EE lost to emmerdale again

[Mr Humphries]

when the 2 soaps went against each other a few years ago when den framed phill ee wiped the floor with emmerdale but they did have a strong storyline whereas now the ee storylines are usually weak but emmerdales are getting stronger,can either soap improve without rehashing old storylines,i doubt it,and getting to a point where i think they should maybe call time on enders while their still up there,and create a new soap,that would really get us talking

Whats needs to happen is EE get a reality check and think hang on what have we done.

1) We spend time on make the public believe that Dirty Den was not dead to just kill him of over a (personal mistake) a year later

2) We made a joke of the legal system by allowing an escaped prison (Phil Mitchell) and a wanted crime (Grant Mitchell) just to walk back into the square as if nothing happened.

3) To kill two gangster figures within a year (Johnny Allen & Andy Hunter) for no good reason

4) To show a death, and not let two figures walk out without a proper death scene, such as Johnny Allen or Jake Moon, or even then buring Den's body!

5) They denied us the right to see the ultimate clash in Den Watts and Peggy Mitchell and also, the ultimate Mitchell's versus Andy Hunter!

6) People such as Sam Mitchell and Zoe Slater are not just forgotten because they where an accessory to Murder!

7) Why can't Pauline just be written out? Why does she have to die?

8) Sharon could not in the really world just transfer the deeds to The Queen Victoria like that!

9) How does Albert Square Market make any money, no one would travel to get Martin's Fruit and Veg! When can you say ever saw a fruit and veg stall other than in a central place where there are thousands of people. How can he make money ?

10) Why don't people have washing machines ? How could you let people such as Pauline and Dot was your underpants etc/... for all those years ?

11) If The Queen Vic was owned by a brewery, they would not just let people like The Mitchells or The Watts, take it over every other year, they would also decorate it, and update it.

[alan45]

Whats needs to happen is EE get a reality check and think hang on what have we done.

1) We spend time on make the public believe that Dirty Den was not dead to just kill him of over a (personal mistake) a year later

2) We made a joke of the legal system by allowing an escaped prison (Phil Mitchell) and a wanted crime (Grant Mitchell) just to walk back into the square as if nothing happened.

3) To kill two gangster figures within a year (Johnny Allen & Andy Hunter) for no good reason

4) To show a death, and not let two figures walk out without a proper death scene, such as Johnny Allen or Jake Moon, or even then buring Den's body!

5) They denied us the right to see the ultimate clash in Den Watts and Peggy Mitchell and also, the ultimate Mitchell's versus Andy Hunter!

6) People such as Sam Mitchell and Zoe Slater are not just forgotten because they where an accessory to Murder!

7) Why can't Pauline just be written out? Why does she have to die?

8) Sharon could not in the really world just transfer the deeds to The Queen Victoria like that!

9) How does Albert Square Market make any money, no one would travel to get Martin's Fruit and Veg! When can you say ever saw a fruit and veg stall other than in a central place where there are thousands of people. How can he make money ?

10) Why don't people have washing machines ? How could you let people such as Pauline and Dot was your underpants etc/... for all those years ?

11) If The Queen Vic was owned by a brewery, they would not just let people like The Mitchells or The Watts, take it over every other year, they would also decorate it, and update it.

1. It was a huge mistake to bring him back. The storyline was totally unbleivable.

2. EE regularly makes a mockery of the legal system. Remember Barrys death and with the return of the beetroot we are expected to believe that a two bit gangster like him can bribe witnesses, policemen and the CPS

3. Killing off Johnny Allen was unforgivable. At least he used to be scary unlike the pantomime gangster that was Andy Pandy Hunter

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6 Yet another black hole in the scripting

7. Because she must have a Sensational and Explosive exit

8. Walford is not the real world. In the real world not just anyone can own a pub

9. Pass

10. Another of life's mysteries. The amount of money they spend on Service Washes over the years would have bought twenty washing machines.

11. I thought The Queen Vic was a Free House

Very good and valid points Mr H.

IMO EE suffers from the fact that the writer is changed every few episodes so its bound to lose a bit of continuity. Each writers perception of the characters is different.

[Mr Humphries]

1. It was a huge mistake to bring him back. The storyline was totally unbleivable.

2. EE regularly makes a mockery of the legal system. Remember Barrys death and with the return of the beetroot we are expected to believe that a two bit gangster like him can bribe witnesses, policemen and the CPS

3. Killing off Johnny Allen was unforgivable. At least he used to be scary unlike the pantomime gangster that was Andy Pandy Hunter

4.

5.

6 Yet another black hole in the scripting

7. Because she must have a Sensational and Explosive exit

8. Walford is not the real world. In the real world not just anyone can own a pub

9. Pass

10. Another of life's mysteries. The amount of money they spend on Service Washes over the years would have bought twenty washing machines.

11. I thought The Queen Vic was a Free House

Very good and valid points Mr H.

IMO EE suffers from the fact that the writer is changed every few episodes so its bound to lose a bit of continuity. Each writers perception of the characters is different.

11. Even if The Queen Vic was a Freehouse, they still would not have to run decisions pass a brewery, like the Rovers in Corrie, secondly, considering I own pubs and 2 of which are Freehouses, no one in the right mind would just sign over the deeds, you would be talking at least half a million for the Queen Vic if it was real, if not more.

2. I really can't understand how TV programmes are aloud to take the **ss out of the law like this ! It is a joke

[callummc]

well its happened again this week,after enders winning the christmas time head to head enders probably thought their luck was changing,but no this week emmerdale won in a head to head again

[DaVeyWaVey]

Yes that's correct, Eastenders lost to Emmerdale yet again last Thursday. Here are the ratings:

Emmerdale- 7.9m (36%)
Eastenders- 6.5m (29%)

[Abbie]

Maybe its cos of thw who killed Tom king, but thats going very slowly

[alan45]

Maybe its cos of thw who killed Tom king, but thats going very slowly

More likely its because Emmerdale is better acted, better scripted and more enjoyable.

[sarah21]

Maybe it is the same old story. Emmerdale started at 7, made sure that at 7.28 there was something going on and people stayed with Emmerdale and taped EastEnders. Emmerdale is not beating EastEnders and when all the viewing numbers are in, EastEnders will be well above Emmerdale. As usual.

[callummc]

i'm afraid to say that people videoing and the omnibus are taken into account,ee is getting worse year on year a nd emmerdale are improving year on year,and if the rumours are true about 2 of the best charectors leaving,well ee will end up losing out to emmerdale without even going head to head,then the bbc will swing the axe and put us all out of our misery

[alan45]

Maybe it is the same old story. Emmerdale started at 7, made sure that at 7.28 there was something going on and people stayed with Emmerdale and taped EastEnders. Emmerdale is not beating EastEnders and when all the viewing numbers are in, EastEnders will be well above Emmerdale. As usual.

The same old tired excuses come up all the time. Emmerdale beats EE in the head to heads because quite simply it is far superior to the tosh that is EE. If I was a EE fanatic I woukd watch it and tape Emmerdale. But as you said yourself Emmerdale had something going on which encouraged people to keep tuned to it whereas people couldnt give two flying figs for EE which they knew would just be the same old nonsense.

Accept reality/ Emmerdale will ALWATS beat EE because people emjoy it more. Its not really that difficult of a concept to grasp