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EastEnders is pursuing a cystic fibrosis storyline after Shirley Carter tracked down her granddaughter Jade on tonight's episode (June 12).
Jade, who is the daughter of Shabnam Masood and Dean Wicks and is living in foster care, was seen using a nebuliser.
The Cystic Fibrosis Trust have confirmed that the character has cystic fibrosis, revealing on Twitter that they are working with the soap on the storyline.
The trust posted: "There will be more of Jade beyond CF Week, don't worry. Can't reveal too much and give spoilers though."
They added: "Yep. We've been working hard with excellent @bbceastenders team on this, and grateful to them for this opportunity!"
EastEnders airs on BBC One.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a652688/eastenders-confirms-cystic-fibrosis-storyline-after-shirley-carter-finds-granddaughter.html#~pfsFAIEOSpCugu
I suppose we are now supposed to feel sorry for the rapist. Not happening. It'll be all "I had no idea Shabnam was a CF carrier." He'll act all hard done by and if he didn't go around having casual flings (at best) he could have had his partner tested and known in advance whether any children were at risk or not.
if shabham is the cf carrier should other massod kids also have it, im confused by how jade has cf if dean isn't a carrier of the gene
maidmarian
14-06-2015, 12:41
if shabham is the cf carrier should other massod kids also have it, im confused by how jade has cf if dean isn't a carrier of the gene
Are we 100% certain Masood is Shabnams
father? If he is the others Masood children
could also be carriers -but unaware.
maidmarian
14-06-2015, 12:41
if shabham is the cf carrier should other massod kids also have it, im confused by how jade has cf if dean isn't a carrier of the gene
Are we 100% certain Masood is Shabnams
father? If he is the others Masood children
could also be carriers -but unaware.
parkerman
14-06-2015, 13:16
if shabham is the cf carrier should other massod kids also have it, im confused by how jade has cf if dean isn't a carrier of the gene
Other Masood children are not necessarily carriers, but they may be. The odds are that of four children born to parents who have the defective gene, two will be carriers, one will inherit nothing and one will get cf, though, of course, any combination could occur and none of the masood children have cf.
If Dean is Jade's father he is a carrier, it cannot be otherwise.
I don't think there has ever been a doubt that Masood is Shabnam's father ...
shirley said dean's tests were clear as he was tested when jimbob was sick, she gave mick dean's blood group
also carly had a kid and no mention of cf and denise and shirley are in contact with her
shirley said dean's tests were clear as he was tested when jimbob was sick, she gave mick dean's blood group
also carly had a kid and no mention of cf and denise and shirley are in contact with her
maidmarian
14-06-2015, 14:17
I don't think there has ever been a doubt that Masood is Shabnam's father ...
I got the impression Zainab had been
a rather flighty in her younger days.
Obviously wrongly?!
maidmarian
14-06-2015, 14:17
I don't think there has ever been a doubt that Masood is Shabnam's father ...
I got the impression Zainab had been
a rather flighty in her younger days.
Obviously wrongly?!
parkerman
14-06-2015, 14:56
shirley said dean's tests were clear as he was tested when jimbob was sick, she gave mick dean's blood group
also carly had a kid and no mention of cf and denise and shirley are in contact with her
If Dean is Jade's father he MUST carry the cf defective gene. Carly may well not have it as I explained above but Dean has to have it if he is Jade's father. Either the test results were wrong or he is not Jade's father. All of which means either that Shabnam had sex with someone else or Jade is not Shabnam's daughter either.
if shabham is the cf carrier should other massod kids also have it, im confused by how jade has cf if dean isn't a carrier of the gene
Dean and Shabnam are both carriers, you need two carriers to have any chance of having a CF child and even then the risk is only 25% - James Forde's sister has CF but he doesn't. Obviously the odds would be different where one parent actually has CF and the other is a carrier (50% CF/50% carrier) or where one parent has CF and the other is unaffected (100% carrier,) due to the different number of faulty genes involved and who has them (a parent with CF has two faulty genes but will only pass one to the child.)
Either Masood or Zainab is a carrier, both could be but probably not. As Parkerman has said, if both Masood parents were carriers, by the law of averages, one of their children would have had CF. Dean knows that he's a carrier unless he hasn't read his test results or has been lied to. If he just hasn't read them, he should suspect he might be a carrier as his brother had CF so he knows (if he took time to understand the disease) there's a faulty gene in the family. The Masoods are probably completely unaware. A carrier has no symptoms and it's probably not something they think about unless they have a relative with CF. If we assume as I said above that one (say Zainab) is a carrier but the other isn't, then then their odds were 50% for a carrier or 50% unaffected, since it only depends on whether Zainab passes her faulty gene to the child. They could not have had a CF child.
By Dean being all clear it was probably lazy scripting and they meant he didn't have CF. He has the gene but it may have been completely impossible for him to have CF, since Jimbo was only his half brother. Shirley is a carrier as is Kevin, Buster (and Daniel) may not be. Carly mentioned that her son had been tested and didn't have CF, but we don't know whether that was impossible (Carly not a carrier or she is a carrier and the baby's father isn't) or just luck (the 75% chance two carriers have of having a child that doesn't have CF.)
If Dean is Jade's father he MUST carry the cf defective gene. Carly may well not have it as I explained above but Dean has to have it if he is Jade's father. Either the test results were wrong or he is not Jade's father. All of which means either that Shabnam had sex with someone else or Jade is not Shabnam's daughter either.
Exactly this.
Dean is a carrier. If Shabnam wanted to lie about the father of her child, she wouldn't choose a rapist (unless of course she suddenly wanted to tell the family that she had this child and thought they'd assume rape so she'd get less backlash.) In this case Shabnam wanted the child to remain secret, so she wouldn't lie.
I got the impression Zainab had been
a rather flighty in her younger days.
Obviously wrongly?!
Zainab cheated on Yusef (who she was married to first) with Masood. It brought shame on the family and Yusef tried to burn her alive when he found out. She should have some scarring and I'd imagine these factors would make her not want to cheat again (she may feel embarrassed about her body, in addition to the shame in their faith that she has first hand experience of.) There has never been a suggestion that I can recall that she was unfaithful again.
dtc should read soapboards to help make his scripts accurate
I got the impression Zainab had been
a rather flighty in her younger days.
Obviously wrongly?!
She had an affair with Masood when married to her abusive first husband Yusef (who she then remarried years later!!!). There's been no suggestion there were any other men though - or that Masood isn't the father of any of her kids.
tammyy2j
14-06-2015, 21:13
I think Masood is the father of all Zainab's kids and I hope he is, as Kim as said already above I think only Yusef and Masood were the only two men Zainab was ever with
Zainab would want to return to see her grandchild has Masood told her yet?
I didn't know Cystic Fibrosis was hereditary :o I hope the show don't change past occurrences again for this storyline
I've just realised I wrote nearly exactly the same answer to MaidMarian's question as Kim did earlier. I don't know how I missed that... :o
I've just had a look at the episode where Shirley finds Dean's blood tests and all she says is \"You had a load of tests done after Jimbo died\" (see here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFTSas1D7k) at about 7.55). It was probably kept very vague deliberately so the writers didn't paint themselves into a corner.
I don't mind the subtle retconning of Shirley's backstory. It was invented when she was a one-dimensional villain brought in to stir up the Wicks family. There was no way to know what a successful character she'd become, or that a future producer would want to thoroughly delve into her backstory. The changes add to the character and to the story in my opinion.
I'm sure giving Jade CF is being done at least partially to redeem Shirley for abandoning Jimbo when he was dying - which I'm not against at all. I always liked Shirley as a character up until the rape storyline. She was thoroughly nasty at times but Linda Henry's talents as an actress meant there was always more to Shirley than was written in the script.
apologies as i assumed dean's tests were clear
I've just had a look at the episode where Shirley finds Dean's blood tests and all she says is \"You had a load of tests done after Jimbo died\" (see here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFTSas1D7k) at about 7.55). It was probably kept very vague deliberately so the writers didn't paint themselves into a corner.
I don't mind the subtle retconning of Shirley's backstory. It was invented when she was a one-dimensional villain brought in to stir up the Wicks family. There was no way to know what a successful character she'd become, or that a future producer would want to thoroughly delve into her backstory. The changes add to the character and to the story in my opinion.
I'm sure giving Jade CF is being done at least partially to redeem Shirley for abandoning Jimbo when he was dying - which I'm not against at all. I always liked Shirley as a character up until the rape storyline. She was thoroughly nasty at times but Linda Henry's talents as an actress meant there was always more to Shirley than was written in the script.
apologies as i assumed dean's tests were clear
The CF Trust have tweeted a family tree to explain how the condition is inherited. Someone (be it them or the people they've been working with at EE) are poor when it comes to the details. They claim that Jimbo Wicks died in the 1990's, but he actually died in April 2001. Carly and Dean were in a car crash on the 5th anniversary, as Dean had been behaving erratically and was driving as such.
Doesn't exactly encourage optimism.
maidmarian
18-06-2015, 23:07
The CF Trust have tweeted a family tree to explain how the condition is inherited. Someone (be it them or the people they've been working with at EE) are poor when it comes to the details. They claim that Jimbo Wicks died in the 1990's, but he actually died in April 2001. Carly and Dean were in a car crash on the 5th anniversary, as Dean had been behaving erratically and was driving as such.
Doesn't exactly encourage optimism.
No-it doesnt. I suppose this is an occasion
when Id prefer the soap writers to be
"inaccurate" rather than a charity that
is raising awareness of a very serious
illness.
Though suppose facts about dates aren't
as important as correct info about CF!
maidmarian
18-06-2015, 23:07
Dupl
how could that shaddy looking dude be allowed to foster a kid with cf, is he single, some many loopholes in the plot
maidmarian
19-06-2015, 00:44
how could that shaddy looking dude be allowed to foster a kid with cf, is he single, some many loopholes in the plot
Well.unless there are some facts we don't
know yet( possibly havent been concocted
yet) it does look very "inappropriate".
But is probably just to have someone who
makes Dean look better-in comparision.
maidmarian
19-06-2015, 00:44
Dupl
storyseeker1
19-06-2015, 02:12
I believe in giving everyone the benefit of the doubt, but considering Jade's foster dad was willing to take money to let a stranger in and take Jade's hair instead of going through the official channels... it doesn't inspire confidence, does it? Then again, they are only asking for some hair, not blood or anything, and it looks like the guy could use the cash.
CF is genetic, which means anyone in the same family is possible of getting the disease. The percentage rate of catching it gets slimmer with each generation, but even if no one catches it in a few generations there's always still a chance. Genetics are funny that way.
At least because they wanted to introduce the child into the show, they thought to write the story so that she'd only been fostered rather than adopted. The story they concocted to get Rebecca back after her adoption was ridiculous.
Re: Jade's shady and single-looking foster dad, are we supposed to think that because the child is CF, there wasn't a queue of people willing to take her on? Life expectancy is reduced after all so the families may well be setting themselves up for heartbreak. It's always possible I suppose that his partner has either left or died and he hasn't informed the authorities as he fears he would be deemed unsuitable to continue to care for Jade. In this case the household is presumably an income down also.
These things should be spelt out on screen instead of us having to assume them.
CF is genetic, which means anyone in the same family is possible of getting the disease. The percentage rate of catching it gets slimmer with each generation, but even if no one catches it in a few generations there's always still a chance. Genetics are funny that way.
I am not sure about this....? you dont 'catch' a genetic condition? and the gene is passed from generation to generation so it doesnt get slimmer? unless you vet the gene pool and dont allow two CF carriers to have children with each other??
storyseeker1
19-06-2015, 15:08
I am not sure about this....? you dont 'catch' a genetic condition? and the gene is passed from generation to generation so it doesnt get slimmer? unless you vet the gene pool and dont allow two CF carriers to have children with each other??
That was just a figure of expression. I mean catch, as in born with it. And slimmer, as in the chances of being born with it become less likely with every passing generation unless, like you said, somewhere along the line 2 parents, who both happen to have the CF gene, meet and have kids. But even if only one parent has the gene, there is always a possibility, however remote, that their kids could be born with the condition. When I was in college, I did an assignment about genetics, and I remember reading a book about albinos. It described a couple who were both albino, so reason would say that all their kids would be born albino, too. However, the book said the couple had at least 1 child who was not albino for some reason.
parkerman
19-06-2015, 17:12
Both parents have to have the cf gene for the baby to have cf. If only one parent has the gene it can be passed on and the child could be a carrier but cannot have cf.
storyseeker1
20-06-2015, 02:23
Just watched a clip for the next ep. Jade's full name is Jade Green. Funny name.
Just watched a clip for the next ep. Jade's full name is Jade Green. Funny name.
It seems familiar. Wasn't that the name of the woman Lucas strangled in 2010?
Wonder where the Green part came in? Her foster father is Malnet. Are we going to have some story that the original adoptive parents gave her up when they found out she had CF?
parkerman
20-06-2015, 10:03
Whatever the reason I expect DTC will have Dean come in as the hero to save the little girl and everyone will say how wonderful he is.
storyseeker1
20-06-2015, 11:11
It seems familiar. Wasn't that the name of the woman Lucas strangled in 2010?
Wonder where the Green part came in? Her foster father is Malnet. Are we going to have some story that the original adoptive parents gave her up when they found out she had CF?
Can't remember. I know Lucas killed his ex-wife, then a prostitute, but I don't recall her name.
Well, social services obviously had to give her a name since she was abandoned. Green is probably one of the most common names used, along with Brown, Jones, Smith etc. Plus, Jade is a 'green' stone, which is probably why.
A pity she isn't a triplet, then they could have called her sisters, Ruby Red and Sapphire Blue.
when is shirley going to tell masood and shabham the kid has cf, is jade dying to be dean's "punishment" ?
storyseeker1
26-06-2015, 23:21
Just watched the ep. You can tell Jade is Shirley's granddaughter, as she's got just as big a mouth and fierceness as her gran.
I liked the way the writers introduced her to her mother Shabs, though it is still sad. I was a bit shocked at how Shabs said she didn't feel nothing towards her, but then again she had just been a victim of a hate crime. That sort of trauma can mess anyone up.
Dean has certainly changed his tune a number of times. One moment he's planning to be the best dad to Jade, next he decided to have nothing to do with her, then he decides to meet her and maybe try, and then he goes right back to having nothing to do with her. What a spineless ass he is! He really is just a big kid, despite his age! Jade actually seemed the more mature of the two of them. I felt so sorry for her when she overheard him and Shirl talking about Jimbo and everything. I don't blame Jonathan, as I think he's right. It would be suicide sending Jade to live with them.
I liked the way the writers introduced her to her mother Shabs, though it is still sad. I was a bit shocked at how Shabs said she didn't feel nothing towards her, but then again she had just been a victim of a hate crime. That sort of trauma can mess anyone up.
I think you're right that Shabnam was in shock at the time. She'd already agreed to meet Jade so she definitely has feelings for her. However, I think she's buried those feelings for so long they're not going to be easy to recover.
I'm not pleased that she's pregnant because I fear it'll get in the way of her reconnecting with Jade. :(
storyseeker1
27-06-2015, 22:33
I think you're right that Shabnam was in shock at the time. She'd already agreed to meet Jade so she definitely has feelings for her. However, I think she's buried those feelings for so long they're not going to be easy to recover.
I'm not pleased that she's pregnant because I fear it'll get in the way of her reconnecting with Jade. :(
True, and the fact that Jade appeared at the same time after her attack has probably messed about with her head, too. She said "she's haunting me". She's obviously not thinking straight, and this pregnancy isn't going to help matters either, especially since she and Kush are not married yet etc.
https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/a46012494/eastenders-spoilers-dean-wicks-daughter-jade-return/
EastEnders reintroduces Dean Wicks and Shabnam Masood's daughter Jade later this month.
Elizabeth Green has been cast in the role of Jade, who was portrayed by Amaya Edward in her previous appearances on the show in 2015 and 2016.
In scenes airing later this month, Jade returns to Albert Square and befriends Gina Knight at the Queen Vic.
When Dean arrives, Jade decides to visit the grave of Shabnam's son Zaair. She then reflects on her own prognosis, following the recent revelation on screen that she's unwell and needs a life-saving lung transplant.
Jade initially rejects Dean's attempts to comfort her, but when she chats to Gina on the topic of absent parents, she decides that it's time to give her father a chance.
Later in the week, Dean continues to cruelly torment Linda Carter by sending her a photo which shows him posing with her young son Ollie. He crosses paths with the schoolboy when Ollie visits a newly-launched Christmas grotto at Beale's Eels.
Linda is appalled to see the picture and heads over to the grotto to confront Dean.
Having been pushed to breaking point by Dean's vile behaviour, Linda speaks her mind and is backed up by Keanu Taylor, who tells Jade that her father is a dangerous sexual predator.
Jade is disgusted by the revelation and chooses to leave the Square again, seemingly wanting nothing to do with Dean.
Later, Dean returns to The Vic and interrupts a community choir event as he confronts Linda. What does he have planned?
EastEnders airs these scenes in the week commencing Monday, December 11.
If you've been affected by the issues raised in this story, you can access more information from Rape Crisis England and Wales, who work towards the elimination of all forms of sexual violence and sexual misconduct, on their website or by calling the National Rape Crisis Helpline on 0808 802 9999. Rape Crisis Scotland?s helpline number is 08088 01 03 02.
what now for jade with shabnam in Pakistan with zainab and dean arrested
Zainab arrested?
no zainab is sick in Pakistan which is why shabnam moved there
only dean arrested
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