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Layne
22-03-2005, 21:29
What do you think?

*JSW*
22-03-2005, 21:33
Yes they're meant to be a family! :)

Brummiegirl4805
22-03-2005, 22:06
I think they should, they are her natural parents after all. It is a difficult situation though cos she was adopted. I think it would be lovely to see them looking after her. It would be difficult to make up for the last four years. It could be the best thing for all of them. It would certainly be a very sweet story, that's for sure.

Debs
22-03-2005, 22:20
no they shouldnt. chloe has just lost her parents and to be taken away from her adoptive family who love her very much would be very wrong!

Brummiegirl4805
22-03-2005, 22:24
Yeah, that's a good point, plus they don't know her. To be honest I don't really know. What would be best for her? If it would be for her to stay with her adoptive grandparents, maybe that would be the answer. Or maybe getting to know her real mum and dad could be good for her. Maybe they could start off by having contact with her.

Debs
22-03-2005, 22:42
i think it is best for the child to stay with people she knows. if there is noonne in the family who can look after her full time then i guess she will be put back up for adoption and if that is the case maybe sonia and martincould apply to adopt her??

Siobhan
23-03-2005, 12:17
No, they should not get her.. this would lead to legal complications and Sonia knew the story when she put her child up for adoption... she cannot take the child back until 18 years old or the child wants to contact her.. It would be ok if she was forstered.

This could lead to alot of complication and we all know what happen last time Sonia was allowed to have contact with chloe... She gave up her rights to Chloe when she adopted her

Torrie
23-03-2005, 12:28
I agree that they shouldn't get her back - it would send out the wrong message about adoption and it wouldn't be realistic either as legally Sonia and Martin have no claim. It might be different if there was absolutely no one to look after her, but there are family and friends. I do think it's good to show the continuing affects on Sonia though - she did the right thing by Chloe/Rebecca by giving her up at a time when she felt unable to cope with a baby, but no one should expect it to be easy and it means this storyline hasn't just been forgotten about.

.:Kitz:.
25-03-2005, 09:50
I'm torn, on one hand if sonia wants to see her child she sould be able to but it is sending out TOTALLY the wrong message for adoption that if you want your kid back all you have to do wait for the parents to die (or watever) and then stake your claim. It's like 'i didn't want it then but i really want it back now....' do you know what i mean? It's like going back on your words and i don't know why but i see it as almost selfish. It might just be me..........

soapaddict
25-03-2005, 10:59
Yes Definetely.

You can tell Sonia is still very much in Love with Chloe and regrets putting her up for adoption.

They deserve to be a family after all thats happened

Eastenders_4ev@
25-03-2005, 15:16
I think she should get chloe back, because afterall she is her daughter, i kno she doesnt know sonia and martin, but its better for them to get to know her now. then it would be to get, to kno her whens she a teenager or older because she will be upset for them giving her up.

If ya get what i mean lol
thanks
K@T!E

gbnut
25-03-2005, 15:28
it would be a shame for chloe to be removed from her family and as most have said chloe was adopted therfore sonia has no legal rights to her. sonia and martin need to move on. if sonia does not she will become very bitter and let it rule her life. they need to start a family of there own.

Siobhan
25-03-2005, 16:05
it would be a shame for chloe to be removed from her family and as most have said chloe was adopted therfore sonia has no legal rights to her. sonia and martin need to move on. if sonia does not she will become very bitter and let it rule her life. they need to start a family of there own.

Well said.. I have said that before... Sonia or Martin have no right since Chloe was adopted

Debs
25-03-2005, 18:28
Yes Definetely.

You can tell Sonia is still very much in Love with Chloe and regrets putting her up for adoption.

They deserve to be a family after all thats happened

yes sonia is still very much in love with chloe. That is because she is her biological daughter. yes she regrets putting her up for adoption! that is what people have to go through every day. a mother would never forget the son/daughter that she gave away. but that dosent mean she can go and get her back whenever she feels like it!! if that was the case peole would do it every day!!

Lizzie Brookes
25-03-2005, 21:43
Yes - They are meant to be a family. Definitely. They are fated to be together but they should leave it to God rather than interfering.

Penguin8191
27-03-2005, 11:52
yes i think they should get chloe back. Sonia was Young and Scared when she gave her up and yo can see that she really regrets it. A child should be with their real mum and dad.

littlemo
27-03-2005, 18:20
yes i think they should get chloe back. Sonia was Young and Scared when she gave her up and yo can see that she really regrets it.

I agree that Sonia and Martin should be reunited with their daughter. I don't think Chloe/Rebecca should be automatically taken out of her grans house and placed at the Fowlers, but I do think that Sonia and Martin should be allowed access.

It was a very confusing time for Sonia when she gave her daughter up, she was 15, she didn't know she was pregnant, she was scared, she had very few people to turn too for support. Now Sonia is in a completely different place in her life. It may seem selfish, that Sonia is just picking and choosing when she wants her daughter, but it's about Rebecca too. Sonia has the means too look after her properly now. If Rebecca returns back to the Fowlers she has 2 parents who love her, and will try and give her everything she needs. It's difficult to know who would benefit Rebecca the most, but Sonia & Martin should definetely be given the chance to get to know their child. At least she will know that she isn't an orphan.

MysticKitten
27-03-2005, 18:47
Hi does anyone know the real legal standing on this, would they in real life stand a chance of getting her back because I hate it when these soaps seem to make up their own rules and I hope that EE stays with what would happen really. Morally chloe should stay with her nan but im sure that lots of us would like to see how the Fowlers coped with a little girl in the house. xx. :p

littlemo
27-03-2005, 20:18
I'm sure I read a while ago on this board, by somebody who was involved in family law, who said it was possible for Martin and Sonia to get Rebecca back. I'm not sure how this would work, I would be interested to know more though.

Can somebody also tell me whether this storyline is over when Sonia tells the adopted gran about who she really is? I know the gran is furious, and Martin & Sonia leave tearfully. James has said that this is the end of the storyline for now, but will cause problems in their marraige. Is there going to be a custody battle or not?

chance
27-03-2005, 20:22
i thought the law was that once you have signed the papers you have signed the child away for good unless that child wishes to find you when it grows up?

littlemo
27-03-2005, 20:27
i thought the law was that once you have signed the papers you have signed the child away for good unless that child wishes to find you when it grows up?

It is, but I don't think it's always as simple as that. I think the only way Martin and Sonia could get Rebecca back is if she was put back into the adoption system. I suppose this could happen if the adopted gran couldn't look after her (and it seemed Neil's cousin didn't think she was coping very well). To be honest I'm not very well informed about this subject, I think it's better to hear about it from an expert.

Katy
27-03-2005, 20:29
But if the parents are dead then i dont know who better than the child to go back to its real parents. I dont se the problem

littlemo
27-03-2005, 20:39
But if the parents are dead then i dont know who better than the child to go back to its real parents. I dont se the problem

Sonia gave Chloe up for adoption, so she doesn't at this moment have rights to the child. If the adopted parents are dead, their family would get first priority. The adopted grandmother has now taken over custody of Rebecca, I'm not sure if it's a permanent arrangement.

I think it's really sad that Sonia is not allowed access to her own daughter. When she gave her up, Sue and Neil Miller were quite understanding to her predicament, she was allowed to send cards and presents on Chloe's birthday. But when things got too much for Sonia and she ended up kidnapping her, they moved away from the area. The adopted parents still seemed to sympathise, but they certainly didn't want her visiting them anymore. Now it seems that what was taken away from her as been brought back, and she finds it very hard to let go again. And I really don't think she should have too.

It is very unfair too Martin and Sonia to keep them away. I don't think anyone should lose contact with the little girl. Nobody needs to be excluded.

Tamzi
28-03-2005, 09:00
They shouldn't as that would never happen in real life. In real life they have given Chloe/Rebecca up for ever. When they signed that document they were agreeing that they were no longer her parents, they have no rights. It is stupid if ee let them have her. Also I think it is nice for them just to be a couple and spending time together without a kid.

.:Kitz:.
28-03-2005, 11:53
yeah, like i've said before. Just because she gave birth to her doesn't give her the right to come back and take her away again just because she feels like it! It's wrong.

littlemo
29-03-2005, 21:16
yeah, like i've said before. Just because she gave birth to her doesn't give her the right to come back and take her away again just because she feels like it! It's wrong.

I know, but you can't help feeling sorry for her can you? I know at this moment she is probably thinking more about herself than what's best for Chloe, but I truly believe that she loves her, and can't be without her. I also feel that being with Martin and Sonia may prove beneficial for Chloe in the long run. She no longer has her adopted parents and if Martin and Sonia can give her a happy and secure life, why can't it be good for her?

Lizzie Brookes
30-03-2005, 07:12
I think Sonia should wait till shes 18 ( I'm assuming shes 17 now), and then ask about it. They deserve to be a proper family again but she should just be patient for a while. I am aware that lying is wrong but I can understand Sonia's reasons and it isn't like shes going to snatch her or anything.

di marco
30-03-2005, 12:22
( I'm assuming shes 17 now)

do you mean sonia? shes nearly 20

Siobhan
30-03-2005, 12:25
it isn't like shes going to snatch her or anything.

isnt' that what she did the last time she got friendly with the childminder...

littlemo
30-03-2005, 19:21
isnt' that what she did the last time she got friendly with the childminder...

Yes she did kidnap Chloe before, but she was about 15 then and not in a good state of mind. However upset Sonia is with being parted from her daughter, I think having Martin makes it a bit easier on her. Would she really want to risk her marraige and future for something she could never have anyway (unless done legally)? I don't think she would do it again. Mind you I suppose you can never say never, you never know what they'd do in soaps.

RIP_Rubbish_Gangster
31-03-2005, 12:39
No, absolutly NOT. She should have no rights.