View Full Version : Does Bradley kill Archie?
sean slater
18-12-2009, 02:56
My god! have you seen the ad for xmas, Bradley asks Stacey 'who did this to you?' and its trying to make it seem like Archie raped her and got her pregnant. Other forums are speculating. But I dont get it! If this did happen, it still doesnt prove that Archie's the dad, as Stacey said herself she's slept with loads of men around the same time.
It would be an absolute shocker if Bradley murdered him and he went to prison. I mean oh my god! it just seems unbelievable. But then I think it would enjoy it cos Bradley would be going out because of a crime of passion for Stacey. mmm...
I think it would enjoy it cos Bradley would be going out because of a crime of passion for Stacey. mmm...
Yeah, the trailer is definitely setting up Bradley as a suspect in Archie's murder. This is the link for anyone who hasn't seen it:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4xD1e1NgU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4xD1e1NgU
It would be a great exit for him and it would be satisfying (but sad) for us fans too. It would also be possible for Charlie Clements to return to EE in the future, which would be fantastic. :)
Stacey has had a few run-ins with Archie and was scared of him, so this is a possible plot, though I never saw Archie as a rapist. Also, like you said, how is Stacey going to know who the father is when she confessed to sleeping with so many men when ill?
Why does Bradley say "who did this to you?" :hmm:
I hope that there are no spoilers for Bradley's exit and that it comes as a complete shock, whatever the storyline (though I won't be able to resist reading any spoilers if they emerge!).
I think you need to emigrate to some remote African country to avoid any spoilers about Bradley's exit :lol:
ooo this would be an interesting twist! they did say bradleys exit would be part of the 25th anniversay episode, as is the reveal of archie's killer! good thinking Sherlock!
I think you need to emigrate to some remote African country to avoid any spoilers about Bradley's exit :lol:
:rotfl: I think you're probably right! :hmm:
We know Archie scared her, and hurt her maybe she thinks he raped her and Bradley does kill him.. that is a great exit... he doesn't abandon Stacey and still can come back
tammyy2j
18-12-2009, 14:31
Well both Peggy and Bradley are leaving around February/March so maybe?????
I see that Phil is back on the drink.. :rolleyes:
I suppose with what he has to cope with, Archie chucking him out of his pub, I am not surprised he is back on the bottle.
Chris_2k11
18-12-2009, 20:04
Not keen on this years trailer, they've had better than that
Well both Peggy and Bradley are leaving around February/March so maybe?????
Yes, I think it's most likely to be Peggy that kills him. After all, it was her who wanted Archie dead last time - maybe this time she'll take matters into her own hands? She's the one who'll hate him the most for taking her beloved Vic.
parkerman
19-12-2009, 14:03
The Daily Mirror today says that immediately there are seven obvious suspects - Peggy, Phil, Ronnie, Roxy, Jack, Janine and Ian - but later two others suspects emerge...it's looking more and more like Bradley! :ninja:
That could explain his exit, perhaps Peggy is his accomplice and she only gets two years jail, that is why she can be back a couple of years after her going, like she appears to have planned :hmm:
they should do a prison show spin off of Peggy in the nick. "gerrroutta my cell, go on sling your hook!" fighting to be top dog haha :D
:rotfl: That would be hilarious! :rotfl:
Isnt Sam also suppose to be a suspect or is that a soap magazine having false information again :rolleyes:
Not heard/read anywhere of Sam coming back again so I think that might be false information. I am sure we would know by now if she was.
Chloe O'brien
19-12-2009, 22:25
They'll need to bring back Grunt to do it. They can't trust Phil to kill Archie he bottled it last time. Got more chance of Ben killing him.
Not keen on this years trailer, they've had better than that
Really?
cos this trailer gives me chills!
sean slater
20-12-2009, 02:11
I really dont get why bradley says to stacey 'who did this to you' its such a stupid thing to say, especially in the way he says it like she's a victim. And he wouldnt assume she was a victim, he'd just assume that she'd slept with somebody, its not out of character.
Would Archie really have raped Stacey?
I know he is a villian but i cant really see that happening
I guess the reason why Bradley says "who did this to you?" is something that will be revealed at Christmas. Stacey must be the victim of some crime for it to make sense, although I can't believe that Archie is a rapist either.
There's got to be more to it than just Stacey revealing she's pregnant.
LostVoodoo
21-12-2009, 11:42
maybe Archie hits her?
JustJodi
21-12-2009, 23:42
They'll need to bring back Grunt to do it. They can't trust Phil to kill Archie he bottled it last time. Got more chance of Ben killing him.
YEAAAAAAAAAAA Grunt:wub: ........ Phil is turning into a kitty kat :rotfl: Ben might turn out to be a real MITCHELL man and start beating people up :rolleyes: :D
JustJodi
21-12-2009, 23:44
The Daily Mirror today says that immediately there are seven obvious suspects - Peggy, Phil, Ronnie, Roxy, Jack, Janine and Ian - but later two others suspects emerge...it's looking more and more like Bradley! :ninja:
Has any one forgotten some one,,,, Ronnie and Roxy's mom ??? she could be the mystrery suspect :hmm: :searchme: :ninja:
Oh, is she suppose to be joining?
sean slater
23-12-2009, 16:56
I read on another board that the pictures of Archie's funeral show Stacey spitting on his grave and then Bradley pulls her away? Strange turn of events. But if Bradley did it I cant see him turning up at his funeral, I dont think he's got that kind of guts. He would have a guilty conscience, he'd probably confess straight away.
sean slater
26-12-2009, 02:23
Looks like Bradley killed Archie! he seemed to have the most anger inside of him. The most likely suspect to have pushed the bust on top of him, its a very easy way of killing someone without getting your hands dirty, and he showed earlier that he wasnt very good at hitting people. Although that punch was brill! lol. great right hook Bradley :) Bradley is clever, he could come up with something like that.
Phil was too drunk and he would shout abuse at him rather than throw a bust at him lol. He was too drunk to be that calculated.
The thing with Bradley would have been instant. He comes out angry and upset, the thought of Stacey and Archie turning his stomach, suddenly thinks have to finish him off once and for all. Goes back into finish the job lol. Brilliant!!
Isnt Sam also suppose to be a suspect or is that a soap magazine having false information again :rolleyes:
She's back and now knows what Archie did she i'd say she too is a suspect
I cant see it being Bradley but he will probably be arrested after Ronnie as obviously his dna/skin/blood will be on Archie's face since he punched him
I also add maybe Ian and Ryan as suspects
parkerman
26-12-2009, 16:56
It can't possibly be Ian,unless he's allowed to get away with it. I can't see him leaving Eastenders in the near future.
Bradley and Peggy on the other hand...
sean slater
26-12-2009, 18:15
Wonder how long it will take for the police to start looking at Bradley. He's the last person they'd think of going to. DCI Marsden always has it in for Phil and most of the Mitchell family, so bet they'll interrogate them for agesss. They'd have to test the blood on the bar against Bradley's for them to know anything. Will everyone on the square have random blood tests lol.
hayleylewis
27-12-2009, 10:48
there is a strong possibility it may b sam after all no1 is gonna tell the police she is bk and she has form 4 murders in the vic lol and peggy bein the doting mum would take the rap for her ......
DaVeyWaVey
27-12-2009, 11:50
I don't think it's Bradley. He is no murderer. I would feel let down if he was the murderer, as it just isn't in his character and isn't the Bradley that viewers have grown to know.
inkyskin
27-12-2009, 16:46
the way i see it is,think of the person least likely to kill archie...and that's who it is! :thumbsup:
DaVeyWaVey
28-12-2009, 14:42
the way i see it is,think of the person least likely to kill archie...and that's who it is! :thumbsup:
Or it's reverse psychology. The writers could be bluffing us and the person who killed Archie is the most obvious person to have done it - Ronnie.
sean slater
28-12-2009, 16:13
I would put a bet on Bradley. He's leaving around the same time the murderer is revealed. Archie was killed by a bust being pushed onto his head, thats the way Bradley would do it cos he's not a violent person. And he loves Stacey sooo much.
I would put a bet on Bradley. He's leaving around the same time the murderer is revealed. Archie was killed by a bust being pushed onto his head, thats the way Bradley would do it cos he's not a violent person. And he loves Stacey sooo much.
that made me laugh, you think smashing a metal bust into someone's skull isn't violent?
Archie was quite tall, the bust, I imagine, quite heavy. It probably was not Peggy, she is too small to reach up that high
I know the writer's like to change the characters but I can't see Bradley coming back after hitting Archie. He's isn't the type to be sneaky like that. He does have a very good motive, though.
I do think it's probably going to be Bradley or Peggy because they're both leaving at the right time, although they wouldn't be my first suspects.
sindydoll
30-12-2009, 11:30
i think its bradley! and he is leaving soon so its all quite fitting
i think its bradley! and he is leaving soon so its all quite fitting
But isn't peggy leaving soon too.. so could be her??
sindydoll
31-12-2009, 09:09
But isn't peggy leaving soon too.. so could be her??her reaction would of been different if it was her
her reaction would of been different if it was her
Ok.. didn't see reaction as I am just catching up on last week... :rotfl:
I can believe that Sam did it and Peggy will take the rap, giving her the exit storyline. Or Bradley, can't see it having been anybode else. Mind you, I am usually wrong in these kind of things :lol:
sindydoll
31-12-2009, 09:55
I can believe that Sam did it and Peggy will take the rap, giving her the exit storyline. Or Bradley, can't see it having been anybode else. Mind you, I am usually wrong in these kind of things :lol:
sam would let peggy take the rap! when do we find out?
sam would let peggy take the rap! when do we find out?
I think Valentines day we find out...
Is that the EE 25th anniversary date maybe?
sean slater
01-01-2010, 16:35
I think the anniversary is the 21st isnt it?!
parkerman
01-01-2010, 16:36
25th.
My son was born in the year it started and he will be 25 in July.
apparently the start date was 19 February 1985 so we'll find out 19th Feb I guess
walsh2509
02-01-2010, 13:08
Its Bradley for me ... The reason ..
The rape of Stacey by Archie would have been a massive story line , that there wasn't even a hint of it in the show seems strange to say the least. It as they say, has come right out of the blue, to me this rape story line has been made up as a reason for Bradley to go confront Archie. Iif Bradley had not been leaving the show , this stroy line would not have appeared. Seems to me they have just made this up because Bradley is leaving and it ties him into Archie, and as a reason for Bradley to suddenly go.
Bradley is just back , he's left his girlfriend and kid to come back to Stacey , they marry , then he suddenly leaves ... there is no reason for him to be out of the show, other than he's killed Archie.
PS. .. Peggy , yes she is leaving ..but not the killer for me ! she would have needed to stand on a chair and have someone hand her the statue to crack Archie over the head , otherwise she would not have reached :)
apparently the start date was 19 February 1985 so we'll find out 19th Feb I guess
Yes, the special live episode where the killer is revealed will be on 19th February.
As for Walsh2509's reasons for Bradley being the killer, they are definitely compelling and it is hard to think of any other reason why Bradley would leave Stacey again (apart from his death).
I personally don't think that murder is in Bradley's character, but EE producers don't mind changing people's personalities to fit in with a storyline.
I personally don't think that murder is in Bradley's character, but EE producers don't mind changing people's personalities to fit in with a storyline.
I don't think he meant to murder him.. just whack him and it got out of hand.. he is seeding with rage over what Archie did so who is to say what someone would do??
I don't think he meant to murder him.. just whack him and it got out of hand.. he is seeding with rage over what Archie did so who is to say what someone would do??
That's a definite possibility.
sindydoll
05-01-2010, 21:18
bradley the killer..i knew it
sindydoll
14-01-2010, 11:51
the killer will be revealed on a live episode on the 19th feb....live episode i dont understand????
That means the episode will not be pre-recorded and will be seen as they are acting it. Soaps used to be live when they were first shown, I believe. Interesting thought that the killer might become known to viewers but not the rest of the residents of Albert Square :hmm:
I think it is pretty interesting cause it is live.. they can't record a number of different endings, however they will have pre-recorded all the stuff that comes after it so we might still have spoilers.. but both Peggy and Bradley are leaving so it could be either of them.. I can't wait!!
Maybe its Stacey and Bradley takes the blame for her
sindydoll
14-01-2010, 12:17
That means the episode will not be pre-recorded and will be seen as they are acting it. Soaps used to be live when they were first shown, I believe. Interesting thought that the killer might become known to viewers but not the rest of the residents of Albert Square :hmm:
omg it could all go wrong
EastEnders' executive producer Diederick Santer has revealed that the cast member who plays Archie Mitchell's killer will not be informed until the night of the live episode.
The special instalment, which is to air on February 19, will see the resolution to the mystery which has surrounded Archie's death in recent weeks.
In an interview with This Morning, Santer confirmed that the killer's identity will remain top secret until then. He also said that he is planning to wait until the live episode is being broadcast before revealing all to the individual who plays the murderer.
He explained: "Viewers will discover in that episode who the killer was and the reason to watch this one is because it's going to have this amazing reveal, but also the real reason we are doing it is to absolutely keep it a secret until that time.
"Until that day, only six people will know who the killer is and that night, probably while we are transmitting the show, I will speak to the actor or actress and tell them that it's them."
On the logistics of the live episode, he added: "We would have rehearsed a number of endings, and we'll say to the cast and crew that we are 'doing ending number 3 now' or 'we are doing ending number 9' or whatever."
The climactic instalment is expected to be the highlight of the BBC soap's 25th anniversary celebrations.
DS
sindydoll
14-01-2010, 22:27
i think it's Bradley
well were not gonna find out until the live episode:( .... but im thinking glenda now
I am sure we will change our minds a few times over the next month :)
sindydoll
14-01-2010, 22:38
im sure we will we have been down this road before
Bradley is the obvious suspect now
That is why I think it is not him
parkerman
15-01-2010, 11:11
In an interview with This Morning, Santer confirmed that the killer's identity will remain top secret until then. He also said that he is planning to wait until the live episode is being broadcast before revealing all to the individual who plays the murderer.
He explained: "Viewers will discover in that episode who the killer was and the reason to watch this one is because it's going to have this amazing reveal, but also the real reason we are doing it is to absolutely keep it a secret until that time.
"Until that day, only six people will know who the killer is and that night, probably while we are transmitting the show, I will speak to the actor or actress and tell them that it's them."
On the logistics of the live episode, he added: "We would have rehearsed a number of endings, and we'll say to the cast and crew that we are 'doing ending number 3 now' or 'we are doing ending number 9' or whatever."
This is the thing I never understand about filming three different endings, or having several possible endings with the actors not knowing who, in this case, "killed Archie".
Surely they all have their scripts for future episodes, so they will know who did it from that. Filming takes place, what, two or three months in advance? So even now the actors must know how the storyline goes after 14 February, and they certainly will do by the time of the live episode.
Diederick Santer was on This Morning yesterday and he said that only at the beginning of the 'live' episode the actor or actress will be told that he or she is the murderer. They probably focus on other things in the episodes they are filming now, such as Bradley and Stacey and Janine and Ian and of course, Syed and Christian and Amira. Plenty to be getting on with
That is what I was thinking too Parkerman, unless they have mostly generic scripts and have recorded a number of scene with different actors to put in to the final cut... or they will re-record some stuff depending on who they choose..
parkerman
15-01-2010, 11:18
Diederick Santer was on This Morning yesterday and he said that only at the beginning of the 'live' episode the actor or actress will be told that he or she is the murderer. They probably focus on other things in the episodes they are filming now, such as Bradley and Stacey and Janine and Ian and of course, Syed and Christian and Amira. Plenty to be getting on with
But that's what I mean. If, for example, they are filming Bradley and Stacey stuff, they know it can't be Bradley who is the murderer.
Sometimes we don't see characters for quite a while or only briefly. Maybe that is what is happening with him until after the reveal
But that's what I mean. If, for example, they are filming Bradley and Stacey stuff, they know it can't be Bradley who is the murderer.
is it possilble that they are doing this stuff incase they decide Bradley is NOT the murderer... and then scrap it with re-recorded stuff..
That is why I think it is not him
I hope its not
I hope its not
I know lots are hoping it is not Bradley, but I hope it is so we can have a "better" end to him and Stacey instead of them splitting up again.. just wondering what everyone thinks would be a good exit for him?
I agree it would be the best end for Bradley and Stacey as a couple if he is the murderer. Even if he's not, I don't think they'll split up again - something else drastic will happen (like his death). That's what I'm hoping anyway. Anything but that they split up again. I'd rather Bradley not die or be the murderer, but I'd be more upset if he ups and leaves Stacey.
That is what quite a few of us on here think.
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