View Full Version : harry potter and the Half Blood Prince... post reading anaysis (contains spoilers)
Bad Wolf
12-07-2005, 18:16
This thread contains spoilers
$sTaCeY$
15-07-2005, 14:49
sorry i have posted before the book comes out but i want to no where are the spoilers? theres no spoilers in the thread
Bad Wolf
15-07-2005, 14:53
there will be when people discuss it!!!
xCharliex
15-07-2005, 17:12
Already kno who dies, ive read the beginning of the last chapter already, gets thats an advantage of where i work, we get the new things in the day b4 they go on sale, i wont spoil it for anyone. Never read a HP book or seen the film, not my cup of tea really. Enjoy everybody though
This is a spoiler thread. You can post who dies in here.
.:SpIcYsPy:.
16-07-2005, 08:26
Post it!!!
di marco
16-07-2005, 08:27
from now, i am officially banning myself from looking at this thread til ive read the book!!!
.:SpIcYsPy:.
16-07-2005, 10:04
MAJOR SPOILER:
Apparently Snape kills Dumbledore!! :eek:
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 10:07
in the 2nd chapter he makes a vow to protect draco and kill harry
Behemoth
16-07-2005, 10:14
There's a pic of the Vow on the inside cover.
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 10:27
MAJOR SPOILER:
Apparently Snape kills Dumbledore!! :eek:
WOW bad move for snape
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 11:26
OMG!!!! hust read the first papagrapg in the last chapter- i couldnt resist.......it is dumbledore who dies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what will harry do now????
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 14:01
Spoiler
Proffesor Snape is the Half Blood Prince
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 14:04
nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm not that far, he cant be??? ohhhh best get reading
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 14:06
nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm not that far, he cant be??? ohhhh best get reading
I ain't got that far either but i read the back of the book to see if it was true that dumbledore dies and i found that out
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 14:07
i'm up to the unbreakable voe
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 14:07
i always knew harry was right about snape. the evil git
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 14:38
i always knew harry was right about snape. the evil git
Snape is very very evil, he kills dumbledore :mad: I would tell Harry to kill Snape!!!!
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 14:40
must read.....
will you finish tonight? i'll be on tomorrow from 10 for chats????
i'm here til 5 now tho
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 14:51
must read.....
will you finish tonight? i'll be on tomorrow from 10 for chats????
i'm here til 5 now tho
I doubt it that i'll finish the whole book tonight :D
BlackKat
16-07-2005, 14:52
I finished it. :cheer: I thought it was good -- although I'm dreading the backlash from all the Harry/Hermione fans, lol.
I liked the fact that Dumbledore was wrong about Snape in the end -- shows he's not perfect, although that was also shown in Book 5 with Sirius.
I felt sorry for Draco at the end as well. :(
I'd guessed Dumbledore would die so wasn't too surprised, but I still had a lump in my throat. :crying:
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 14:53
cant wait to see what happens page 335
Took me 5 1/2 hours! Cant believe Snape killed Dumbledore. So know all three of them are off out of hogwarts!How does that work, Hermione would do N.E.W.T.S Cant wait for the final book. Only 2 years-ish!
xxx
BlackKat
16-07-2005, 15:11
Lupin and Tonks seemed a bit random for me though.
Yeah I know, they never showed any sign of feelings before
xxx
BlackKat
16-07-2005, 15:37
Yep, at times it did seem a little too much like JKR was trying to pair everyone up. But I don't think it detracted too much from the book overall - it was just a little random, and a bit too fanfic like.
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 15:38
so lupin doesnt die???
Yeah. I dont mind Ron and Hermione as they are just lovely together. I wanted there to be some connection with Sirius. Apparently it is in the 7th book
xxx
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 15:41
what about harry and ginny????
BlackKat
16-07-2005, 15:44
Nope, Lupin doesn't die.
I liked Harry and Ginny -- thought it was done realistic, and didn't try and pass it off as Harry discovering his soulmate or anything like that.
And Ron and Hermione were just adorable in all their immature glory. :wub:
Bad Wolf
16-07-2005, 15:46
i'm only on page 381- i'm at work and ruddy customers keep interupting!!!!!!!!!!!!
BlackKat
16-07-2005, 15:51
Oh, and when Harry was trying to get into the Room of Requirement, and said "I need to know what Malfoy is doing inside of you?". Please please tell me I'm not the only who giggled.
I couldn't help but laugh quite a bit.
xxx
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 16:02
i'm only on page 381- i'm at work and ruddy customers keep interupting!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im only one page 72, oh well better get reading even more! :angel:
.:SpIcYsPy:.
16-07-2005, 18:10
Im going to try and stay of Soapboards and finish the 5th book in 3 days then I will be on Soapboards.
I have just finsihed the book, I can't believe it! I don't think I can post on here and spoli it for you lot who haven't read it yet!
.:SpIcYsPy:.
16-07-2005, 18:37
JUST SAY IT!! lol
I still can't get over Snape. He was STILL protecting Harry at the end - stopping the others from killing him by saying that Voldemort wanted to do it him self. MAYBE Dumbledore was dying anyway and Snape killed him so he could protect Harry. I just can't think that if he was so evil Dumbledore wouldn't have figured it out? Maybe something will turn up in the next book?
BlackKat
16-07-2005, 18:57
I have just finsihed the book, I can't believe it! I don't think I can post on here and spoli it for you lot who haven't read it yet!
Spoilers are allowed in this thread, cos there's a warning on the first page. So post away. :D
I thought that Harry was being needlessly noble re Ginny...
I also thought that there was FAR too much teenage romance, and not enough action until the end
Could R.A.B. be 3 people? If the orignial locket was hidden the same way as the fake, then one person COULDN'T have swiped and replaced it?
BlackKat
16-07-2005, 19:18
I didn't mind the teenage romance cos well...they're teenagers! :searchme:
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 21:11
2 Years!
Two years is a very very long time to wait!! we need a time machine to go ahead 2 years to get the HP book 7 :)
Who is R.A.B.???
thats what i wanna know
$sTaCeY$
16-07-2005, 22:16
thats what i wanna know
Read the book then you should find out what R.A.B. is im still reading the book so I am yet to find out what R.A.B. is
I HAVE read he book - it doesn't tell you who R.A.B. is - must be one for book 7. I wondered if anyone had any guesses..
$sTaCeY$
17-07-2005, 09:10
SPOILER
Harry Potter is the new captian for quidditch
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 10:01
i finished last night................ruddy snape- the evil git, harry has been right all along.....poor dumbledore (sob)...i would like to think somehow harrys mim and dad, dumbledore and sirius are all their at the end telling him to fight on????
i'm going to copy the spoilers so we can see how accurate they are....we never found out why harry having his mums eyes was significant????
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 10:16
the real ones are in blue.....
Here are some facts about book 6 that I have gathered from over the internet. I've made the important ones bold :D Enjoy!
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Facts about Voldemort will be revealed concerning his history and character;this is true- we learn loads about his past and what made him evil and about his mums family
Harry will leave Privet Drive earlier than usual;yup, dumbledore gets him and take's him to the burrow, via a detour to recruit a new teacher
JKR has revealed that the opening chapter of book 6 was originally planned for the early parts of book 1, indicating that the chapter will most likely be a flashback, probably to when Harry's parent's were murdered; nope, the first chapter was about the PM
Neither Harry, Voldemort, or Tom Riddle are the Half-Blood Prince; and you never saw it coming who it really is....snape
Book 6 will reveal all the backstory of the series, meaning a prequel book will not be necessary;kind of ---riddles history and an explanation about the prophecy
There will be a new Minister of Magic; yup
In books 6 and 7 we will find out why Dumbledore trusts Snape; not really- he just said he was full of remorse after telling voldemort about overhearing the prophecy
We will find out what happened to Wormtail AKA Peter Pettigrew;--yup, he is with snape
JK has said that giving away the form of Snape's boggart and patronus says too much. We'll definitely find out what Snape's worst fear is, and it'll be important; not in this book
We will find out what exactly Dudley saw when he looked at the dementors; nope, not really much on the dursleys this time
The reason Voldemort tried to kill Harry will be revealed; because of what snape told him of the prophecy
Moaning Myrtle will make an appearance again, as will Tonks;they do
Muggles begin to notice "more and more odd" occurrences in book 6, says JK; they do- an bridge collapsing and the tornado caused by a giant
The wizarding world is really at war in the sixth book; they are
We will find out what happened to Sirius's motorbike; not yet we dont
It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms; not in this book
The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 2 years at Hogwarts; yup, harry has a choice to fight or not
Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot;not in this book
Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter; not in this book- except she was a gifted witch
At least one character will die in book 6;yup- dumbledore-:crying:
In book 6 or 7, the secret behind Harry's wealth will be revealed;must be book 7
Three chapter names have been revealed from Book 6. These are Draco's Detour, Spinners End, and Felix Felicis; thats true
At the end of June, Hermione's ban on Rita Skeeter's writing will end, meaning we will be seeing more of her;she is at the fureral but that her 1st and last appearance in book 6 so kind of true- she is seen with a note pad
Ron and Hermione both turn 17 during the school year meaning they will be able to learn to apparate, though they won't be able to do it inside of Hogwarts grounds;true,and harry learns but he cant take his test yet and ron fails his- he leaves 1/2 an eyebrow behind
Towards the end of the book, Harry will again find himself in a one-on-one confrontation with either Voldemort of the Death Eaters. not really at the end- he gives chase, but is not like the confrontations in the previous books
so there you are Well done Orisis
squillyfer
17-07-2005, 12:17
It was so good I loved it finished it last night too. Evil snape harry was right all along should of killed him when he had the chance. Thought harry and ginny was a bit wierd and poor harry now he has lost his parents his godfather and dumbledore it doesnt seem fair
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 12:23
whens 7 out??????
i suppose we have about 2 years to discuss all possibilities???
The new potions teacher went on and on about Harry having Lilly eyes. He must have metioned it about 5 times!
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 12:54
nothing significant about lily tho- no major bombshell or anything
what did you think Shari?
I thought it was over long, it could have done with some serious editing. 70% of the book seemed to be setting the scene for the next one!
I still think that Snape is being maligned here! There has to be something more that we don't know. Dumbledore was dying anyway after drinking that stuff - I think that he was looking out for Harry
And bringing in the PM? Another bit for book 7? We are obviously leavin Hogworts behind now and the fight is going to be out there in the real world..
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:02
I thought it was over long, it could have done with some serious editing. 70% of the book seemed to be setting the scene for the next one!
that's what i thought, nothing major happened (except dumbledores demise and the truth about snape)
voldemort wasnt even in it, except in the flashbacks when he was young
oh well only another 2 years to go!!!
Who is R.A.B. - I posted above but noone came back, it is obviously the most significant clue in the book. Someone else is after Voldemort - who, and why?
And when!
And why did Dumbledore not know? Must be someone from outwith the Order of the Phoneix, perhaps someone close to Voldemort, another double agent??
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:06
no idea, its annoying me too, especially as dumbledore died needlessly because of him/her
cant believe snape was the HBP- when did that happen??? always thought he was pure blood??? but i suppose she is likening him to voldemort in that was- snape will probably turn out to be the closest one to him??
no idea, its annoying me too, especially as dumbledore died needlessly because of him/her
cant believe snape was the HBP- when did that happen??? always thought he was pure blood??? but i suppose she is likening him to voldemort in that was- snape will probably turn out to be the closest one to him??
I soo do not want that to be true, I don't want Dumbledore to have died in vain - I want him to have died for Harry, otherwise it is pointless.
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:09
surely he/she would hav been of the order???
If he was then surely the initials would have meant something to both Harry and Dumbledore, and Dumbledore would have known about it?
I think that it is either someone completely new, or someone that we think of as a 'baddie'
BTW, isn't Percy awful! I cannot stand him!
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:11
we dont know of anyone with the initials RAB tho?
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:12
BTW, isn't Percy awful! I cannot stand him!
god yes!!! dont think much of the new head of the ministry either...total slime bag like his predecessor
R.A.B
A person?
3 people?
A group, like OOTP?
Who is it!
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:13
should i start a thread for book 7 spoilers dicussion??? i think it might be a bit early!!
My youngest is halfway through the book now, and he has guessed that Snape killed Dumbledore, but he isn't sure if he is the half blood prince. He is a bit quicker off the make than I was!
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:22
the ladies in my family are all avid book worms- my gran switched me on to HP, my little bro just started and last night he actually told her he prefers books to films because there is more in them......FINALLY!!!!!.
he is 9 and by that age i had got through all Roald Dahl's books
just finished it and OMG!!!! I always knew harry was right about snape.I cant believe they aren't going to go back to hogwarts in the next book. :crying:
this is the first harry potter book that has actually made me cry dumbledore funneral was so sad
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:55
i hate to admit it but i was in tears too!!!
My mum and step dad were looking at me as if i was mad!!!
Starting to think there is something else going on with snape though. Dont know what though.
Anyway off to had another slower read though. I always miss things the first time round
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 13:59
i'm going to re-read it too
Ron and Lavender who would have thought......
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 14:17
he only snogged her to annoy hermionie!!!
love harry and ginny.....who knows once harry has saved the wizarding world, maybe they will get together????
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 14:19
snape!!!!! who could have forseen him being the halp blood prince???!!!!
Yeah i know that he only done it because ginny said hermione had snogged krum but still......
I knew they would have to end byt he end of the book. I was quiet sad. Hopefully they do get back together again
snape!!!!! who could have forseen him being the halp blood prince???!!!!
I know i thought the he would have had to have been pureblood to get in with voldemort so he never really crossed my mind. Knew it was him though as soon as he asked to see all of harry's books
Bad Wolf
17-07-2005, 14:24
i think she is trying to liken snape to voldemort, thay are both half blood, as is harry
$sTaCeY$
17-07-2005, 16:45
snape!!!!! who could have forseen him being the halp blood prince???!!!!
I though he might have been the half blood prince but then i thought it could be harry, shock to found out that snape is the half blood prince
I still think you are misjudging Snape! There has to be more!
I still think you are misjudging Snape! There has to be more!
I am begining to think there is more to it aswell. Started reading again just in case i missed anything out.
I can't re read it yet, my youngest has it!
i still need to buy the book!!!!
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 22:06
I've finished it. Can't believe that it's Dumbledore that dies AND that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince! The book ended differently as well, without the Hogwarts Express and everything.
The next book is going to be very different I think. Harry, Ron and Hermione all staying at the Dursley's and none of them are returning to Hogwarts.
Does anyone thing Dumbledore's portrait will play a part?
I've finished it. Can't believe that it's Voldemort that dies AND that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince! The book ended differently as well, without the Hogwarts Express and everything.
The next book is going to be very different I think. Harry, Ron and Hermione all staying at the Dursley's and none of them are returning to Hogwarts.
Does anyone thing Dumbledore's portrait will play a part?
Yeah i was thinking about dumbledores portrait too. But then again they might not be in hogwarts to listen to it.
Something has been bothering me though aboutt he next book. Can you really see Mrs Weasley letting ron go off with ahrry to track voldemort and snape down? I cant
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 22:13
I really want to know why Dumbledore trusted Snape. He trusted him right up until he killed him. WHY????
I think that will be explained more fully in the next book.
My friend actually thinks that snape was under the imperitus (sp) curse when he done it and Flintwick (sp) put him under it.
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 22:21
Oooo that's a good thought. I really need to read the book again. I read the last few chapters quite quickly because I wanted to find out who died and what was happening etc... so I think I need to read them in detail.
I didn't believe Dumbledore was dead at first, I just thought that it was some sort of trick or something.
Jessie Wallace
17-07-2005, 22:24
Yeah i was thinking about dumbledores portrait too. But then again they might not be in hogwarts to listen to it.
Something has been bothering me though aboutt he next book. Can you really see Mrs Weasley letting ron go off with ahrry to track voldemort and snape down? I cant
He'll be nearly 18 how can she stop him?
Yeah me too i thought that he had bought one of the wealsey sheild thing and was just playing dead.
Kept thinking they must has made them stronger and gave them to dd when ron was sick.
He'll be nearly 18 how can she stop him?
he's 17 and this is Mrs Weasley we are talking about. Im sure she would find a way lol
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 22:32
Yeah me too i thought that he had bought one of the wealsey sheild thing and was just playing dead.
Kept thinking they must has made them stronger and gave them to dd when ron was sick. I didn't believe it right up until the end of the book because I didn't expect it to end when it did. I kept expecting to turn the page and see some sort of explanation. I still can't really believe it now, it's as though one of my friends has died lol.
I didn't believe it right up until the end of the book because I didn't expect it to end when it did. I kept expecting to turn the page and see some sort of explanation. I still can't really believe it now, it's as though one of my friends has died lol.
Yeah i know what you mean i was crying for the last two or three chapters couldn't help it.
Mum had asked me to tell her when i found out who died but i just couldn't speak had to wait until i finished the book and was sure it was right
Jessie Wallace
17-07-2005, 22:43
he's 17 and this is Mrs Weasley we are talking about. Im sure she would find a way lol
He's 17 now, but nearly 18! Yep i know what you mean about Mrs Weasley, my Mum used to be like that.
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 22:53
I think the matter of who the Half-Blood Prince was was wrapped up pretty quicky, considering the title of the book was devoted to it.
yeah it was really, i thought it would have had a bigger part in the story. We already knew it wasn't voldemort so the thought never occured to me that it would have been snape. I was begining to think it was his mother with the way Hermione kept going on about Prince not meaning it was a boy.
Another thing that annoyed me was why didn't ron and hermione get together at the end? they had bothe bascially admitted to each other that they liked each other so why not put them together???
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 22:58
Yea, it seemed to end with a few chapters missing.
I just hope she ties eveything up at the end.......god the end what am i going to do when this has finished???? :eek:
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 23:02
I've been thinking the same! What am I going to do when I read the final sentence of the final page of the final chapter of the final book? It will all be over :(
Jessie Wallace
17-07-2005, 23:03
Did anyone watch the interview with JK on ITV earlier?
well at least well have a movie to look forward to maybe even two if the ootp movie issn't done before the last book
Did anyone watch the interview with JK on ITV earlier?
yeah seen it. That wee boy was brilliant!!!!
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 23:06
J.K. Rowling has really put a lot of thought into the books, laying clues everywhere and now is beginning to tie them up. I really didn't expect everything to come together the way it has started to.
Do you think the next book with have any humour in it at all? No more Hogwarts for Ron, Hermione and Harry and all they are doing is setting out on a quest. Sounds a bit....boring?
With ron and hermione there, there will always be humour in it!!!
Although i do think the next one will be more serious and dark.
She said in her interview today that the last chapter is about hat happens to the people who survive after the war. So at least we wont be wondering what happened and hopefully it will be more a a happy ending than one mourning all the death that ARE going to happen.
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 23:14
I really hope there is. Harry Potter is fundamentally about humour even if bad conditions and I really hope it doesn't just become a miserable book. I can't wait now!
Jessie Wallace
17-07-2005, 23:14
yeah seen it. That wee boy was brilliant!!!!
I recorded it, he was brilliant wasn't he, she didn't even need to talk to him as though he was a kid.
I seen him on GMTV didn't actually see the show he won though, and he seemed really grown up for his age.
Do you ever go on mugglenet or leaky cauldren? Emerson and Mellisa where there from they websites and had a private interview with her for two hours. cant wait till that gets posted on the webiste
I really hope there is. Harry Potter is fundamentally about humour even if bad conditions and I really hope it doesn't just become a miserable book. I can't wait now!
Only two and a bit years to go.......god thats sounds like forever!!!
Behemoth
17-07-2005, 23:20
I'll be 19 when its out! I hope i'm still interested in it. There is no way I'm missing out on the final book.
just found this on a site with a review of the opening night
Yes, just like the chanting goes, 'Weasley is our King' after the winning of Quidditch nowadays, this is the most jubilant way to say about our all-time favourite JK Rowling...
'Read all books she've got
You'll say, she's the best of the lot!
Six books we have seen
Yet again, Rowling is our Queen...!
Rowling is our Queen!
Rowling is our Queen!'
I love it :D
i'll be 24-25 and there is no way i'll be missing out on it!!!!
Even though people say i am far too obsessed for my ages as it is :rotfl:
Jessie Wallace
18-07-2005, 00:24
I'll be 19 when its out! I hope i'm still interested in it. There is no way I'm missing out on the final book.
My mum loves it and she 54. That one of the best things about the books, they appeal to the young and old.
Behemoth
18-07-2005, 00:30
My mum loves it and she 54. That one of the best things about the books, they appeal to the young and old. Yeah, that is the really good thing about them. I'm not sure that I agree with the 'Adult Editions' though.
Jessie Wallace
18-07-2005, 01:32
No, it seems like they are just trying to make more money out of us, which isn't really fair.
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 09:23
I've finished it. Can't believe that it's Voldemort that dies AND that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince! The book ended differently as well, without the Hogwarts Express and everything.
The next book is going to be very different I think. Harry, Ron and Hermione all staying at the Dursley's and none of them are returning to Hogwarts.
Does anyone thing Dumbledore's portrait will play a part?
I didn't know that voldermort dies, how does he get killed?
I didn't know that voldermort dies, how does he get killed?
He doesn't i think Osiris ment Dumbledore dies
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 09:32
He doesn't i think Osiris ment Dumbledore dies
oh right
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 09:33
Only two and a bit years to go.......god thats sounds like forever!!!
it is forever!!
I was surprised that Snape was the HBP - I thought that you had to be pure blood to be a death eater, and that all death eaters hated mugglebloods - so in Book 7, will Voldemort really discover that Snape isn't pure blood, this could ensure that that trust that Dumbledore showed him was in good faith. Plus, all we know was that Dumbledore pleaded with Snape - who says it was pleading with him to save him, it could have been to finish him. Plus, whats going to happen to Draco - he was supposed to do the job himself, otherwise he and his family were going to be killed by Voldemort, and he didn't do it cause Snape did. I did start to feel sorry for Draco though cause he didn't really want to do it.
What about the prophecy though, that was very interesting and it will give Harry an advantage at the final showdown IMO.
So much to say .......
Well I have heard speculation that snape is a goodie, well I saw that coming, Harry himself may be a Horcrux - but i don't think so and that R.A.B. is Sirius Black's brother.
I read that aswell about sirius blacks brother.
I thought that Harry might be a horcrux too when i was reading it but something made me change my mind cant remember what though.
Wouldn't that mean that harry would have to detstroy himself if he was though?
Yes, it would mean that. I don't think he is, cos Dumbledore said something about Voldemort not being able to get to Harry because of love, i think it would be a copout it Harry was a Horcrux - I don't want him to die! But I guess it would stop JKR having to write about a grown up Harry....
She would be linched if she killed harry off!!!! Her words not mine lol
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 18:08
Well I have heard speculation that snape is a goodie, well I saw that coming, Harry himself may be a Horcrux - but i don't think so and that R.A.B. is Sirius Black's brother.
whats horcrux?
Stacey - read the book!
A horcrux is whe you divide your soul and keep part of it away from your body, e.g. in an object or even an other person.
Dumbledore has speculated that Voldemart has done this 6 times, and that his soul is split into 7 part. He would have needed to kill someone each time he did this..
Voldemorts soul has been split into seven horcrux's it means (i think) that all of them have to be destroyed before voldemort can die. This is how he never died when he attacked harry as a baby Because he still had six horcrux's out there
There is speculation that Dumbeldore may have a horcrux, too, and would therefore be able to come back...
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 18:13
Stacey - read the book!
A horcrux is whe you divide your soul and keep part of it away from your body, e.g. in an object or even an other person.
Dumbledore has speculated that Voldemart has done this 6 times, and that his soul is split into 7 part. He would have needed to kill someone each time he did this..
I am still currently reading the book! i don't think ill finish it untill 2006 at the rate i am reading it :) im a very slow reader
Nah i think that once she's killed him off thats it.
It is dark magic and i dont think dumbledore would have done this
My youngest has finished it - after me- and is now rereading it!!
Well maybe his pictures will be in it then?
I am still currently reading the book! i don't think ill finish it untill 2006 at the rate i am reading it :) im a very slow reader
lol and your looking on here and finding out whats going to happen hile your reading the book?
I couldn't have done that. I may have been dying to find out but thats half the funny of reading the books. Not knowing what to expect. Doesn't it ruin it for you?
My youngest has finished it - after me- and is now rereading it!!
I am rereading it as we speak. because i read it so fast to start off with (mainly because i dont want to hear any spoliers) i always think i've missed things out so i always re read.
I am rereading it as we speak. because i read it so fast to start off with (mainly because i dont want to hear any spoliers) i always think i've missed things out so i always re read.
I will do too - when I get it of my son!
I've finished it. Can't believe that it's Voldemort that dies AND that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince! The book ended differently as well, without the Hogwarts Express and everything.
The next book is going to be very different I think. Harry, Ron and Hermione all staying at the Dursley's and none of them are returning to Hogwarts.
Does anyone thing Dumbledore's portrait will play a part?i got told that dumbledore dis soo now im very confused :hmm:
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 22:17
i got told that dumbledore dis soo now im very confused :hmm:
He ment that dumbledore dies, voldermort is still alive
Behemoth
18-07-2005, 22:51
Yea, sorry. I meant to type Dumbledore!
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 22:53
Yea, sorry. I meant to type Dumbledore!
Can't you edit your post and change it osiris
$sTaCeY$
18-07-2005, 23:00
now that makes sense
yeah :)
Behemoth
18-07-2005, 23:11
Can't you edit your post and change it osiris Will do :)
Behemoth
18-07-2005, 23:13
........done :)
$sTaCeY$
19-07-2005, 08:13
........done :)
ok :D thats better now
I read somewhere and it was mentioned in the book that the new minister of magic was a vampire. Was this confirmed in the book? Did i miss it?
I remember it being said that he was a vampire in the book....
Behemoth
19-07-2005, 11:13
I've heard rumours that Snape is a vampire but JK said he wasn't.
I thinkt hat came from the first book when he entred the dungeon and shut all the light out while looking like a bat. Ive heard that one before.
I've also heard that Dumbledore is either Ron or Harry from the future. JK said this wasn't true either. Where do they get these rumours from lol
$sTaCeY$
20-07-2005, 18:02
I thinkt hat came from the first book when he entred the dungeon and shut all the light out while looking like a bat. Ive heard that one before.
I've also heard that Dumbledore is either Ron or Harry from the future. JK said this wasn't true either. Where do they get these rumours from lol
wonder where that rumor that dumbledore was harry or ron from the future came from :hmm:
first ive ever heard about it
first ive ever heard about it
It's on J K Rowlings website in the F.A.Q section
ok just had a look at the F.A.Q section couldn;'t see it but i have read it somewhere on her website
wonder where that rumor that dumbledore was harry or ron from the future came from :hmm:
I know....it is a good theory though would explain why dumbledore knows a lot about whats been going on
Behemoth
20-07-2005, 19:17
How do you pronounce Horcrux?
Is it Whore-crucks, or Whore-cruise?
first ive ever heard about it
It's on the rumours section 1st page
How do you pronounce Horcrux?
Is it Whore-crucks, or Whore-cruise?
i would say it ho-ur-crucks
Behemoth
20-07-2005, 19:26
Thats the way I pronounce is aswell but I was thinking of the way Xylophone is pronounced.
Yeah could be never thought of that
$sTaCeY$
20-07-2005, 20:18
I know....it is a good theory though would explain why dumbledore knows a lot about whats been going on
Yeah it is a good therory, but wouldn't it be out of this world if dumbledore was harry or ron from the future
Yeah it is a good therory, but wouldn't it be out of this world if dumbledore was harry or ron from the future
yeah i know what you mean
$sTaCeY$
20-07-2005, 20:28
He could be a part of Harrys relations though
He could be a part of Harrys relations though
nope also been confirmed by JK that this is not true
$sTaCeY$
20-07-2005, 21:06
nope also been confirmed by JK that this is not true
Oh i see
Just found this idea on another forum it sound really good apart from the end when they think that harry is a horcrux
i dont think snape is evil i think when dumbledore said severus in a pleading voice on the tower he wasnted severus to kill him rather than malfoy , Had malfoy done it he would have corrupted his soul if severus had not done it he would hace been destroyed by the unbreakable vow and the other deatheaters would have then killed dumbledore anyway( who i suspect was dying anyway either from the ring/horcrux or the fluid he had drank) < and perhaps in luke skywalker/obi wan style dumbledore maybe more useful to harry now he is dead.
And i also think harry is a horcrux
$sTaCeY$
21-07-2005, 13:24
can someone tell me what a horcrux is i have not got that far in the book yet
can someone tell me what a horcrux is i have not got that far in the book yet if you look up a bit in the thread you'll see it's been explained there
$sTaCeY$
21-07-2005, 13:27
if you look up a bit in the thread you'll see it's been explained there
thanks
$sTaCeY$
21-07-2005, 13:28
the horcrux is the ring dumbledore has
Thats one of them there are in total 7 six outside vodemorts body and one inside all of these have to be destroyed before voldemort can die
$sTaCeY$
21-07-2005, 13:31
oh right
SoapRach
22-07-2005, 10:08
OK I finished it last night - didn't even go on this website the whole time in case I was tempted!
RAB - I also think is Regulus Black (can't remember the spelling) - which meant that he was good really but can't work out how he got past the potion to get the horcrux.
Snape - don't forget he made the unbreakable vow - does that not mean that he had to kill dumbledore? I think that he's still good deep down... and I think that dumbledore knew something more than the fact that Snape overheard the prophecy and felt bad. I think there was a bigger reason for dumbledore to trust snape. I worked out quite early on that he was the half blood prince.
SoapRach
25-07-2005, 12:50
For those of you interested scott mills said that Hermione died and she doesn't. I know it's not really giving anything away now but i'm sure there are people out there who don't want to know anything - I guess it does tell them that hermione survives the book! So to avoid upsetting anyone i've posted it here!!
$sTaCeY$
25-07-2005, 14:52
For those of you interested scott mills said that Hermione died and she doesn't. I know it's not really giving anything away now but i'm sure there are people out there who don't want to know anything - I guess it does tell them that hermione survives the book! So to avoid upsetting anyone i've posted it here!!
oh thats what he said, thanks 4 posting it :)
Thanks SoapRach - I missed it, but heard about it so thanks for posting.
How could Dumbledore have died?? i have always hated snape, but i could never have thought that would happen. ever. what will the next book be like without Dumbledore because i think without Dumbledore then it won't be the same, even if Harry decides not to return to Hogwarts and to find the Horcruxes instead.
ok ive jsu bought the book lol
ok ive jsu bought the book lol
Omg you've just bought the book and your looking in the spoilers section......oh i couldn't have done that lol
Omg you've just bought the book and your looking in the spoilers section......oh i couldn't have done that lol
i know lol but i cant help it
$sTaCeY$
27-07-2005, 17:16
It is hard to resist reading the spoilers before reading the book
Bad Wolf
27-07-2005, 17:19
I always read the last page of books or the last paragraph- with the hp6 book it made no sense.....it wasnt at the train station and there was no mention of the dursleys as per usual
yeah well i don't look at all, i just let the plot go through till i've finished the book...
I read the spoilers before I read the book. I knew AD was going to die - just wished they'd hurry up and do it!
Bad Wolf
27-07-2005, 18:20
is snape an evil g*t or will he have something hidden?
is snape an evil g*t or will he have something hidden?
I reckon he turns out to be a goody in the end. Or it could be he want voldermort out of the way to assume his mantle.
Bad Wolf
27-07-2005, 18:23
i dont think he does, i think he will be closer to voldemort than anyone else
I think there is a hidden agenda with Snape. He had to get Draco away from Hogwarts afterwards as he'd made the unbreakable vow with Draco's mother, but I think we may be surprised in Book 7.
Slughorn calling Ron "Rupert" - is not a mistake:
[JK Rowling] is underlining the fact that Professor Slughorn has never paid very much attention to Ron, to the point that he still gets Ron’s name wrong even after Ron almost died in his rooms, and thus pointing up again Slughorn’s particular taste for “the company of the famous, the successful, and the powerful,” as Dumbledore says, over those who may be less flashy but are just as worthy, like Ron.
and i thought it was a mistake :rotfl:
SoapRach
28-07-2005, 09:25
I think there is a hidden agenda with Snape. He had to get Draco away from Hogwarts afterwards as he'd made the unbreakable vow with Draco's mother, but I think we may be surprised in Book 7.
Yeah i agree with you. I can't remember the discussion between ron harry and hermione about unbreakable vows, but am i right in thinking that Ron assumed that the person would die? so they don't know for sure? which means that the person who made the vow might not be able to control his actions... snape might not have been able to stop himself from killing dumbledore... just my opinion on the matter!! I really need to go back and read that part again.
Yeah i agree with you. I can't remember the discussion between ron harry and hermione about unbreakable vows, but am i right in thinking that Ron assumed that the person would die? so they don't know for sure? which means that the person who made the vow might not be able to control his actions... snape might not have been able to stop himself from killing dumbledore... just my opinion on the matter!! I really need to go back and read that part again.
I think he would haved been able to control his actions. Why put in the unbreakable vow that the person would die if they didn't fulfill it? there would be no point.
Just found this on another forum clues to what the remaining horcrues could be. Some are a bit whacky but thought id post is anyway.
1. Locket that is in # 12 Grimmald Place
Why: Locket that DD suffered so much for in the cave, had a note in it from R.A.B. The cave locket looks similar to the one in the pensieve memory.
We know that Regulas (middle initial hopefully"A"?) Black was killed by Voldy's henchmen. He got in too far and couldn't hack the Death Eater gig. They don't take kindly to failures and iti looks like Reggie got Whacked!
Another clue is that the gang could not open this locket while Mrs. Weasley had them spring cleaning Grimmald place.
2. Tom Riddle's trophy for "Special Services to the School"
Why: Ron kept throwing up slugs on it whenever he tried to clean it. Since Ron was also very upset about the diary, he may be able to discern horcrux's.
Tom likes trophies and always felt that Hogwarts was his home. Putting a Horcrux in a trophy case where his soul is enshrined makes good sense and may be another reason why Voldy wanted to come back to Hogwarts as a teacher.
It also could be that this will be the site for the last Horcrux, maybe by Voldy's accounting, he still has one to go?
3. Nagini
Voldy, Harry and Nagini were sharing minds for a bit. Horcrux's aren't supposed to be put into live creatures. Dumbledore suspects Nagini so we should too.
4. Weasley's tiara
Why: "Fair Revenclaw from the glen" sings the Sorting Hat. A tiara fits around your head. Ravenclaw is all about intellect. Also, there was a tiara in the Room of Requirement where Harry hid the potion book.
5. Smith cup - Hufflepuff relic
Why: At least one of the Horcrux's should be easy to spot. Harry sees
6. Weasley Clock
I don't really think this is a HX, but I have no evidence one way or another. Perhaps the Weasley's and Dumbledore are more closely related than we think.
7. Ron's funky new watch
All the time-travel devices were destroyed in the battle at the Dept. of Mysteries. I can't find the quote, but some fans say that J.K. rowling indicated that time-travel will come into the story one more time.
My guess: the watch is a time-turner just like the one Dumbledore had.
8. Yikes! Harry himself!
Why: Sharing the mind of Voldy and Nagini is a clue to a connection.
Why Not: It is pretty stupid to put a Horcrux into Harry and then try to kill him. It doesn't make sense for Voldy to do this.
What if: Peter Pettigrew must know a bit about horcrux's because he helped Voldy with his rebirth. Pettigrew also had access to Harry.
What if Reggie, Peter, and Snape decided to move one of Voldy's horcruxes onto baby Harry, knowing that Voldy was going to kill Harry anyway?
Reggie wanted revenge on Voldy. This would be a great way to do it. Have Voldy kill this child and, unknowingly, kill a part of himself to boot.
Voldy zaps baby Harry and BAM! He comes down with a bad case of less than meanest ghost:
Insert appropriate angst and noble martyrdom - Harry maybe has to die to completely get rid of Voldy?
i hadn't thought of those..
Dr. Tangliss
04-08-2005, 09:05
Thanks, lunalee, for pointing this thread out to me! :)
I finshed the book last week, and i was in tears literally! A lot more emotional then the other books, but my firm favourite one still remains with GOF.
Them remaining horcruzes that Lunalee suggested make a hell of a lot of sense. Can't wait to see if they turn out to be true
Me either abi dont think i can wait two years!!!!
ok she said that the last chapter is locked away somewhere. No where could that be and how can we steal it :hmm:
:hmm: Either she has a safe at home, or she has stashed it somewhere :hmm:
Lets mount Operation Last Page!!!
ok her house? which is only about 25 miles away from me here or at a bank somewhere?
Right well that would make it about :hmm: how many hundred miles from me - looks like you'll have to cover that angle!!! :lol:
If im going down your coming down with me!!!
You know it could be somewhere in london at blooms. Now thats closer to you
Bad Wolf
05-08-2005, 11:34
i like your thinking!
I was thinking... you know that i series' something from teh beginning comes back to haunt the chracters at the end, maybe the philosphers stone plays a part in the ending?
That was destroyed Nicholas Flamel died because it was destroyed
i bet something from the beginning comes back though, it always does
Yeah i also have the feeling that there will be alot of flashbacks in the next book
If im going down your coming down with me!!!
You know it could be somewhere in london at blooms. Now thats closer to youStill 200 miles away though lol!!
Just read the book, took it on holiday with me! oh my god :crying: !!! I got so hooked at the end o ended up reading 11 chapters at once!
lol it does get slightly addictive at the end doesn't it??? i couldn't put it down
It was a very slow book all the way through, but by the end it got really really addictive. Seems like all the clues have been layed for the final book, so looks like we have one hell of a book to look forward to
only 2 years left...
Just finished reading it yesterday- (didnt buy it when it first came out) I thought the ending was so sad!! I thought that Dumbledore would be in it until the end!!
I read it straight off in just about 5 hours. I thought that it was really badly edited and about 1/3 too long. The story is great, and can't wait for the last book to see how it all pans out.
Bad Wolf
19-08-2005, 11:37
hopefully, when the dust settles right at the end, Harry and Ginny will get back together or it ends with Ron and Hermionie will get wed!
Bad Wolf
19-08-2005, 11:43
not just that, but it will symbolise a new beginning after the final struggle
hopefully, when the dust settles right at the end, Harry and Ginny will get back together or it ends with Ron and Hermionie will get wed!
Oh course they will they are ment to be :wub:
hopefully, when the dust settles right at the end, Harry and Ginny will get back together or it ends with Ron and Hermionie will get wed!
yer lol
i cant wait for the last book
Yeh i agree i think Ron&Hermionie and Harry & Ginny should get wed!!
Do you think that in the last book that it will end with Harry all grown up ot something? (if someone hasnt killed him!)
Bad Wolf
20-08-2005, 16:31
he should turn 18 at the end- every book has followed him through out a school year
I was a bit confused when i was reading the book, what has the phropecy got to with neville? I cant actually remeber the phropecy!! where abouts is it in the 5th book?
Yeah, but although every book has followed him through a school year, he isnt going back to school, is he? Thakns though you probably are right- you can still be 17-18 even if you dont go to school!!
Bad Wolf
20-08-2005, 16:42
read this thread, it explains alot
http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=17124
Yeh i agree i think Ron&Hermionie and Harry & Ginny should get wed!!yay everyone agrees then lol
i dont want the next one to be the last book :(
i dont want the next one to be the last book :(
I dont think anyone does we can only hope that in ten years time she'll get bored with whatever she's doing and then write a follow up
I dont think anyone does we can only hope that in ten years time she'll get bored with whatever she's doing and then write a follow upyay i hope so :thumbsup:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/GilGrissomCSI/snaped.jpg
How sick is that??
Do we think that in the next book that ginny is goin g to let Harry Ron and Hermione go on the hunt without her?
I think there is no chance - she will leave for hogwarts and run away to look for them!!!
Bad Wolf
21-10-2005, 08:11
i dont know what will happen ron and hermionie said they would follow harry to his aunt and uncles- thats going to be interesting
does anyone think malfoy will come good in the end?
Im not sure about malfoy i believe in the last book that if given a bit more time dumbledore (sniff) would have gotten throught to him. Now that he's on the run with snape im not sure what will happen. Although i do think he will regret everything that he has done!
Also i dont think harry has much of a choice whether ron and hermione are going with him or not lol
Bad Wolf
21-10-2005, 08:25
i dont think harry will kill any one other than voldemort- and i think that will be a magical and not intentional thing- i dont thinkk we will ever hear harry say the killing curse- it wil involve him destroying all the horcruxes- then something unforseen will happen????
did he not try and use a killing curse in OOTP??
oooohhhh i cant wait 2years +
Bad Wolf
21-10-2005, 08:28
it didnt work because he didnt mean it or something- basically harry isnt evil
yes but he still tried it!!
i am also not convinced that harry is a horcux if he was wouldn't there have been some evidence of that already? Would he not have shown signs of having that evil within him?
Bad Wolf
21-10-2005, 08:35
i dont think he is either what do we have so far?
the neclace
riddles diary
the ring
nagini???
Bad Wolf
21-10-2005, 08:37
possibly something of the other two houses
nagini im not sure of wasnt there something about not being able to put it into a living thing??
God im going to have to read it again
Wasn't there also something about the huffllepuff cup??
Bad Wolf
21-10-2005, 08:45
the hufflepuff cup and something unidentified from the other house (total mental blank this morning!!!)
if nagini cant be one - it proves that harry cant be!!
i'll need to look back on this thread im sure someone came up with an explanation as to how harry could have been a horcux
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