Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[Dazzle]

Nice scene between Phil and Jane. I always enjoy it when we get the occasional glimpse of a more sympathetic side of Phil. He'll be getting a reputation as the Wise Man of Walford if he's not careful!

I really don't know what got into Denise running around the square with Lucy's phone etc. Any remaining evidence isn't going to last long at that rate.

[lizann]

so ian just believes ben (who killed heather)

[monalisa62003]

Thank you Tammy!! A sensible comment on the subject at last!

But seriously, there's no way I'm ever going to believe Shirley and Phil are some great, romantic love story. Their totally dysfunctional relationship is not an equal partnership but one about Phil's dominance over Shirley. She's a very pathetic individual when she's chasing after him so desperately. Why would anyone want to see a favourite character brought so low?


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I believe in phil & shirley far more than i do phil & sharon / shirley & andy. Phil doesnt send thugs to scare shirley and lies to her about it. he struggles lying to her he could barely do the speech sharon wanted him to do. He hardly ever slags shirley off behind her back it was only over the wedding stuff he did then he went back on his word to sharon by apologising to her so he clearly doesnt hate her.

I never wanted phil to treat shirley bad. Why would i want that? I want him to come to his senses and realize how much she means to him. I want him to treat her right, be nice to her and show how much he cares. My favourite scenes of them is when he is being genuinely caring (heart to heart in june for example) i hate it when he is mean to her. I dont undrerstand why he has to be so nasty to her, maybe its his way of coping? he cant be with her so he is nasty to her instead. he was like this in 2008 and over the heather stuff. When he proposed the first thing he was doing was being mean about/to shirley. There was absolutely no need as she did NOTHING wrong. not at first anyway

When shirley asked him if she was wrong that he picked her. He couldnt tell her she was wrong. Why couldnt he say it then?

(Have you ever seen him smile the way he did with shirley in the stripping scene? theres a similar smile coming up regarding her aswell)
( i realize they have no scenes atm but ive only just seen this post)

[parkerman]

so ian just believes ben (who killed heather)

I don't think he does entirely. Did he not say to Jane, after the police went, "Do you believe him?" and looked very troubled.

[parkerman]

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[xx_Dan_xx]

I don't believe Ben did it.

[parkerman]

Me neither. I think it was Dot.

[xx_Dan_xx]

You'd think that whoever killed her would be different in character, feeling guilty or edgy, but apart from Ben and Jay, no-one else looks dodgy about it.

[monalisa62003]

You'd think that whoever killed her would be different in character, feeling guilty or edgy, but apart from Ben and Jay, no-one else looks dodgy about it.

I dont think the killer knows they killed her.

[monalisa62003]

You'd think that whoever killed her would be different in character, feeling guilty or edgy, but apart from Ben and Jay, no-one else looks dodgy about it.

I dont think the killer knows they killed her.