiencing true remorse might block the memories of the incident.
Yes, IED would fit Bobby perfectly. Good thinking! :)
storyseeker1
13-08-2015, 21:10
I have mixed feelings about tonight's episode. On the one hand I still can't believe Liam is selling out his own uncle for a crime he didn't commit (I still think Max is a jerk, but he doesn't deserve to go down for a crime he didn't do). Then again, after watching the scene where Ian manipulated them all, I can understand why he did. Ian certainly played them. I know he's only doing it to save his son, which I imagine any parent would do, but I couldn't help thinking what a scum he was tonight. Part of me was also gleeful watching as Liam demanded 100K from him, yet at the same time still feeling disgusted that Liam would send Max down.
I've been having a re-think again about Ian's upcoming suicide attempt in October. I thought maybe Bobby would get found out and Ian, so remorseful at having failed him, tries to jump. But I'm starting to wonder if that isn't the case. The news said that all the lies makes Ian reach boiling point, which could mean he's either still lying, or Bobby gets found out and he's dealing with the outcome. Since Liam is now blackmailing Ian, that'll definitely add to the pressure. (Does Ian even have 100K? Wasn't his businesses in trouble?) Getting the money together, then having to deal with the business outcome, and covering up for Bobby...that would certainly make anyone go looney. And Ian had a breakdown with intensive therapy not too long ago.
I know he's only doing it to save his son, which I imagine any parent would do, but I couldn't help thinking what a scum he was tonight.
Although a parent's first instinct is to protect their child, I don't think many would go as far as allowing someone innocent to be convicted to a life sentence.
Part of me was also gleeful watching as Liam demanded 100K from him, yet at the same time still feeling disgusted that Liam would send Max down.
I enjoyed Liam's blackmail demand too. Ian seriously underestimated him! :D
At the moment, Liam's love for Cindy is overriding his feelings for Carol and Max. Whether he'll be able to go through with it is another matter. :searchme:
storyseeker1
15-08-2015, 02:38
At the beginning of tonight's episode, Ian's arrogance truly astounded me. It's beyond pride and close to pure stupidity. I was disappointed when Liam and Cindy chose to just leave and not blackmail him. I was hoping they'd take him for all he's got. Though I did enjoy the ending, where Jane told Ian that they'd leave or he can be on his own. Personally I think they'd all be better off without him, though I have to say Jane was acting a little freaky. I wonder if she's finally gone round the twist?
Roxy was acting like an idiot again. Why is it she always goes for the psychos?
At the beginning of tonight's episode, Ian's arrogance truly astounded me. It's beyond pride and close to pure stupidity. I was disappointed when Liam and Cindy chose to just leave and not blackmail him. I was hoping they'd take him for all he's got. Though I did enjoy the ending, where Jane told Ian that they'd leave or he can be on his own. Personally I think they'd all be better off without him, though I have to say Jane was acting a little freaky. I wonder if she's finally gone round the twist?
I think Jane and Ian's reactions are being laid on a bit thick now and getting totally unbelievable. I suppose stress will make people unpredictable, but Ian doesn't appear to be very worried - unlike Jane.
Like you, I was disappointed Liam dropped the idea of blackmail because Ian deserves a taste of his own medicine.
Roxy was acting like an idiot again. Why is it she always goes for the psychos?
I thought it was quite a clever bit of writing when Ronnie compared Dean to Archie and Carl. It's true to character that Roxy keeps falling for men like her beloved father. She refuses to see them for what they really are. :wall:
storyseeker1
15-08-2015, 05:26
<I think Jane and Ian's reactions are being laid on a bit thick now and getting totally unbelievable. I suppose stress will make people unpredictable, but Ian doesn't appear to be very worried - unlike Jane.>
Perhaps, but then again Ian has always been the arrogant/stupid type. He believes he's the big boss, and he has a tendency to not see the big problems right in front of him. Case in point: Bobby. All the problems with him are right there, yet Ian refuses to see them. Knowing him, he probably thinks this is something that Bobby will 'grow out of'.
Jane's reaction is actually more believable. All the stress and everything is obviously sending her round the bend. With this in mind, no matter how hard they try, realistically they won't be able to keep their secret for long. The secret (and deep fear they have but won't admit of Bobby) will gradually eat away at them.
As for Ian, don't forget that he's meant to try suicide in October, so obviously either something is gonna happen between now and then, or the stress starts eating away at him, too. Plus, there's supposed to be someone else who finds out the truth before long, so that'll add more stress. Eventually it'll come to the point where even Ian won't be able to hide from it. He's set himself up high above everyone else with his arrogance, looking down on everyone. The problem with that strategy, though, is that the higher you climb, the bigger the fall. And something tells me, Ian is gonna come down hard.
Tbh, I think Roxy needs constant surveillance. Everytime she tries doing something for herself, she ends up in bed with a psycho or worse. And the only time when she ever got a good man was Alfie, and even a blind person could tell that he was really still in love with Kat all that time! I hate to say it, but the poor woman's hopeless!
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